CNN's Phil Black reports on a Taliban-led massacre in an Afghan bank.
I am not saying which culture is right or wrong, all cultures have their own characteristics, which could be acceptable for the people and not, but what is Taliban and some those who affiliated with Taliban are doing the brutal things against women in Afghanistan and Pakistan, they think that the women just should sit in the home and do the house chores, women can be a doctor, engineer, teacher etc, though the god is saying, learning education is for both male and female it means if the male can be a doctor, engineer working outside of the house then why women should do that,
One thing more every country has its own regulations I respect all, and fortunately in Afghanistan the women is following the regulations that given by the law to them, but most of time have seen that in tribal areas and where the Taliban have there save heavens the women have lived under the violence and brutality of Taliban. You know better the killing, force marriage, under age marriage with old man, cutting of noses and ears, burning of women and etc by the Taliban and their affiliated people. Otherwise Islam order to equity among women and men!
The shelter which is running by the national organization and some international organization is completely running to the rue and regulation of the country accordingly, and fortunately better. But there is some element along with Karzai just they want that how to occupy the resources which have been using for women to solve their problems. Therefore, the Karzai and his lobbies launching the propaganda to take this shelters under the control of the government.
We Afghans all knows that what and in which part the government have done well since this ten years that all the international forces are helping us, most the money is gone to the individual, which spent by the government and we do not have any achievement that the government did that.
Just we have the big achievement from the Karzai (King of corruption) government one which is corruptions and the other big achievement which is the production of drug, all the areas which the brothers of Karzai are living there, are the red area of drugs smuggling, killing and suicide bombing then how we can believe on this type of person which is running the country that he can run the shelter through his affiliated and spoiled partialities.
I think they want through shelters teach the women, how to do suicide bombing and drugs business and etc.
From Kabul Afghanistan
You see the video then you give your comment on it, I think right men/women can not kill human being as the Taliban (Aqaeda) are killing, god take the devil Taliban into hell, it is the promise of god
in the president, parliamentary election this year, the election commission head was not in favor of Karzai and did not do in the favor of Karzai and did not pass those people why were in favor of Karzai and now Karzai created a especial court on the election commission, though the election commission is independent,. Karzai is interfering in that why? and Karzai is this especial court is unequal, but due to he is illegal president then he broken the law and create a especial court in favor of Karzai, to bring more Pashtuns in Parliament. the head of election commission is very honest and well-known person, the head of election commission resistances against Karzai, the people also support the election commission but the government not, why? Because the president is a Pashtun and he is supporting Pashtuns not other ethnics
Obviously elections are problematic during a war time. Remain the fact that Karzai was put in place by the US BEFORE the election.
The election, which Karzai chose as president was very corrupted and fraudulent, the election commission and courts are his own, and the Pakistani from beyond the border of Afghanistan voted for Karzai, Even Taliban and Izbe Islami, whcih all of the are Alqaeda, voted for Karzai, and also in most of the south and the east of the country the ballot boxes, were filled by the Karzai's supporters through unequal process. for example, where people were living 2000 people, the cast votes for Karzai was 10000 fraudulent vote, then how we can say the people vote for Karzia and on the other hand the rate of women paricipation in most of south and east provinces were higher than men according to the vote cast, but in practice the men can not go there, except if you are not Taliban, then by the wisdom we can say, who is supporting who? clearly Ize Islami Pashtuns (Pakistan-Iran, China) support Karzai by diffent ways, having of ministers in the government and other high positions etc, ……. On the other hand Karzai is supporting Taliban through postponing the military operations on their nets which is located in the south and east of the country, if Taliban kills 100 people in a minute by suicide bomber and etc , the government ignores why because Taliban are Pashtuns and the president Karzai too, but when some Taliban being killing by the international forces then the government and their lobbies launch propagandas that the civilians has been killed by the intentional forces, it is like some sort of support to the Taliban, the point that I am trying to make is that there is some politics there is no different between Karzai and Taliban, just their goal is to get power and according then they want to take all the power to the of Pashtuns not other ethnic group, and this process have the historical roots that have supported by Pakistan and Russian to show that the Pashtuns are the major ethnic group in the country, in fact this is not the fact, this unreal concept gives benefits to Pakistan and Russian, to keep active the civil war in the country and they (Pak-Russian ) missus from the foolishness and literacy of the Pashtuns, Pakistan have supported Pashtuns to destroy the country like destroying schooling, bridges, clinics, infrastructures etc to keep them illiterate and foolish to sustain the Pakistan’s benefits in the Afghanistan and region
May be Karzai is pretending he is Non Taliban and using Dollars for his own benefit and helping secretly ?? Oh!!! God ..what about the normal innocent men and women dying there ?what about the troops who went their trusting that Karzai help the democratic way??
Karzai is trying to negotiate in order to avoid civilians death. Everyday US military, criminals and Taliban are killing civilians.
Karzai was pushed by the US to negotiate, and the elections were controlled by US-Nato.
Please do not fight and let us talk, I am from Kabul I know that Karzai has many Taliban and Alqaeda brothers, and Why Obama is supporting him, though no one want Karzai as president except some Taliban -Alqeada and their Pashtun supporters !!!
Pamiri – I do not support Karzai, but what you are saying is very strange as the Taliban did not vote, and Karzai won the elections, so it was voted by the non-Taliban.
salerno...I have heard the election was fraud . Actually Pamiri's post is giving a brand new Idea about Karzai and Obama both. Thank God she /he is not an extremist. On the other hand you say Taliban did not want. Then why Karzai help them? How do we understand this ?
It was just cheated and fruad by Karzai band, all the world know that
In my original country we had a civil war too during WWII. I know what it means. We had a lot of violence for years, but we attacked first the US, so the reaction was normal. Only individual crimes should be punished, but nobody can punish the americans. This is the problem. In Italy prisoners were executed by the US and by the Nazi as they were not considered legal combatants even if thei were fighting in theeir country.
Negotiation with justice, we have brought democracy by sacrificing many lives in the country but Karzia is forgiving and loosing everything to the Taliban at once Why ? I am a Muslim and fortunately I am not extremist as Karzia is! There should some award and punishment system otherwise you can not bring stability and peace to the country, we are the eyewitnesses of the many cases that the Karzai released the Taliban with supporting them financially through the international resources, but some days later again they joint the Taliban rebellions back, is not a big hand of Karzai in strengthening the Taliban and Alqeda in Afghanistan and region!
Pamiri..if what you say is true for sake of all the good men died in the battle against Taliban ...,US government should not help Karzai. Meanwhile Obama pulled the troops out from Iraq and he will do the same with Afghanistan one day. Yet ..what will happen to innocent people in Afghanistan then if Kar zai is also a Bad guy. 😦
Now is also people do not have believe on Karzai and his administration to work for them and most of the key positions occupied by Karzai's affilaited people, because Karzai his working just for his ethnic group and Karzai has escalated the ethnic tension among the Afghan people and also he is supporting Taliban through different sources like Pakistan and Iran and Russia, to put pressure on international forces to recognize Taliban as political party, but, in fact the Taliban is not human being they are wild, before the international’s coming to the country to destroy the Taliban’s nets here , here were very important and homeland loved people and loyal to the people who were fighting and resisting against the Taliban, it was and it is the northern alliance, and again this northern alliance fighting against Taliban (Alqaeda) instead of international forces, but we Afghans and who is thinking impartially is happy with the international forces to completely defeat the Taliban, and we the people of this country appreciate the help and the supports of international forces, and we share our condolence with those who have sacrificed their lives to protect us, god bless you to remove all the wild and bad fascists,
Taliban have killed many innocent people , even in one day they killed about 3000 or more people when they were on power, and they are the people not amendable, Taliban just want killing and forcing on others, killing humanity and civilization and generalizing the barbarism and terrorism around the world.
If Taliban have killed many Afghan people and their international friends, then how its comes under the authority of Karzai to forgive Taliban from what Taliban have committed, there many reason behind, that why Karzai is forgiving Taliban that I want to raise some of them here, first Karzai and Taliban are both from the same ethnic group which is Pashtun!, Karzai was fighting and was the active member of Taliban before occupying the power by the PAK, and UK support through misleading USA by the PAK, and now Karzai is working for the benefit of the Pakistan, not for the benefit of Afghans and their international communities! Look every day many innocent people are killing by the Taliban in Afghanistan, but never Karzai give the name of Taliban regarding the suicide attacks and car bombing and etc why, Because Karzai is a Taliban and his some minister as well!
Karzai did not ask from the people, but he made a peace committee to waste the resources in individual pockets, even Taliban clearly declare that they do not want to make peace with Karzai, but still Karzia is releasing Taliban from the jails, and nowadays Karzai sent some high official from the peace committee to release 20 high Taliban commander from Guantanamuo jail to the USA, why ? because he want to strengthening the Taliban and Pakistan line against the Afghans people and Karzai do not want to bring stable government and peace for the people of the country! Just Karzai wants how to make capitals for himself and for his brothers!
I don't enter in other countries internal fights, as I respect all the people. I criitic the US intervention as well and I think negotiation is important to end a civil war, otherwise you will keep on fighting forever.
sakerno..God did not say Taliban. Yet God has said not to associate with criminals. (The people who are so rude to women) and doing other crimes.
Pamiri....well explained and written . Good posts.
thanks , but the truth should be said, no matter if its against me, as you all know some people do not have the capacity of adopting,
WHO EVER KILL THE INNOCENTS ARE GOING TO HELL........:THEREFORE SHOULD NOT KILL ANY INNOCENT MAN OR WOMEN DOES NOT MATTER WHICH NATIONALITY THEY ARE.
So all the fighter pilots killing civilians with missiles are going to hell ?
US pilots attack Taliban hide outs only. Innocents (civilians without arms should leave Taliban) should not be with criminals even God has said it.
Dindy – I have to call you IDIOT again as God never spoke about Taliban
Bush Sr. and Jr also Clinton done their best for America. Be it Jr. and his administration got some false info on WMD, he should have left when he got Saddam. He was a ruthless killer and needed justice by the people of Iraq.
No – WMD were an excuse and they fabricated false informations. The evil policy by BushS-Clinton was to engage a prolonged bombing, while Reagan was more effective even with the results, in the same time he made less victims both side. With Bush and Clinton started a very bad deviation in US policy, and people is not yet aware of this. They persecuted even US citizens like B. Fisher for their opinions.
If you are old, you are justified, as the old age is often linked to mind's problems.
There are violent people inside Islam, but they must be engaged by the local police. When they attack another country, the attacked country has the right to fight them, but targeting the individuals, not the population.
R.Reagan adopted a better strategy against terrorism, with LIMITED bombing in Libia. 60 people were killed, may be more, but it was a normal respons to Gadafi terrorism. It was succesfull as Gaddafi changed.
Nevertheless, the operation was not supported, Italy and France negated their skyes to the US planes, and Italian PM even sdvised Gaddafi of the attack allowing him to escape.
There is nothing wrong with my mind as i remember from childhood, I also remember you saying Ronald Reagan was wrong in bombing Lebanon which I do not recall. And if the ruling government is allowing them safe haven surely they are a target of attack also just like Libya.
Lebanon was wrong, anyway it was a one time episode like the more justified Libian bombing. Reagan did succed, while Bush1-2 and Clinton were a disaster for US.
Recently I read the story of M. Izbicki, and wish to thank him to be a good christians, an exemplum for others.
He asked the navy to recognize his objector status and after loosing the first round succeded.
He understood that a christian could never approve a war, neither supporting it even in non combatant roles.
He was discharged with honor !! This is the only way the christianity could be enhanced, not by giving bible to the people !!
I guess his faith is stronger than his American heritage, but the God says to stand strong for your homeland.
JESUS NEVER TOLD THAT.
JESUS EVEN TOLD TO PAY TAX TO A FOREIGN OCCUPIER NATION. HE DID NOT CARE A THING ABOUT HOMELAND.
I was skimming through the Bible and I remember GOD saying this before Jesus' birth and as for Jesus everything is under his authority and I am sure He would want others to stand up against Islamic terrorists(and I do not care to hear that their fight is for revenge because that is false just as is the prophet Mohammad)who kill innocent people who have done them no harm!
JESUS NEVER TOLD THAT. THIS IS WHY THE JEISH PREFERRED TO FREED BARABBA.
I am old, but I do remember reading in the Bible somewhere that it is good for a man to serve his nation in this manner. Unless of course the ruler(s) in charge are expansionists and just want to rule the world as your beloved religion has so much faith in, to put in action these Islamic extremist fighters who kill Christians, Jews and Muslims alike who do not believe in their insane killings and jihad. And did you hear the news? There has been 10 bombs exploded in playgrounds in Afghanistan and you tell me these people are not killer animals and should not be treated as such? Also for your information it was Jesus' purpose to die on the cross, for our salvation.
No, I am filled with the Holy Spirit.
Hilarious- talk to the hand.
Dan your big fantasy cannot help your little brains
YOU SHALL KNOW!
Shut up idiot ! You are ridiculous fanatic.
Alqeda and Taliban are the brother of Karzai , so they can to every thing, there is some other ministries in Afghanistan who support Taliban directly and indirectly,
beat all Taliban Alqeda and their supporters every where,
From Afghanistan Kabul
Karzai was put in his place by the US beecause he is anti-taliban and their relatives were even killed by the Taliban. So what pamiri is saying is not true. On the other side Karzai istrying to stop a civil war through negotiation and moderation.
This is a new position for Karzqi and should be appreciated by all the Afghan people.
Every time the Afghan forces arrest Taliban, but the President who support Taliban Alqaeda and Pashtuns, release the Taliban, because most of Taliban is Pashtun and Karzai too, so why Karzai is releasing them. I belief the international forces should remove Karzai from his job, he is Taliban and he is Aqaeda. look Karzai is begun a releasing and empowering Taliban under the name of peace process, which most of Afghan are against the process, but Karzai sent some delegations to the united states to release 20 high Taliban commanders, is it good work? its completely against the humanity and against the Afghan people. Taliban is killing people every day but Karzai is trying to release them why?
Karzai is misusing the resources of the united states in Afghanistan. We all humanity should be get unite against this kind of wild people like Karzai, to put in right direction our people and humanity.
We all we reap what we sow. I so so tired
of all the blood shed
salerno.. March 3rd 7:10 is good post.
Jesus Forgiveness was spiritual. It is possible only after the material justice has accomplished. This was clarified by S. Paul.
What do you mean by spiritual? does that mean that you can forgive but then kill and God will not punish?
Dan – I have no time to explain you everything. You must study your religion as this matter is broadly addressed in S. Paul epistolas.
I have read the writings of Paul many times, there is nothing you can explain to me that I do not already know.
So why did you ask, idiot ?
I want your opinion.
My opinion is not important, You have to understand the truth by yourself, as it is clearly expressed, so may be you do not want to understand.
Dan....speak to, the talking spirit in the man and command it "go" in the name of Jesus Christ !!! otherwise you can talk till the next year. :)with him 🙂
Jesus' forgiveness is meant for all to finally once love one another and not hold anything against anyone if they should be remorseful and ask for forgiveness, but like you said one shall do the time for the crime. It is up to the judge if he or she will not do it again or how much time is needed for their rehabilitation.
Bin Laden was the judge for thousands of americans.
And for this reason he awaits God's judgment.
God will judge everybody, invcluding the american pseudo-christains, not just Bin Laden.
And all who do good works for the people of the world will be rewarded and those who have doe bad and destructive things to the world along with the killing intentionally of innocent people will forever be condemned.
Dan – this time you are right, but the valuation belongs to God, as even the American killed innocent intentionally. When you fire missiles instead of using the same kind of weapon used by the enemy it is obvious you kill everyone in the zone including womwn and children.
This is why I call the enemy cowards, because they hide behind the civilian population. And how do you know if our fighters knew that their were civilians there?
I call your fighters cowards because they are using weapons of mass destruction instead of rifles like the enemy. When the cowards fire missiles into civilian houses, or shops , or villages, surely there are civilians killed.
In Falluja they told the civilians to evacuate, before using gas, but how can the elders and the children not self sufficient, or the wounded escape ? I would be able to run away, but not evryone.
Dan ..when the devil speaks Jesus never argued with long sentences. JESUS did command that evil spirits to leave the men with the authority of God !!! A man with a talking spirit of Devil never get tired so they make the other normal person get tired
Great post Dan. yet salerno thinks Bin is the Judge 🙂 🙂 Then why we need a God/?? saleno is going crazy
Bin Laden used his judgment and reacted to Clinton's attempts to kill him and civilians in Sudan and Afghanistan.
GOVERNMENT IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD HELP THESE PEOPLE"S FAMILIES WHO GOT KILLED IN THIS BANK.
THANK YOU CNN FOR POSTING.
DAN – STUPID LUCUBRATIONS
Church was raptured since 1304-7
Dan – You are a false christian, but too little to be a threath.
So in 1304 Jesus came and took all his followers and left the world to be as it will, huh?
Dan – NO, IDIOT.
Well what do you mean by the statement above?
No means no. It is difficoult to translate ? It is a negation of what you told above.
TRINITY IS MUCH BETTER !!! AT LEAST OUR HEARTS REPENT WHEN SOMETHING WRONG HAPPENED.
REPENT WORTH NOTHING IF YOU KEEP GOING ON ON THE SAME PATH AS YOU DO.
Jesus says if a man should ask for forgiveness(and of course be remorseful)you should forgive him 7×70 times, meaning always be forgiving!
So why do you want to capture Osama ?
Is he remorseful? Did he ask for forgiveness? And besides, justice must be served and will be!
Are the christians remorsefull ? Did they ask forgivemnes? Whey they keep killing innocent people ?
This is why you will have other attacks, because justice must be done.
The Christians are not fighting you guys YET! NATO and ANA forces are, and they are because your friends wish not to relent from their barbaric killings of innocent people who want to be free from your insanity!
The christians are fighting, they pretend to be christians, but the true christians are the muslims, as they recognized the true Jesus teaching. There are even chapelan in the army, and they are killing Jesus again and again...
salerno,even the Muslims must think your crazy, because they truly do not believe they are Christians.
And when you kill Jesus again and again is not when you continually sin but when you do not believe him as the Savior and resurrected on the third day! As stated by Paul!!!
Dan – You IDIOT- Jesus told what you do to one man is like if you did to me. IF you kill somone you kill Jesus.
Faith is a secret, you have it just yin your mouth, not in your heart.
Jesus never said that, what He said is do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And Islamic extremists do not follow that belief so what is the western civilization supposed to do , let these killers run wild and free to do their insane killings according to their religious beliefs?
And you do not know what is in my heart and cannot comprehend what comes out of my mouth so join your friends in their insane jihad and follow them to hell!
Dan – Jesus told exactly what I said "What you do to anyone is like if You did it to me". You don't rememmber because you are a false christian. I showed you the quoting when you denied ythe Jesus word last time. It was about "Be perfect like perfect is my father ". I am always right and you are always wrong, because you are ANTI-CHRISTIAN. Follower of Satan.
Tell me where in the bible He said that?
Dan – you must first admit to be wrong on the precedent "be perfect like my father" as I did not hear your apologizes.
Better for you if you would study really your religion and become a good educated christian.
I know i am not wrong, He never said that and you have to prove it. He says be perfect like my father to those who do not love their enemies. If you want to quote the Bible you must study it first!
Dan – you stupid. Be perfect is not just to love the enemy. It was an exemplum and Jesus was TALKING TO THE CROWD not just to the people who did not love the enemy. IDIOT !!
Salerno, I want you to know many years ago I was a deacon of a church in Chicago and I have read three different versions of the Holy Bible. Also I read it most everyday, and your faith should not be a secret but should be shouted out to the world, for that is the reason Jesus sent out His disciples and why Paul went out to all the nations to preach the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And this is why we don't put Jesus first in our lives.
You do not know Christ so do not pretend to! READ MATHEW 5:43-49.
And of course He was always talking to the crowd, ant-iChrist!
I mean anti-Christ.
Dan – this is just to inform you that one can be a deacon and stil win the NOBEL PRIZE FOR STUPIDITY if one was put in place.
3 version of the Bible is not enough if you are unable to read THE ONE IN ORIGINAL LANGUAGE.
Faith should be propagated with the exemplum and actions, not with stupid words.
Finally I was right, as he was talking to the CROWD nad NOT TO SELECTED KIND OF PEOPLE (those who did not love the enemy) AS YOU WRONGLY TOLD. It was an exemplum, but PEFECTION IS SOMETHING MORE THAN TO LOVE THE ENEMY : IS UNITY AS REPORTED IN S: JOHN GOSPE.
Dan – As you did, I too want you to know I received Baptism, other sacraments, and holy commion since when I was 17 years old.
Sorry, not since, but untill I was 17, as later I walked away.
You are the idiot salerno 1) for walking away from eternal life and 2) everyone at that time and most everyone now does not love their enemies, so yes He was talking to the crowd, And I tell you that your kind of talk against Christians will not fair well with God on your judgment day!!
Dan – Jesus made a long speeching to the crowd, and spoke about murder, adultery, justice, charity, ending with the phrase "be perfect like your Father is". So your statement that he was speaking just to those not loving the enemy is irrelevant even if nobody loves really the enemy even now, after 2000 years.
I am talking bad abiut the false christians as they are not followers of Jesus teaching, because they not only do not love the enemy, but even support the wars and the killing of innocent people.
Dan – about my walking away from modern christianity, I am not alone as many muslims posting here converted from christianity. Even in the US many converted like Mohammed Alì, Tyson, etc...
salerno, many Muslims may be good people but these that which you show so much love for are the Anti-Christ and the beast from within will gain support from ten Muslim nations to fight against what you call false Christians. This will occur after the rapture of the church when you Muslims will believe that your god Allah has given you victory over the Christians because it would seem that their all dead, but their spirits will rise up with Jesus' Holy Spirit and all will be given new bodies. The extremist Islamic Muslims will rule under strict sharia law during the great tribulation, but in the end you shall be defeated by the power of God! Revelation had warned you but you wish to follow a false prophet and believe that Islam is the way God will have us all live, but again YOU SHALL KNOW!!!
THIS PAKISTAN MAN IS UNDER DRUGS. SO HE NEEDED TO SEE BLOOD.
COWARDS ARE IN ACTION.................AT LEAST ..PEOPLE MUST UNDERSTAND IT NOW WHO SUPPORTS THEM. THESE ARE THE REAL COWARDS .(NOSE CUTTERS)
EPHESIANS CHAPTER 4................
EPHESIANS 6: 13..........18
The spirit of Mohammad has only brought hatred and madness among the Muslim people. There is no love and forgiveness or mercy for the people who have gone astray, just cruel and unjust punishment. Anyone who has accepted Jesus as their personal Savior and has received the Holy Spirit could not do such things and if they would break any of God's commandments they would feel very guilty and remorseful not happy as your friends are because they feel they have the right to kill those who do not follow their strict Islamic laws! WELL I GOT NEWS FOR THEM THEY ARE NOT FORGIVEN UNLESS THEY REPENT AND COME TO THE LORD JESUS AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS!
vERY WELL ANSWERED DAN.
Death To ALL WHO DUPPORT THIS. the secular forces of humanity , science, and technology will crush your pathetic religious rhetoric and ideology
VIOLENCE AND HATRED CAME FROM THE DEAD BODY FOLLOWERS FALSE CHRISTIANS. FOLLOWERS OF DEATH.
VIOLENCE CAME FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAS RELIGIOUS LAWS IN THEIR HEARTS BUT NO LOVE 😦
So are you telling me that Jesus would be proud of these men killing unarmed men defending their country from killers like these?
Jesus would be no proud of US war as well.
This is the result of the war. Violence will bring other violence like in Iraq for many years.
No violence is in these men hearts and souls. You hear that from the Pakistani that the killing of these innocent people makes him happy. This people are possessed by demons! They surely will end up with the beast and the false prophet, Mohammad in the lake of fire and burning brimstone along with all who believe that this kind of behavior is sanctified!
Idiot- they are created by the US war not by Mohammed. You created and supported terrorism. It is an inside job.
Yacobi – Nice to see your comments again. I hope you are fine. The story repeats itself . I am sad for all this violence and hope for a truce.
So man should be happy about killing unarmed men picking up pay they worked hard for in securing their country from killers like these?
listen dan dont drag our beloved Prophet Muhammed peace be upon him in this ... these people are evil Islam doesnt allow this islam says killing an innocent peson like killing the whole world so these people are set up by others ...
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