June 15th, 2011
01:57 PM ET
The most dangerous country for women
CNN's Nick Paton Walsh discusses the challenges for women in Afghanistan, ranked the most dangerous country for women.
CNN's Nick Paton Walsh discusses the challenges for women in Afghanistan, ranked the most dangerous country for women.
Salerno and others who think like him, yes we think not just the USA but also all the international forces and the brave men and women of those countries they are here , they do help us and they do remove the terrorists and barbarism which generates by Taliban alqada under the direct help and coordination of ISI and we beleive late or soon the world would be coming on this that the peace deals is just the game of ISI+Karzai that through that they want to sustain their live int he region , though no one bear Karzai anymore,
from Kabul
You are deluded about coalition real intention. They don't care about afghan people. Did they help the millions of people killed in Rwanda ? do they care about the civilian killed in Lybia ? To protect civilians they kill civilians including 3 children days ago. It is impossible to protect civilians bombing civilian houses. They have OTHER different goals.
The Afghanistan case is different from other areas that you mentioned , here we have encountered with wild terrorists that they are ingorant tribe here in the border of PK-AFG , you have to know this and accept the fact and the reality of the gound,
from Kabul
Salerno, do you mean the "coalition" kills civilians on purpose?
Yes p3c3, if you bomb a civilian house obviously you are aware that you are killing civilians. Sometimes they are deliberately killed for retaliation, sometimes they have another target but don't care about the collateral damage.
Misunderstanding on my part. I agree with you, but the coalition intention as a whole is not directed towards killing innocent civilians. Yeah, it seems to me too that there is little concern for those who die in misfires by NATO or the coalition. The way I see it is ignorance for the civilians while the real effort is ousting someone or to alter the politics. There are people helping the civilians, but a mistake like bombing an innocent house should not occur.
Even the AlQaeda intention is not to kill innocent civilians, they target the US military or Cia agents but they do not care if civilians are killed too.
Sure salerno and Gadhafi cares for his people too huh? At least we apologized, Gadhafi lies(like you)and says that he is killing al Qaeda! Also in Afghanistan the Taliban have NO regrets when they kill civilians! WE HAVE NO INTENTION TO KILL CIVILIANS LIKE THE TERRORISTS, THE ASSAD;S, GADHAFI, THE TALIBAN AND THE LIKE! YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE FULL OF CRAP!
I am sure that Ghaddafi killed even some AQ member among the insurgents. They were even in Kosovo.
Anyway there is no respect for human life in general. Americans are like the terrorists. They know that bombing houses civilians are going to die and sometimes they kill innocents for retaliation hoping to intimidate the people.
In Afghanistan a death squad killed a family with 4 members including two women on may 27th, as reported by rawa.
I understand that you are not oriented toward peace.
I would like to enlist a million or more people to say, there is a time for war and a time for peace, and right now there is time for war in aghfanistan because the men are to chauvinistic to run their country with the help of the women, so to achieve democracy it is needed to arm the woman and give the women the power, they will get rid of the taliban, of course it will mean bloodshed, but freedom is seldom conquered without it, once victory is reached, that will be the time for peace and democracy but we need to make together a strong voice. emir
You are completely idiot.
We do not beleive for this peace deals with Taliban Pakistan and ISI, they are our enimies and we never accept them and their backs , they are the wild and killer animals and we do not beleive them , because we know them better and its final chance for Karzai and soon or late he would be end,
from Afghanistan
Animals are often better than american or afghan-pakistani military as they follow their own sharya, do not commit abort, do not lie, do not us missiles or WMD.
thats hilarous, because abortion is a right and we don't use WMDs.
Abort could be a right but it is not a nice thing. I consider all esplosives and missiles WMD as this is the result. They kill people indiscriminately, while rifles are more selective. I know that the war laws do not consider them WMD, but I disagree at least when they are used in civilian areas.
Animals are very better than Taliban, at least animals do respect to their mothers but Taliban do not , just their are the killer and they have to be killed , even they are not Islam and not belonging to other relegions too, Taliban are the dogs of ISI in the region and its up to us to recongnize them well,
from Kabul
Taliban took out another 8 intruders this week, 4 in a combact environment and 4 in a vehicle in the south.
Americans are having talks with some Taliban rappresentant to negotiate the end of the war. If they are true Taliban delegates this is a positive news.
If the Americans and the Taliban do get together, it would be stupendous indeed,especially if the Americans drop their demand for unconditional surrender. We need to fullfill our moral obligations and get out of Afghanistan as soon as possible.
Could be a positive news for ISI and its slave like Karzai and his Taliban affialited ministers, but it never be good news for real people of this country, who know better the Taliban and Taliban is the slave of ISI and never people accept them , no way , in the end Karzia would join his brothers , no option left for him at the moment , and Karzai is the more weak and incapable president that we have ever seen in the world,
from Kabul
Pamiri – Do you think americans are in Afghanistan for you or for the Afgan women ? They are tired and they asked Karzai to talk with Taliban. Probably both USA and Taliban are willing to find a solution. The main problem is the new Afghan consti-tution that could be not fully acceptable by someone, but everyone is looking for a deal at this point a part from you.
What are you guys yapping about now? All religion is false, in my opinion. I will respect your right to practice whatever your religion is....
Also, how about the beatings and the harsh enforcement of Sharia Law in Afghanistan following the Taliban takeover, salerno? But no, the big bad Americans are what cause the nation to be dangerous for women.
Nuc – Sharya law is perfect. Unfortunately there are many false sharya laws made by men and not by God. There are just 4 orthodoxic sharya laws and the wahabe is not among them. I am not religious but I consider all the religion and traditions true revelations, the Taoism, Hinduism, judaism, christianity and Islam, the most recent, tolerant and vital.
The Taliban made up their own rules as they went, thus being oppresive to women. Also Sharia restricts a woman's ability to dress how she wants to. Don't tell me you think women need to cover their faces.
Taliban are not so oppressive versus women as they are painted. It is american propaganda to gain support for the war.
Women are oppressed by war, by poverty, by local tribal customs, by individual crimes.
Islam and Sharya law protect women. Pakistan blasphemy law is not sharya for istance. Any country can make the laws as they want.
More right-wing bla-bla-bla from Nucularinternets. It never ends. I wonder if this jerk even knows what he's talking about considering all the ignorance he keeps on vomiting on this web page!
i like how you called me a right-winger without recognizing that I said that "all religion" including Christianity, was false. In many ways I respect Islam a lot more than I do Christianity. For instance, Islam bans any form of racism, something Christianity unfortunately does not.
I'm pretty far-left. According to political compass I am -4.65 economic and -1.90 social.
I wouldn't say that all religion is false, Nucularinternets. Do you honestly believe that the 1858 apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to Barnardette Soubirou at Lourdes, France was truly false? Somehow, I don't think so. Some miracles do happen even today. Then again, for those who believe, no explanation is necessary and for those who don't, no explanation is possible!
Afghanistan is dangerous not just for women, but even for children, men, soldiers, cats and dogs. The war is the main cause of danger. Other violence comes from tribal custom, individual crimes, but it is present even in other countries.
When Taliban ruled the country before 2002 I had an italian- non muslim- female friend working in Afghaniistan as surgeon with Emergency along with other women and she had no problem. Problems were caused mostly by the american invasion.
in a day during the Taliban more than 5000 people were killed in a day , but still you are saying there was not a problem????? yest just for Taliban there was not a problem, but for those who loved their country was many problmes
Dan – the power of God is a caress for anyone walking on the path toward the Truth 360 degrees.
IF the truth of 360 degrees is Jesus Christ only!
The truth of 360 degrees is a man made cult!
So shut mouth salerno, your full of CRAP! The world does not need people to satisfy EVIL!
That's alright, salerno. Some people just don't think but don't that bother you. Your posts are quite intelligent and straightforward and I enjoy reading them.
Thank you Dan from Detroit for your approval. I find your posts intelligent too.
So God will reward those who torture and kill if they disobey the religious fanatics of a governing nation or any peoples for that matter huh?
Dan – you have not any idea of a true christian. In America there are no Christians. Even my mother was only a superficial christian. She covered her head in the church, and she came from a family of christian Templars, as they had the mission to protect the christian pilgrims in the holy land with the cooperation of the muslims chavalry orders.
A muslim know better than you what is the christianity in their positive and negative expressions.
So shut your mouth salerno, your full of CRAP! The world does not need people to satisfy EVIL!
Even if Jesus is not God he is the only begotten Son of God and the only way to HIM!
Ishmael was called by God a wild donkey and now his ancestors are proving it to be true! Issac Is the man born form Abraham and Sarah not a slave that was promised the Holy land and was a man that followed God faithfully not like Ishmael!
I mean his descendants.
I'm sorry many of his descendants are proving it!
Your words are full of lies and nonsense and only comfort yourself, not Jesus, God or Humanity! And as I told you before you will see!
Complex? Coming from a person like you who believes that the people marching in Syria for their freedom being mowed down by Assad with no compassion are insurgents tells me that you and he are of the devil same as bin Laden, the Assad's and Gadhafi!
Dan – I am disgusted by the military repression not just by the US military, but even by the military in the muslim countries.
Anyway Syrya is not responsible for war crimes as someone said wrongly, as to have a war crime you need a war and there is no war in Syria.
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Dan – you will be unable to see me. You will be looking for mercy very soon.
It is normal that people are killed during a civil war. Afghanistan always had wars and dead people even before the Taliban in the last 2 centuries because the western aggression and the soviet. I do not enter inside internal violence betwen different tribes or inter muslims fights. The national borders are imposed after UK invasion and do not correspond to ethnical reality.
The Taliban is evil and all who put an end to them will be rewarded by God!
And all who put their support behind them and/or advance their propaganda will stand before God for their due Judgment!
God never told to fight against the Taliban. Are you speaking for God ?
God told us to hate evil and when his children's lives are being taken surely he wants someone to stop it!
salerno you are ignorant PERIOD! I never said Jesus told anyone to hate anyone PERIOD! And IF you knew me then you can say whether or not if I had a speck or a log in my eye PERIOD! And as far as Christians go you have to first know that he IS the only way to be forgiven of sins PERIOD! And that is NOT what the Muslims believe PERIOD! So their are NO Christians in the Muslim world PERIOD!
Inside the christianity sins were forgiven through the cleric intermediation. The sacraments including confessions were abrogated by the last prophet at least for the muslims. There is no intermediary betwen a muslim and God (Allah).
"Jesus told us to hate evil" was post by Dan 18 june 5:37
That's why your sins are not forgiven!
It says GOD dummy and that is in the old testament! Also the only way to God now is through Jesus!
Also did not Jesus turn over the money changers tables in His temple built by Solomon? Surely He thought that was evil and hated it!
Dan – If you are protestant your sins are not forgiven as Jesus told the power to forgive sins are given to his churchs cleriics or priests. Only throgh the sacraments of confessions sins can be forgiven, not through Jesus directly.
It is true that Jesus was violent against the merchants in the temple, but it was an isolate case and he did it directly, did not allow anyone to do this on his name. So do not use Jesus as a pretest for wars, especially if the wars are an aggression.
IF YOU ASK JESUS TO BE FORGIVEN YOU ARE FORGIVEN! YOU DO NOT NEED NO OTHER TO BE FORGIVEN AND THERE IS NO OTHER WAY! AS FOR WARS, WHEN THEIR IS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE THAT ATTACKERS OF YOUR STATE ARE IN THE LAND AND NOT BEING GIVEN UP BY THE RULERS THEN THE RULERS ARE ALSO HELD RESPONSIBLE! ALSO THE TERROR NETWORK AL QAEDA HAS DECLARED WAR ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA SO WE WILL GO WHERE EVER THEY ARE AND KILL OR CAPTURE THEM! AND IF THEIR ARE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THE WORLD TO HELP THEM BECAUSE THEIR RULER IS KILLING THEM EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO STOP THE MAD MAN! GOD WOULD ASK NOTHING OTHER FROM EVERY NATION!
DAN-
YOU ARE HERETIC CHRISTIAN SPREADING HINDUISM.
ABSOLUTION FROM SINS COMES FROM THE SACRAMENT OF CONFESSION
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE GOSPELS WHERE JESUS SAYS TO ASK HIM FOR FORGIVENESS. HE LET THIS JOB TO THE APOSTILES AND THE FORGIVER IS THE FATHER NOT THE SON.
READ ALL THE GOSPELS! AS A MATTER OF FACT WHY DON'T YOU READ THE WHOLE BIBLE AGAIN! MATHEW 9:1-2, MARK 2:5, LUKE 4: 44-50, JOHN 8; 34-36! AND ELSEWHERE HE TELLS THAT HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER!
HE WAS THE ONLY WAY BUT SINS ARE FORGIVEN THROUGH CURCH INTERMEDIATION AND SACRAMENTS.
lUTHER WAS AN HERETIC ABROGATING SACRAMENTS, WHILE MOHAMMED PROPHECY INCORPORATED AND COMPLETED JESUS WAY AS THE PROPHECY IS ONE AND ALL THE 25 PROPHETS ARE ONE FROM ADAM TO S. JOAHN BAPTIST TO JESUS AND TO MOHAMMED. THEY ARE ONE IN THE SPIRIT.
LUTHER NOT IUTER
JESUS WAS THE ONLY WAY IN THAT TIME LIKE MOSES WAS THE ONLY WAY IN HIS TIME. FORTUNATELY THERE IS AL KHIDR WHO IS EQUIVALENT TO THE MELKITSEDEK IN THE BIBLE AND ABLE TO GO THROUGH THE DIFFERENT RELIGIONS.
YOU ARE following a false prophet! Jesus said the spirit of truth will follow him not any man! MEANING the HOLY SPIRIT, WHICH CAN ONLY BE GOTTEN WITH THE FAITH IN HIM AS SAVIOR! He said of the prophets from the blood of Abel to the the of Zechariah, it shall be required of THIS generation! HE NEVER SAID THERE WOULD BE ANOTHER PROPHET!
JESUS WAS CORRECT BUT HE NEVER SAID THERE WOULD NOT BE A NEW PROPHET ANYMORE, HE SAID THERE WILL BE FALSE PROPHETS AND HE WAS CORRECT. MOHAMMED SAID THERE WILL BE NO MORE PROPHETS.
Zechariah WAS the last prophet! And yes Jesus said there will be false prophets and Mohammed is one of them! Please tell ME what he had a prophecy of that came about or will!
PROPHECY IS A WORD COMING FROM OLD GREEK LANGUAGE MEANING SPEAKING FOR (PRO=FOR AND PHEMY = TO SPEAK). ANY SOUND, ANY WORD COMING FROM THE ONE SPEAKING FOR GOD IS A PROPHECY.
So then there are millions of prophets then huh? YOU ARE IGNORANT!
The prophets are those indicated in the Bible and in the Quran, about 25 inside the sons of Ibrahim.
Jesus asked personally to his Father to forgive the sins and after his death let this intermadiation to his apostiles (church).
Mohammed abrogated the sacraments and the curch, like Jesus abrogated the jewish ritual based on the levitic priestwood, but the jewish still consider Jesus a false prophet.
priesthood not priestwood.
Mohammad being a false prophet did not perform any miracle.
The Qur'an very clearly says of Muhammad that he performed no signs. In Surah 6.37, when Muhammad's adversaries say "Why has no sign been sent down to him from his Lord?", Muhammad is bidden to reply merely that God could send one if he wanted to but had not done so.
In the same Surah we read that Muhammad said, "I have not that for which you are impatient" (Surah 6.57), meaning signs and wonders such as Moses had. He goes on to say that if he had had them, the dispute between him and them would have been decided long ago.
It is very possible that a jinn was there in the cave where mohammad lived as the quran records that mohamamd was jinn possessed and was deceived.
Mohammad a Madman (Majnun – lit., "jinn-possessed")
And they say: "O you (Muhammad) to whom the Dhikr (the Qur'an) has been sent down! Verily, you are a mad man. Why do you not bring angels to us if you are of the truthful ones?" S. 15:6 Hilali-Khan
Or do they say, 'He is possessed by a ginn?' Nay, he came to them with the truth, and most of them are averse from the truth. S. 23:70 Palmer
Then they had turned away from him (Messenger Muhammad) and said: "One (Muhammad) taught (by a human being), a madman!" S. 44:14 Hilali-Khan; cf. Q. 34:46; 37:36; 68:2, 51
Muhammad Being Deceived
Narrated Jundub bin Sufyan:
Once Allah's Apostle became sick and could not offer his night prayer (Tahajjud) for two or three nights. Then a lady (the wife of Abu Lahab) came and said, "O Muhammad! I think that your Satan has forsaken you, for I have not seen him with you for two or three nights!" On that Allah revealed: 'By the fore-noon, and by the night when it darkens, your Lord (O Muhammad) has neither forsaken you, nor hated you.' (93.1-3) (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 6, Book 60, Number 475)
Muslims very well know that mohammad was a false prophet but they are too scared to leave their cult so they call Paul a false prophet like "dream" has done when they very well know that he was an Apostle.
falseisreligion – you are confused and spreading absurdities. Muslims do not say Paul was a false prophet as he never claimed to be a prophet.
Additionally miracles are not indicative of a prophet as they can be done even by awlyia shaytan.
There are other prophets like David or S. John Baptist that never performed miracles like Jesus, but stil are considered prophets by all the 3 monotheistic religions. So you are dead wrong in every part of your post.
Okay. I was wrong. But the Jews fortold the occurance of Islam and warned against it.
"If a prophet, or one who foretells by DREAMS, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. " Deu. 13:1
It is good to hear someone who knows of the muslim faith falsereligion, thank you for speaking up so that maybe more can be saved, HOPEFULLY! I myself would never touch the book because without Jesus i would not be here and i know there is no other greater than He or even close here on earth!
Yacobi – falseisreligion admitted to be wrong saying "ok I was wrong". Only Dan did not realize that, but he is completely lost. Who is wrong one time can be wrong more times again so it is worthless reading and commenting other lucubrations ported by him.
salerno, yakobobi, I KNOW where I am going and in about one thousand years if you still believe what you do I will see you again and this time i SURELY will have no mercy!
Dan – You will be unable to see me and you are the one looking for mercy very soon.
HA! Let ME tell you what falsereligion was telling you he was wrong on. Paul like you said was not a prophet, but as you say David neither was a prophet! Everything else he says is true! And i AM with the HOLY SPIRIT and JESUS with ME, i NEED no mercy! As for those who love evil they SHALL follow bin Laden to the center of the earth and we will see them again in about one thousand years! As for you, you being so ignorant you Might not have to wait so long, But if you love bin Laden, Gadhafi, the Assad's or the Taliban i would not think so!
Islamic tradition reports David as a prophet and like Adam and Mohammed a Khalipha too, meaning the one who is rappresenting God with the sword (phisycal force). Jesus was not a Khalipha, but was the one with the peculiarity of being born without an human father.
That's why Islam is a false religion! Adam was not brought down from anywhere, he was made here and was not a prophet nor was David. they never had a prophecy of any kind!
That excerpt is from Hilali Khan, or the Noble Quran, a translation of the Quran by Dr. Muhhamad Khan. The quote I posted coems originally from AL-Hijr, 15:6. (As of course, it is corresponding.)
15:6 Wa Qālū Yā 'Ayyuhā Al-Ladhī Nuzzila `Alayhi Adh-Dhikru 'Innaka Lamajnūnun
Key word here is lamaJNunun. As you have probably figured, this is related to djinn, as is majnun which you most likely know of to mean mad/crazy/ or again, possesed by jinn.
Sorry, I meant majnun as a noun, so madman – possesed by djinn. So I would say it is adapted figurative language.
This is quite correct. Even if some miracles or prodigious event occurred inside Islam, Jesus was inimitable as miracles performer because the spirit of Allah run direclty through him having no human father, but the miracles always come from Allah.
Adam (Qadmon) was a prophet and a khalipha like David because he was the vicarious of God on the earth and received the power over the other beings.
Dan – There are even prophets unknown in the christian and judaic tradition like Salih and Hud. They were among the old populations of Arabic peninsula.
Religion is just a system of beliefs. A muslim holds a system of beliefs. Muslims all believe in a truth. There beliefs are rooted in a common set of beliefs. Do you belief Muhhamad was visited by an angel? Islamic scriptures are mostly based of of Muhhamads revealings. Were you there to listen to Muhhamad, or were you there to witness Muhhamad in the cave? You believe in messangers, don't you? "Islam is divine guidance." Every religion makes this claim. But what is it guidance to? By the way, there is no violation of the truth. Lies, "false beliefs as you claim", all fall within the realm of existance. Truth has many different meanings in context, so it is difficult to analyze what you are trying to state. Please tell me what exactly you mean by truth. Do you mean the truth that exists beyond knoledge? Also, do you pray. And if so, what and why do you pray – if you are okay with answering. You don't have to pray to hold a set of beliefs. If you can clearly verify your beliefs, which till now noone has done to my knoledge, then.... please do.
Here "Jinn is a word of the collective number in Arabic, derived from the Arabic root ǧ-n-n meaning 'to hide' or 'be hidden'. Other words derived from this root are maǧnūn 'mad' (literally, 'one whose intellect is hidden'), ǧunūn 'madness', and ǧanīn 'embryo, fetus' ('hidden inside the womb').[3]" Taken from Wiki.
Here is some voilence against women by bad people and we know them who they are, I am agree the most bad country for the women is Afghanistan but not in all aspects, here is some people respect women and give them worth and value in all live aspects.
As today I heard by news the most dangerous country for women is Pakistan, you know two people in Harry Poor Pakistan forced on women to bare walked in village in front of all villagers, I think this is the worsest action aganist women, isn't it ? and many other cases are happying like this on daily base ,
from Kabul
Who stupid put my ID name there Pamiri ( the comment on dancing women is not belonging to me) someone else put my name there pamiri, I never can say such words for women , women are mothers , sisters etc and have to be respected and i respect all women around the world,
from Kabul pamiri
This ought get all the NATO forces to become quite glassy-eyed for a while. These guys have such dirty minds!
Had the Russians won in Afghanistan some 25 years ago, today Afghanistan would be quite a safe place for women and the Afghans on the whole would be living in relative prosperity now. But tragically enough, the outsiders had to interfere and mess up everything and the Afghans are paying dearly for it!!!
How true that is, George. It's too bad that most people are too ignorant to realize it. Just look at all these nasty pictures of women being posted by these right-wing idiots here. This proves the very mentality of these right-wing nutjobs!