October 7th, 2010
08:24 AM ET

Your view: Talking with the Taliban

Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Thursday launched a council to help negotiate with the Taliban and find a way for peace. Karzai told the group, made up of about 68 Afghan clerics and elders, that it can help establish peace in Afghanistan.

The peace council meeting is one of several addressing the war in recent days. Political figures from Pakistan and Afghanistan were also sitting down this week in Kabul for a dialogue aimed at ending the nine-year-old Afghan war, in what one Afghan official called a "new phase" in building bridges and making peace with the Taliban.

But a Taliban spokesman told CNN that the group was not interested in peace talks. Zabiuhullah Mujahed, the spokesman, said they had no representative in the alleged negotiations in Kabul. Peace negotiations would not happen until the Afghan government met the Taliban's precondition to withdraw foreign forces in the country, the spokesman said.

What do you think? Is negotiating with the Taliban a good idea? Can a peace ever be met with the Taliban? Can lower level Taliban leaders be brought into the political and social fabric of Afghanistan?

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  1. dindy Sri lanka

    LARRY.G............ USA ATTACKED AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN BORDERS TO DESTROY THE HIDE OUT OF ALQEDA . THEY ARE STILL THERE.BECAUSE NOT EVEN THE PAKISTAN CAN CONTROL THESE ALQUEDA. IT IS OK TO HELP AFGHANISTAN AND LET THEM HAVE MORE FREEDOM LIKE REST OF THE HUMAN BEINGS. ACCORDING TO WHAT WE SEE ON CNN ALQUEDA STILL ATTACK THEIR OWN TOO. WHAT IS THE SOLUTION FOR THAT? FROM WHERE CAN US DO OPERATIONS AGAINST THE BORDERS OF PAKISTAN WHERE TERRORISTS LIVE IF US LEAVE AFGHANISTAN.
    I KNOW IT IS VERY PAINFUL TO SEE MILITARY PERSONS DIE AT YOUNG AGE ON THE OTHER HAND. ALSO NINE YEARS HAVE BEEN PASSED 🙁 WITHOUT A PROPER SOLUTION. IT IS OK TO LEAVE IF US CAN REASSURE ABOUT THE SECURITY IN HOME LAND AND HELP AFGHANISTAN FROM THERE. YET..WE HAVE A QUESTION REMAINING. WHERE IS THIS BIG COWERED WHO HIDES UNDER GROUND ?THAT SOME ONE WHO WAS GOING ON A DONKEY AND KILLED OTHERS FOR SPORT.WHY ALL THE MUSLIMS WONT ACCEPT THAT TRUTH.?

    October 8, 2010 at 3:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Is this you speaking, or another ? Because I get confused at your postings

      October 8, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Of course it's him, he apparently has multiple personalities, I can't follow him either.

        October 9, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      QUIT YOUR YELLING PLEASE!!! IT DOESN"T MAKE IT SO...

      October 9, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  2. Banana277

    Germany is German, let the Germans rule. France is French, let the French rule. Russia is Russian, let the Russians rule. China is Chinese, let the Chinese rule. Afghanistan is Afghan, let them continue to fight amongst themselves for rule, as they have done for centuries, and quit wasting money into their country when it is cheaper to allow the good people the chance to move out into a civilized world where they can be productive..

    October 8, 2010 at 3:09 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Good posting,Banana277. Thank you.

      October 8, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Bananna 227, don't listen to Dan in Lafayette,IN, it's only a matter of time before he starts complaining your name is offensive to Banna trees and the monkeys who love them. He might even claim a copyright infringement on Bananna republic.

        October 9, 2010 at 3:56 am | Report abuse |
    • southernjent

      I don't thik I could have said it in better. Right to the point and logical. We don't need to "Beat around the bush"

      October 16, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
  3. dindy Sri lanka

    LARRY USA ATTACKED AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN BORERS ANYWAY TO DESTROY THE HIDE OUT OF ALQEDA

    October 8, 2010 at 1:59 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Are you YOU talking, or are you another ? If you're you, you're crazy, as I heard Your good moderate views before, and answered to them.

      October 8, 2010 at 10:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      Which Larry are You talking too??? There are to many of us here!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  4. dindy Sri lanka

    LARRY GOLDSTEIN MAY BE CORRECT.

    October 8, 2010 at 1:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      OK. Then use your name,when it's YOU speaking, so I'll understand, who I'm talking to, and not all those imitators

      October 8, 2010 at 10:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        What do You think This is!!! I changed it from the other Because of Him!!!

        October 11, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  5. dindy Sri lanka

    LARRY VALECIA ..DO NOT GET UPSET WITH ME FOR WHAT I DID NOT WRITE 🙂

    October 8, 2010 at 1:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Who are you, and what name is answering for you ? Change name, to get your real message through. Even better, use your real name, as I do

      October 8, 2010 at 9:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      That is not Larry From Valencia!!! Because I don't use it any more because of that Idiot!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        Larry kegal (us army) Thank you for introducing your new name.

        October 12, 2010 at 5:24 am | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        Dindy don't be fooled, read the content of the message after you read who posted it and judge for yourself who is trying to trick you.

        October 13, 2010 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Larry Goldstein

    I was in Afghanistan in the 70s, when it was under a democratic rule of Dawud Khan(and the women very successful and independent but with our blessing Mr. Bhutto was training terrorits to reverse the trend of modernization in Afghanistan)
    At lesson from the past 30 years is, Pakistan does not want peace in AFGHANISTAN, it wants Afghanistan to be a playground so Army/ISI can make money from war on Afghan Plus it get chances to destroy Afghanistan infrastructure...Remember not one Afghan has every attacked the west nor was any Afghan involved in 9-11. Pakistanis and Arabs were but we Attacked Afghanistan...We must Guarantee non-interference in Afghanistan and pressure Pakistan to respect the sovereignty of Afghanistan, and a commitment to peace is needed from all region players...Plus we must guarantee the Afghans we will not stay in Afghanistan(in those 75+ plus bases we setup) for the sake of Afghans who have suffered and sacrificed 3 million lives for a sovereign Afghanistan...after peace and security arrives in Afghanistan we can rebuild the trust by sincerely building Afghanistan...Afghan and American friendship should start from this commitment to peace, the people of Afghanistan are not backstabber like Pakistan- When you become a friend of Afghans- they will risk their lives for you, to protect you from threats.

    October 8, 2010 at 1:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Thanks for the personal insight you give. I feel the same. It's Pakistan, that's the real problem, but if we're not in Afghanistan, the Al-Queda/ISI, will be there, not openly working in Pakistan. So, after what you experienced, there's only a two-pronge effort possible, and that's to stay in Afghanistan, and further the combat in Pakistan, while they have no power to go back to Afghanistan

      October 8, 2010 at 9:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Goldstein

        Mr. Schmidt,

        Pakistan has always been the issue, but I do not think we need military bases to confront the threat in Pakistan...We can use India and People within Pakistan, remember within Pakistan there are movements against the state/military establishment, we may hear of Balochistan only...but other minorities are sick of the majority Punjabi rule of Pakistan. They are willing to provide us necessary information to take our the terrorists sponsored by the Army and ISI...We know very well the enemies of American and Afghans do not have food, weapons and logistics falling from the sky. Mr. Schmidt, I suggest you take a trip to Afghanistan when peace arrives, you will be amazed by its people..the hope, honor, and the way they live with nothing will give you an understanding why these people are warriors who defend only their land...(unfortunatley, a few have been manipulated by ideologies from communisn to wahhabism effectively become proxies of those who want to destroy Afghanistan.)

        October 9, 2010 at 12:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Thank you for your new report. It's nice to hear somebody here, giving serious remarks. I don't know about the insight, into secret info's about the situation in Pakistan, but if so, that´s good news. Whatever is the best way, the Pakistani issue, must be takled soon, as we're dying down here, because we have no authority to hit back over the boarder.This is becoming more of a game, like in the westerns,where the bad guys always escaped, by crossing the Rio Grande. It's exactly the same here. No, I've not been in Afghanistan, in peacetime,and noone can remember,when there were peace here. But I am, in Afghanistan, and if it has not been for the war, the people are hospitable, and very happy for the slightest help, we can give. But as they get murdered every day, not by outsiders, but by Taleban, of course, they're also a people, living in fear for the next bombing, or beheading,by the Taleban

      October 9, 2010 at 9:01 am | Report abuse |
  7. publius enigma

    Talking to your enemy doesnt always help, but not talking never does.

    October 8, 2010 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
    • The Prophet Mohammed

      Although I do like your point of wisdom, it's simply not going to work AT THIS TIME with the Taliban, maybe later, but not yet.

      October 9, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  8. opinionguru

    ...saw enough of them as they ran away from us in "The Mother of All Battles". Talk to them with more ordinance and bio-weapons. Remove them from the planet.

    October 8, 2010 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Were you really there, or are you just another of the "talkers", who are so common here ?

      October 8, 2010 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
  9. dindy Sri lanka

    NO NEED TO WEAR SUICIDE BOMBING UNIFORMS . NO NEED TO PLAN MORE CRIMINAL ACTS. JESUS PAID A VERY HIGH PRICE FOR ALL OF US AT ONCE. PLEASE ..REPENT....LAY DOWN ARMS. LET PEOPLE BREATH FRESH AIR WHICH IS GIVEN FREE BY GOD. YOU PEOPLE DONT HAVE TO BE JUDGES WITH SUICIDE UNIFORMS BECAUSE THE REAL JUDGE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS UNIVERSE SEEING EVERY BODY"S ACT. LET THE SUPREME JUDGE WHO IS ABOVE ALL OF US TO MAKE HIS DECISIONS. PLEASE LAY DOWN ARMS AND STOP ATTACK INNOCENT PEOPLE NO MATTER WHERE THEY COME FROM.

    October 8, 2010 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
    • opinionguru

      we can hope

      October 8, 2010 at 12:16 am | Report abuse |
    • The Prophet Mohammed

      First, you're Anti-American, then a Taliban Supporter, then a hippie, now a Jesus Freak- Make up your damn mind Paki.

      October 8, 2010 at 5:04 am | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        Quit calling me a Paki,Phunnie boy! How would you like if I called you an ignoramous? I'm none of those things you called me and by the way,stop usurping the Prophet Mohammed's name for crying out loud!!!

        October 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Yes. Nobody are wearing their true names, including you. I am. That´s my true name, and I stick to it

        October 8, 2010 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Doofus Sri Lanka (or Dan in Lafayette- whichever you prefer). Mohammad IS MY NAME, and I'm speaking a hell of a lot more truth here than you are so the Prophet seems appropraite enough. You should really get that split personality checked out.

        October 9, 2010 at 8:18 am | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        What more can You expect from a Idiot???

        October 9, 2010 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        Larry I did not post at 7.37pm October 2010 . This is the exact way of devil. Stealing, making every one angry with each other, also lying.. and pretending that he knows everything and pretending so holy but he is not. (this is a spiritual war fare after all. )

        October 11, 2010 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      THAT IS YOUR BELIEF NOT MINE ARE MUSLIN< HINDU ARE BUDDHA!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Are you rally from Sri Lanka ? Christians are not so abundant there, neither on the Tiger-side, or the government-side

      October 11, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Pretty Strange, doesn't make sense, somebody playing name games or trying to set it up? There's a phrase in there I use.

        October 12, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  10. George

    NO. The Taliban can never mix with civilized people. They should be given their own piece of the country where they can live in the dark ages for eternity. Leave them alone. Increase intelligence on them and if they set up training camps to export terror, then send in the Tomahawk cruise missiles.

    October 7, 2010 at 10:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Not a bad idea. Maybe that could solve problems,to let the taliban have their own playground, and then we'll also exactly know where they are. Not a bad idea at all, but wonder if the Taleban would agree

      October 11, 2010 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  11. dad

    Fuuuuuuuuuck!

    October 7, 2010 at 8:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      Please Don't Swear!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Joseph McCarthy

      Hey dad or whoever you are,will you kindly cut the Tea Party lingo??? Leave that for the right-wing,anti-intellectual,ignorant Tea Partiers!!!

      October 13, 2010 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
  12. Wais

    you guys are all so fuxking stupid. this is deep. its complicated. the taliban will not talk because it means for them to give up. they will fight until they all die or all of NATO troops die. they are like the samurai. they follow a strict form of pre islamic laws. islam is the religion but not the ideology. the media does a good job at saying islam is what they base their beliefs on.
    BS! this will only get worse before it gets better. And you guys stop acting like you know about islam or taliban because you dont. this is a issue that afghans have to deal with.

    October 7, 2010 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • dindy Sri lanka

      WAIS THANK YOU FOR TRYING TO MAKE US UNDERSTAND. BUT I CANT SEE THAT THE AFGHAN CAN HANDLE IT BY THEM SELVES. ON THE OTHER HAND IT HAS TAKEN LONG TIME NOW AND TALIBAN HAS NOT GIVEN UP. THEY HAVE REPEATED THEIR OLD WAYS . THEY LIKE TO BE THE PRISONERS IN THE PROMISED LAND . NO BLESSINGS.BUT LACK OF EVERYTHING INSTEAD OF OPIUM AND GUNS. MAY LORD SPEAK TO THEM PERSONALLY BECAUSE WE CANT TALK UNLESS THEY LAY DOWN ARMS.

      October 8, 2010 at 12:19 am | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        QUIT YOUR YELLING!!!

        October 9, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  13. ikram

    beg pakistan, kiss the feet of pakistan

    “We extend our deepest apology to Pakistan and the families of the Frontier Scouts who were killed and injured,” the ambassador said in the statement.

    “Pakistan’s brave security forces are our allies in a war that threatens both Pakistan and the US.” Pakistan has condemned air strikes on its territory as a violation of sovereignty.

    It said it suspended Nato supply trucks crossing into Afghanistan via the Khyber region because of “security reasons”.

    October 7, 2010 at 6:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rajput

      How much does Pakistan want now...I hear we are giving you Pakis 7+ billion per year...Pakis are extortionists...

      October 8, 2010 at 1:08 am | Report abuse |
  14. ikram

    “We extend our deepest apology to Pakistan and the families of the Frontier Scouts who were killed and injured,” the ambassador said in the statement.

    “Pakistan’s brave security forces are our allies in a war that threatens both Pakistan and the US.” Pakistan has condemned air strikes on its territory as a violation of sovereignty.

    It said it suspended Nato supply trucks crossing into Afghanistan via the Khyber region because of “security reasons”.

    October 7, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      What is your comment ? Are you just referring or are you commenting ? I really understand the killings at the border, as they were shooting, from Pakistan, into Afghanistan, and that was only what the helicopters went at. Those shooting at them, and if that included 3 Pakistanis, what so ? The excuse was made as this, from Pakistani side, that the 3 Pakistanis, probably was firing warning shots, before they got killed. What a craze. Can you explain that ?

      October 8, 2010 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Virani

    Nine years , I think it's never end war, I think because I am pakistani immigrante and I am more american. I think pakistani leader and afghan leader they are big lier, and they wants just american dollar for ther swiss account, and they want war not just nine years they want america keep fighting for another 9years. Now america should fight not attack but defence. we should sorround by pakistan and afghanistan and war should be defensive. this people are illitrate and they don't know what they fighting for , because of illetrate.

    October 7, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      If i understand you right, even though, you're a Pakistani/American, you also think, that the heart of the conflict, is in Pakistan. Then I agree with you

      October 8, 2010 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
  16. biggeorge22

    If it gets us out of there let them talk until they turn Blue! I would never let my child serve in this military because of this government. I support my troops 110%, but not my government. That's a Father's Boy, Daughter, Son, Cousin. This war started by Republican's (Of Course) is wrong just like Iraq.

    October 7, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      May be. Who knows ?

      October 8, 2010 at 8:56 pm | Report abuse |
  17. MDJ

    Alfred:
    I don't disagree with anything you've suggested. The current military strategy is a bright and shining lie. Incorporating the Afghan people into our military efforts is a laudible goal but the mere presence of our soldiers sends a different message and the resentment of the Afghan people towards the non-combatants killed in this conflict, however unfairly, is blamed on our soldiers. If we don't reduce or presence soon, it will be our legacy with all the Afghan people.

    October 7, 2010 at 5:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Why is it, that the every day killings, of innocent civilians, by the Taliban, is not counting in your statistics. When we're killing innocents, it's not by purpose, but by accident, while the Taleban , are killing everybody, and by most civilians. Very few military personnel. Because they, beside bombs, have no courage to fight, as they loose all the battles, fought with firearms. Trust me, I know. So stop that squabbling.

      October 8, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Alfred

    As the Russians and British have learned before us, winning a war in that country is impossible. We have been at war for nearly ten years straight and we suffer from the stupidity of the previous administrations policies that wasted so much blood and treasure in a useless war in Iraq. The current administration should not have caved to the military's hubris. The war in Afghanistan should never have been escalated as surely by now we have learned from Iraq that when you increase your presence you simply increase the opportunity for the enemy to wreak havoc. That is what we are seeing now, Iraq all over again. We need to get our regular troops out of there now. Replace them with a ton of drones, and a small bunch of Navy Seals or Green berets to hunt down the Al Quaida heavies in Warizistan in covert operations and as many Taliban chiefs as possible to force the Taliban to the negotiating table. Figure out a truce then let the Afghans take over. We would probably need to keep our covert guys in there for the next five years but that is much better that the cost of supporting 100,000 troops. Let's bring our guys home and spend our money on nation building here instead of wasting it in Afghanistan

    October 7, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      We´re not trying to win a war, OVER the Afghans. We're trying, for our own sake, but also for the ordinary Afghan person, to free them for the terrorists, ruining their daily lives, not f.ex. allowing girls to be educated. The ordinary Afghan, don't like to live like this, and at the same time, it's best for us, as they don't want to harbor Al-Queda also. So instead of trying to conquer the Afghan people, we're trying to give them, the better life life, they want and deserve. In peace, finally, after all these years of wars. At the same time, it helps us, that the Al-Queda, are no more in Afghanistan, but in Pakistan instead. So, that's the next target, to get rid of safe-havens, for international terrorists.

      October 8, 2010 at 8:47 pm | Report abuse |
  19. gregretired

    Larry valecia:

    You are wrong. We WERE there prior to 9-11. Read up on our 1980's involvement in Afghanistan in "Charlie Wilson's War"
    Even Dan Rather was filmed showing our helping the Mujahadeen defeat the Soviets. We then abonded them so they don't trust us now. Who could blame them.

    October 7, 2010 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      You're right. Policies are changing left or right. Same in Iraq, where we formerly supported them, against Iran, and afterwards invaded them. I understand you. It's all crazy. But right now, don't let's look at the messy past, but at the messy future, as Pakistan, is making a safe haven, for the Al-Queda terrorists, attacting all over the world. We tried to get rid of them, when they were in Afghanistan before, but when we got there, they got afraid, and escaped into Pakistan, who're giving them asylum now. So what´s our next target, to get rid of these guys ? Is it Pakistan ?

      October 8, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      That is not me talking there!!! So Please don't use Me for Your answer!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
  20. MDJ

    Less than 400 Special Forces, Navy Seals and CIA employees, working with a coalition of war lords (and with the aid of US air power) ran the Taliban out of Afghanistan in a few months beginning in late 2001. That was our goal and it was accomplished quickly and relatively cheaply. We can always go back if the country becomes a haven for Islamic terrorists again. Hey, nobody invited us the first time. Our mistake was staying with the goal of dragging Afghanistan from the 18th century into the 21st century and ultimately leaving behind a stable developed country. That was a totally unrealistic bill of goods sold to the American public in the name of patriotism by the Bush Administration, the Pentagon and the lords of the defense industry. Since then we've accomplished nothing, not even holding the territory we initially seized from Taliban control, despite sacrificing more than a thousand soldiers lives and spending billions. We should leave now and we can’t do that as a practical matter without a truce. Both sides have to agree to a truce so the Taliban has to be included.

    October 7, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Well, if you have THAT knowledge, of the achievements of the special forces, Seals and everything, I'll give you a point of right. Us, ordinary people, don't know all these secret movements, but then I really don't know, why they decided to go into full-scale war, knowing the same as you. There must have been a reason. Maybe you could tell me that secret also ?

      October 8, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Semper Fi don't hide

    The meeting should be a Drone target.

    October 7, 2010 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Who are you ? Not a real marine. How come you use our insignia for your own disgraceful purpose. DON'T USE OUR INSIGNIA, IF YOU'RE NOT ONE OF US. PERIOD.

      October 8, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Logic

    You cannot negociate with a society who believes it is better ti die then to live, Somewhere in the revolutionary process these people took a wrong turn and now the world has to suffer. Until Pakistan is flat knocked down by the rest of humanity, terrorists will be free to cause death and destruction.

    October 7, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Pham Anh

    Gentlemen !
    U.S can not affort to continue to wast our national resources without clearcut result in Afghanistan after 9 years of war.
    Let Hamid Karzai and his people handle by themself.
    So many unemployment at home need help first. Get out of there please !

    October 7, 2010 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

      That's for Americans to decide, not you.

      October 7, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        Why don't you already stop using my old name??? You afraid People might take You serious if you use your own???

        October 9, 2010 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • tet1953`

      Well, I am an American, and I say get out now. What makes you so sure Pham Anh is not also an American? It's just an internet nickname fpr Pete's sake.

      October 7, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • George

      Fact of business: If you think we have a lot of unemployed now, just bring the troops home and see how many we have.

      October 7, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Awesome! Thank you! Let's not also forget if you want peace- prepare for war. America forgot that before 9/11, let's not forget again!

        October 8, 2010 at 5:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Of course he's a true American also. His name is vietnamese, and we have so many good immigrants from there, who make no trouble, but just work.Don't look down at good people. He's point is right. Domestic issues, like unemployment, is more important, than to wage wars overseas, for billions of dollars a day, maybe enough to save our troubled economy, in itself. Not withstanding, the problems, of attacking Al-Queda, at their bases. But give it a break. We all need money, for a better interior spending, on jobs and support to the needy, and if that's accomplished, by saving a lot of grenades, Pham Anh, has my greatest respect and agreement. Peace IS better, and more economical, than war

      October 8, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        If we are not prepared for war and rough men stand ready to do violence on your behlaf, then you can have no peace, it's simple mathematics.

        October 9, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Tom

    The only way out is a rational dialogue, and that is hard to do when dealing with people who refuse to listen to reason, and live in a world of religious mysticism. That said, if the terrorists ever want to give peace a try, and make an attempt to negotiate something, they'll need to stop the killing, and figure out a way to deal with the fact that not everyone is going to follow their religion. If that is impossible, then there is no point in entertaining the idea of a rational dialogue.

    October 7, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • George

      Well, you got me convinced.

      October 7, 2010 at 10:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Please go sleep with your degrees, and don't comment again, before you're sober, as it's tiring to read

      October 8, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • BILL

      Terrorisme is occpying land that is not yours with tanks andsoldiers with no one to watch over them to make sure atrocities are not committed....

      October 16, 2010 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  25. citizenUSA

    So is Karzai looking for peace in Afghanistan only? What about the Talibutts in Pakistan? They're not going to honor any agreement. It seems to be a well know fact that the Talibutts want to impose their beliefs on all Muslims and are willing to kill for it. What kind of deal can Karzai make? The Talibutts helped/helps Al Qaeda although I don't hear too much about their cohorting anymore.

    October 7, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      You're right. there's no peace in Karzai negotiating for Afghanistan, as the problem really is in Pakistan, so no peace, whatsover, in Afghanistan, before Pakistan is eradicated, or at least it's leaders. A flood didn't, manage it. Gods wrath? But the rats survived as usual, and keep burning the flags of those countries, who actually helped them, with billions of dollars. Those you call your enemies, while the so-called Muslim-countries, didn't support a bit, including the Pakistani government itselt.How can muslims be so brain-washed, towards who's good, or who's bad ? It beats me !!

      October 8, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
  26. tet1953`

    Karzai's negotiating with the Taliban and making secret deals is an insult to the U.S. and NATO forces that are are out there dying for Afghanistan. We should leave now. Keep an eye on things from the sky and with intel, and bomb the hell out of confirmed targets or training camps, but there is no need to stay any longer.
    Assuming the above is not going to happen, then Pakistan needs to decide whose side they are on. If they continue to give aid and comfort to the enemy by closing important crossings etc, then they too are the enemy and should be treated as such. I'd rather we just leave.

    October 7, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  27. jminor

    i agree that we should try to talk with the taliban because their not going to stop unless some kind of agreement is made or everyone in afganistan is dead

    October 7, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • The Prophet Mohammed

      They are Thieves and Liars, talking to them is only a waste of time.

      October 8, 2010 at 4:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Hey you,will you kindly quit dishonoring the Prophet Mohammed by blogging your right-wing nonsense under his name? This is getting to be sacrilgious,especially to the Muslims.

        October 8, 2010 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Dan, No I will not, that was kind of the point of using this name. (though I will give you credit you are the first one to comment). Your Treasonous posts and sympathy towards the enemy (Taliban, Pakistan-despite thier claims to be "Allies") are kind of offensive to the Americans, the Soldiers and generally "peace loving" people. Really, I don't care what the Muslin world thinks and I especially don't care what Dan thinks. They can go back to living in caves and you should be deported.

        October 8, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Hey you above,such is to be expected from a person like you with your obvious limitations,Phunnie boy!!!

        October 8, 2010 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Couldn't you really be applying under your REAL names, as this discussion, is getting very strange. Please ? That can't be that hard, that even using your real names, nobody actually know you personally, but it's annoying to respond to folks, using other persons' "names"

        October 8, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        France, as gay as I once thought they were, actually has some b@lls; they have made it illegal to wear the Burqua or otherwise cover the face, they are not worried about offending Muslins, the rest of the world and America in particular should pay attention. Quit worrying about whose feelings you are going to hurt when it's for the greater good. Dan, I called immigration and they are on thier way to deport you.

        October 8, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Mohammed is my name.

        October 9, 2010 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Dan I don't see too many limitations, after all I'm not the one who is upset. It just seems to be you, your friend and co-taliban supporter Doofus Sri Lanka and Torben wanting names, should I give you my mother's maiden name, adrress and driver's license number as well? Wouldn't that be nice.

        October 9, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        No Prohet,just keep the name you're writing under. We know you're you. But the guy from Sri Lanka is annoying, when he call the other guy,using his name, for a goat, when it's actually the one he call goat, who gives the reasonable comments. So better the "goat sayer" stopped using that name,so we'll know which opinions we're dealing with,from each person.Like Jacobi f.ex. He's a crackpot,and we know his 360 degrees pot-talk, so peace be with him,but you two Sri Lankans shouldn't be fighting for a name

        October 11, 2010 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Jerry

        Torben and Prophet. The one using other peoples names used to call himself Daniel-2 he uses everyones names sooner or later. I wont be using this one (mine) again he took that too, he thinks it is humorous.

        October 11, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Retired Top Gun

    Yes the Afghans should negitiate with the Taliban. NO, there will never be peace with the Taliban until they are in charge again. Yes lowere level Taliban can be brought into the mainstream if they have jobs and are included in daily governing.

    October 7, 2010 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • dindy Sri lanka

      We need to reconcile the Taliban with the Karzai government and get out of Afghanistan altogerther since we have no business there in the first place.We have absolutely no right to decide Afghanistan's future!

      October 7, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Get your facts straight:
        Afghanistan asked America to help them get rid of the Taliban. Women were not even allowed to go to the market without thier husbands or eldest son. Women were frequently executed in Public. 500 people were killed in Kabul over tribal fighting one week before America invaded. Music was banned (all forms) under the Taliban, Schools were closed (except for Taliban controlled Mosques) Only 11% of the population could read. Afghanistan asked America for help so they COULD HAVE A FUTURE.

        October 7, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

        By your illogic, dindy Sri Lanka, the Paki Taliban has no right messing with Afghanistan either.

        Down with Tamil Tiger Terrorists!

        October 7, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        I DID NOT WRITE AT 1.07 PM. WHY THESE GOATS ARE BEHIND ME. ? WRITE UNDER YOU OWN ID .

        October 8, 2010 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        We´re just there, to let the mainstream of the population, to decide for themselves, if they want a medieval killing regime, to govern them, or if they want a life, without daily, public executions, but like to live their life, on their own, not being afraid to send their children to school, whether it's a boy or a girl. I suppose, if your name is correct, you come from Sri Lanka, with a lot of war. Isn't peace better than war AND oppression. The tamils are not oppressed anymore, so it's time to end the war against oppression. Same in Afghanistan

        October 8, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        I did not post on 7th at 1.07pm. who is stealing here others ID 🙁

        October 11, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
  29. TM

    If we can resolve the issue with negotiations and save our love one's lives in war,there is no match to it.We should spread the word of peace in the world instead of war..........we being super power should also show some patience and try to resolve the regional issues to culminate the peace and prosperity in universe.We the Americans should behave like power of cohesion not power of fear.We have to show that we are with the world in dismantlement of hatred and evil.I along with all other peaceful forces believe that war has not resolved any issue in the world and would never settle any problem in future unless we destroy the whole nation from earth...............So my humble opinion is let the peace prevail through dialogs if it happens believe me we would be out of our dismal economic conditions.So please don't sabotage the peace process.....................God bless all of us.

    October 7, 2010 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
  30. George Patton

    I wish to High Heaven that all these right-wing,war loving idiots would just shut up!!! I've seen what damage war can do and these right-wing nutjobs here make me sick with their "shoot'em up" mumbo-jumbo!!!

    October 7, 2010 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Genghis Khan

      Mind your own business you hippy waste of skin.

      October 7, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • George Patton

      "May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't.”

      October 7, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        I wish that you,Phunnie and Genghis Khan would quit trying to dishonor Gen.Patton by trying to be funny. After all,he command the 3rd Army during WW2 not you!!!

        October 8, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • George Patton

        Whatever name you post under people know you by this name and it is putz.

        October 8, 2010 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Dan you keep knocking everyone for thier names, I'm quite sure the muslims are offended someone is using Gerge Patton's name. I bet if I post under "Scooby Doo" You'd be offended. Frankly I'm offended there is a sissy in Lafayette posting BS on cnn. Tell you what, I'll put my real name when you post your address so one of us can stop by an whip your Taliban Puppet @ss.

        October 9, 2010 at 12:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Julius Caeser

      If you want security for Afghanistan and America, Taliban must be annilhilated, our soldiers haven't bled in Afghanistan for 9 years just to see the Taliban enter the government. no No NO!!

      October 11, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  31. dindy Sri lanka

    It is very shocking to hear that they kill for their belief. Please take it serious. Do not give aid to the countries where they give ground for the terrorists to do their training. Protect the Air space and the boarders of USA with that money. Let them understand that no one can live while getting angry with rest of the beliefs or with the world. If they want to have discussions with any group tell Taliban or Alqeda to lay down their arms first before they come for peace talk. Also if the peace accord works build more schools in Afghanistan and help them to have a Bullets and stones free life. I wish these children and women in Afghanistan will able to live a peaceful life soon . God will reveal the truth in his time to every one and let the God handle these difference with religions. stop killing for sake of belief. Murderers wont go to heaven according to new testimony. We all must contribute to make peace on earth first even to hear the peace talks. May God help all the human beings to end wars like the way he give sun and rain to all despite of their belief. May God help all of us to understand him better and praise him in spirit !!! and at the end we all be with him in heaven despite of color or race.

    October 7, 2010 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
    • mcmurdo proud military fiance

      very well done, I agree,

      October 7, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        I didn't post the above,mcmurdo. Somebody's trying to make me look dumb.

        October 7, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        dindy Sri lanka
        Quote: "I didn't post the above,mcmurdo. Somebody's trying to make me look dumb."
        From what I have read of most of your posts you don't need the help.

        October 7, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        MCMURDO PROUD MILLITARY FIANCE THIS IS ME DINDY FROM SRI LANKA AND I DID WRITE THE COMMENT AT 11.37AM OCTOMBER 7TH 2010 AND NOT HE ONE AT 1.04PM . A GOAT HAS WRITTEN THIS AT 1.04 PM

        October 7, 2010 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Frankly Speaking..

      "If they want to have discussions with any group tell Taliban or Alqeda to lay down their arms first before they come for peace talk. "

      Can say the same about our army, eh ?

      October 8, 2010 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Frankly Speaking..

      even if it aint you, its someone as stupid as you..so shouldnt make a diiference, chill

      October 8, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Thank you, for your deep human understanding. Your way is the right, and positive, way. No other good way for us all, muslim or not

      October 8, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
  32. S R Wakankar

    The real problem is Pakistan's almost religious devotion to the obsolete ideology of medieval anti-Indian Arab/Muslim Imperialism, the bedrock of its formation.Unless Pakistan changes and abandons this evil ideology,things cannot improve.Pakistan is Muslim Imperialism incarnate.It is an artificial nation.It thinks itself to be the representative of the whole Muslim World.It calls its nuclear weapon "Islamic Bomb".It is a threat to the world.
    Pakistan must change like Bangladesh;B'desh renounced the very word "Pakistan" which carries no meaning at all and is an absurdity.Why does not it become "Muslim India" when it is 101% India?All terrorism is Pakistan creation.Osama cannot exist in Hindukushmountains without Pakistan's tacit support to his dangerous agenda ie global jihad.

    October 7, 2010 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
    • Frankly Speaking..

      Typical hindu who does not understand the differnce between water and cow p33...Stop drinkin that filth coz when trash goes in, only trash comes out. There is a subtle difference between you and muslims, while they use evidence to assert their hypothesis you flare insults coz thats all you got.

      October 8, 2010 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Jack

        What is better....Camel P$$$ that Mohd drank or Cow P$$$?

        October 8, 2010 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Idiot!! What kind of argument is that. Maybe you're a pig instead of a cow, and drink liquor as a muslim, instead of water ? Cheers

        October 8, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jack

      Why do the Pakis get irritated when the truth is out in the open. Pakistan is infact a lap dog of the US. US funds the Pakistan. Pakistan funds ISI. ISI funds the Taliban and Taliban is bent on detroying the US. The cycle continues. As long as there is Islam, there will be Jihad and the slaying of the infidels.

      October 8, 2010 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        You're quite right. This is the heart point of the Afghan conflict. Nothing more. Solve any problem at the roots, to get it really solved, so we finally can live in more peace, than before.

        October 8, 2010 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        Unfortunately Pakistan is playing both sides and flip flopping to the highest bidder on a whim, plus they are scared of the Taliban who live among them. Many Afghanis fled to Pakistan in the time of the Taliban. The Taliban are from the Pashtun and that huge tribe borders (if you call it a border, more like a guideline) on Pakistan.
        It's very hard to make any real solid deals or alliances with these people becuase they lie, cheat and steal as a way of life; corruption is deeply ingrained from thousands of years and it's not at all the same to them as it is in the west. Over here, being a good liar wasn't just a way to get ahead in life, it was for SURVIVAL. If you have never been here it may be hard to fully understand but being quick on your wits more often than not meant the difference between life and death, the same goes for corruption. When someone is arrested by NATO forces and turned over to the Afghanis, it is often a race between the judge, lawyer, police and guards to see who collects the bribe money to release the person, this has been going on for thousands of years so it's not something NATO is going to be able to fix in a decade or so. Everything here changes hands, money, information, lives and somebody is always getting a cut. It was the only way a culture could survive in such a hostile and harsh conditions, both socially and physically (as in farming, water, etc.)

        October 9, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • HinduJ

        Dear Hindu Brother,

        Please don't hate Muslims so much.

        October 14, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
    • Torben Schmidt

      Like spoken straight from my heart. And you have personal insight, given from your name. Thanks for telling the actual truth, that so many are afraid of speaking. I don't know why, people are afraid of the truth, but thanks, You formulate it much better than me

      October 8, 2010 at 7:05 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Riza Afghan

    John in Manhattan, i will nuke/nude your mama you stupid f00k.
    Learn how to talk stupid f00k.

    October 7, 2010 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • The Prophet Mohammed

      Learn English.

      October 9, 2010 at 1:22 am | Report abuse |
      • UdnihJ

        Dear Hindu Brother,

        I will learn English and take up a BPO jobin India that got outsourced from America to India and I will have the media blame China for that.

        October 14, 2010 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
      • UdnihJ

        Dear Hindu Brother,

        I will learn English and take up a BPO job in India that got outsourced from America to India and I will have the media blame China for that.

        October 14, 2010 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  34. John in Manhattan

    NO one should be negotiating with these animals. Kill women and children just for trying to better themselves. I say nuke the whole area. Semper Fi, do or die!!!!!!!

    October 7, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • Riza Afghan

      John in Manhattan, i will nuke/nude your mama you stupid f00k.
      Learn how to talk stupid f00k...

      October 7, 2010 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        Riza ..jhon says to nuke the area of Taliban not the areas where the innocent people live. I hope Jhon will exolain it too.

        October 7, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      John in Manhatten,your comment is one of the most disgusting ones I've seen. Where did you learn how to hate like that???

      October 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Daniel-2

        He's obviously been reading the trash you post, that's where.

        October 7, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

        It couldn't be from where you learned to hate America, Dan, you seditious hippie.

        October 7, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        I learn a little more hatred every time I read a post form some idiot named Dan In Lafayette, IN.

        October 8, 2010 at 4:57 am | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        To the prophet Mohammed. Aside from the pure cowardice of not using your own name, I find fault with the real prophet Mohammed, who was responsible for more deaths during more conquests and genocides than any other group in history. The rely jane converted Syria, Northern Africa, Spain, Afghanistan, Pakistan and much of Indonesia to Islam at the point of a sword. Those who converted, were permitted to live. Those who didn't, died. They are currently involved in more than forty armed conflicts worldwide. This is not a religion of peace.

        October 8, 2010 at 8:16 am | Report abuse |
      • Daniel-2

        Don't feel bad,Larry. I see that Phunnie boy just usurped both our names again,trying to be funny as usual.

        October 8, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        To Bill the Brave:
        First of all, let me congratulate you on your bravery for using your real name "Bill" from the safety of your couch. Clearly you have not read my other posts, at no time have I said anything about peace loving Islam. You just assumed based upon my name. The point of this name is to irritate. If it was up to me I would nuke the whole lot of them, as far as them fighing the Shiite\Sunni war all over the world, fine by me, I just wish they would leave the rest of us out of it. The Prophet has spoken.

        October 8, 2010 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Hey you above,will you kindly stop dishonoring the Prophet Mohammed by posting your right-wing nonsense under his name? If you hate Islam so much,then say so under your own name for a change,Phunnie boy!!!

        October 8, 2010 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • SAnwar

        Dan in Lafayette, IN; Some times its not hatred, its just fools have to say something (all they ca contribute) , not like civilized people who say something things to contribute, consider them Desktop Boots.

        October 17, 2010 at 10:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • ladydi

      John in Manhatten – That will work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      October 8, 2010 at 7:54 am | Report abuse |
  35. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    The only way that you can talk to the Taliban is if they give up on their beliefs of a strict sixth century sharia laws that allows them to kill with impunity those who do not follow their same beliefs! Otherwise they must be killed for the atrocities they did in the 90's and are unwilling to repent!

    October 7, 2010 at 8:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      I wish that you'd use your own name when posting here. For the record,I strongly favor a negotiated settlement.

      October 7, 2010 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • mcmurdo proud military fiance

        Hi dan I agree with what you stated , yes they need to try and have a win win and at least they could say they tried to sit down and talk peace , we have to show good examples to these people ,

        October 7, 2010 at 12:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        I'm sure you do hippy.

        October 7, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

        For the record, you strongly support the Taliban winning. And that's why you're a seditious hippie.

        October 7, 2010 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim

        I'm sure some guy in prison is saying the same thing to Bubba right now, and Bubba's reply will be "make my day punk".

        October 8, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Gee Dee Jay

      I agree Dan, As for the U.S we need to get everyone out, military, aid, everything both out og Afghanistan and Pakistan. Then, sit back and wait to see what happens. If we need to go back in, say after a civil war erupts and theinnocent are still dying then go back in. Get out, basically it's waht these terrorists say we need to do before they stop suicide bombings, wait, see if they stop, then if not, total annhiliation, wipe them out.

      October 7, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

        We weren't in Afghanistan or Pakistan prior to 9/11. We sat back and saw what happened.

        October 7, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Torben Schmidt

    No way. Taleban will only stop, when allowed to take over power again, but ASP something should really be done with Pakistan. Flooding or no flooding, the rats still survive, and create this havoc in a country where we're not allowed to defend ourselves. If we could stop ISI's support and protection of the Taleban in Pakistan, the war would be over in no time,without having to negotiate with the terrorists. So the root of this mess is in Pakistan, not in Afghanistan itself,and before this is solved,there'll never be peace, as the Pakistanis will continue to support and give safe haven, both to the Taleban and Al Queda,who also use Pakistan,as their training ground for international terroism, so it's not only the Taleban-problem that would be solved, but the international terrorism as well, if Pakistan is fixed. What about cutting in the billions of dollars in aid, they are getting, every time a NATO-convoy is blown to peaces, on their soil, by their Taleban friends. Maybe that would help. It also makes no sense for me at all, to finance Pakistan,who then again finances the Taliban and Al Queda.Why support your enemy ?

    October 7, 2010 at 8:44 am | Report abuse |
    • dindy Sri lanka

      you are correct here.should not give more support to the countries who bottle feed terrorists.

      October 8, 2010 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
      • dindy Sri lanka

        I didn't post that stupid comment above,Torben as I never aprove of all that right-wing mumbo-jumbo you keep posting here!

        October 8, 2010 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      If We keep killing Their Leaders with Our Drones... They will have nothing else but to talk PEACE with us!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Well, I don't know. New leaders are popping up the whole time. But for sure, the drone attacks are very important, against Al-Quedas prepared attacks, against Europe and U.S.A, because of good intel in the area,they hit them in the budding of their plans.Very effective,and has prevented a lot of innocent lives, to be wasted, all over the world.So more power to that,and that they are so precise,that no innocents are killed. The germans killed recently,weren't exactly turists.

        October 9, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  37. agila ng davao

    Talking peace with islamic militants like taliban,is useless and will go nowwhere.Rather Karzai,must talk with the tribal leaders and make a deal.Islamic miltants do not have clout in the tribal areas unless tribal leaders have authority and accepted by locals.taliban will use peace talk as tactical ceasefire to rearm and reorganized . then when they felt,they the tactical advantage and the gov't will put their guard down,then they will resume offensive.Rather karzai must follow the doctrine of clear,hold and rebuild and established permanent central government presence and strenghten the political and economic lives of the locals. This strategy was successful and still successful today.

    October 7, 2010 at 8:39 am | Report abuse |
    • bailoutsos

      Back in the early 80s, the Taliban were America's secret lover in Afghanistan. Guess the relationship went sour.

      October 7, 2010 at 2:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever...

        Shows how much you know. The Taliban didn't even EXIST in the 80s!
        Stick to cutting and pasting headlines.

        October 7, 2010 at 3:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • bailoutsos

        Larry Valecia, Calif.US Army Forever... Shows how much you know. The Taliban didn't even EXIST in the 80s!
        Stick to cutting and pasting headlines. @@@@ Response to your comment has been noted elsewhere.

        October 7, 2010 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • justin

        bailoutsos, the taliban are pashtun people, and have been around for centuries. And recognized as the taliban at least since the 1880's. Get your facts straight.

        October 7, 2010 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ladislav Nemec, Big Bear, CA

        Yes, technically it did NOT exist. Its precursor, the 'mujahedeen' were indeed our allies – we considered the Russsins worse than Islamic fanatics and they were just as effective with them as they are now with us.

        Russians, on the other hand, turned (hopefully) almost into lambs fighting their own Muslims in Chechnya and elsewehere. These are the ironies of history, more precisely bad judgment on the highest places.

        October 7, 2010 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Taliban is a generic term meaning students, and has been around a long time. Taliban with a capital T, meaning the extremist group, originated in 1994 when the Mujahadin from the war with Russia decided to implement sharia law in Afghanistan. Their reign is unfortunate, but I don't see how it's any of our business. We're after Bin Laden, and shouldn't be involving ourselves with 12th century cultures.

        October 8, 2010 at 8:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Wilder Napalm

        Yep back in those days they went by the name Mujahideen. And I bet ya can't guess who one of their commanders was.

        October 8, 2010 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
      • G.W. Hayduke III

        Ronnie Reagan funded Osama bin Ladin and the mujahadeen with $1Billion dollars in weapons and training to fight the Soviets. It appears that America does not know how to play "Enemy of My Enemy Is My Friend" and the little rabid weasels turned on their handlers when they ran out of Soviet Infidels to kill.

        October 11, 2010 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • dandydonny

        Why is it that people who have no clue about anything always want to shoot their mouth off? It just shows the depth of your ignorance.

        October 12, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • chris

        lol please pick up a history book or atleast admit you dont know enough. The Taliban was formed in the mid 90's and actually fought against some of the 'mujahadeen' from the 80's i.e. Gulbudinn Hekmatyar. They fought Hekmatyar and he soon recognized their growing power and influence. Hekmatyar was the one backed by the U.S. and he turned out to be a bad investment, since now he is allied with his former enemies the Taliban. We should have rallied to the leader of the Northern Alliance, the more moderate Ahmad Shah Massoud who ironically scored major defeats against the Soviets laregly without U.S. help. He was murdered by Al-Qaeda in 2000 I believe. In any event before you slander our country and post your ignorance, atleast learn a little bit of history.

        October 14, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ladislav Nemec, Big Bear, CA

      Of course it is useless but unavoidable – just like talking to Vietcong/North Vietnam more than thirty years ago.

      Our only goal: is to get out from that god forsaken part of the world. OK, Allah may love them but He does not like us, that's for sure.

      Smokescreen like the 'Paris Accords' (look it up on Google, one of the Kissinger's masterpieces of deception) is required for our withdrawal. Karzai now calls Taliban 'brothers' hoping that he (and his family) will survive after we leave and we WILL leave sooner or later. Prolonging the agony of unwinable war serves no purpose except postponing retirement of a few generals and enriching few Afghans with our money that is, just like in Iraq, mostly stolen.

      October 7, 2010 at 7:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • runswithbeer

        In Viet Nam today the same people we were fighting run the place. Are are OUR FRIENDS. The whole friggin Viet Nam war could have been avoided had it not been for Radical Right-Wing Christians who were scared to death of Godless Commies.
        Funny thing is Most Vietnamese are BUDDHIST. +They just wanted to run their own country their way.

        October 14, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Manuel J.

        Shows how much you know about Viet Nam. U.S. involvement in Viet Nam started with JFK... a Democrat. Get your facts straight before filling the blogs with garbage.

        October 17, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • A responsible Citizen

      I think talking with Taliban is the only way to have peace in Afghanistan because Taliban has been turned to a Political force as well.

      October 9, 2010 at 1:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Kevin

        The reality is this, Obama is going to start pulling out next year anyway, with requisite smoke and mirrors, everyone knows this including the Taliban. Negotiations with local taliban leaders is the only possible solution. They want to control certain geographical regions, so why dont we work with local tribal leaders to create IOWABAN, OHIOBAN, UTAHSTAN, they understand locally, not at a federal level. This is the same mistake we made in IRAQ, work with what you have< a tribal infrastructure, so build city states around that model. The taliban do not care about Al Queda, they want local control. Sharia law is the problem. You mandate to them don't get support for your local city state unless you play like like a human being and not some 12th century animal. You get your own pomegranate groves, wind towers, irrigation systems, roads, and lithium mineral rights and mines, if you give women their rights, and all kids go to school. Where is the carrot? it needs to be local valley control, districts, get some infrastructure in there, show them a localized plan where the "local chieftans" have a stake, then get the hell out of there, and soon.

        October 12, 2010 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      It might be a waste of time like with the Palestine... But if You don't talk PEACE all you will get is more killing!!! I rather try for PEACE myself...

      October 9, 2010 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Naija Boy

      AMERICA IS HAVESTING WHAT THEY PLANTED IN AFGHANISTAN, CARTER RIGIME THROUGH NSA ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI ADVOCATED A POLICY OF SUPPORTING (THE GREEN) MUSLIM BROTHERS AGAINST (THE RED). THE OBJECTIVE WAS TOPPLE THE THEN SECULAR GOVERNMENT OF AFGHANISTAN, IT IS THE SAME IN IRAQ NOW. THE MUJAHEDINS USA SUPPORTED IN THE 1970`S AND 1980`S BECAME THE TALIBAN OF THE 1990`S.

      October 10, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Don't keep on messing around in former bad mistakes,that are only clear to understand in hindsight. If the decisionmakers, had known what would happen,i believe they would have decided otherwise. It's not easy to be fortune telling, especially about the future. So let's concentrate our comments, about what to do NOW, and in the NEAR future instead. Try to think positive,if there's anything positive to think of 🙂

        October 11, 2010 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
      • chris

        yeah sure like Ahmad Shah Massoud the most renowned anti-Soviet fighter of the 1980's became part of the Taliban right? He was murdered by the Taliban and or Al-Qaeda in 2000.

        October 14, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • BILL

        YES YES.............YES .

        October 16, 2010 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • IDA LANG

      Talibaner ingen berättigad tvinga folk som får inte kvinnor,flickor gå till skolan skall aldrig mörda vem som helst,det är allvarlig förbrytelser,kriminellt,låt bli alla folk ge frihet!!!!Det är allvarlig brott mot mänskligheterna.STOPPA KRIG MELLAN AFGATINSTAN,PAKISTAN OOCH NÄRMASTE GRÄNS!!!STOPPA KRIG!!!TALIBANER MÅSTE ERKÄNDE ATT DET ÄR ALLVARLIG BROTT MOT MÄNSKLIGHETER.STACKARS FOLK ÄR OSKYLDIGA DÖ UTAN SKÄL,VARFÖR TVINGA FOLK SOM BEHÖVER RÄDD FÖR TALIBANER,TROR BARA TALINANER ÄR STARKA,ABSOLUT INTE,DET ÄR SKANDALÖSA I FRIHETERNA SOM INBLANDAD I FRÅGORNA.

      October 11, 2010 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
      • Torben Schmidt

        Du burde tale engelsk i dette forum. Svensk er ikke et verdenssprog, so SPEAK ENGLISH

        October 11, 2010 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • The Prophet Mohammed

        나는 영어

        October 12, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
      • walt

        The Prohpet Muhammed are u kidding me just a question how would Patton handle this????????

        January 22, 2011 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Rs1stars

      It is time for the US to focus on US interest as a priority. The Taliban are not going to get Christmas cards from me, but as long as they cease to support Al-Qaeda then the US interests are served. If we do not need to settle a cival war in Afghanistan to achieve our aims with Al-Qaeda, then let's let them sort our their own issues. The Taliban have no interest in globalizing their fight. Al-Qaeda does. Our real issue is Pakistan – and their neglect of Al-Qaeda on their turf while they fret over India. Al-Qaeda is essentially now out of Afghanistan and is free to operate in Pakistan. We've forgotten that our issue since 9/11 is Al-Qaeda. It never was Iraq. And it is not the Taliban in Afghanistan....even if they are a band of whack-jobs.

      October 11, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • MDVOL

      We need to KEEP THE SOLDIERS IN AFGHANISTAN until they have DONE their DUTY and WON the WAR!!!

      October 11, 2010 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shirley Dick

        Partial agreement with you- NEVER draw back with the enemy. However, we need to count the loss of life here, also what will be the outcome in the future if we pull our troops out of there, also take into account that the Afgh people don't want us there. Future episodes of terrorism from Taliban will be a world issue in the future.They have set up shop in other parts of the world already, a total threat to world security. They can be defeated with worldwide coalition forces. I doubt if negotiating with them will help. if we negotiate, a deportation order for their people back to Afghanistan, as I mentioned earlier, they are a threat to world security. Do no buying, trading, or negotiating with them.

        October 13, 2010 at 8:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      Israeli PM offers conditional settlements freeze
      WRCB Chattanooga Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:29 AM PDT
      Israel's prime minister on Monday offered to extend a moratorium on Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank, but only if the Palestinians meet his demand to recognize Israel as a Jewish state.

      October 12, 2010 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
      • nomorelies

        How many times do Palestinians have to go down on their knees and accept the Israeli rights. Yasser Arafat did that as a precondition. Every other leader after him is forced to utter it and then Israel keeps grabbing more and more land and not keep its pledges. That is the reason Hamas came into being and became rebellious. Israel has no intention of giving up anything. They have much superior weapons. It is in their short term interest to keep stalling and grabbing as much land and humiliate the Palestinians as they can.

        October 13, 2010 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Polisicks

      Let Karzai do as he pleases – it's his country. Insofar as the U.S., is concerned, we should first bring all of our military back home and then negotiate long distance, via the internet, with the Taliban. U.S. politicians are great talkers. That's all they ever do.

      October 12, 2010 at 4:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lon

      The Mujaheddin were different than the Taliban. The Muj were Tribal leaders like Massoud, Hekmatyar and others who we used, (operational word here being USED) to fight the crumbling Soviet Union. Support for the emergence of the Taliban as a militia and jihadist group made up of Fanatical Islamists from the Islamic schools along the Pakistan Afghan border was somewhat split among the the Muj that we supported through the CIA in the 70's and 80's. Hektmayar pro, Massoud con.. for example. Many tribal leaders and Soviet leaders were very worried about this new brand of Fanatic Sharia. Unfortunately the Taliban, largely, were allowed to come into power by clandestine support from Pakistan and certain Warlords from Afghanistan and generally a policy of appeasement on many fronts, including our own CIA and state department.

      October 13, 2010 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Thunder

        used imlies they got nothing out of it. did they not want russia out?

        October 18, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • K. bro

      I'd just blow the whole area off the map

      October 14, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • runswithbeer

      Peace in Afghanistan only comes with Peace in the Middle East. The Middle East is the key to removing the sting from the Scorpion's (Taliban) Tail. Radical groups on ALL sides must be stopped and folks with some common sense need to take their place.

      October 14, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • momomiester

      Sure it is a good idea!. We should of talked with the nazis during WW2. Being passive always works in a fight cause the other guy will take pity on you and quit. Really? I think it is time to replace the Wimp in chief with a real man that can actually lead this country. Either fight or go home and quit spending billions.

      October 15, 2010 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
    • miras

      peace will only come when the u.s. quits giving israel a free ride to build homes on what little the palestians had. we should w/draw immediately from iraq, afghan. they don't want us there, can't we understand that. but then look how profitable war is for contractors, arms manufacturers, etc. if we hadn't supported israel, right or wrg, there wouldn't have been 9/11. they gave us a taste of what they've gone thru for yrs. i'm just tellg it like it is. we want to kill our enemies; they want to kill us. i'm sick of hearing, if we w/draw, thatmore than 4,000 soldiers lost their lives for nothg; the only thg worse is 5,000 soldiers losing lives. we're going to w/draw, just like in V.N. but as the viet cong said, we will prevail after many more lose their lives. now they're our friends. what must the VN vets feel???

      October 17, 2010 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • markjuliansmith

      You are perfectly correct. Nothing has ever been achieved in Afghanistan by simply compromising ideals for a quick fix. There is no quick fix.

      Previously given the logistical buffers Western Democracies were protected from the Textual Islamic violence against other and women, this is no longer the case.

      Western Democracies have no choice in the Middle East and Central Asia than to stay the course in establishing secular Democracies.

      Retreating is no option there is simply no longer anywhere to retreat. It is either in the long term a Democratic Text or Islamic Text; it cannot and could never be both. The reason being Islamic Text as in the Quran makes it very clear non-adherence in any form is unacceptable and necessarily subject to grievous harm despite whatever so called moderate Muslims claim.

      It is my opinion in a civilised society if you believe what is only in the first two chapters of the Quran regards other you cannot be deemed in anyway a moderate.

      The truth is the terror has been occurring since the formation of Islam with Mohammad’s own murderous actions against other will not stop until Islamic text demeaning other and subscribing ‘grievous harm’ for being so is deleted.

      October 18, 2010 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
    • prosperare

      Don't we learn from history? At the time he engaged in appeasement, Chamberlain's actions were also viewed quite favorably. History tells us how that went. Sometimes it has to be right to fight. This is one of those moments in history. Never give in to the Taliban. Never surrender. Never give up. What is right will someday prove itself.

      October 18, 2010 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Lance Ness

      Negotiating with the Taliban almost sounds like kissing Hitler on the mouth. Hate to do it, but if it ends the war, saves lots of lives (American, British and Afghan), and helps bring some level of freedom and democracy to Afghanistan, it may be worth it. And it just might help us finally find and capture Bion Ladin.

      However, I find it highly likely the Taliban would use peace as an attempt to gain control of Afghanistan again. There has to be a way to keep them in check, maybe even disarmed, or this peace process could result in disaster.

      October 19, 2010 at 8:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Lawrence

      you are correct – Islamic militants view any "peace", "negotiations", "ceasefire" or absence of conflict as a time to re-arm and re-plan acts of terrorism and violence. The only thing that will stop the Islamic war machine and Muslim aggression is our complete surrender and subjugation. When we are beaten, enslaved and we are completely under the control of the Imams and Sharia Law, our Islamic masters will end the war. Of course, the violence and brutality that Muslims display (even against each other) all over the world will continue. It just won't be called "Jihad" anymore.

      October 19, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • walt

      Are you aLL kidding your analogies are all insane the analogy related to islam is nazism if we all agree that no matter what the civilized world does this violence will not stop than just like WW2 there is absolutley no other option total victory against these dirtbags when we are dead and buried are kids are gonna wonder why we didnt deal with this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      January 22, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |