August 26th, 2011
11:13 AM ET

Photo spotlight: Afghan women

iReporter Naeem Muhsiny recently submitted these pictures he took of Afghan women in traditional Muslim garb outside the "Blue Mosque" in northern Afghanistan.

Muhsiny told iReport
that he feels these photos represent the struggle between religious tradition and the modern world faced by many Afghans. "Religion controls every aspect of one's life under the banner of God and secularism frees one from fear and greed, the very theory found in all four major religions," he said.

"Religion divides people under different names and affiliations and secularism breaks those walls by recognizing one value and that is humanity."

Muhsiny was stationed in Afghanistan from January 2010 through August 2011 as the country manager for Afghanistan at the American Councils for International Education, an organization that provides educational programs for Afghan youth.

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  1. Heather


    What I found very interesting was the chadari was considered beautiful by the author of the article. What was profoundly disappointing was, and I quote, " allows a woman to be in public without jeopardizing her safety OR ruining her husband's social reputation !"

    Does anyone else realize the absolute absurdity of these statements ? Why would a woman fear for her safety when in public if she wasn't shrouded ? Aren't men who follow the muslim faith able to control themselves ? Is the mere sight of a woman capable of rendering them senseless ? If a man's social reputation is so easily destroyed by a woman NOT wearing a chadari then it must not have been a very impressive one in the first place.

    These are the main reasons I cannot respect or understand anyone who follows these tenets of faith. It is illogical and places the blame for man's bad behavior on the shoulders of women. Must be nice to be able to use half of your population as an excuse...

    October 5, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Harvey Derhase

    It is easy to see the analog of this. It is the same a an Englishman putting a hedge or wall around his property. You are less likely to covet what you cannot see, and just like any other property these women should be hidden.

    October 4, 2011 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  3. salerno

    Beyond the book there is a science.

    September 7, 2011 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
    • ThankYou

      Thank You.

      September 8, 2011 at 5:08 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You are wellcome. When you need more help you can ask.

        September 8, 2011 at 6:06 am | Report abuse |
  4. Book Cannot Tell About All Lives

    One book cannot tell all about this real lives all about human.
    A primitive static book have their limit.

    September 7, 2011 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Everything determined under the categories of form, number and weight is limited, but sacred books are an indication.

      September 7, 2011 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Seem The Primitive Book Limit Needs Extension Pages

      Seem the islamic primitive book now needs extension pages to explain about this modern human lives.
      One book has its limit space to explain about all human lives now and the future.

      So do muslim need more additional pages in their primitive book to explain all human and the next future generation?

      September 7, 2011 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The Quran was not revealed to explain the modern human lives.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The Quran is not a sociological treatise.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Be Gone

        So islam, be gone from this modern lives back to your arabian ancestor.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Where are the believers there is Islam. Islam has no borders.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Cross Borders To Survive?

        Seem muslim cannot survive inside their borders and want to cross the borders.

        Their arabian people try to move lives to malaysia and indonesia the different countries with their different geological conditions different local cultures languages and different ethnic groups.

        That is why they only get cultural conflicts and make more internal problems to local people there by forcing their fail primitive islam.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The ethnicity remained mostly the same. Afghan muslims are not arab. Pakistani muslims are not arabs. Turkish and Iranians are not arabs. In the past centuries there was a military espansion, but it ended in the late 1700.

        September 7, 2011 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  5. Human Are The Maker Of Their Human Cultures

    It is true.
    Men are the maker of cultures.
    So men can change the wrong cultures the irrelevant cultures.

    September 7, 2011 at 3:16 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Islam is not an human culture. All sacred traditions are not made by human.

      September 7, 2011 at 8:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Prove It

        Prove it.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      God cannot be proved as it is beyond human rationality. It is also impossible to prove his non existence.

      September 7, 2011 at 9:38 am | Report abuse |
      • God Is Very Near Always Speaks To You

        That is why you muslim cannot reach to understand about the God because of the resistance for the static book only.
        God is very near always speaks in your heart in you in your real lives with your friends with this nature.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Yes, but God speaking in our hearts cannot be proved, as I told above.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Soon You Will Get It

        Someday may be soon you will get it.

        September 7, 2011 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You will get how wrong were you when asked me a proof about God.

        September 7, 2011 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Prove It To Public

        Prove it to public people not just one person

        September 8, 2011 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I told that is impossible to show any proof as God is beyond human rationality. Even miracles done by Jesus are not a valid proof.

        September 8, 2011 at 3:26 am | Report abuse |
      • Thank You

        If it is not rational then human will never know about God concept.
        So be it.

        Someday you will understand about God that is very near inside you around you and real in lives.
        But the answers have been given at this blog if you accept.

        Thank You.
        God Bless.

        September 8, 2011 at 5:06 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        God is above rationality, but he is not irrational. Rationality comes from God, but rationality cannot include God. God can include rationality. If you take mathematic as example, there are irrational numbers. They exist, byt cannot be rationalized.
        Mathematic is the closest science to God as the concept of limit can be used to esemplifie the relation betwen God and rationality. The Limit cannot be reached if not by a "jump" called integral calculus. Something similar can be said about God.

        September 8, 2011 at 5:59 am | Report abuse |
  6. Can islam Exist Without Human?

    All public people knew that human men are the maker of cultures.
    They are the builder the worker to build your noisy mosques your primitive fashion your books your papers.
    So men can change their wrong cultures the primitive irrelevant cultures.

    Can islam exist without human?

    There is no books no languages no lives no brain no soul no ears no mouth no sound no ballpoint also no computers for writing.

    If human lives do not exist then there is no islam.
    After their arabian people create islam to rule them then muslim want to give their lives for their wrong islam in a primitive book they created only to save face.

    No question about muslim are dead just for a primitive book.

    September 7, 2011 at 3:13 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Islam cannot exist without human as it is about the relation betwen himan and Allah, but human cannot change Islam as it is not made by men.

      September 7, 2011 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
      • So Why You Trust The Non-Human

        So what is the maker? And prove it.
        And why do you trust the non-human?

        Seem you live in a past book not with human anymore.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        All the religions or sacred traditions come from the ultimate Truth, the Principle.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
      • It Is Not Enough

        From the past that was the past.
        It is not enough to rule to explain all lives in all different regions all different people in different ages.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      To explain lives is not the goal.

      September 7, 2011 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
  7. Fail Their Own Government

    Their governments let the bad islamic seed grow and use islam to make politics.
    Now they get their bad fruits.

    Their local cultures and languages become primitive.
    The internal chaos by cultural conflicts to fail their nations.
    Their people are dying by cultural garbage the arabian primitive islam.

    Law must control islam muslim without politics mosques without noise pollution.
    The bad arabian seed must not be used but must be eliminated.

    September 7, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Leadership is a problem as ofgten twisted sharia law is used to control the people. The old good leadership in many muslim countries was cancelled by western colonialism and western countries are supporting ignorant military leaderships or evil monarchies.

      September 7, 2011 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  8. vicky

    This guy considers the chadari "beautiful". Well, I would suggest for him to try one on and live his daily life in one including driving a car and having a meal. See how liberating or restrictive that may feel. Since he touts the wonderful equalizing aspects of the chadari, why is this only applicable to women and why does he not advocate this dress code for men too?

    September 6, 2011 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      I agree with you Vicky. Chadari is for a princess who has not to drive a car neither to work.

      September 6, 2011 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  9. Men Are The Maker of Cultures

    Men are the maker of human cultures.
    So men can change their wrong cultures.

    September 5, 2011 at 4:46 am | Report abuse |
    • Modern People

      Destroy the irrelevant islamic cultures.
      For all people and the next innocent new generations.

      September 5, 2011 at 6:34 am | Report abuse |
  10. True

    The prophets are not our presidents.
    Past prophets in the book is dead with their responsibilities for static islam.

    September 4, 2011 at 5:16 am | Report abuse |
  11. My Name is Allah De God

    Can human have a name from five alphabets 'Allah' by our human law and our local languages?
    Yes, people can and it is legal.

    My name is Allah De God.
    Do you want to hear the real voice of Allah De God?
    Of course, as long as it can lead us to be better human to survive on this old earth.

    Be our leader Allah De God, please...

    September 4, 2011 at 5:14 am | Report abuse |
  12. Timmy

    Prophets are not our presidents...

    September 4, 2011 at 2:55 am | Report abuse |
    • My Name is Allah De God

      Hahaha holy words Timmy...

      September 4, 2011 at 5:06 am | Report abuse |
  13. Change Cultures

    See their arabian kings use alike a kind of female dress for sleeping and wearing it on public then feel they are holy.
    Are the arabian kings gays by their primitive lingerie?

    Their closed dress are used to cover face and body when a dust storm comes in their deserts.
    So the primitive desert cultures way become irrelevant in the other countries in this modern ages.

    It is true that islam is irrelevant cultures.

    Men are the maker of cultures
    So men can change the wrong cultures.

    September 3, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Many traditions like Islam are not made by men.

      September 4, 2011 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Just Human Alphabets

        Seem your 'Allah' is not human but understand how to teach human by your arabian languages the human languages which created by human your ancestor.

        So is it aliens? If aliens try to kill human then muslim want to pray to their aliens?
        That is why the static irrelevant stubborn wrong past islam blind muslim about this real lives and make so many problems to many countries.

        September 5, 2011 at 4:27 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Muslims pray none but Allah.

        September 5, 2011 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Useless Obedient

        That 'Allah' in the book. The static voice in a book. The irrelevant words.
        Life is dynamic not static like a dead stone or a static book of paper and languages created by human.

        That stubborn resistance only to save face which make so many problems to all people.

        How long did muslim do their stubborn primitive culture to make so many cultural problems to fail their people future?
        How many times did muslim do their anarchy to fail your public improvements to fail the local countries?
        How many times did muslim do problems in many countries to fail the local public peace?
        Repentance muslim repentance. It is a shame the useless obedient for the irrelevant book.

        You muslim only ash will be gone by the future wind.
        You muslim are the stubborn dust to be destroyed.

        September 6, 2011 at 1:29 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Life is not static, but the Principle of life is immutable. The Word of Allah is in the Quran, but this word becomes a voice and life when it comes out from the lips. Word (Logos) – Light – Life are the same, 3 faces of ONE truth.
        This is why it is impossible to destroy Islam.
        Islam is like the Phenix that rises again from her ashes.

        September 6, 2011 at 6:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Past Was The Past

        That is human regeneration in the new lives your innocent new generation not the past.

        Past was the past. There is no same apple in this world.
        Only stubborn hopeless people live for the wrong past without future until death without do something for their new generation to solve the wrong past the irrelevant cultures.

        That is why new lives offer the choices to muslim: the past or the future to survive your people on this old earth.

        September 6, 2011 at 9:21 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        There is no same apple, but the principle from where thwe apples come is the same and immutable.
        There is no something like past and future for the principle. Past and future are determination of the time, an illusion where you are trapped without any remedy.

        September 6, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Choose The New Future

        Choose one :
        The wrong irrelevant past to make politics to fail your people to fail all human.
        The new future with your new generation to survive on this old earth.

        September 7, 2011 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
      • A Book Cannot Tell About All Lives

        One book cannot able to tell all human real lives.
        Ironically it is a primitive book.

        One life time of past prophet on deserts cannot able to explain all lives in different regions.
        That is why islam are irrelevant cultures now in this modern ages.

        September 7, 2011 at 8:48 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        No need to choose the first, neither the second. Islam is beyond past and future.

        September 7, 2011 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Static Voice In A Primitive Book

        A static primitive book that is not irrelevant anymore.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
      • The Limit of A Book

        One book cannot able to tell to explain about all human lives.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Of course, not irrelevant.

        September 7, 2011 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Primitive

        To you about your words always are not irrelevant about the past primitive islam.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  14. Modern Culture

    Yeah they cannot run faster than their primitive fashion when the big earthquake comes to their arabian lands.

    September 2, 2011 at 5:38 am | Report abuse |
  15. Open Mind

    Can islam explain about Technology?
    Seem muslim use this technology to sustain lives on earth not allah anymore.
    The dichotomy shows muslim to save face about their stubborn wrong.

    When the earth temperature reach more 99 degrees then do muslim still use their primitive styles?
    If the earth temperature reach -99 degrees then do muslim still use their primitive ways?
    When this old earth stops to spin then can muslim do their primitive rituals to save lives?

    If the arabian oil gas mines are empty then do the kings from sorrow deserts have the respect?
    When the sources are empty muslim will see their surface lands fall down into deep earth.
    Can muslim save their people by the name of just a religion from sorrow deserts when the fall comes?

    People try to save your people but your stubborn muslim always choose to save face because of the primitive book from dead prophets that have gone with their responsibilities to explain about technologies.

    September 2, 2011 at 4:47 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Open mind – there is nothing against technology in the Quran. Difference is that for the muslims technology has only a secondary importance. Islam is not oil dependent. The western nations are oil-dependent.

      September 2, 2011 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Modern Science

        muslim use the technologies and sciences to create islam.
        Your ancestors create your primitive language the alphabets for people communication to name a God.
        That is a science of communication even with a God.

        The alphabets are a science and your 'Allah' concepts is human imagination that come from seeing and feel fear about natural disasters then try to save lives by praying.

        If your 'Allah' is only about to avoid punishments from natural disasters then you must leave the primitive wrong concepts that only make you blind and so many problems without try to solve the human weakness.

        Only with technologies human can survive on this old earth not the irrelevant islam.
        The dualism still shows muslim to save face about how to sustain lives on this old earth.

        September 3, 2011 at 6:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Oil Gas Will Be Useless

        So do muslim want to stop the oil-gas business market? The oil-gas-countries will be nothing.
        When your oil-gas mines are empty then do you want to import the new energy from western people?

        It is a shame to muslim try to be arrogant in front of their creator the best white people on earth.

        September 4, 2011 at 2:49 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Natural disasters have nothing to do with religion or tradition like Islam.

        September 4, 2011 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Allah

      It is true that the word of 'Allah' is only the alphabets for human communication to name a God.

      Can your 'Allah' people call 'Jesus' or 'Budha' or monkey call 'Aouoo'?
      Yes, they can. Monkey can call your 'Allah' by its animal languages.
      Or do muslim want to teach their arabian languages to monkey to make a call for Allah?

      There are so many names of God around this earth depend on their languages and geological conditions to survive their people.

      So muslim are totally wrong when force their local name of God at public then feel they are holy.
      Even Allah cannot understand their arabian languages and feel boring to hear their same sorrow prayers from noisy mosques to teach about how to do holy at public.

      In truth muslim do the unholy things the noise pollution spoils public peace the soul pollution that make low people quality poor civilization and bad for business price.

      September 3, 2011 at 6:58 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You are seriously confused. Mohammed did not revealed sharia for monkeys, but for human kind.
        Additionally Allah cannot be bored from prayers for 2 reasons:
        1- because boring is an human feeling
        2 – Allah himself asked the muslims to pray 5 times a day.

        September 4, 2011 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Static Voice in A Book

        Can 'Allah' change its creation its law to human?
        Yes, 'Allah' can change it as its rights to change its creations and its rules to muslim.

        Or do muslim now prefer to obey to follow a static voice in a book rather than the real voice of 'Allah'?

        If it is yes then your 'Allah' is static dead only in a book story from your arabian primitive lives from the past.
        If it is yes then that is a rebellion to deny the real 'Allah' voices to you now in you in your real lives now only to save face for your stubborn wrong.

        September 4, 2011 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The real voice of Allah is from the Quran. The principles of sharia and the Haqiqa are immutable and cannot change. What can change is the exteriority of sharia as consequence of changed conditions of lives.

        September 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • It is Human Language

        Seem your 'Allah' is not human but understand how to teach human by your arabian languages the human languages which created by human your ancestor.

        September 5, 2011 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Only Human Language

        Seem your 'Allah' is not human but understand how to teach human by your arabian languages the human languages which created by human your ancestor.

        Seem your 'Allah' is not human but make laws to rule human without understand and feel how to be human.

        Seem your 'Allah' is local sentimental and discrimination for monkeys.
        If your 'Allah' is universal then monkeys have a right to pray to the creator the same as you.
        Unfortunely monkeys cannot understand your arabian primitive languages.

        Do your 'Allah' now want to teach about the arabian primitive languages to understand your islamic book from heaven to monkeys so monkeys or apes can pray and accept that your 'Allah' are universal not local just for human or your arabian ancestor?

        Seem your local 'Allah' did not create monkeys from forests to pray to your 'Allah'.
        So don't teach about your local 'Allah' to the others countries about how to do holy.

        Public people knew better about lives about how to do real holy lives rather than islam rather than you muslim.

        Because real public people do real lives and have their sources from real lives not from a book.

        You muslim only will get miss and wrong in this real lives because your sources are a past story in book.

        People human create your languages your book your holy book not 'Allah'.
        You muslim only get your 'Allah' just in the book only the static voice in a book.

        September 5, 2011 at 2:58 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Human languages are not created by human, and what you said about monkeys praying God, can be said for any other religion. There is no difference, but religions are for human, not for animals.

        September 5, 2011 at 9:08 am | Report abuse |
      • islam Made By Human

        That proves about your islam made by human.

        September 7, 2011 at 2:57 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        No. It is not a proof.

        September 7, 2011 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
      • So Looking For It?

        You cannot find the truth if you are looking for the wrong into the truth.
        Then you always say true is wrong and wrong is true.
        No, that is bad. True is true. Accept it. There are no wrongs.

        To you muslim always look for mistakes to save your face only.
        Like to make this blog is off the records to public.

        That is why there are so many problems in this world.
        Keep the bad things to fail the good world.

        Do not proud with it because it is nothing to save human your people your innocent generation.

        September 7, 2011 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        It is impossible to look for the wrong INTO the truth.

        September 7, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Rechange

    Forcing the reality to become the same as in the primitive book is totally wrong.

    It is true that islam is irrelevant cultures.
    Their people cannot use the past unreal islam in this current real lives.

    That is why muslim always miss and get wrong when do the past unreal islam in this current real lives.

    See the Better World Without islam

    August 31, 2011 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      First of all Islam is a culture, not a cultures. Second, Islam does not exclude technological innovation. There is nothing in the Quran against technology. Third, Islam is the most modern tradition, the first giving some ethical principles actually still valid. If some islamic countries are primitive, it is a consequence of poverty, colonizations and bad leadership sponsored by the western countries.

      August 31, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Deadislam

        The dichotomy shows muslim to save face about their stubborn wrong.
        Use your allah to sustain lives on earth if you can.

        September 2, 2011 at 4:52 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Allah is not susceptible to be "used".

        September 2, 2011 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Change Cultures

        It is only a name of God from human language for communication. It is only the alphabet not the things.
        That is why muslim always get wrong when apply the past words from primitive book into this real modern lives.

        If your ancestors agree to use the characters 'aouo' or the other ones as the name of God then it become your name of 'allah' now. That is why there are so many names of God around this earth depend on their languages and geological conditions to survive their people.

        There is God real inside human as the parts of Universe like Jesus Christ said long time ago the same with Buddha Jew and Hinduism. In human there are the combination of all elements from Universe as its parts.

        Can the blind muslim see about it? Open your brain open your mind to accept the reality.

        September 3, 2011 at 2:48 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Muslims do not applie old words to modern life. Conversely modern life should be in syntony with the Allah's words.
        Additionally, nobody can teach Islam anything about God.

        September 4, 2011 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
      • Bangor

        Muslims certainly utilized the word Allah from preIslamic times. I'm sure then was modern relative to the preislamic times, of course.

        September 4, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Words like Allah, or mantra like OM have not any human origin. They come from non human reality.

        September 6, 2011 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Human Stay With Human

        So go now to the non-human world and never teach about the unreal things to human.
        That is why you muslim only bring so many conflicts in this human world.

        September 7, 2011 at 2:53 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        What you are saying is totally irrelevant for muslims as they know what to do.

        September 7, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
      • So Do Not Teach islam To The Others

        So do not teach islam to the others.

        September 7, 2011 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Islam needs to be teached to the beginners, but only qualified teachers can do it.

        September 7, 2011 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Bad Seed Must Be Eliminated

        The bad seed must not be used to blind your innocent new generation.
        The bad seed must be eliminated to heal this world from the wrong past of islam.

        September 8, 2011 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The bad seed cannot be eliminated. They are multiple and spread around the globe.

        September 8, 2011 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Because Of You

        Because of people like you let the bad seed to make politics and business.
        If all people destroy them then there are no bad seed anymore.

        After it all people can focus to make better this old earth and develop the entire universe.

        September 8, 2011 at 4:54 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Bad seed is the modern way of life.

        September 8, 2011 at 6:03 am | Report abuse |
      • About Bad Seed

        Bad seed is the wrong way of islam.

        September 8, 2011 at 9:40 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Yes there is even a bad way of Islam of course, but the bad seed is far beyond that. Everything has a bad way, even science, christianity, judaism or hinduism.

        September 8, 2011 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Agree

        Agree. It depends on human.

        September 8, 2011 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  17. Lost

    Women aren't the problem. The problems lies in the fact that a man wants to control everything but himself. A just society is one where a women can live up to her fullest potential, without hindrance or intimidation. There really is no such place like that in the world. The world is crumbling because of the lack of strong feminine element of influence. Men, what are you afraid of?

    August 31, 2011 at 3:13 am | Report abuse |
  18. TibetanPhotoProject

    Cultures must find their own way and there is much to be celebrated and saved within world cultures. The best way forward is to add access to reliable and honest secular education in the mix.

    August 30, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Secularism cannot be honest. Secularism is a fraud.

      August 30, 2011 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Jenny

    Government should stay out of religion. PERIOD. Forcing someone to do something based on something that isn't even in the quraan is wrong.

    August 30, 2011 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
    • TibetanPhotoProject

      Reliable honest secular education when added to a culture will allow it to find its own way and evolution.

      August 30, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Liviah

    Naeem Muhsiny's comments on religion vs. secularism are hurtful to me as a religious person. Although Jewish law governs all that I do (in the name of G-d), I would argue that Secularism is a religion in itself. It's way of life/mentality governs everything you do and think in the name of... yourself?

    I was raised and spent most of my life in the secular world and I found there to be just as many restrictions in that way of life as I find in a religious Jewish life. It's just under a different banner. Restrictions so intrinsic and ingrained into our consciousness that we don't even realize they are restrictions until we break away.

    What I have, that many women in Afghanistan don't have, it the freedom to choose my lifestyle.

    I'm not sure this is a problem of secularism vs. religion as it is a problem of simply.... freedom of religion/religious expression.

    August 28, 2011 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
  21. sheisbackisis

    MAN must remember GOD is man and woman combined. Hiding a woman doesnt enable respect of her. Control your lusts another way, For SHE will remind you of HER exsistance regardless of your petty understanding. MAN cannot yet conceive the bounty of the MOTHER and until you stop your ignorance of THAT WHICH IS expect no peace. You need only to look out the doors you create.

    August 28, 2011 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
  22. James

    The most awful thing.

    August 27, 2011 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
  23. 999


    August 27, 2011 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • revolutionary

      I agreed, who is one to tell what proper to wear or not, i mean we got people in american showin their ass*s. like idiots and America think is cool. lol "LOOKING LIKE A FOOL WITH THOSE PANTS DOWN."

      August 29, 2011 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
  24. Glenn

    Every time I try to think of an argument against Islamic women hiding their faces I think the same arguments could apply to our hiding our women's breasts. Let them all be free!

    August 27, 2011 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Skippy

    I understand he meaning behind it. Do I like it? No. Do I want my niece who is part afghan wearing one? Hell no.

    I still see it as a tool of oppression. Why must your wife hide her beauty, just because she might be admired by others? Does that automatically mean she is a cheating wife? I don't and won't believe that. This is all so stupid.

    August 27, 2011 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Outpost Log #4561-F

    BG security drones attacked with a vengeance after mess. Very chaotic for a brief while. Fairly significant casualties, but order has been at least restored. We are expecting an enemy dropship to arrive, ETA 15-20 minutes.

    August 27, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • George Patton

      Here goes another right-wing nutjob(Outpost Log #4561-F) trying to glorify the use of those godless drones against defenseless people. It never ends!!!

      August 27, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  27. sid

    Afghan women that I have seen were really beautiful.... too bad they don't get to show off 🙂

    August 27, 2011 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Fatima

    Instead of women covering their faces, how about instead we have the men grovel around on their knees to show that they are humble before Allah and that they know their place on Earth. Islam is a cancer and we are the cure. Our crusades in Iraq and Iran have left tens of thousands of Muslim corpses as a testament to our sincerity and commitment to crush Islam utterly.

    August 27, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Fatima – you are an idiot.

      August 28, 2011 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |

    You obviously are a perverted person - AND YOU CALL THAT EQUAL RIGHTS - BETTER WORD TO USE IS DEBAUCHERY...........

    August 27, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  30. Bud Tree Jr.

    More mindless picyures here from this mindless pamiri!!! I fully agree with George Patton below, saying that the Communists should have triumphed in Afghanistan 30 years ago and today that country would by now have both peace and prosperity!!! Too bad that most people here are just too stupid to see that!

    August 27, 2011 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  31. F. Daniel Gray

    Mixed messages abound. It's difficult to tell when women truly feel they are being and behaving independently, or attempting to please. After all,neither Srimavo Bandaranike, Indira Ghandi, or Benazir Bhuto, were forced to wear the head covering outfits they did; they were very strong leaders of their respective nations.

    August 27, 2011 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  32. Mahhn

    "Photo spotlight: Afghan women" I see no women, just "somone" in a bed sheet. I think they are really men hiding from somone. No indication at all that there are women under those. Heck, they might even be maniquins on public display.
    How could a susicide bomber not want put on a sheet to just walk in some place wrapped in bombs.
    FEAR – a ruler's (religion/government) best tool. Follow these rules or else!

    August 27, 2011 at 9:01 am | Report abuse |
    • George

      You are correct. One of them is D.B. Cooper.

      August 27, 2011 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  33. c

    While people are still attacking burqua, hijab in general, I think that one can find beauty in them. Not all women who wear such garments are meek and forced to wear them, either. If you want to attack them, maybe attack the shackles of religion in general–most religions put pressures on us. Not that it is always bad, even in my agnostic opinion.

    I think it is hilarious that we in the West forget that some Christians still wear head coverings–not just nuns. Western women have worn a variety of head coverings throughout history. Hair can attract almost as much attention as breasts. Also, it's often just practical to wear something over one's head. It provides instant neatness, keeps hair clean, and with shorter hijab–may prevent safety issues with hair. Veils often creates a refined, civilized aesthetic in my eyes, putting aside negative features of SOME Muslim cultures. Or, say, in the case of Hindu ladies wearing veils with their sari, a festive and mysterious feel appears. I've seen lovely photos where the focus is more about colors of veils than the individual woman. Free your mind and learn to appreciate what you may not usually love. I think head coverings will disappear if the women really want them to.

    August 27, 2011 at 6:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Tuppencecat

      Yes, there can be beauty in what people choose to embrace. But, much of what happens to these women is that they do not have the choice of what to embrace. These women must wear the coverings or be punished, sometimes so horribly that life is nothing but misery.

      August 27, 2011 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Chana

      Covering one's hair is one thing; covering one's face and whole body is something else. It effectively erases you. One thing that supporters of the burqa are leaving out is that visibility from behind that tiny square of mesh is almost nil. Many women are injured and killed because they cannot see traffic coming.

      August 27, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  34. sam

    How could there be anything left there ?

    August 27, 2011 at 4:53 am | Report abuse |
    • rowan

      i feel that everyone has the right to wear what they wish.. but when a woman is killed jailed or beaten because its not worn ccorrectly or its to short at the sleeves,. this isnt in anyway beautiful. its barbaric. theres another thing i dont understand about the rules of dress for women. to me its an insult to men. while they force women to wear these clothes from head to foot, to me the men are saying." we men can not be trusted. we have no control over out desires. weve less control than animals.. youre hurting your womens self worth.making them feel as if theyre evil temptation just by being women.and youre telling your young men im no better than an animaql. i cant control myself in the prsence of a woman. i find this truly sad

      August 27, 2011 at 6:32 am | Report abuse |
  35. CrystalRiver

    Muslim women are beautiful. They just need complete literacy and the Bible knowledge.

    August 27, 2011 at 4:20 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Bible knowledge is good, but if they are muslims they must relie on the Quran and their tradition first.

      August 27, 2011 at 4:35 am | Report abuse |
    • Samuel

      they already have that LOL! The Quran confirms the bible, and also confirms its lack of authenticity.

      August 27, 2011 at 7:18 am | Report abuse |
      • TRUEMAN

        Well said - 100% correct!!!!!!!!!!

        August 27, 2011 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Belcher

      If there is a God then he/she is not looking over the people on this planet.
      Muslim, Christian etc. it doesn't matter. None of your "gods" are doing anything for anyone. The sooner people stop believing in "God" the better off we will all be.

      Live your life, love your family, make every day count. There is nothing after death.

      August 30, 2011 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  36. Susan B Carlson

    The chadari, the burka, whatever you want to call it is for keeping women like sheep. It is an abuse of power and a means of dominance. I find it interesting that the photographer promotes the benefits of the chadari, and on the other hand makes the very truthful statement that "Religion controls every aspect of one's life under the banner of God and secularism frees one from fear and greed, the very theory found in all four major religions," and "Religion divides people under the different names and affiliations and secularism breaks those walls by recognizing one value and that is humanity." You can't really believe that and at the same time try to make it seem okay for women to have to wear a chadari.

    August 27, 2011 at 3:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Anti-Allah

      Most Muslim men will be offended by these vids of beautiful women. They prefer to see vids of little boys and girls so once they are all riled up they can go and abuse them violently and still go to heaven.

      August 27, 2011 at 5:49 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        No muslims are not offended.

        August 28, 2011 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
  37. gayserbian

    I see a lot of comments from people on websites like these whose opinions:

    1.) Will NOT make a damn bit of difference regarding the reality of the issue or topic.
    2.) Seriously demonstrate personal ignorance and lack understanding/respect of others in such topics.

    If any of you try to respond to my post in an attempt to engage in debate or prove me wrong; I will not answer. I have more important things to do while you will continue to demonstrate your pathetic life often commenting on matters you are not knowledgeable about.

    Good Day

    August 27, 2011 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
    • JT

      Do they paddle faster if they hear banjos?

      August 27, 2011 at 1:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Duo

      Wow... wasted a lot of time telling us we're silly. I'm sure you could have been doing something more productive with your time. Some of us just like to talk 🙂

      August 27, 2011 at 3:16 am | Report abuse |
    • c

      Some may call your post pointless, but I also get frustrated and would like to see more quality in posts. I wish people more people could share useful things and not expect their words to change anything. The only time you may move opinions is with great care. Attacking, a lack of understanding of a topic beyond opinion won't get you anywhere. I would actually prefer if news sites didn't give us the temptation to respond. Sure, some like to talk, but there are plenty of better places to do so.

      August 27, 2011 at 6:37 am | Report abuse |
    • bubbagump

      I ate your camel, yummy..

      August 30, 2011 at 2:15 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Fatima

    A woman who is proud of her Chadari is like a slave who is proud of her shackles.

    August 27, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      It is tradition. In the west men like to wear necktie even if it is painfull.

      August 27, 2011 at 4:27 am | Report abuse |
      • bubbagump

        Neckties aren't painful, they're lots of fun tied up with jello..

        August 30, 2011 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |



      August 27, 2011 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  39. Jim

    Spent a year in Kabul recently. Every time we drove through town and saw women in the Burqa I wondered to myself at the logic of the men who had their wife wear it - I just can't imagine it.
    At least in Afghanistan it's not as bad as in Saudi Arabia - there the women wear a heavy all black cover in the oppressive heat, while men wear mostly white. Clearly, it wasn't a woman who thought up THAT deal.

    August 27, 2011 at 12:10 am | Report abuse |
  40. CrystalRiver

    Americans need humility before the Creator God. Americans are foolishly puffed up before the Almighty God. The long years of enjoying stupid comedies and supporting the human sensuality made them lost their wits altogether. It's been bad to their national character and to their brains. Poor America's Founders!

    August 26, 2011 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Callie

    I don't think being forced into a shroud while still alive is beautiful. If it's so valuable as an "equalizer" why don't the guys wear them? As far as women choosing to wear it, beatings (or worse) or burka; some choice. THANK GOD I LIVE IN AMERICA!

    August 26, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
  42. CrystalRiver

    Secularism has no moral values whatsoever; all they want is co-existance of all kinds of villains and perverts with numerous victims unattended in the society. Democracy is failing in the West because people are filthy and evil. The West needs Judeo-Christian values before it gets destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse |
  43. CrystalRiver

    Secularism promote the worst kind of blasphemies, insane selfishness(worship of self instead of God), unprecedented filthy immoral perversions and butchering of unborn babies. Muslims should not be deceived by the filthy secular West. Muslims need the Bibles and Christian values to break free from tyranny and be humane.

    August 26, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dragonwind

      While we may be worlds apart, and disagree on many things, one thing here I do agree with, Moral values in America are becoming a thing of the past and something to be sneered at by those who have no or few morals. There is a saying though, and one I fear will come to pass sooner rather than later, that saying is this "When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible".

      What that means in simpler terms is, Evil people will use the illusion of Christianity to take control of this country. They are not true Christians, because if they were, they wouldn't do the things they do. They are however, servants of the Enemy. They will have their day, and then they will have their payment.

      "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"

      "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

      August 27, 2011 at 1:35 am | Report abuse |
    • CrystalRiver

      America had all the blessings and protection and liberation from Christianity. America's problem is moral chaos from the loss of Christian values, nothing else. Your quote does not fit to the normal American Christians but to cults.

      August 27, 2011 at 4:19 am | Report abuse |
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  46. great equalizer?

    If it's such a great equalizer, why don't the men wear them too?

    August 26, 2011 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Sam

    I disagree with the author's justification of the burqa in Afghanistan. While the burqa might look beautiful as it is blown by the wind, the bottom line is that it is a tool used to control women's participation in the public space. The very idea that an uncovered woman could jeopardize her safety and ruin her husband's "social reputation" is vile and oppressive. I also think it is wrong for the author to tie the idea of the "burqa" to "freedom", when it represents the very opposite. I don't think Afghan women see the burqa as a symbol of their personal freedom, though they may use this language when asked. I think they see the burqa as a social concession they must make in order to participate, however limitedly, in public life. And that is a horrible concession. Few Afghan women in the West wear the burqa – it is usually women from countries in the Middle East who do so in the West.

    August 26, 2011 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Carlo

      UMM Sam Do you understand that sometimes women choose to wear the burqa. I have studied in the Arab world for many years and all the women that I have spoke to say that it is their choice. Also if you have ever been to the Middle East or an Islamic country you will understand why women wear it. I encourage you do so. Soooooo please do your research. I will agree that I am not ok with the husband forcing the wife to wear the burqa.

      August 26, 2011 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Melissa

        they choose to wear it so they will have a chance at staying safe. Between "honor killings," beatings, the reality that assault victims are guilty of the crime of being attacked, and the harassment of any woman who dares go out with her head uncovered, they choose to wear these coverings because the alternate is simply too dangerous.

        August 26, 2011 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
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  48. lilgtogirl

    After serving in Afghanistan for 3 years, and having much interraction with the women being that I am a woman myself, I am not offended by the veil. The only time it ever bothered me was when a woman was forced to wear it. However, I did have a lot of respect for the women who wore theirs with love and pride for their religion. Only weak and pathetic men fear their wives to be uncovered.

    August 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Logical One

      True words were never spoken. However, this type of dress (burqa) would never work in Western societies. It's offensive to women who believe in equality, democracy, and progressive thinking. England, France, and Western Europe is having difficulty with immigrant Muslims whom refuse to assimilate into Western culture. Sharia laws do not mix with democratic ones. If Muslim women want to remain oppressed, then stay in your third world countries with 7th century beliefs and religion. Otherwise, DO NOT IMMIGRATE TO WESTERN NATIONS. You will not be welcomed if dressed in repressive clothing.

      August 26, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • mani

      lilgtogirl:- if everyone in the world had your way of thinking....there wouldn't be any problems int he world..Bravo!

      August 26, 2011 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Reasonable1

    It is not Halloween yet... and they are already dressed up in horrible costumes !!
    Kudos to France. They banned this oppressive attire.

    August 26, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
  50. mslane

    This is an offensive way to justify an equally offensive practise of blanketing the muslim female.

    August 26, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Ganesha Boulevard

    Even on a mild and gentle subject like this you trolls have to dump your vituperation. Jeez, give it a rest for once!

    August 26, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      This is not a gentle subject, this is criminality !!

      August 26, 2011 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  52. George Patton

    All in all, Afghanistan is a very beautiful country. It's too bad that NATO has to occupy it and that makes me sick! In fact, I would have preferred Communist rule there. Had the Communists won in the beginning, there would have been no need for Russian intervention!

    August 26, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Andrew Lubin

      Good posting, George. Thank you.

      August 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |