June 22nd, 2010
05:51 PM ET
Latest McChrystal developments
Follow the latest developments involving Gen. Stanley McChrystal, America's top commander in Afghanistan, at CNN's This Just In. McChrystal and his staff made comments in a Rolling Stone article that appear to mock top civilian officials, including Vice President Joe Biden, and has spurred questions and debate around the world as well as a comment on the general's "poor judgment" by President Obama.
I love my country which includes my president and vice president. We do live in a free country, but there's a major difference betwwen expressing rights and downright heretical dogma that belittles the White House. What other countries must think of us saddens me. The General is such a right wing unamerican. How does he live with himself?
You obvously didn't read the article.
And other countries can think what they want. I don't dedicate my life to ensuring that my lips are planted on a pair of foreign buttocks. WHO CARES what the other countries think of us? What does it matter? Are we going to get invited to teh NATO prom?
This man did everything he can. He spoke his mind and did not agree with his leader. Democratic lefties always whine and cry about "freedom of speech" until someone says something you don't like, then you're ready to heap burning coals on their tongues.
I am amazed you used the word "heretic". Have fun with your lynch mob and pitchforks.
The sad truth is, this is the man who had the cajones to say what he though, actively went on combat patrols with his troops (I don't even think Obama has eaten with troops), and stated things the way they were. Obama said he'd listen to his commanders on the ground, but now this little act has caused the president to get upset.
WAR is ugly. It is nasty. Do not buy a mean junkyard dog if you intend to keep it on a 3-foot chain in the garage. This man knew what he was doing, tried to tell the administration that, and what did they do? The kept him from doing what had to be done countless times, and it is getting soldiers killed.
I love my country, too. So did this man. If you can speak of him the way you have done, he can speak any way he wants. Freedom is freedom, it doesn't apply only to the people who say and do nice things you agree with.
Welcome to America, lady. The apple pie is next to the beer.
The General is setting himself up for Prime Time with the Tea Party. Think about it. He hates NObama and knows him first hand. He's a Patriot where NObama isn't even a Citizen of the US, but he has to salute him just because he's Pres. The Gen has earned respect, NObama is a clown, as the Gen says. I'd love to see the Gen quit then run in November on a ticket somewhere as an Independent so he can get into Congress and call NObama the liar he is.
One of the big problems here today is not that McChrystal thinks this current administration hasnt a clue as to what they are doing. Anyone with half a clue can see that we didnt need to hear it from Rolling Stone. Obama's priorities arent in check.....weve got two wars going on, a horrible unnatural disaster going on in the Gulf of Mexico and hes more concerned with suing Arizona!!! The second problem is the media...take the media out of this war and let the military do there job and get everyone home. This isnt a reality show..its a war!!
NObama is suing AZ because HE's an illegal alien himself. He's just hiding under all those Mexicans. Second, he's selling out America to the Islamics by shutting off all our Gulf Oil. Third, he's burying us in debt to the Saudis at their request. And you think the General has problems? Just wait til all those chickens come home to roost – to paraphrase NObama's "spiritual leader".
I will end up paying for this one but, kick Obama in the teeth, get that traitor out of office. Leave McChystall where he is & take away all these political constraints & let the man & his men go win this war & get it over with. Believe me there will be another war soon.
May GOD bless & keep us all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We can develop this develoment into three parts
1> Policy Division within White House (Clinton and Obama)
2> Pro Karzai and Pro Anti Karzai movements in Afghanistan (Ekenberi and Mcrystal)
3> Karzai has lost his right arm and the spirite of Obama strategy has gone
We are still living with the results of one coup~ the election results of 2000, an economic coup~which led to the unraveling of regulations, civil rights, and an unprecedented concentration of wealth into the hands of the few. This kind of situation is never sustainable, as history has shown~ things fall apart. But usually before all hell breaks loose, the the military steps in to do the bidding of those in power. President Obama has been fighting to reverse all the damage that Bush did. This includes a war we should never have waged. In looking at all these events together, one cannot help but see a bigger and more frightening picture, especially with the tea party and Palin people. I smell civil war and I have for a while. What to do about the General? I feel whatever happens, what ever comes about tomorrow, it will be bad and have long reaching consequences, keeping in mind what I just alluded to.
This is a big disaster, even a better end to coalations and NATO in Afghanistan, but what is interesting, that is if there is someone to ask from W Bush about this latest developments.
Gen. McChrystal should immediately be forced to resign in disgrace. Gen. McChrystal's shake and bake Afghanistan troops and regional governors in Marjah (the first test) was not a lasting success, it was a failure! The UK and NATO commanders from day one stated the 'shake and bake' strategy would FAIL.
The troops under Gen. McChrystal are very unhappy with Gen. McChrystal's rules of engagement (ROE's) and want Gen. McChrystal to resign immediately.
The in-depth Rolling Stone article indicates Gen. McChrystal's own staff strongly dislikes the commander in chief (President Obama), and thinks very ill of Obama's staff, cabinet members and even the Afghanistan US Ambassador himself. The only person Gen. McChrystal liked in the current administration was Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Gen. McChrystal's staff are simply echoing how their boss is saying everyday among them and should be pushed to resign immediately and be pushed into retirement in disgrace thereafter.
Gen. McChrystal's remarks and those of his own staff could easily be seen as utterly treasonous. Such remarks encourage a military coup and President Obama should bear that in mind and fire Gen. McChrystal or accept his resignation immediately.
I like your posting, Smith in Oregon~! I, too am in the NW. I read your postings on other forums.
He should be fired for stating what every single person in uniform knows? Civilians in Washington have no idea what they are talking about and need to realize that this war is not winnable. There is no specific enemy or goal to attain. We are basically acting as police over there.
I just wonder if Gen.McChrystal already has his eye on the Presidency for 2012.It would be a very good strategy to get fired now and then run against Obama on the platform that he would be the one to achieve a military victory there.But all that remains to be seen.
I disagree, especially seeing as when the election comes around the real issue will not be the war as much as it's the economy,
I'm glad our upper leadership have finally voiced th opinion of the men and women in uniform. I curently serve and reciently came home from afghan.... THE GEN. WOULD HAVE MY VOTE FOR PRESIDENT
What happen to freedom of speech? I know that we are not even going to win this war. The United states and the world have to remember that the Middle East have been fighting since mankind was put on this earth. Gen. McChrystal said what he felt. So now everyone in this country wants to go back to the 16th century. If i said what i felt. Will the U.S.
government come after me? All they want is the oil that's in the Middle East. Also try to keep its troops in Afghanistan. Mankind is the destroyers of this earth and to its own. Whatever natural disasters happens to this planet. Mankind can be the one to blame. Isn't anyone tired of killing one another. Do anyone understands the word PEACE.
Washington Post: Is Gen. Stanley McChrystal someone the president can afford to fire?
Not unless Obamao wants to take that role himself....Oh yeah, he doesn't have ANY military experience either. Do we know from the free lance hack @ RS that Gen. SM made all of the comments or were they the brainfarts of battleweary "unnamed" aides?
Advice to the POTUS: Quit acting like a frat boy who's just been dissed. You and Biden need to grow a pair and some thicker skin. Let this American patriot go do what he's is trained to do. Oh, and Gibbs: Time to tweeze that dberry from your left nostril.
The freedoms of the US are secured by our military. No one else. Think about that and our troops on the wall – all of them – when you consider slapping them around.
what happen to freedom of speech. I know that we are not going even going to win this war. The United states and the world have to remember that the Middle East have been fighting since mankind was put on this earth. Gen. McChystal said
what he felt . So now everyone wants to go back to the 16th century. If i said what i felt will the government going to come after me. All the U.S wants is the oil in the middle East. The Phophecy shall be fulfilled.
What happened to free speech? Easy, he's a member of the Armed Forces of the United States. He doesn't get the luxuries that normal people do. You sign away your rights as a human being, and become the long arm of the US Government to enforce rules and regulations a WORLD AWAY.
Freedom of speech is fine, and Gen. McChrystal is free to express his thoughts and feelings on any and everything however he sees fit, but just like everyone else he must be held accountable for his actions. That's like you going into work and saying "F*** this job my boss sucks and he's stupid and incompetant and that's how I feel" and not expecting to be fired. Furthermore Gen. McChrystal must be aware of how his statements directly impact those that he is responsible for leading. To criticize not only the strategy, but also the Commander in Chief and other key members of the diplomatic staff, is undermining his own leadership. I think what makes this such an issue is not even what Gen. McChrystal said, as much as it's the venue he used to express these beliefs. As a general and key cog in the sustained operational success of the Afghanistan War, Gen. McChrysthal should have utilized other channels to express his opinions.
The article in Rolling Stone had a quote from a retired colonel which was the only voice of sanity in the entire discussion:
"The entire COIN strategy is a fraud perpetuated on the American people," says Douglas Macgregor, a retired colonel and leading critic of counterinsurgency who attended West Point with McChrystal. "The idea that we are going to spend a trillion dollars to reshape the culture of the Islamic world is utter nonsense."
Neither McChrystal nor any other military leaders, nor Obama nor any other civilian leaders have any idea about Islam and the role that the doctrines of Islam play in the minds and hearts of the people of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan. MacGregor is absolutely correct. We should not expend any more American lives and treasure in trying to do the impossible. Any policy based on winning the hearts and minds of a Moslem population is doomed to failure. We should get out - and be prepared to go back in only if they start setting up training camps for Islamic terrorists like they had under the Taliban before we routed the Taliban over eight years ago. It is not in our interests to prop up another Islamist regime which is what the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan is.
While it is true that this is a foolish endeavor – trying to change the Islamic world, it is NOT true the NObama knows nothing about this. He was born and raised in the Muslim world. For the first 6 years of his life he attended a Madrassa and was indoctrinated into Islam early on. If you take the Islamic view of America, then, NObama is doing exactly what is necessary to weaken America at every turn, IN FAVOR of Islam. First there was the "health care" plan which will bury us in debt to Saudi Arabia. Then there was the elimination of "dont ask dont tell", which will weaken our military's morale, now there is the elimination of the Gulf oil program which will drive us deeper into dependency on Saudi.
NObama knows EXACTLY what he's doing, and its all in favor of Islam taking over America and the rest of the world.
you = lunatic