The real Afghan warriors will rise soon....they neither agree with occupation by ISI of Pakistan or the US gov't who funds them...Afghan warriors do not believe in killing innocent in Afghanistan or in the west...The US is insincere using PAkistan as a broker and corruption as an excuse(though it exists, US has give 9 billion out of the 300 spent on military expedition in Afghanistan)...so the Afghan warriors are watching US fund and fight the insurgency at the same time...Rest assure the honor dignity, sovereignty and independence of Afghanistan will be kept. So it is the moral obligation of Americans to their gov't to be sincere with Afghans, either apply the MArshal plan to rebuild the nation and stop interfering in Afghan affairs...or keep funding your South Asian Agent or terrorism, Pakistan....
You are, of course, being silly. When Americans leave, they will withdraw with a great deal of honor. We don't have tails to tuck between our legs. We are real men, who will face an adversary openly, not hide behing out women's skirts or behind our children. That is our major difference. You Taliban have no manhood about you. True, you can fight. But you don't have honor on the battlefield. You can't win a fair fight. The same goes for Al-qieda. You are cowards, and it shows. The world is looking, and snickering at you. America will withdraw someday becuase you won't fight to the finish. Go hide your heads betewwn your legs and tremble. That is what you are best at.
All I know is that nothing has worked over there, and it's terribly expensive to keep our military in the area. The violence in senseless and endless. I doubt that one thing will change there, because most of the Afghan people don't care enough to change it. Whe America goes to war, the best course is to go against a people, not a portion of them. That way we can win. The difference between winning and losing lies in our concept of war, not in our ability to win.
I have two son's in Afhganistan both say the war is a waste of American lives and no resoloution is in sight. We secure the country and the big corporations come in and take all the resources of the country. The Afhgans are on their own. They should be. The Soviet Union spent 10 yearsw there for nothing and now we have been there 9 years. We need to get out now. The cost in American lives is not worth the time and money we have spent. This is just another Viet Nam but 40 years later. Obama won't even go there to support our troops. Get out now while we can. A ex Marine with 20 years in the Corps knows what is right and wrong. This is a waste of time. Semper Fi.
Mr. Brooks, you are right on the money. I sure wish that a lot of your mMarine buddies also speak out. Everyone has his/her own concept about how we could have won. My concept is that we should have gone against the NATION of whatever country that we went into. That way, we could have won instead of getting all bogged down. It worked in a couple of world wars, and it can work in today's world too. My hat is off to you for tellng it like it is. We can't win this way.
One might as well ask "Where have all the Samuri gone?" or "Where have all the Mongols gone" .. or ask the same for any other famed fighters in the past. The honest answer is they exist to fight, and so when there are long periods of extended conflict, they fight and fight and fight till they die off in battle. And these often happns before they can train newer recruits to take up their mantle. Essentially they kill themselves off. Evolution at it's finest.
These two wars that were started with lies are financially destroying the United States. You people in charge OBUMA and the PENTAGON. STUPID! BLIND! ANOTHER VIETNAM ALL OVER AGAIN! We the citizens of the USA are going totally broke while you people in charge are getting hefty salaries from the Govt borrowing money to pay you to do your job. WELL, DO YOUR JOB!!! If you want to correct the huge deficit, start with the largest BILLS. They are easy to spot. THE BILLS, BOTH WARS, STUPID!!!
John, the Afghan are indeed warriors. They are not on our side, but they know about war. And they are pretty good strategists. That is why they are still around after we have given them a good pounding. Whta I have stated several times is that we needed to go to war against their nation, not against a small segment of it. By now we would have been victorious.
Seems to be allergic to Hindu, what a shame, claim that Islam treats everyone equally and hardly able to hide the feeling, idiots. In civil society we ignore such morons. Seems to be effect of being disowned in south Asia and despised by Arabs and now getting under pressure from NATO. Even God is not sparing these idiots.
Break the country of Pakistan, divide them and throw them out of South Asia, let the pieces join Yemen, Sudan and Somalia. That is where they need to be in terms of stability and ideology.
I couldn’t listen to Mary Poppnins narrate this with a straight face, has she ever been anywhere near Afghanistan? If the Russians had her to do their propaganda, why, they would still be there building the Afgan army instead of us? No where in the narritive does the word Taliban, Most corrupt govenment in the world, or producer of 90 percent of the worlds heroin to be heard. My understanding is that we invaded Afghanistan to capture Osma Bin Laden, hows that going after nine years? Huh, She didn’t say.
Does my name Ernie Beatty sound Hindu to you?I happen to be an Anglo-Saxon American and proud of it!And you guys accuse me of having a Hindu sister!Shame on you all !!!
Gracious... Look, Afghanistan will not be a democracy, will not be free of corruption, will not be free of tribal conflict, women will be disrespected to one level or another, Sharia will prevail, and life in general will be nasty, brutish and short. We can do nothing about that whatsoever. What we CAN do, is make it clear to all of the Afghan people that we don't give a damn about their government, culture, or anything else other than the utter denial of of sanctuary to Al Qaeda and open espousal of violent global jihad. Set up an Islamic society ala 1100 AD, we don't care. However, we also don't care if your government cannot control non statist elements within their borders who do perpetrate violent global jihad and attack our citizens wherever they may be (except within your own borders – if a US citizen is stupid enough to come, they deserve what they get). We will visit a level of horror upon your nation that will make the ghosts of Hitler and Stalin blanch. Collateral damage be damned. Geneva Conv and UN be damned. Your only salvation is to find these people and deal with them yourself. If we come back we will kill. No well digging, no roads, no money, just killing like you have never seen. More rage, more Taliban, more jihad, more killing. Either break the cycle or face extinction. As I write this I recall what Golda Meir said. She didn't hate the Palestinians because they hated her, or wanted to push her people into the sea, or killed Israelis, she hated them because they turned Israeli children into killers themselves in order to survive. She was right. Such barbarity leaves a stain on a collective soul that no high aim can erase. If we go the route described above we will carry that stain – to a certain extent we already do, the blotch will just get a whole lot bigger. I honestly think though, that no middle ground exists here and it saddens me. Until the Islamic moderates stand up and deal with this issue within their culture and faith, and recognize they they will have to kill their brothers and die themselves (enough are dying already), they must all be viewed as 'the other', and treated as such. I'll leave the soapbox with this core belief: genocide can be a very effective foreign policy tool if not performed by half measures, and when chosen be sure to dig two graves, one for those you kill and one for your own soul.
Why are we there? It can be traced back to the chain of events that happened after 9/11. 9/11 happened because Muslim fanatics blamed the US for the deaths of Muslims through our support of Israel. George Bush said the attacks were because Muslim extremists "hated freedom". What a crock! It happened because, right or wrong, of our long support of Israel.
I absolutely agree with you that Sharia will prevail in that part of the world. Children are indoctrinated with this from the time they're able to understand what's being said to them. It will never change until more people want it to change than don't want it to change, and that may take a long time. Throwing money at them won't do anything but increase our spending deficit. We should have learned that in Viet Nam. The war against these people is very winnable. The price, however, is massive collateral damage. The rest of the world, in this day and age, wouldn't accept this. 65 years ago, the world learned how to deal with fanatics. Bush talked about "Shock and Awe". In 1945, Harry Truman gave them "Shock and Awe".
they have always been lazy, opium-smoking sheep-fukkers. if it weren't for their geographically central position between real powers and cultures (persia, china, india), they would simply have always been a forgotten parking lot of failure and ignorance for all of their 'history'.
how many fat, rich, old arab men did she have to satisfy to be allowed to prance like a h00kker in front of the camera for 15 minutes of worthless regional fame? i'm sure there are many snakes living in that warm cave every night
There were no Afghanistan warriors. The people that defeated the Soviet army in Afghanistan came from Pakistan and used U.S. military equipment and technology. The Afghans didn't defeat the British either. The terrain and the lack of interest by the Afghan people to support the British meant that any goods would be too expensive to bring back to Britain compared to getting the resources from the more logistically friendly areas. Even Alexander the Great gave up his expansion after the Afghan troops that joined him refused to fight. During the recent Afghan civil war, warriors would take pot shots at each other then leave the battlefield. Even the Taliban couldn't really control the population nor were they driven out without massive help from other countries. The way the Afghans have fought is to take out the supply lines of over extended foreigners. The Taliban don't use supply lines and they are fairly local compared to others that have walked into Afghanistan.
mr Greg, It was the Afghan nation and forces that fought the soviet union. U.S did help and sent weapons. But you should be also aware of this, that Pakistan used to exchanged those new weapons with their old ones and used to send it then. The aid reached after few years of the attack and before the so-called aid, it was the Afghan men who fought and defeated the attackers. It is all known that the soviet union did not come to attack afghanistan, they actually came to invent Pakistan to get way to the warm-seas. Russians are friendly people.
And again it was the Afghan soldiers, brave civilians who defeated Briton, thrice. Every single person of my country are peace maker and are against war... But when it comes to attacking our country, every single child, men women feels responsible and defends their country.
I worked closely with Afghan security guards at our FOB. They were completely disinterested in providing base security. We do not have the hearts & minds of the Afghan people. They watch us with interest, but they aren't convinced we will improve their lives. We will not win in Afghan. No army that ever marched succeeded in Afghanistan. Indeed, until fifty-some years ago, there was no Afghanistan. The locals care little for their country, they think in terms of their village, clan or sect.
I think anyone will be more than willing to help "good people of afghanistan" if they are really determined to bring them freedom and peace. But I am afraid they might be only about a handful percentage of the people who are like that combined with their violence extremism no one can really help them. They need to step up and come out of fear even if its their family members working for these extremist groups. At the end as long as they all come together with a determined mindset, its just waste of help/effort from other countries.
NUKE THAT WHOLE SIDE OF THE WORLD, AFGANISTAN, PAKISTAN, almost all of the stans, and we will have no problems! tell them we are going to do it, lets watch them scramble then nuke um all!
Or a NaPak boy born to a Arab-Pushtun parents and living in some mountain burrows. Dreaming of sharia law and conversion of all of Af-Pak to their narrow ideology with no culture except cane-stone throwing games on victims of adultery theft or worse selling movies/songs.
Where have all the Afghan Warriors gone..... Gone to Flowers everyone!
My opinion is I don't care what happens in Afghanistan I am sick of hearing about it, I am sick of Muslims, and their towel head sand eating ways. Going around killing anything that even looks different than them. I say get the hell out now and cut all funding and support of all kinds. I believe we the Un-United States of America should support only those that ask for our support and only if they are willing to commit themselves into what ever struggle they are hoping to accomplish and then only if it also compliments our goals. Any one of these conditions no longer applies then we drop everything and leave. We need to take care of our own, and we need to do it NOW.
I don't know what we are talking about But let me have my say." I would rather have a bottle in front of me then a frontal lobotomy" Thank you very much.
Afghanistan warriors are secretely acomplices of the Taliban. They dont want the US to know but why do you think they could never find them? or Osama.. ??? is because Afghan warriors them selves are hiding them and misleading US troops into looking for them in places where they will never be found.
i strongly believe the color blue is under-represented in the food kingdom. blueberries. thats pretty much it for blue food. and usually they are purple anyway.
I find your comments disturbing 'Bledsoe' you seem to have a distorted sense of right and wrong, a picture offends you but the act of mutilation it would appear is ok. You are a sick and twisted individual.
Moowwwwwwwwwwwwww where all thous as hole Hindu who they spouse to worship me they do not clean my stool now and spend hours on chating on the internet i will punish them and gore them in there a s s es with my horn
I long for the day when we finally nuke these Persian and Arab dogs. The muslim nations will soon go down in a bright flash, and things will be much more peaceful in the world. These nations offer the world nothing but death and misery. Once their stench is wiped clean the world will be better off.
Hae ! why you hate so much Terrible Ted ? I am not persian, neither arabic and don'tlike dogs. The true Islamic culture that you ignore has offered a lot to the world. Without their knoledge your America will never be discovered, so we will be forced to have in Europe people like you.
Read "Caravans" by James Michener. Very insightful novel based on Afghanistan, its history, culture, and people. It was published in 1963 and he even predict the Soviet and the US invasions of Afghanistan. You can find many clues as to why we are in this mess even after 10 years.
Pakistan should not exist as a country, as it has no culture, tradition, history, language or any good purpose for existence.
so it should be divided into 3 parts, a good chunk should go to India. a small part including a sea port should go to Afghanistan and some part to Iran.
You ignorant idiot, you seems to be as someone mentioned an Arab-Pustun b****d. Check your masters doing with fresh camel dung. Search web for "fresh camel dung", you will see what your masters were doing, go and have some before you get senses you moron.
Mulla Umar & their Men are those warrior.They will fight with US & Nato countries in AF till they leave the AF land & end this so called war on terror. We can see clearly how after 9 years US & Nato countries arguing Taliban to do peace talk a7 laid down arm, their causality increases day by day. US ON THE VERGE OF DEFEAT with their invasion in Iraq & AF
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over againand expecting different results” – Albert Einstein
Candidate Obama, his Clinton era advisers, and sadly all too many others fail to recognize a web of inter-connected, persistent constraints, or given realties. One might label them as the “five cannots”: US/NATO cannot send 400,000 combat troops to garrison Afghanistan’s towns, hamlets and countryside (which is a pre-condition for reconstruction to win hearts and minds ); the US/NATO cannot impose a powerful central government upon Afghanistan ; the US/NATO cannot neutralize the very effective least-cost weapons of choice of the Afghan resistance (IED’s and suicide bombers); the US/NATO cannot seal the Afghan-Pakistan border and hence will not eliminate the vital sanctuary so necessary to a guerrilla movement); and lastly, the Pakistan government has never been able to dominate its vast tribal borderlands and there is no reason to believe such will change. Those who choose not to understand these “five cannots” advocate change in a vacuum. The present military impasse begets a political solution and the abandonment of any nation-building fantasy.
The perceived poison of a foreign occupation, the rampant corruption, the all-too-frequent desecration of Islam by the occupiers, the sheer folly of the US/NATO seeking to extend the writ of a central government into the Pashtun tribal regions, the spiraling count of civilian deaths has shifted the Afghan struggle towards being a war of national liberation. The presence of foreign forces is furthermore according to the United Nations’ senior expert on Al Qaeda (CIA created), providing the glue with which Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda network is bonding support in the region. Anatol Lieven of King’s College (London) puts things aptly. Afghanistan is
Becoming a sort of surreal hunting estate, in which the U.S. and NATO breed the very terrorists they then track down.
No matter that in Kabul even foreigners speak about being “inside a living hell.” No matter that veteran reporter Kathy Gannon notes that Afghans are fed up with the U.S. and Karzai. No matter that Karzai and U.S. bombs have transformed what was once a backward looking Taliban primarily espousing sharia into a thriving modern movement of resistance and national liberation. No matter that anti-Americanism is spiraling in Pakistan as U.S raids take place. Obama and McCain propose dusty death without end in Afghanistan. And you wonder where their warriors are...!!!
Very well written and your argument is very thoughtful. Could you please write with less flamboyance and more conciseness. That way you could get your points across in a way that is accessible to many and not just those able to understand your superior prose and sophisticated vocabulary. Also, you would save your readers a lot of time.
Were we suppose to be impressed with the choice of words you have strung up together to undermine what the US and the rest of the civilized world is trying to do in Afghanistan? (rhetorical) No I was not impressed! In fact you sound amature at best madame! There are evil people in the world and evil thrives when good men do nothing. It's so easy to hate on the U.S. if only every Country can truly say they are the "Land of the free and home of the brave" Freedom and bravery have shaped the U.S.
Good post. We will break our dick on the rocks of Afghanistan for another 2 years, call it done and perhaps find a new country to murder. The campaign of endless war and endless war profiteering will continue as long as the Chinese (and our grandchildren) will finance our deficits.
What, is that supposed to be funny, the snarky postings? Please. Go find a sandbox to go play in, babies.
By warriors, I assume you mean honorable men who fight for a justified cause and are willing to give up their lives in pursuit of a higher and more noble goal. The so-called "warriors" of the Taliban are opportunistic and hypocritical thugs who hide behind a mask of piety in order to kill as many men, women, and children as they can before going home to chop their wives' heads off for being late with dinner. Most of the higher-ranking Taliban wouldn't die for Allah...they'll brainwash naive young men into doing their dirty work. They may be formidable opponents, but they are NOT warriors.
"Most of the higher-ranking Taliban wouldn't die for Allah...they'll brainwash naive young men into doing their dirty work."
Well said Travis. There young, naive and easily manipulated. There going to be MARTYRS. There going to get their 72 virgins. Bwahahahahah. Yeah, RIGHT!!!! Look dummies, how stupid can you be? Your leader, Osama Bin Coward wouldn't do what he wants you to do. He's waaaaay too valuable to go to paradise, just yet (according to him). Allah wants him to stay here on earth and 'fight" for the cause. Anybody want to buy a bridge? You're not going to Heaven and you're not getting any virgins, all you're going to be is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. Non-existent. Outta here. You're not going to see your wife or children ever again. For that matter, you're not going to see anything ever again.
For the sake of argument, lets say there is a just God. Do you think any God is going to be happy with you killing innocent women and children? If there IS a just God, I fear for you. Instead of virgins it'll be "Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, go straight to Hell.
Most of the taliban are pakistani. The taliban was created by Pakistan's ISI (their equivalent of the KGB). All of the suicide bombing taking place in afghanistan and the surrounding region (including India) is due to fundamentalist Pakistanis. The ignorant and crazy fundamentalist Pakistani people need to be investigated as they are the most likely agents of the acts of terror in the region and perhaps abroad as well.
Very well said my brother.
Someone should stupid These stupid Pakistanies.
Pakistan = Terrorists !!
Pakistan wake up before it's too late !!!
Pakistan is known as terrorists country/location right now and 75% world wide knows it, before it becomes 100% pakistan should stop doing all these BS !
Hope Pakistan understand this and stop killing innocent people else someone will use Nuclear bomb on Pakistan and clean Pakistanies from the earth.
The Taliban has existed in Afganistan for hundreds of years...the British and Russians fought them in the 18th and 19th Centuries...they were and are Fundalmentalist...shuned by most and intimidate the weak. They have been and are a scourage on Afganistan.
NOT JUST PAKISTANI, BUT SUPPORT FROM IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA, YEMEN, SAUDI, AND MOST LOCAL AFGHANS. THE WAR IS OVER; LET US LEAVE AND PAY THEM THE $350M BILLION IN WAR DEBT TO FIX THERE COUNTRY. IT IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN STAYING. USE OUR INTEL TO CONTROL INSIDE COUNTRY.
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Gone to flowers, everyone. When will they ever learn?
They have taken to blowing up women and children.
The real Afghan warriors will rise soon....they neither agree with occupation by ISI of Pakistan or the US gov't who funds them...Afghan warriors do not believe in killing innocent in Afghanistan or in the west...The US is insincere using PAkistan as a broker and corruption as an excuse(though it exists, US has give 9 billion out of the 300 spent on military expedition in Afghanistan)...so the Afghan warriors are watching US fund and fight the insurgency at the same time...Rest assure the honor dignity, sovereignty and independence of Afghanistan will be kept. So it is the moral obligation of Americans to their gov't to be sincere with Afghans, either apply the MArshal plan to rebuild the nation and stop interfering in Afghan affairs...or keep funding your South Asian Agent or terrorism, Pakistan....
They're a myth.
Warriors! they aren't warriors! they are all cowards! they go and hide in the hills like a cochroach does!
Where you say? Prolly on their way to Mexico, looking to cross the Northern Mexico border before it's too late.
Because the Taliban already kidnapped all the ones that look like that.
You are, of course, being silly. When Americans leave, they will withdraw with a great deal of honor. We don't have tails to tuck between our legs. We are real men, who will face an adversary openly, not hide behing out women's skirts or behind our children. That is our major difference. You Taliban have no manhood about you. True, you can fight. But you don't have honor on the battlefield. You can't win a fair fight. The same goes for Al-qieda. You are cowards, and it shows. The world is looking, and snickering at you. America will withdraw someday becuase you won't fight to the finish. Go hide your heads betewwn your legs and tremble. That is what you are best at.
All I know is that nothing has worked over there, and it's terribly expensive to keep our military in the area. The violence in senseless and endless. I doubt that one thing will change there, because most of the Afghan people don't care enough to change it. Whe America goes to war, the best course is to go against a people, not a portion of them. That way we can win. The difference between winning and losing lies in our concept of war, not in our ability to win.
I have two son's in Afhganistan both say the war is a waste of American lives and no resoloution is in sight. We secure the country and the big corporations come in and take all the resources of the country. The Afhgans are on their own. They should be. The Soviet Union spent 10 yearsw there for nothing and now we have been there 9 years. We need to get out now. The cost in American lives is not worth the time and money we have spent. This is just another Viet Nam but 40 years later. Obama won't even go there to support our troops. Get out now while we can. A ex Marine with 20 years in the Corps knows what is right and wrong. This is a waste of time. Semper Fi.
Mr. Brooks, you are right on the money. I sure wish that a lot of your mMarine buddies also speak out. Everyone has his/her own concept about how we could have won. My concept is that we should have gone against the NATION of whatever country that we went into. That way, we could have won instead of getting all bogged down. It worked in a couple of world wars, and it can work in today's world too. My hat is off to you for tellng it like it is. We can't win this way.
Like the KKK, the Taliban are bred. The world will never see the end of either.
Good Propaganda. Very soon you brave soldiers will leave Afghanistan with tail between their legs.
One might as well ask "Where have all the Samuri gone?" or "Where have all the Mongols gone" .. or ask the same for any other famed fighters in the past. The honest answer is they exist to fight, and so when there are long periods of extended conflict, they fight and fight and fight till they die off in battle. And these often happns before they can train newer recruits to take up their mantle. Essentially they kill themselves off. Evolution at it's finest.
These two wars that were started with lies are financially destroying the United States. You people in charge OBUMA and the PENTAGON. STUPID! BLIND! ANOTHER VIETNAM ALL OVER AGAIN! We the citizens of the USA are going totally broke while you people in charge are getting hefty salaries from the Govt borrowing money to pay you to do your job. WELL, DO YOUR JOB!!! If you want to correct the huge deficit, start with the largest BILLS. They are easy to spot. THE BILLS, BOTH WARS, STUPID!!!
Afghan and warrior do not go together Afghan and anti american terrorist YES
John, the Afghan are indeed warriors. They are not on our side, but they know about war. And they are pretty good strategists. That is why they are still around after we have given them a good pounding. Whta I have stated several times is that we needed to go to war against their nation, not against a small segment of it. By now we would have been victorious.
Form your wagons into a circle. The Indians are attacking!
Pakola peeing moron:)
Well said brother! The world would be much safer with the Dal khor Pakies, Arab and the Iranians.....
I mean without.
So what? Sydney is trying to process the sewage for drinking purpose.
Seems to be allergic to Hindu, what a shame, claim that Islam treats everyone equally and hardly able to hide the feeling, idiots. In civil society we ignore such morons. Seems to be effect of being disowned in south Asia and despised by Arabs and now getting under pressure from NATO. Even God is not sparing these idiots.
You don't need Alliance. Alliance are a bunch of pansies. You need the HORDE!
For the HORDE!!!!
If you amerocans will stop from telling other country what they must do will be better for all of us.
really touching video.... send the taliban to hell
Break the country of Pakistan, divide them and throw them out of South Asia, let the pieces join Yemen, Sudan and Somalia. That is where they need to be in terms of stability and ideology.
Get yourself thrown in a pool of cow urine.
Educate yourself with "fresh camel dung", check the web and you will know what I mean you moron.
I wish she was my sister.
What is it with you mullahs claiming women to be oppressed by "being on display". Seen a Pakistani TV channel lately.
I couldn’t listen to Mary Poppnins narrate this with a straight face, has she ever been anywhere near Afghanistan? If the Russians had her to do their propaganda, why, they would still be there building the Afgan army instead of us? No where in the narritive does the word Taliban, Most corrupt govenment in the world, or producer of 90 percent of the worlds heroin to be heard. My understanding is that we invaded Afghanistan to capture Osma Bin Laden, hows that going after nine years? Huh, She didn’t say.
Does my name Ernie Beatty sound Hindu to you?I happen to be an Anglo-Saxon American and proud of it!And you guys accuse me of having a Hindu sister!Shame on you all !!!
Gracious... Look, Afghanistan will not be a democracy, will not be free of corruption, will not be free of tribal conflict, women will be disrespected to one level or another, Sharia will prevail, and life in general will be nasty, brutish and short. We can do nothing about that whatsoever. What we CAN do, is make it clear to all of the Afghan people that we don't give a damn about their government, culture, or anything else other than the utter denial of of sanctuary to Al Qaeda and open espousal of violent global jihad. Set up an Islamic society ala 1100 AD, we don't care. However, we also don't care if your government cannot control non statist elements within their borders who do perpetrate violent global jihad and attack our citizens wherever they may be (except within your own borders – if a US citizen is stupid enough to come, they deserve what they get). We will visit a level of horror upon your nation that will make the ghosts of Hitler and Stalin blanch. Collateral damage be damned. Geneva Conv and UN be damned. Your only salvation is to find these people and deal with them yourself. If we come back we will kill. No well digging, no roads, no money, just killing like you have never seen. More rage, more Taliban, more jihad, more killing. Either break the cycle or face extinction. As I write this I recall what Golda Meir said. She didn't hate the Palestinians because they hated her, or wanted to push her people into the sea, or killed Israelis, she hated them because they turned Israeli children into killers themselves in order to survive. She was right. Such barbarity leaves a stain on a collective soul that no high aim can erase. If we go the route described above we will carry that stain – to a certain extent we already do, the blotch will just get a whole lot bigger. I honestly think though, that no middle ground exists here and it saddens me. Until the Islamic moderates stand up and deal with this issue within their culture and faith, and recognize they they will have to kill their brothers and die themselves (enough are dying already), they must all be viewed as 'the other', and treated as such. I'll leave the soapbox with this core belief: genocide can be a very effective foreign policy tool if not performed by half measures, and when chosen be sure to dig two graves, one for those you kill and one for your own soul.
Why are we there? It can be traced back to the chain of events that happened after 9/11. 9/11 happened because Muslim fanatics blamed the US for the deaths of Muslims through our support of Israel. George Bush said the attacks were because Muslim extremists "hated freedom". What a crock! It happened because, right or wrong, of our long support of Israel.
I absolutely agree with you that Sharia will prevail in that part of the world. Children are indoctrinated with this from the time they're able to understand what's being said to them. It will never change until more people want it to change than don't want it to change, and that may take a long time. Throwing money at them won't do anything but increase our spending deficit. We should have learned that in Viet Nam. The war against these people is very winnable. The price, however, is massive collateral damage. The rest of the world, in this day and age, wouldn't accept this. 65 years ago, the world learned how to deal with fanatics. Bush talked about "Shock and Awe". In 1945, Harry Truman gave them "Shock and Awe".
they have always been lazy, opium-smoking sheep-fukkers. if it weren't for their geographically central position between real powers and cultures (persia, china, india), they would simply have always been a forgotten parking lot of failure and ignorance for all of their 'history'.
how many fat, rich, old arab men did she have to satisfy to be allowed to prance like a h00kker in front of the camera for 15 minutes of worthless regional fame? i'm sure there are many snakes living in that warm cave every night
I guess that she'll make the NATO forces quite happy,though.YABBA-DABBA-DOO!!!
Afghans aren't Arabs.
And this video was shot in Pakistan, although the girl might be an Afghan, but the same ethnic group exists on both sides of the border.
Also, what is a "h00kker"....sorry but my understanding of English does not extend to informal terms.
A h00ker is a slang for pros a rakhel.
Lets us call Islamic Republic of Arab-Af-Pak Emirates. Will that satisfy you?
There were no Afghanistan warriors. The people that defeated the Soviet army in Afghanistan came from Pakistan and used U.S. military equipment and technology. The Afghans didn't defeat the British either. The terrain and the lack of interest by the Afghan people to support the British meant that any goods would be too expensive to bring back to Britain compared to getting the resources from the more logistically friendly areas. Even Alexander the Great gave up his expansion after the Afghan troops that joined him refused to fight. During the recent Afghan civil war, warriors would take pot shots at each other then leave the battlefield. Even the Taliban couldn't really control the population nor were they driven out without massive help from other countries. The way the Afghans have fought is to take out the supply lines of over extended foreigners. The Taliban don't use supply lines and they are fairly local compared to others that have walked into Afghanistan.
mr Greg, It was the Afghan nation and forces that fought the soviet union. U.S did help and sent weapons. But you should be also aware of this, that Pakistan used to exchanged those new weapons with their old ones and used to send it then. The aid reached after few years of the attack and before the so-called aid, it was the Afghan men who fought and defeated the attackers. It is all known that the soviet union did not come to attack afghanistan, they actually came to invent Pakistan to get way to the warm-seas. Russians are friendly people.
And again it was the Afghan soldiers, brave civilians who defeated Briton, thrice. Every single person of my country are peace maker and are against war... But when it comes to attacking our country, every single child, men women feels responsible and defends their country.
I worked closely with Afghan security guards at our FOB. They were completely disinterested in providing base security. We do not have the hearts & minds of the Afghan people. They watch us with interest, but they aren't convinced we will improve their lives. We will not win in Afghan. No army that ever marched succeeded in Afghanistan. Indeed, until fifty-some years ago, there was no Afghanistan. The locals care little for their country, they think in terms of their village, clan or sect.
I think anyone will be more than willing to help "good people of afghanistan" if they are really determined to bring them freedom and peace. But I am afraid they might be only about a handful percentage of the people who are like that combined with their violence extremism no one can really help them. They need to step up and come out of fear even if its their family members working for these extremist groups. At the end as long as they all come together with a determined mindset, its just waste of help/effort from other countries.
What is wrong with your sister? is she repulsive, does it run in the family?
AFGHAN WHAT
NEVER EXISTED
They're in my house giving me head.......jk LULZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good luck to them finding me i am in Finland!
NUKE THAT WHOLE SIDE OF THE WORLD, AFGANISTAN, PAKISTAN, almost all of the stans, and we will have no problems! tell them we are going to do it, lets watch them scramble then nuke um all!
Or a NaPak boy born to a Arab-Pushtun parents and living in some mountain burrows. Dreaming of sharia law and conversion of all of Af-Pak to their narrow ideology with no culture except cane-stone throwing games on victims of adultery theft or worse selling movies/songs.
Where have all the Afghan Warriors gone..... Gone to Flowers everyone!
My opinion is I don't care what happens in Afghanistan I am sick of hearing about it, I am sick of Muslims, and their towel head sand eating ways. Going around killing anything that even looks different than them. I say get the hell out now and cut all funding and support of all kinds. I believe we the Un-United States of America should support only those that ask for our support and only if they are willing to commit themselves into what ever struggle they are hoping to accomplish and then only if it also compliments our goals. Any one of these conditions no longer applies then we drop everything and leave. We need to take care of our own, and we need to do it NOW.
Mind your own d@mned business.
Don't forget Afgan people kept Bamiyan statues for 3000 years. Besides all all kind of war and cultural difference they kept it for so long.
What happened to the Bamiyan statues?
I wish that all these right-wing fools would just shut up!
This ain't fun, I'm American Jokes We need Jokes! Come on people your killing me!
I don't know what we are talking about But let me have my say." I would rather have a bottle in front of me then a frontal lobotomy" Thank you very much.
Afghan warriors are scared themselves of their own countrie's evil taliban. their laying low until the coast is clear.
Afghanistan warriors are secretely acomplices of the Taliban. They dont want the US to know but why do you think they could never find them? or Osama.. ??? is because Afghan warriors them selves are hiding them and misleading US troops into looking for them in places where they will never be found.
the war is lost, but the america people do not understand that concept? after 9 years and 2t dollars, the us is starting to get out. another lost war.
cherry poptarts are disgusting. stick to blueberry, and you'll never go wrong.
i strongly believe the color blue is under-represented in the food kingdom. blueberries. thats pretty much it for blue food. and usually they are purple anyway.
putting potato chips in a peanut butter and jelly sandwich makes it 10000 times better. you should try it sometime.
you're definitely seen one up close.
Evan,quit displaying this horrific photo,please!
Why? Does it offend you? perhaps you feel some guilt for supporting the devils that do that kind of thing. I doubt it.
No,but your right-wing comments do,Phunnie boy!Are you too yellow to use your own name,or what?I'm a little curious.
I find your comments disturbing 'Bledsoe' you seem to have a distorted sense of right and wrong, a picture offends you but the act of mutilation it would appear is ok. You are a sick and twisted individual.
Quite a pretty gal.I'd like to share her with my Tea Party friends!
Why am I not surprised?You right-wing Tea Partiers all think alike!
Moowwwwwwwwwwwwww where all thous as hole Hindu who they spouse to worship me they do not clean my stool now and spend hours on chating on the internet i will punish them and gore them in there a s s es with my horn
I long for the day when we finally nuke these Persian and Arab dogs. The muslim nations will soon go down in a bright flash, and things will be much more peaceful in the world. These nations offer the world nothing but death and misery. Once their stench is wiped clean the world will be better off.
Hae ! why you hate so much Terrible Ted ? I am not persian, neither arabic and don'tlike dogs. The true Islamic culture that you ignore has offered a lot to the world. Without their knoledge your America will never be discovered, so we will be forced to have in Europe people like you.
sorry for my bad english, but the little time available and the amount of the falsifications that I have to correct are working against the gramatics.
you are the real Yacobi, Yacobi superstar !
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Read "Caravans" by James Michener. Very insightful novel based on Afghanistan, its history, culture, and people. It was published in 1963 and he even predict the Soviet and the US invasions of Afghanistan. You can find many clues as to why we are in this mess even after 10 years.
Pakistan should not exist as a country, as it has no culture, tradition, history, language or any good purpose for existence.
so it should be divided into 3 parts, a good chunk should go to India. a small part including a sea port should go to Afghanistan and some part to Iran.
what do you get when you cross an owl witha bungee cord?
Ibokay. I don't know but does it go woo-wheeeeee!
Pakistan isn't going anywhere Mr Ram-Ram
You may now return to drinking your cow urine, rat milk, and dirty Ganga Water, in the meantime, I'll be enjoying a Pakola.
Cheers.
You ignorant idiot, you seems to be as someone mentioned an Arab-Pustun b****d. Check your masters doing with fresh camel dung. Search web for "fresh camel dung", you will see what your masters were doing, go and have some before you get senses you moron.
Hope you are not washed with pee from Kabul river.
Mulla Umar & their Men are those warrior.They will fight with US & Nato countries in AF till they leave the AF land & end this so called war on terror. We can see clearly how after 9 years US & Nato countries arguing Taliban to do peace talk a7 laid down arm, their causality increases day by day. US ON THE VERGE OF DEFEAT with their invasion in Iraq & AF
Oh theree you are,Phunnie boy.Thanks.
Where have all the Afghan warriors gone? Not to NATO,I hope, as they need to have their hidden agenda thwarted in the worse way.
taliban future = booooooommmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over againand expecting different results” – Albert Einstein
Candidate Obama, his Clinton era advisers, and sadly all too many others fail to recognize a web of inter-connected, persistent constraints, or given realties. One might label them as the “five cannots”: US/NATO cannot send 400,000 combat troops to garrison Afghanistan’s towns, hamlets and countryside (which is a pre-condition for reconstruction to win hearts and minds ); the US/NATO cannot impose a powerful central government upon Afghanistan ; the US/NATO cannot neutralize the very effective least-cost weapons of choice of the Afghan resistance (IED’s and suicide bombers); the US/NATO cannot seal the Afghan-Pakistan border and hence will not eliminate the vital sanctuary so necessary to a guerrilla movement); and lastly, the Pakistan government has never been able to dominate its vast tribal borderlands and there is no reason to believe such will change. Those who choose not to understand these “five cannots” advocate change in a vacuum. The present military impasse begets a political solution and the abandonment of any nation-building fantasy.
The perceived poison of a foreign occupation, the rampant corruption, the all-too-frequent desecration of Islam by the occupiers, the sheer folly of the US/NATO seeking to extend the writ of a central government into the Pashtun tribal regions, the spiraling count of civilian deaths has shifted the Afghan struggle towards being a war of national liberation. The presence of foreign forces is furthermore according to the United Nations’ senior expert on Al Qaeda (CIA created), providing the glue with which Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda network is bonding support in the region. Anatol Lieven of King’s College (London) puts things aptly. Afghanistan is
Becoming a sort of surreal hunting estate, in which the U.S. and NATO breed the very terrorists they then track down.
No matter that in Kabul even foreigners speak about being “inside a living hell.” No matter that veteran reporter Kathy Gannon notes that Afghans are fed up with the U.S. and Karzai. No matter that Karzai and U.S. bombs have transformed what was once a backward looking Taliban primarily espousing sharia into a thriving modern movement of resistance and national liberation. No matter that anti-Americanism is spiraling in Pakistan as U.S raids take place. Obama and McCain propose dusty death without end in Afghanistan. And you wonder where their warriors are...!!!
Very Well said.
Pakistan is the main issue and Pakistan is problem for all countries.
not a sheeple:
Very well written and your argument is very thoughtful. Could you please write with less flamboyance and more conciseness. That way you could get your points across in a way that is accessible to many and not just those able to understand your superior prose and sophisticated vocabulary. Also, you would save your readers a lot of time.
I really appreciate free, succinct, rielable data like this.
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i just ate a june bug.
Were we suppose to be impressed with the choice of words you have strung up together to undermine what the US and the rest of the civilized world is trying to do in Afghanistan? (rhetorical) No I was not impressed! In fact you sound amature at best madame! There are evil people in the world and evil thrives when good men do nothing. It's so easy to hate on the U.S. if only every Country can truly say they are the "Land of the free and home of the brave" Freedom and bravery have shaped the U.S.
Good post. We will break our dick on the rocks of Afghanistan for another 2 years, call it done and perhaps find a new country to murder. The campaign of endless war and endless war profiteering will continue as long as the Chinese (and our grandchildren) will finance our deficits.
What, is that supposed to be funny, the snarky postings? Please. Go find a sandbox to go play in, babies.
By warriors, I assume you mean honorable men who fight for a justified cause and are willing to give up their lives in pursuit of a higher and more noble goal. The so-called "warriors" of the Taliban are opportunistic and hypocritical thugs who hide behind a mask of piety in order to kill as many men, women, and children as they can before going home to chop their wives' heads off for being late with dinner. Most of the higher-ranking Taliban wouldn't die for Allah...they'll brainwash naive young men into doing their dirty work. They may be formidable opponents, but they are NOT warriors.
That about sums it up
Get off of it,Travis.You know better than that.Quit clowning around,will you?
gay.
"Most of the higher-ranking Taliban wouldn't die for Allah...they'll brainwash naive young men into doing their dirty work."
Well said Travis. There young, naive and easily manipulated. There going to be MARTYRS. There going to get their 72 virgins. Bwahahahahah. Yeah, RIGHT!!!! Look dummies, how stupid can you be? Your leader, Osama Bin Coward wouldn't do what he wants you to do. He's waaaaay too valuable to go to paradise, just yet (according to him). Allah wants him to stay here on earth and 'fight" for the cause. Anybody want to buy a bridge? You're not going to Heaven and you're not getting any virgins, all you're going to be is DEAD, DEAD, DEAD. Non-existent. Outta here. You're not going to see your wife or children ever again. For that matter, you're not going to see anything ever again.
For the sake of argument, lets say there is a just God. Do you think any God is going to be happy with you killing innocent women and children? If there IS a just God, I fear for you. Instead of virgins it'll be "Do not pass Go, do not collect $200, go straight to Hell.
Most of the taliban are pakistani. The taliban was created by Pakistan's ISI (their equivalent of the KGB). All of the suicide bombing taking place in afghanistan and the surrounding region (including India) is due to fundamentalist Pakistanis. The ignorant and crazy fundamentalist Pakistani people need to be investigated as they are the most likely agents of the acts of terror in the region and perhaps abroad as well.
well said.
Very well said my brother.
Someone should stupid These stupid Pakistanies.
Pakistan = Terrorists !!
Pakistan wake up before it's too late !!!
Pakistan is known as terrorists country/location right now and 75% world wide knows it, before it becomes 100% pakistan should stop doing all these BS !
Hope Pakistan understand this and stop killing innocent people else someone will use Nuclear bomb on Pakistan and clean Pakistanies from the earth.
you know whats gross? mayonaise on french fries. don't do that.
mmmmm. Mayo on French Fries!!! It's like Potato Salad that's been fried! Then sprinkle a little Sugar on it! Gross, but oh so yummy! nyom nyom nyom!
Riza, Pakistant already has the nuclear bomb. You can't threaten a country with someting, when they can return the favor...
The Taliban has existed in Afganistan for hundreds of years...the British and Russians fought them in the 18th and 19th Centuries...they were and are Fundalmentalist...shuned by most and intimidate the weak. They have been and are a scourage on Afganistan.
NOT JUST PAKISTANI, BUT SUPPORT FROM IRAN, IRAQ, SYRIA, YEMEN, SAUDI, AND MOST LOCAL AFGHANS. THE WAR IS OVER; LET US LEAVE AND PAY THEM THE $350M BILLION IN WAR DEBT TO FIX THERE COUNTRY. IT IS MUCH CHEAPER THAN STAYING. USE OUR INTEL TO CONTROL INSIDE COUNTRY.
They are all down at Danny K's throwing back some homemade brew and smoking their hashish.
LMFAoff!
They have gone to Pakistan....who do you think are doing all those suicide attacks??