June 20th, 2010
09:57 PM ET
soundoff (61 Responses)
  1. Daniel-2

    So Eric, you are from the UK are you...just my two bobs worth...

    June 23, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jaybob

      You know, manure usually causes some of the flashiest fruits to flourish as well.

      June 23, 2010 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        "flashiest fruits" need sunlight to flourish...whereas mushrooms like you "flourish" in darkness.....

        June 24, 2010 at 2:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        I'm off to see the wizard the wonderful wizard of oz.

        June 24, 2010 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Eric = fail.

        June 26, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      So is Roy by the looks of it...

      June 24, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Your Tea Party lingo gives you away,Daniel-2.

      June 28, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
  2. robroy

    Sounds like a few of you Rambo wannabes are a little irritated? A little salt on your stars and stripes paper when you must have been giving that perfect thing a wipe EH!!!! Hey jay bob, your remarks about our fallen soldier, typical yankism as we igloo boys call it up here. At least we have the decency to take a moment each time one of our boy's has fallen. You folks don't even mention your fallen on your major networks. Why's this gentlemen? To you folks a fallen soldier is just a number and speaking about numbers, not only are you screwing up in Afghanistan, your military establishment can't even keep the numbers straight at your holiest ground. Check the news stories about Arlington. Apparently the news story out now is that your General McChrystal, the top dog in Afghanistan, is just about to get himself put in the dog house by the big boy in the White House. How is my grammar now, boys? Eh?

    June 22, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eric

      Don't let Jaybob or J (as he starts to call himself now) bother you. He and his mate Steve are members of the mushroom club. Just as mushrooms thrive in the dark and are fed crap to grow, these mushrooms thrive on being kept in the dark and fed crap the the embedded (in bed with the army) media.

      June 23, 2010 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Jaybob

        I have only one name on this site. Jay is a person who has actually been on here longer than I, by several years. I find it hilarious that the lefties always reach for name-calling and personal insults whenever they don't agree with someone. It's so cute- "you don't agree with me, so you are stupid! Nya Nyaa!"

        Such funny kids you are. Foreigners whose only problem with the war is that it occupies your news channels. Find a new show or something if you don't like it. It's not like any of you are fighting in it.

        June 24, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  3. J

    I can't even finish reading your comment due to the grammar mistakes. I'm no grammatical expert...but you don't even make an effort. Based on your errors, I'm gonna have to assume that you are a 14 year old who doesn't really know squat about anything, had a bad high while smoking weed, and is now spouting off your "revolutionist" anti American nonsense.
    Whether or not your post has merit is left to be seen(by someone else who can tolerate that hodgepodge)...but here's a bit of advice: It would do your point justice, if your writing reflected the thoughts of someone who actually attended an educational establishment(elementary or otherwise).
    Again, I am no grammatical expert, but your post was just...shudder*.

    June 22, 2010 at 7:05 am | Report abuse |
  4. J

    I love how Roy shut his mouth after getting schooled by JayBob, and then quietly let it all roll under the carpet.
    Still reading everyone's comments and will get down my opinions asap.
    Just had to comment after having a good laugh.

    June 22, 2010 at 6:54 am | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Roy has many other names, AKA Daniel-2 and amusingly Anabel!

      June 22, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        And so do you,Funny boy,AKA Ernie Beatty,for starters among many others.In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if you were using Iraq Paramedic.Isn't it kind of a sick to make a joke out of this war the way you do?????

        June 22, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Roy

        J is Jaybob.....he is just trying to flatter himself...

        June 23, 2010 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      J,are you real or just another one of Funny boy's aliases???This is getting quite interesting,indeed!

      June 22, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Daniel-2

        Missed by a mile...

        June 23, 2010 at 7:57 am | Report abuse |
  5. Smith in Oregon

    Yes America can definitely meet it's July pull-out of Afghanistan deadline. And the American Taxpayers are only too happy to see the Army come back with nearly ALL of the taxpayer provider US Military equipment which is in place in Afghanistan rather than a mass dump and leaving most of the US equipment and vehicles in Afghanistan as a free gift to the Taliban that will quickly seize them. The American taxpayers shouldn't be forced into replacing nearly ALL of the equipment used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    June 22, 2010 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
  6. robroy

    hey detective jaybob,i'm not a limey but i'll give you one big clue,we supply you folks with alot of that black stuff that keeps your military machine GOING[as a matter of fact we supply more than even the saudi's] yeh jaybob look up it's us crazy Canucks. while i'm commenting to you gungho rambo readers,we just lost another soldier to YOUR fight 140 some soldiers killed and 20 billion dollars for a country of 33million is a pretty good sacrifice.oh by the way jaybob you made the comment that the uk let's in fanatics,you seem to forget that some of the badboys of 9/11 were taught to fly in the good ole usa!!!!you boys talk about nuken them,well you better do a real good job because if one of them is left with a briefcase full of money and a camel he'll ride over to one of the former soviet republics and get one of those surplus nukes for himself and we all know whose backyard will have the crosshairs on it

    June 21, 2010 at 10:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jaybob

      Oh, a Canadian? Do they have schools there? TYPE COHERENTLY.

      I thought Canada asked to be in on this. They are usually really helpful in combat zones, I worked with some before. Nice fellas. Nice lodges, too.

      Anyway, I'm not very concerned about how you feel. You lost ONE soldier. How many have we lost in this fight? You don't see us backing out. If it bothers you so much, change the channel. Dancing with the Stars or Kate Plus 8 should be horrifying and traumatizing enough to keep you off these boards and still give you something to scream about.

      June 22, 2010 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  7. HunterPSU

    comparing the rig deaths to soldiers deaths in afghanistan was not exactly worthwhile effort. How about how many murders have occurred in Chicago over that same time frame. Or NYC or many other large cities in the USA. Drugs wars, gang bangers and others are creating a much bigger war in the USA than many realize. Good luck to our soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq. Keep up the good fight and stay safe.

    June 21, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
  8. T.J.

    get the troops out of Afghanistan and then nuke the whole toilet of a country. why should we care about the fate of Afghan people anyway? what have they ever done for us? if you don't want to nuke them then just leave, let them kill each other and starve to death. my point is nobody in the U.S. should give a darn about foreigners, it is all about us, not them.

    June 21, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  9. robroy

    nice comments JAYBOB,it's people like you that make the teary eyed go to the crapper with their roll of stars and stripes toilet paper and stare at their uncle sam's wallpaper.you said in military rant to"humiliate them in public and then execute them". does the same go for your men in women in uniform if their captured?remember one thing JAYBOB this is your fight,not OURS!!! it was YOUR buildings in YOUR country that this started but yet YOU folks dragged the rest of us into YOUR problems.you talked about YOUR military might but 10years later YOUR troops along with nato members that were dragged into YOUR fight are still chasing those bad boys around those mountains in afghanistan for many more years to come

    June 21, 2010 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
    • Roy

      Very soon instead of the US military might we will see the US military flight!!!

      June 21, 2010 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Daniel-2

        How would you feel about a 'flight of drones'?

        June 23, 2010 at 8:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Jaybob

      Okay, you aren't an American. It's okay, nobody is perfect.

      You shouldn't be concerned, none of the other parts of NATO seem to be.

      Capture, execute, and Humilate coalition Forces? The Taliban would NEVER do anything like that. I heard they have cookies and prayer time for captured Americans.

      If it's "MY" fight, then let me have "MY" opinion on how I would do it "MY" way. I mean, if you're from the UK... I think you'd be concerned as well. You guys can't keep fanatics out of your countries.

      June 21, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Onesmallvoice

    Every available drone not needed to on the boarder with Pakistan should be providing 24/7 cover over Kandahar, the taliban should fear being watched from above.

    June 21, 2010 at 8:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Roy

      The Taliban are very ingenious.......the drones are no challenge to them. They've shot down a good couple of these drones......

      June 21, 2010 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        I hope you're right,Roy.

        June 21, 2010 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.

        Is that why they are losing so many of Their Leaders???

        June 21, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Roy... No challenge? The drones are the biggest thing that the cowardly Taliban fear. Ask all the killed militants and Taliban leaders in Pakistan if the drones weren't a challenge.

        If our military wasn't so concerned about "civilian casualties" (that your cowardly Taliban hide behind), we would have drones everywhere and the Taliban would be killed daily trying to plant bombs.

        June 21, 2010 at 3:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • Roy

        The drones have killed more civilians than Taliban leader and militants. These drones have missed their targets miserably and are not effective without intelligence in the ground. The Taliban leadership of both Pakistan and Afghanistan is intact which explains the escalating insurgency!!

        June 22, 2010 at 3:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Just how are the taliban shooting down Drones, what weapon do they have that will shoot something down that's up to 8 kilometers away?

        June 22, 2010 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Oh sorry, sorry. Roy must be an operator of the drones. And at the same time he's probably the one shooting them down with laser beams from his eyes. Whatever he says is obviously right... I mean, he just provides so much proof and evidence of what he says.

        June 22, 2010 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        Onesmallvoice......the Taliban have acquired some anti-aircraft capabilities.

        June 23, 2010 at 9:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Did you get that on your jihad-is-awesome website too, Eric? What's next? The Taliban developed inter-galactic laser beams that will hit anywhere on Earth?

        June 23, 2010 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        No mushroom ......they developed "inter-galactic laser beams that will hit anywhere" in the Universe. Don't use words like "inter-galactic" if you don't know what they mean.......just confirms your ignorance by being kept in the dark and fed crap!!!

        June 24, 2010 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        I'm a little teapot short and stout here's my handle here's my spout.

        June 24, 2010 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Yeah, i have seen the pictures of those 'drones' that were shot down, some of them have a wingspan of nearly eight feet!

        June 24, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jesse Cook

      Hello.Funny boy,how do you do?

      June 21, 2010 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice


        June 22, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Ernie Beatty

    Hopefully not!

    June 21, 2010 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Ernie Beatty

      Hey Funny boy,use your own name the next time you make a commet here instead of mine!!!I I happen to be a Tea Partier and proud of it!!!

      June 21, 2010 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Jerry

        That's teiing him,Ernie!!!Don't let him get your goat.

        June 21, 2010 at 1:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Larry Valecia, Calif.

        That is your problem not ours... The Majority of the People know you are all crazy!!!

        June 21, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Jaybob

    Well, here is my opinion-

    Deadlines are a bad thing. Putting "X Date" on a massive military operation isn't the right thing to do. Ideally, we stay until we get the job done.

    However, without a deadline there is a loss of support from the public both in the US and Afghanistan. The Taliban will hurt and intimidate innocent people until it looks like the solution to the problem has caused more damage than the original problem (Kind of like denying the enemy tactics combined with Mutually Assured Destruction).

    To have a light at the end of the tunnel, we need this:

    The US Government needs to stop tasking 20-something year old service members to be "ambassadors" to go out and "touch hearts and minds". The military is a killing organization, dedicated to using violence to defend our people and destroy our enemies. We do not train them to be Santa Claus and go out kissing babies. Let the military do their job and take out the enemy. Kill the bad guys, and kill them hard. If they run, chase them down and kill them. Bring in their key leaders and humiliate them and execute them once we get what information we need. Make the enemy fear us again. However, when politicians call the shots we can't do this.

    NATO operations need to have all of NATO on board. The US can't be the tip of the Spear, the shaft, and the guy pushing all the time while the rest of the world sits back and cheers. Tell the cheerleaders to lose the pom-poms and grab a gun, and do something.

    Rein in Pakistan by their short 'n curlies and tell them to get their act together. There are WAY too many inconsistencies with them, and they need to hurry up and help or start digging their own graves along side the Taliban.

    Stop giving a damn about the unhappy Afghanis. It's already common knowledge that every time we blow up some training camp or Taliban gun shack that they all start screaming "Americans Kill Our Family! They were Innocent". Stop giving a damn about the Tribal leaders who are sending their men to join the Taliban. Do what we are there to do.

    If nothing else, look Karzai in the face and say "If you want us to fix this, fine. If not, we'll go home. But the first peep of Terrorist Activity we hear from this region will result in us coming out of the sky like righteous gods of destruction and war, and the mountains will stand no taller than your ankle when the smoke clears and the ashes fall."

    June 20, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Roy

      Tough talk from a member of the crumbling empire!!! You obviously play a lot of video games. Well out there in Afghanistan there is no "video game" that is taking place on the ground. After over nine years your military is on the backfoot and the Taliban have become stronger and have a presence in over 80% of Afghanistan and that under the American/Nato watch. Get back to your video game JAYBOB instead of posting your two BOBS worth.

      June 21, 2010 at 9:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Jaybob

        Well, I'll give you a chance to not look like such a damned fool:

        1- Guess where I am at now? (Hint- I'm 8.5 hours ahead of the eastern US)

        2- I don't get to play video games very often.

        3- A lot of people wear the same outfit I wear when I work.

        4- I've met some of these reporters.

        And Roy, it's funny you call this a "Crumbling Empire". Countless people flock to this country every year in hopes of opportunity.

        How about you go back to pitching Zeitgeist and consiracy theories. I'll play video games when I feel like it.

        And I'll have you know that "My military" is probably "your military" as well. And we damned sure aren't on the backfoot. I mean, we're not the ones hiding in the mountains....

        June 21, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        I agree with Jaybob on all the accounts of his first post.

        Roy is an anti-American fool. I'm not sure if this guy is American, but if so... he should be ashamed of himself.

        June 21, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jaybob


        Thank you. Roy is obviously someone who spends his days "on that bandwagon" of quasi-revolutionaries and (in)activists who spend most of their time blabbering.

        And Roy, for you:

        "Peace is not the absence of violence, but the presence of justice" -MLK

        "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "- John Stuart Mill

        I do not want innocent people hurt. I wish the Taliban would walk out and say, "you know what? This sucks. How about we just have a barbecue and talk about making this better before we kill anyone else?" Hell, president Obama took a Volatile situation between two men and sat them down with beers and talked about it. That is proof this world isn't doomed. I wish the enemy we fight now would do that.

        June 21, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        Hey Steve, you've got another member to your mushroom club.....Jaybob is very vigorously giving his two bobs worth in this post....his comments show that, just like you steve, he is in the dark and fed crap.....Jaybob, the fight with the Taliban is not in the mountains buit in the population centres. The Taliban are the Afghan population and the Afghans want ALL foreign forces out of their country.........Coalition soldiers are being killed in increasing numbers just look at the casualty numbers month on month, year on year. Wake up you guys of the mushroom club and see the light!!!

        June 22, 2010 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Steve

        Eric... we don't believe blatant lies like you do. You've been on record for weeks now... quoting Taliban sources with such obnoxious figures like "60 NATO soldiers killed, 12 tanks destroyed, 80 ANA killed all in one day"... and that is simply wrong. You get your "information" from pro-jihad websites, and claim that you're an Afghani. I've refuted your points several times, only for you to ignore me and say something about being in a mushroom club.

        What I'd like for you to answer me now is this... if NATO leaves with their tail between their legs (which is what you are obviously cheerleading for)... what do you think is going to happen to YOUR Afghanistan? Do you honestly think there will be peace and harmony in Afghanistan? You think the fighting and killing is going to stop? The Taliban is a loose set of many groups that will splinter and fight each other once NATO leaves. Al Quieda will creep back in and begin intimidating people. Not to mention the leftovers of the Afghan government will form their own groups and fight... this is all if NATO leaves in haste... and this is something YOU want for Afghanistan? You claim your an Afghani (a claim I still doubt). But if so, enjoy 30 more years of war, Eric.

        June 22, 2010 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Jaybob


        Mushroom club? I am confused. I used to not like mushrooms, honestly... but now I have started to enjoy them in some of my meals. So... what is this supposed to mean? I am so confused right now.

        If you're getting your numbers from Jihad websites, you are retarded. everyone knows those guys lie. Like the recent attack against the air base in kandahard that "killed hundreds of soldiers and destroyed many helicopters"... when it was only like 10 guys who attacked the base and got shot before they could even get near the wire. I think a few people had minor injuries and one dude died. I'll have to look that up.

        Anyway, FYI-

        Soldier death rates do not differentiate between accidents, illnesses, etc.

        Casualties do not mean "death", they mean someone was taken out of the fight- the flu or a cold can make someone a casualty on paper. It's a catch-all term that means "he can't operate at full capacity now".

        And I'm sure we'll see the light soon enough. I hear there are plenty of lights flashing and making noise on the Taliban leaders. would love to watch that.

        June 22, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eric

        Jaybob/Eric..you guys are really in the dark and fed crap. Here is an assessment from a respected US General Barry McCaffrey and see the casualty figures he is reporting (300 to 500 killed per month) Wake up mushrooms and see the light, the Afghans want all foreign forces out of our country NOW!!!

        Many more soldiers are killed than what is reported. Read this assessment from Gen. Barry McCaffrey: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/01/army_casualties_010410w/

        Americans should prepare to accept hundreds of U.S. casualties each month in Afghanistan during spring offensives with enemy forces.
        The dire forecast was made by retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey, an adjunct professor of international affairs at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, in a periodic assessment of political and security issues he has conducted in the war zone since 2003.
        “What I want to do is signal that this thing is going to be $5 billion to $10 billion a month and 300 to 500 killed and wounded a month by next summer. That’s what we probably should expect. And that’s light casualties,” said McCaffrey, who is also president of his own consulting firm in Arlington, Va., and has conducted numerous trips to the war zones to assess the political and military challenges at hand.
        McCaffrey, a three-time recipient of the Purple Heart medal who also earned the Distinguished Service Cross twice during combat in Vietnam, told Army Times that “people are shocked when I add the numbers up,” but what he’s discussing, he said, is not significantly higher than what is being suffered by U.S. in Afghanistan now.
        His reports are compiled with information gathered in theater and from research conducted beforehand. McCaffrey traveled to the war zone for this report as an academic from West Point at the invitation of theater commander Gen. David Petraeus, commander of Central Command, and Gen. Stanley McChrystal, the operational commander in Afghanistan, he said.

        June 23, 2010 at 3:02 am | Report abuse |
  13. F.KLOCK


    June 20, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • David Darling

      lol, stupid of you.
      You are just writing all these BS coz you are right now setting on your comfy chair.
      The other day if another 9/11 happens and you lose one of your family member, then u will start BS again to go there and finish terrorists!

      you are just coming from nowhere and starting BS.
      Just stop it and educate yourself little bit.

      June 21, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  14. F.KLOCK


    June 20, 2010 at 11:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry Valecia, Calif.

      At Least Obama is doing His best to finish both wars when He said He would do them... It is up to Iraq and Afghanistan if it will happen when He wants!!!

      June 21, 2010 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Larry Valecia, Calif.

      UN Watch Rips UN Human Rights Council for
      "Year of Inaction & Double Standards"

      Click Here to Watch Video

      As the UN Human Rights Council completed its 4th year, delegates heard testimony from UN Watch on the past 12 months of council reactions to violations worldwide.

      The Past Year: Inaction and Double Standards
      UN Human Rights Council, 14th Session,
      Delivered by Executive Director Hillel Neuer, 15 June 2010

      Mr. President, in Article 1 of the Vienna Declaration, the States assembled here committed to protect all human rights. Is the Council living up to this obligation? Focusing thematically on the right to life, let us consider one example from each of the past 12 months:

      • June 2009—Tehran. Hundreds of thousands gather peacefully to protest a questionable election. The government responds with brutality. Dozens are killed, hundreds injured, thousands arrested.
      • July—China. Troops fire on Uighur protesters; 200 killed, 1700 injured.
      • August—Russia. Two aid workers killed in Chechnya, government complicity suspected.
      • September—Yemen. Government warplanes bomb a refugee camp, killing 80.

      This Council’s response? Silence.

      • October—Iraq. A terrorist attacks a mosque, killing the imam and 14 others.
      • November—The Phillipines. Fifty-seven opposition activists massacred.
      • December—Iran. Renewed protests meet with bullets, beatings and arrests; 10 killed.
      • January—Pakistan. One hundred and eighty-two civilians killed in 42 attacks.

      This Council’s response? Silence.

      • February—Afghanistan. A Taliban attack kills 18, injuring 32, including doctors.
      • March—Nigeria. 500 Christians slaughtered in religious killings.
      • April—Kyrgyzstan. Troops fire on demonstrators; 84 killed.
      • Finally, May. Libya executes 18 foreigners, without due process.

      Mr. President, faced with these and other gross violations of the Vienna Declaration, what was this council’s standard response? Silence. No resolutions; no urgent sessions; no investigations. Nothing.

      Yet two weeks ago, when Israel defended itself against violent Jihadists on the so-called humanitarian flotilla, we witnessed another standard—a double standard.

      Suddenly the council sprang into action, with an urgent debate, a resolution condemning Israel, and yet another investigation where the guilty verdict was declared in advance.

      Meanwhile, in this session, not a single resolution has been adopted for 191 other countries.

      Mr. President, is the right to life, as guaranteed under the Vienna Declaration, being protected?

      No—on the contrary. And millions of victims are paying the price.

      Thank you, Mr. President.

      Click H

      June 21, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • David Frust

      we sound boob the hills ans top of mtn.s in afgain for a week with b52 to make it harder on the enemy to get around and what happed tp naypam? if all else falls we sould desoty the pope crops and use a small nuke on them after we pull on troops out.

      June 23, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Yeah, boob the hills if you must but don't touch those pope crops.

        June 24, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |