May 24th, 2010
03:37 PM ET

More U.S. troops now in Afghanistan than in Iraq

For the first time since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the number of U.S. troops in Afghanistan has surpassed the number in Iraq.

As of Saturday, 94,000 U.S. forces were in Afghanistan and 92,000 in Iraq, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

The U.S. is reducing its presence in Iraq, as per its agreement with the Iraqi government and anticipates being down to 50,000 troops as of September 1, 2010, and all troops removed by the end of the 2011.

President Obama has increased the number of Afghan troops significantly, including adding 30,000 more troops by the end of the summer. Most of the troops are now in country.

The flip is occurring a little ahead of schedule. Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, had anticipated the balance tipping to Afghanistan by the summer.

soundoff (316 Responses)
  1. james

    essentialy this is what i belive it boils down to iraq was a responce to 911 where the wmd were thought to be all becuase of bad intel by great britian, russia the cia and isreal which are all our close allies. there was still crap their we had to do their becuase they were going and had the means to build wmds but we just jumped to gun a little so good for us were pecekeepers also they had a dictator warlord we got rid of and we installed a demcracy so goood for george bush efforts and screw the traiters and communits like obama that even cnn treats well

    December 8, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Cyrus Howell


    July 13, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cyrus Howell

      You don't think they were arrested and prosecuted do you? You're right.

      July 13, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Cyrus Howell

        There was not a peep out of the American Legion or the VFW when our government tried to kill the most decorated soldier of the Korean War. They may have been heros in the military, but all of them were cowards when this happened.
        Get me the names of the two CID men and I'll kill them myself. They were the worst cowards and traitors since Aaron Burr and John Willks Booth.
        You know why they did that? They did it for a pay check, a promotion and to assassinate the communist traitor Lt. Col. Anthony Herbert. The were as brain washed as you are cb.

        July 13, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  3. mary

    Look and the pictures of the men and women who gave it all, on this web site, really look at them– sons, daughters, husbands, wives,fathers, mothers, some one's loved one. Is it really worth it??

    May 27, 2010 at 11:07 pm | Report abuse |
  4. SNIPER1

    "It is a brave act of valor to condemn death, but where life is more terrible than death it is then the truest valor to dare to live."

    May 25, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
  5. ROY

    latest from the war front
    • 18 US-NATO soldiers killed in Farah
    • 5 British soldiers killed and a tank eliminate in Helmand
    • A dozen polish soldiers killed or wounded and a tank blown up in Ghazni
    • Bombings in Kandahar kill 6 Afghan soldiers, destroys 3 vehicles
    • American soldiers kill non-combatant civilian, hold 9 in Helmand
    • NATO military tank blown apart in Farah
    • Canadian military tank blown up in Kandahar
    • Landmine explosion kills 4 Afghan soldiers in Kandahar
    • American/Nato Oil tanker hits IED blast in Jalalababad city
    • French forces attacked in Sarubi
    • Blast blows apart US tank in Kandahar
    • US tank destroyed in Kunar
    • US-NATO armored tanks exploded in Logar
    • Taliban kill 7 Afghan police in Zabul
    • NATO tank blown up in Zabul
    • Police post overrun in Ghazni
    • US-NATO sustain deadly losses in Marjah yet again
    • NATO tank blown up in Zabul

    May 25, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kian


      May 25, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      If you want more of the same, go to TALIBAN PROPAGANDA WATCH...

      May 26, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • DavidH

      Like Marv said in "Sin City",:
      "I love hitmen. No matter what you do to them, you don't feel bad."
      It's a pity, but US soldiers are just hitmen for the largest mafia in the world.

      May 27, 2010 at 10:17 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Eric

    Taliban booby-trap kills At least 60 American soldiers in Ghazni amid operation al-Fath The incident came after a US local spy, who had been captured by the Taliban, led the American invaders to a deserted compound, as per instruction of Taliban, where about 4000 kg explosives had already been placed, on Tuesday morning (May 25). According to the report from Ghazni province, on the information of the captured spy, who, as had been instructed by Taliban, told the Americans that the Taliban leaders were holding a meeting in the stated compound, as a result, about 12 US helicopters approached stated area, 6 of the helicopters were hovering over the area, while the other 6 landed in the area. The report indicates the explosives detonated as soon as the American soldiers got into the mentioned compound, killing or wounding about 60 American terrorists including a few of their local interpreters, spies and Afghan soldiers.

    May 25, 2010 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Steve

      Wow really? That's UNBELIEVABLE!!!!11 What were the names of all those soldiers killed? What branch or division were they with?

      Really weird that the DoD hasn't annoucned the names yet. Also weird that local press of those killed weren't informed. With THAT many people killed... you think the families of those killed would say something about the attack! Or at the very least, you'd think they would be informed! You think there would be funeral arrangements or something! But yeah dude I'll TOTALLY trust your word, which comes from a pro-Taliban website. Yeah... like TOTALLY correct-o-mundo!

      May 26, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  7. ConcernedVet

    Every one needs to understand that their is a bigger problem then the number of service members bering sent overseas. Many of the service members are returning home receiving bad treatemnt from the Department of Veterans Affairs, and many veterans are dealing with Post Traumatice Stress Disorder (PTSD). Every one should read the article I have posted with this comment. Service members put their life in harms way expecting fair treatment when they return home and this is not the case. Please read this article this is the truth that many veterans face when they get back home. I have faced this same problem after serving my country for 15 years. Memorial weekend is almost here and many veterans will take their lives even though they are home safe, because of unjust treatment they are receiving from the government that they put thier lives on the lne for. Let us not forget those who have fallen making the ultimate sacrifice and those who are still suffering. OIF Veteran

    May 25, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Rita Keays

    I agree with you about our precious freedom. It has almost become a privledge rather than a right. I don't know how old
    you are but, I have been around since the war in Vietnam (another senseless killing field) and again it was something
    that the US should have stayed out of the ramifications of which cost so many lives. This is what I have to say about your last comment -It is very clear about how you feel about what is going on in Afganistan and I agree that I think that all governments of state should plan to pull out – but hitting below the belt as far as what they believe – really is NOT the answer. If you ask me it only adds fuel to the fire. It is the worst kind of prejudice there is. Our strength on this issue should be projected on heads of governments and not harbor iron clad hatred onto any sect of humanity.

    May 25, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Rita Keays

    Good Grief
    How many more must go down before we realize that this is the work of a few Psychopaths? My suposition on this
    is that the culprits are CIA agents gone renegade. Disgruntly. Passed Over – Demoted or even FIRED with all sorts of information under their hats. It is unfathomable that all of a sudden our pilots have become incompotent! Surly, they are not all taking flight stoned! THIS WAS NOT HUMAN ERROR. The sooner the authorities discover the culprits – the safer our lives here in the West and the lives of others in the East will become.

    May 25, 2010 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  10. Brian

    Its funny how poeple forget things so easily in this country. After a few years and a distraction called Iraq those people have lost the whole purpose of the conflict in Afghanistan. I say conflict because its really NOT a real war. A real WAR is fighting between two nations each with a military. The Nk SK issue could become a REAL WAR. This is just something we half to take care to ensure that terrorists don't have a place to train and hide in the Middle East. This kind of thing is exactly what the terrorists want. They want us to forget, grow tired, and move on. These people WON'T forget, its ingrained into thier way of life and until we help show them that there's more to life then fighting this will continue. The bottom line is those that want peace will live a better life while those that want war will get it and die in the process. You can have your 72 virgins or whatever kind of "Paradice" your religious leaders say you'll get, I'll take freedom here on earth any day...

    May 25, 2010 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
  11. Zeitgeist

    America.. YOU SUCK !!! I wish China would stop lending America money so it cant fund the war machine.
    Interesting to see how the Heroin fileds of Afganistan are still growing. More productive than when the Taliban destroyed it. Is the CIA the mafia or is it just me ? Hey THAILAND , BURMA, SUADI ARABIA, FIJI, SYRIA, TRIPOLI need to be attacked , they dont seem to have democracy , oh yeah , dont forget Gaddafi ya Tards !!!

    May 25, 2010 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
    • Brian

      Hey Zeitgeist! YOU SUCK!!!! First off the poppy fields growing in Afghanistan are cultivated by the Tailaban! How do you think they get thier money to fund this fight? The CIA has plenty more places to get money then there! If the CIA truly was doing what you think they are doing then they wouldn't have left in 1989 after the Soviets left. The REASON we are there is because of 9/11 moron! Do you think we'd waste our time in that poor practically worthless country otherwise? Why do you think Bush invaded Iraq instead? Because there's no profit in Afghanistan! It has nothing to do with democracy and everything to do with NATIONAL SECURITY! So how about learning a little about thier history before you make unfounded accusations!

      May 25, 2010 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Very well stated,Zeitgeist.

      May 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Anonymous

    What's the point of trying to prevent terrorist from attacking? They're bound to get to us somehow, and in some way. No matter what, this activity will go on. There's always a killing here and there. It's natural you can say. Can we all really live and peace and if so, just for how long until someone snaps? We're bound to fight, kill, go to war, whatever sooner or later. This is like trying not to disturb a pool of water. Which is pretty much impossible because there are many things that can disturb it. "We" can only do so much to prevent so little from happening. We just gotta face the fact that, we can't always prevent the things we dont want happening to happen. Look at Vietnam for an example. That war wast the longest war that we've ever been in. And why were we there? To preven the spread of communist into South Vietnam. And what happened when we left South Vietnam by itself? Got tooken over by Communist country North Vietnam. And that's what we were trying to prevent from happening but it stil happened. Just because we prevented one thing from happening doesnt mean that we can prevent everything else that's bad from happening. Its just too much. We're doing more than what we can actually do. Iraq, Afghanistan, preventing another War between N. and S. Korea, Oil spill in the Gulf, etc.

    May 25, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  13. Kevin M

    We cant help those who dont want to be helped. send our soldiers home, and put them were we actually need them.

    May 25, 2010 at 9:30 am | Report abuse |
    • MaryM

      Where do we actually need them? It's not the duty of the Active duty soldiers to protect our borders from immigration that is the job of the National Guard. If the president feels there is a crisis at home that warrants calling the National Guard he will until then they are needed to finish the job they started.

      May 25, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  14. Kevin M

    Afghanistan is where the war should have been fought in the first place, and i plan to be in the U.S Marines and some of my friends died in Iraq so i dont care what you think about the war, but support the soldiers.Soldiers dont start wars..politicians do, and if you do not stand behind the U.S Marines you're more then welcome to stand in front of them. We are attempting to rid the world of terrorists, and no matter what we do people will always find "possible alterior motives". Stop being paranoid, use yor liberities, Vote, be a good citizen. Thankyou soldiers ill be there soon. God bless, and Semper Fi.

    May 25, 2010 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
  15. MaryM

    we the willing lead by the unknowing
    are doing the impossible for the ungrateful
    we have done so much with so little for so long
    we are now qualified to do practically anything with practically nothing

    May 25, 2010 at 8:15 am | Report abuse |
  16. DavidH

    Afghanistan will be the death of the USA, just like it was the death of the Soviet union. Afghanistan:The graveyard of empires!

    May 25, 2010 at 4:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      No one has ever won a war there, have they? It's like Russia.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
  17. US infidal

    Thank you, most just call me ignorant. But I was taught there is always more than 2 sides to every situation and one should look at all sides. I truly feel for the people of war torn country and I know there are Americans dying in foreign countries for what the beleive in, their way of life, keeping the United States safe, and they took an oath to follow the instructions of their commander & cheif. However, none of this makes our presents in Middle-East right.

    May 25, 2010 at 3:56 am | Report abuse |
  18. US infidal

    Then why lie to the American People. And what gave DC the right to decide which country they should force into a democracy.They have no business or rights to ruling these people.

    May 25, 2010 at 3:39 am | Report abuse |
    • JmanH

      I couldn't agree more

      May 25, 2010 at 3:40 am | Report abuse |
  19. JmanH

    I love seeing how all of you argue about the same thing. but really, you are all the cause of this. Your President declared war on innocent people; You supported him; and now you are letting the new President take you for a ride even worse than the last one. Quit arguing with each other, and realize there are bigger problems on the home front. Realize there are bigger problems on your doorstep that can be solved by you, and only you as a collective. Once your problems with your country are solved, then start to attempt to solve other countries problems.(Saddam was a bad man, but he didn't bomb you, you all know who did)

    May 25, 2010 at 3:38 am | Report abuse |
    • US infidal

      What part of the world are you from? See we may believe we live in a democracy, reallly it is the capitalist who rule with their money, called special intrest groups, if the people vote something in, the government don't like then the subjest is taken to court where the government usually whens, maybe not during elections years but generally speaking. Our laws are made in Washington DC and our choice is to abide by them or pay the consequences.

      May 25, 2010 at 3:48 am | Report abuse |
  20. Buddy

    If the USA was really serious about "the war on terrorism" the Saudi royal family would be gone by now as well as several thousand Salafi maddrassas throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. Ever wonder why it was so important to impose "democracy" on Iraq yet it's perfectly acceptable to have a monarchy rule The Kingdom ( Saudi Arabia )?

    May 25, 2010 at 3:04 am | Report abuse |
  21. Insan Mukmin

    The Taliban will win and Western influence in the Middle East will wane. Victory will bring about a resurgent Islam chanelled by Iran, Syria and Turkey. Pro-Western dictators in Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, Somalia ,Yemen etc will crumble. Israel will have to give up its ambitions for a greater-Israel and return to its 1967 borders.

    May 25, 2010 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
    • JenniPoohBear

      Bwa ha ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hahaha haha! Dude, you need to wake up.

      May 25, 2010 at 3:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Actually, it's true.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  22. yarum mar

    Rule # 1 .. follow the money trail..

    May 25, 2010 at 2:35 am | Report abuse |
  23. Marcel tired of American neo-colonialism

    We went in Iraq looking for weapons of mass distructions...and we found none.
    We are in Afganistan to look for terrorists...and we keep on bombing innocent people...I an sure that in few months or years we will find out that there were no terrorists in Afganistan...same as Iraq.

    And where are the terrorists of the 9/11 from???
    From Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypy and Yemen...that are all USA allies!
    And why are we invading Iraq and Afganistan and not Pakistan or Saudi?
    Because they are 'allied' with they can keep on trainning terrorists without any problem.

    If we really want to fight terrorists, we should go to fight them where they really are, and not where we have economical interests to go.

    May 25, 2010 at 2:34 am | Report abuse |
  24. wyvern

    colonial minded leaders keeps the ball rolling.."the balance of human lifes and chaos on earth are on the hands of great nations and leaders, they keep it with outmost authority 'til we find ourselves that we're at the end of times"- lets build starwars!

    May 25, 2010 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
  25. mohad timory

    there are many people as you have seen on tv/news, heard, or became aware about by posting clips of killing Americans and other and then saying or yelling Allahu Akbar(god is great);my dear American people erase this mindset that these people are Muslims. just because you are born in a Muslim family, community, or belong to a family that has a Muslim ancestry, you don't automatically have the magic key to heaven and do whatever the hell you want. in short, just because you carry the label that you are a Muslim, doesn't mean you're actually a true Muslim.
    my e-mail is and send me your questions about whatever it may be and i'll give you an answer

    May 25, 2010 at 1:23 am | Report abuse |
  26. Rod

    So again where this leads us? Iraq, Afganistan.... Somalia... who's next Iran. There is always time to start a war but never had been a history where US end it right! I think they have to start pushing that pen and paper again and look at their strategies in what they call 'STOPING TERROR'.

    May 25, 2010 at 1:18 am | Report abuse |
  27. Abida

    It is simply STUPID to say that America was invaded by forces residing in Afghanistan and now America is reacting to that. This is simply untrue!!!

    Have you even experimented with a baloon? If you push one part of it you will see another part bulging out. If you are unable to correlate these two actions and reactions then you will be making comments like the ones I have seen here. Let me tell you what did the Americans do which invited 9/11 type reaction (which I don't support either):

    – America used Afghans and Muslims to defeat Russia and then abandoned them to fight for their survival.
    – America supplied arms and munition to Israel to butcher helpless Palestinians. Tanks & F16s are used to kill stone wielding young Palestinians and innocent children.
    – America supported dictators like Anwar Sadat, Musharraf and other regimes in the middle east to suppress Muslims

    and the list goes on.

    If you do that to Muslims and other people in the World what do you expect? Basically Americans did all this to Muslims and a few Zealots decided to teach back a lesson. But, Unfortunately, America is still not willing to learn from its mistakes.

    Look at this – the Greatest American Empire has taken 8 years to try to defeat "goat herders" (@Steve) and success is nowhere in sight. Resistance is increasing and morale of American soldiers is going down.

    Remember, Afghanistan is the GRAVEYARD OF EMPIRES. I am not saying that. History says that and History always repeats itself.

    Conclusion: Get off and Go Home if you want your empire to survive.

    May 25, 2010 at 1:12 am | Report abuse |
    • bongabhai

      Bravo. 100% true.

      May 25, 2010 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
  28. mohad timory

    i'm a muslim, am 22 years old and live in texas. first of all the, the most widely misinterpreted word "JIHAD" means to strife/to struggle; the American people are doing jihad every minute of the day; like struggling to pay their mortgages, striving to get their children through college,etc.
    USA is being run by the AIPAC(American Israeli Public Affairs Committee), the most influential, powerful, highest authority organization in the US, it has the final say in all matters concerning every aspect of our country, whether it is military aid, foreign policy, council of foreign relations, unimaginable, unprecedented support for Israel, I can go on and on and on...............
    My dear American brothers, sisters and scholars you can scold me as much as you want in the most aggressive outrageous manner as you want and please.
    US has not send troops to Afghanistan for peaceful and positive intentions, and for the better prospect of that country; to the contrary, the actual point of this is to increase troops and to build up and massive army to surround iran. the maint point of U.S is iran. not just from afghanistan, but from iraq and other arab and non-arab countries. but still it is problematic because iran has an army of 16-17 million basij(freedom fighters/volunteer fighters) that are not on payroll. besides from that, it has an army consisting of several thousands of troops known as the IRGC.
    U.S in the beginning had planned a ground invasion against iran but that it was impossible.

    May 25, 2010 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
  29. dorsano

    "More U.S. troops now in Afghanistan than in Iraq" – President Bush has been called to task many times over for the way he brought our country to war (justifiably so) – but he has not been recognized for the Status of Forces Agreement his administration negotiatied with the people of Iraq (something he didn't want to leave undone for the next president to be burdened with) – in that agreement his administration agreed to concrete timelines for withdrawal (most people remember the argument we had about that back here) – timelines for withdrawal that our country has adhered to – that agreement and our follow through earned the respect of a great many people in Iraq – I hope, for the sake of all those Americans who served there (and their families) that Iraqis will become a great nation with a government accountable to them.

    May 25, 2010 at 12:43 am | Report abuse |
  30. Carlos

    War is not a jobs program for the poor and middle class. The right wing Amerikan military is bankrupting the nation and making every Amerikan that supports or particpates in these wars a war criminal!

    May 25, 2010 at 12:35 am | Report abuse |
    • mary

      Amerikan?? reallly it's AMERICAN WITH A C.

      May 27, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Amol

    the terrorists are ready to reconcile if they have muslim nation troops there, why does't the wealthy countries like UAE, Saudi, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait ...all those oil rich countries, send their troops there? this is because they care more for their culture people. i.e Islam. They in a way want these terrorist to flourish, Iran and F Pakistan are still supporting the terrorist openly by funding them with money and arms.... I hope people realize whats the root cause of terrorism

    May 25, 2010 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
  32. dorothyof Oz

    So whats the point of ending one war if your gonna extend another?

    May 25, 2010 at 12:07 am | Report abuse |
  33. sdd


    May 24, 2010 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
  34. USAPeopleSick

    I assume, is already a lot of soldiers are addicted to drugs USA, probably the majority of the USA also has warmongering illness.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
    • keith

      Can you say that in English?

      May 24, 2010 at 11:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • mary

      what gives you the idea that alot of soldiers are addicted to drugs?? thats just silly!!!!

      May 27, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  35. keith

    I hope you don't really believe the sh!t you say! If the oil was all we wanted, it would be easy... we have nukes, they have sand... which turns to glass (aka bottled) at high temperatures. We had no business attacking Iraq, but we are there and need to finish the job. Iran is a bigger threat as it has been since they kidnapped 52 Americans in 1979. The Rockefellers have nothing to do with this.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      Funny you should mention Iran in 1979. I joined the Marines to go get them hostages back then. Where were you then? You forget world politics back then. The USSR were big obstacles then. Now they are our allies. What good does nuking the oil do if we can't use it for 50,000 years later when the radio activity dies down? You sound young.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      You don't know squat. The Rockefellers have everything to do with everything. They are "big oil" silly. With $110 billion, they have allot to do with everything.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • keith


      I remember the USSR and their idealist threats. I have never been a soldier, nor have I questioned the ideology of the American soldier, but I do have a right and responsibility to question the motives of the government. In Vietnam, the US people failed to distinguish the war from the warrior. That said, Iran has been a threat for thirty years and they will sell nuclear weapons to terrorist states.

      Thank you for your service.


      May 25, 2010 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
  36. rdg18

    Bush, send the troops home now!!!! Oh, Yeh, the liberals are in charge now. Now we can scream at the liberals/dems on being murderers.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      Eh, we deserve it.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Mark Nolan from Schuylerville, New York 12871

    It's such a comfort knowing that thousands of young American men and women are putting their lives on the line in Iraq and Afghanistan so that millions of illegal immigrants can sneak into the country they left behind in order that Big Business can make obscene profits. I hope the parents of those soldiers will at least consider that. You wanna lose your kid for that ? In 1969 my brother died in Vietnam but he didn't die for that.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      Sorry to hear about your brother. This might make you more mad at me but, he died for Coca-Cola, Hershey's Chocalate, Bell Helicopter, Kodak, Sunoco Oil and all the other American business interests we didn't want the North destroying when they invaded the south. I guess those interests were vital to our economy. Were Democracy the real cause, we would never have left the south to the fate of the Camere Rouge. Soldiers are idealistic as our early American patriots. But, our government isn't so noble. May he and every other fallen service man betrayed in peace. The fight is ours now to reign in our own terrorisitc government.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • mary

      my son went to iraq two times during his time in the service, my daughter, is also in the service can be deployed at anytime. It makes me mad to hear our congress man can jet himself and his girlfriend around at taxpayers expence but the millitary can't provide adaquate gear for thier protection, and adaquate medical when they return. i think if you bennifit from this war you should put your butt on the front line for an 18 month tour, and your 18 year old children too– they can go to college later. Bet that would put an end to the war real quick. It's not about finishing its about surviving

      May 27, 2010 at 10:10 pm | Report abuse |
  38. USA Army

    In Iraq and Afganistan, I argue that America and europe are the real teroris state, I think you'l agree.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • keith

      No, I don't agree. Americans didn't attack the Twin Towers, the Pentagon or the heroes in the field in Pennsylvania. The terrorists brought this war onto themselves, their countrymen and their families. THEY, and not the true believers of Islam and are our enemies. They must me destroyed. Our heroic troops, despite the failures in Washington (of this administration and the previous one) are doing just that.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • SilkyMcNasty

        Explain how the thermite got aboard passenger airliners then. The twin towers were brought down by The Government of the United States of America. Keep your research up with a discerning eye. I didn't want to believe it either. You will if you look enough though.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
      • keith


        You have revealed yourself as a conspiracy theorist. I will not argue. Tell Michael Moore, Fidel and the shooter from the grassy knoll I said hello!


        May 25, 2010 at 12:05 am | Report abuse |
      • SilkyMcNasty

        Would you imagine a true blue US Marine challenging his own government. Neither would I dig for the facts. Email me when you have and have come to a different opinion which I am sure you will. I am almost fifty now. I watched all through the hippy generation, Nam, Iran, Iraq, the Russians, the Vatican, our CIA, the KGB, Allende of Chile etc. Take it from a ring side witness...Henry Kissinger, George Bush senior (as junior is too stupid to know the plan) Benacke, every Rockefeller, every chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank since its conception, The council on foreign relations are the real threats to all humanity. The political smokescreen to inflame us is the CNN broadcasts but, the motives are well hidden. Calling those who expose these realities "conspiracy theorists" is exactly the plan to debunk those on the skunk's trail. LOOK, don't dismiss anything. LOOK, the truth is visible. Would I say something so rash if I did not see something you should also see? We need each other to see it all so that this thing can be appreciated for what it is /or in this case, what it is not. Trust expperience this time. I have some. I am not just flinging unfounded accusations.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
      • SilkyMcNasty

        "Conspiracy theorist" is accurate if it is only "theory". What do you call me when I have the proof? Conspiracy Confirmist?"

        May 25, 2010 at 12:29 am | Report abuse |
  39. keith

    Ben is on the mark. "WE" didn't choose this war, it chose us. Our elite military needs to chase our enemies wherever they are on the globe. I am an anti-war, pro-American. If you would run and hide after we are attacked, I respectfully ask that you return to France.... God Bless our soldiers!

    May 24, 2010 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • DAG

      Please Explain how this the wars choose us? If Bin Laden was really responsible for 9//11 then why hasn't the state department charged him for it? All of the terrorists came Saudi Arabia, and Egypt. It has already been proven that Iraq had not connect to 9/11.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      Well spoken. Just as the illuminati would want you to say it. They perpetrated the attacks ...and still do ....against us.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • keith

        Iraq was a mistake – well intenioned or planned... but we can't abandon American soldiers as we did in Vietnam. Enemies of the US are just that. It's funny how politics can cloud the mind.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
      • SilkyMcNasty

        You are right! We should not abandon our troops. That's why we should bring them home. Simple as that. A strong military at home better protects our borders from attack. The farce is...its better to bring the fight to them than to fight it here. BS. The oil is over there and that's what we want. And, if Cheney is going to disperse our air cover everywhere but where the attack was. It won't make a bit of difference where we were. We will always be vulnerable to an inside job.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:42 am | Report abuse |
  40. DAG

    Anybody believes that our country went to war to fight terrorism isn't living in reality. I don't think terrorists are going to come America and take away are freedom if we leave Iraq, and Afghanistan. The only winners that will come out of both wars are the corporations and the drug lords in Afghanistan. Yes, the military admitted that they are allowing the poppy fields to grow, and I'm sure the CIA is taking there cut of the action while they throw our own citizens in prison for selling pot.

    May 24, 2010 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Charlie Avila

    Mr. President Obama, send the military to our border with Mexico. Protect our border first!!!. The Mexican cartels can pay terrorists to cross the border and commit terrorists acts here in your own face. If you don't protect the border you will NOT be considered for president any more again,(re- election).

    May 24, 2010 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Tom

    I am glad many of you do not understand the threats to our Country. Do not take that as you are stupid, just you have not been forced to understand reality. Some of you wake up, send the kids to school, go to work, work hard, come home, feed the kids, bathes and time for bed. Good for you. We were successful another day. The other truth is someone has to stand point to protect you and your families. Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen and Marines have been successful another day. Thank a vet. I, like many do not like the politics behind the scenes, but please attempt to understand, not all, but some radical Islamic groups teach that non-Muslims are infidels and they have the right to kill anyone who is non-Muslim, based on their religion. I have seen and heard these terrorists and understand what they truely believe. Main stream Islam is not like that, but those radicals are. Do you understand that these radical groups are willing to kill your mother, wife and children and preach they are doing God's work? We must stand to protect freedom, the Western culture, and the AMERICAN way of respect for others. Thank you and God bless America, and all people of this world.

    May 24, 2010 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • JenniPoohBear

      Thank you, Tom. That was wonderful. I fully agree with you and couldn't have said it better myself.

      May 25, 2010 at 3:46 am | Report abuse |
  43. Charlie Avila

    Our troops should be deployed here in the US- Mexico border, to prevent illegals Mexicans and other Latinos entering into USA territory as terrorists. Remember the last video, that shows an American Muslim threatening the Us and its abroad interests and allies. The military commanders also should recommend Obama to remember that our nation's border is open and any terrorist can enter through Mexico. Mr. Obama has abandoned the US- Mexican border and is concentrated in Afganistan and Irak, and the drugs cartels can pay terrorists to attack the US inside the country.

    May 24, 2010 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      Don't be ridiculous! I am an American and a former Marine with a military ID card and still I could not back over the border into the US without a passport with a chip in it. Its a load of pony loaf the government is selling you fellow Americans in the states. No terrorist has come into the US from Mexico. Maybe some drugs yes....but that was with the help of the CIA and George Bush senior's programs started decades ago. It is smokescreen for closing the borders and stripping away our rights under the guise of "Homeland Security." Don't be fooled so easily.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:42 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Gus Anderson

    One very important factor in the wars in the Middle East is the cost of the war. We are spending billions of dollars that is borrowed money. The question is , " How long can we afford to do this?" Will the government be forced at some point to tell us that we will have to be taxed? Our brave men and women in the armed forces are sacrificing so much every day. I hope we as a people will make the sacrifices necessary to pay the costs.

    May 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm | Report abuse |
  45. slimjim66

    The President of the United States Just imposed a $10,000,000 Daily fine on BP till the oil spill is COMPLETELY STOPPED .
    That Americans is Change . But we have a President with no Moral Ethics for life Between Abortion , wars and now
    the Death of the gulf of Mexico . Haliburton will walk Away Again . Ask his Drones................

    May 24, 2010 at 9:37 pm | Report abuse |
  46. slimjim66

    Big Corporations clearing the road to Profit at Taxpayer Expense . Obama promised change that would have started with
    Prosecution of Bush and Cheney for Corporate invasion of Iraq.,Thats how this War could have ended , as an American
    i now expect terrorist to eventually come here to the United States of Corporate America , we invade Sovereign Nations
    Lie , Torture . Somewhere between Freedom and Fear through the Bush Administration Americans became the TERRORIST .

    May 24, 2010 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Art H

      "Sovereign nations" don't function as launching pad where global jihadis can go and train in comfort and security and then go back to their home countries to commit mayhem. The Af-Pak theater has got to be cleaned up. We don't have an option but to do that. If we don't spend the time and effort now, we will be facing a FAR more formidable enemy in 5 years.

      The population in the region need to be given some breathing space to get away from the iron grip of the Taliban and other Jihadi trouble-makers who have made that part of the world, their launch pad to worldwide terrorism.

      May 24, 2010 at 9:29 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Art H

    So finally the troops are starting to build up in the place where they should have been all along, instead of being diverted out of Afghanistan into executing the Iraq distraction.

    Remember, Osama Bin Laden, Ayman Zawahiri and co were all based out of Afghanistan and ran the training camps from there for worldwide jihadis to go train in comfort and security and then return back to their home countries to commit mayhem. Every single one of the 19 hijackers of 9/11 trained in Afghanistan in Jihadi tactics, before coming into the US for flight training. The London subway bombers trained in the AF-Pak region, the Spain bombers trained in the AF-Pak theater. Now finally we are turning our full attention back to the area, after years of being distracted by Iraq and allowing Al Qaeda and their Taliban allies to get stronger. Other than some special ops action on the fringes, Afghanistan was well nigh left untended by the Bush administration, after the initial thrust into it in 2001, after 9/11. FINALLY, we are doing what we should have done all along. Better late than never !

    May 24, 2010 at 9:21 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Lori Rumsfeld

    Iraq had nothing to do with 9 11
    Iraq had no WMD
    Iraq had no Al-qaeda
    Iraq had saddam hussein as an allied against Iran.

    What did we do????? we forked up

    used to be Republican even voted for Bush senior and liked a bit junior. Iraq war has made anti-republicans not a democrat. Some people do not want to see the truth. The Iraq war was a mistake.

    May 24, 2010 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Art H

      Agreed. The Iraq war was a serious distraction that took our troops away from the AF-Pak theater. It not only took our attention away from Afghanistan, but also allowed the Jihadis to observe and learn the tactics of US troops in the urban setting within Iraq.

      May 24, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Katherine Riebe

    It's strange to see "In God We Trust" and claim ourselves to be "Christians", when Jesus, Himself, said, "Those who kill by the sword, will die by the sword"; and "love God and love one another". Now tell me what good is the military? I'm okay with them helping out with natural disasters and doing jobs on base, but to kill others with no mercy, to use the sword like Jesus said, "No!". Jesus never, ever killed anybody while He was here on planet earth, and He was giving a message to all of us. Stop killing, therefore, stop wars, period. The more we fuel the terrorists hatred, the more violence we create for all of us to deal with. This Nation of Christians is not a Nation of Christians. Jesus said, "Stop it!" Stop this nonsense fighting one another over oil, land and resources. You cannot honestly call yourselves Christians until you stop sinning, period. And God said the love of money is the root of all evil. Well I rest my case. If American Tax Dollars are supporting bloodshed, then we all have ourselves to blame for the messes from oil spills to wars to lives being lost over battling it out in the name of what? Gandhi said to the effect, I like your Christ, but I don't like your Christians. We cannot walk the walk unless we really understand and know who Jesus was and Is.

    May 24, 2010 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • JenniPoohBear

      Oh brother, where do I begin on this one? What sort of world do you live in??!?? Do you honestly think that if we hadn't fought tooth and nail for what we have in this country that you would be allowed to believe in the things you claim to believe in right now? Closed-minded people like you really make my skin crawl. You have NO idea what it took or continues to take to keep you safe in your little puff cloud world. How about you move to Iran or Afghanistan or Iraq. Live there for a while. Enjoy trying to keep yourself from getting killed on a DAILY basis and we'll see just how you feel about wars and the unfortunate necessity of them. Pathetic.

      May 25, 2010 at 3:40 am | Report abuse |
  50. Jason

    I was in Afghanistan back in 2002(2nd ones in). The feeling amongst the various soldiers was that there wasn't enough of us to ever be able to claim a victory. During that time there were only 6,000 US troops and 3,000 foreign. If we have had the numbers that are there now during the early part of the war it would have all been over years ago.

    May 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    Ur right Dave, we should let these religious fanatics have their way and terrorize their people and plan attacks against the western world! These animals think that they will rule the world one day soon! They kill without regard or care. If anyone stands in the way of their brand of Islam, it is ok to kill them! These extremists must die and face God's judgment!

    May 24, 2010 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Alice Seymour, Millport N.Y.

    View Contact
    Faye, I'm very sorry to hear about the lost of your neighbor. Tell uncle Fran that I'm on my way to the middle east again for a year. I will write more when I get there. Take care Luis
    This Gentlemen has been over there before. He serviced four years and back again.
    The young man is Luis Sotomayor of Ky. in the National Guards.
    We lost a War World Two Vet. ho lived to be in his 90's. I wish that we had record the
    stories that he told about War World Two in the Army.
    My family is been in the Navy, husband and son also son-in law is still in the Navy.
    But one thing Americans should do is to Pray for All Men and Women.
    That are in Uniform. But make sure they get the right help when they come Home.
    God Bless All of Them.
    American Need to Bless God.

    May 24, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Army Mom

      You're right Alice, we should support our men and women out there actually putting their lives on the line for this country regardless of our feelings of the war. If any of you out there have the b@11z to help our soldiers by sending them a care package of something they request/need, go to http://WWW.ANYSOLDIER.COM and show you give a damn. You pick a soldier, send a package and you are sure with this site that 100% of your donation goes to a soldier that gets little or no mail.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Dave

    I think both parties should put this BS behind us and create an amendment to bar corporate dollars from elections. They keep selling what keeps us divided then they clean out our banks and ruin our planet. The American people should pull their collective heads out and realize how well divide and conquer is working on US.

    May 24, 2010 at 8:09 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Jesus


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  55. Afghan guy

    Hear it from an Afghan: Nato will not win in Afghanistan. No one has ever won in Afghanistan.

    May 24, 2010 at 7:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Nobody should win in Afghanistan but the Afghans,not the Russians nor NATO.Like I said before,Afghanistan belongs to the Afghans!

      May 24, 2010 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      That's because no country has had the balls to stay long enough. The United States will never leave a country once it has gained roots there no matter how many car bombs, ieds, suicide bombers, etc happen. You would have to kill 100 U.S. troops a day for a couple of weeks straight to get us out and we all know that will never happen.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        So, the lives of your countrymen are expendable? You rejoice when a soldier dies? It kinda sounds like it.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  56. John

    i hear Americans justify the Irak war an say Saddam used Gas poison on Kurdish perhaps" but what about America against the Vietnam people with the Mushroom bomb 2faces liars America is the helped Saddam even with weapons but when he stood against America he was the bad man the tyrant of his people yeah my ass

    May 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • William Clintona

      Not to mention what our own police & miltary do its citizens.

      May 24, 2010 at 7:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • DAG

      Not mention we gave him the gas.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:04 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    Well Jim i think you should have lived under the regime of Saddam or better yet move to Iran!

    May 24, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Franklee

    Remember when GW was president we used to get monthly reports on U.S. casualties in Iraq from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR plus numerous newspapers around the country. When was the last time you saw this type of reporting on our current war in Afghanistan??? Hmmm….

    May 24, 2010 at 7:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      it's because outside of the military members and their families it seems like no body cares anymore. The American public doesn't think we should be there and a lot of people, sadly, believe the people that serve there are bad people. The American people want to focus more on immegration laws, how poor the economy is, and helping other countries disaster victims. A lot of people feel the war is the reason the economy is so bad. I guess that's why people who can't find jobs are joining the military. In reality it's because people panic over minor things in the stock market, banks can't properly do their jobs, and Congressmen are too afraid to make decisions that are best for our country.

      May 24, 2010 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Tekbit

    As Kwi Chang Cane said " War is a Term Men Use to Clothe the Nakedness of Their Killing." War is a Profit Business that has existed since the "Dawn" of Man, and shall continue until Man's Sunset. The Tragedy of Earth.

    May 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Jim

    The U.S. is famous for hidden agendas, often obscured by propaganda, in overseas situations. With Iraq now having a regime which is at least somewhat compliant to U.S. wishes, the next target is the conquest of Afghanistan. The regional strategy is to put the pincers on Iran as well as to secure contracts which benefit various American businesses. This all is cloaked in American blather which alleges that the goal is to "improve" the lives of the people in conquered countries.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      Well, from my understanding the people over there understand we have our own "jihad" with the and completely supported us at first. Then we chased the Taliban out and we started to help rebuild. Over the past few months the Taliban has returned to the country. However, this time the US has a much better way to weed the Taliban out. They are gaining the trust of the village people, so they will turn in the Taliban soldiers. In addition, the Taliban just began it's new offensive in which they took out two high ranking Army Officers in a roadside bombing and the next they attack the largest US base in Afghanistan. As for us opening up room for American businesses in Afghanistan, nearly all companies that make life a little more like home for the troops were taken away. And if the Afghan government wants to allow American subsidiaries to in the country let them. I remind you that is a third world country that makes their dip out of marajuana and goat poop.

      May 24, 2010 at 7:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Very well put,Jim. I too get sick and tired of all this right-wing bla-bla-bla about us "improving the lives of the people".

      May 25, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  61. Marine

    There might be one educated person to post on this forum so far. Seriously, it's great to hear all of your opinions, but you aren't there, you've never been there, and you aren't going. Leave this war to the fully grown human beings who place value on the future of human civilization and peace. Until you stand up and become one, I suggest you sit down before someone puts you down.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • SilkyMcNasty

      You my friend, are an a$$wipe. Way to blow your own horn. If I were there, I would put you down, on your stuppid backside...and slap you silly for your remark. Jim-USMC

      May 25, 2010 at 12:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      President Barack Obama has already made it very painfully clear just how little he values human life and the rights of others.Did it ever occur to him that the Afghans do not want foreign rule? I suppose not.We need a president who is morally principled and will negotiate with the other side to try to find an end to this insidious war.

      May 25, 2010 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
  62. Doud

    The primary reason for the increase is for security and the training of the afghan national army(ana) and the afghan national police (anp) so the united states and nato allies can start decreasing the number of troops in country i think this increase of boots in country will work to benefit the united states and nato and speed up the training process of the ANA and ANP

    May 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Former Marine

    This war is far from over, that's all I really have to add to this statement. Be ready too, because they're gonna turn the Middle East into McDonald's Eating Free speaking idiots.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • John

      Let the come the will send them in a box return to sender

      May 24, 2010 at 7:46 pm | Report abuse |
  64. George

    The primary objective is Iran, and having a hundred thousand troops on one border and a hundred thousand troops on another border is a good position to be in when the shooting starts.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:20 pm | Report abuse |
  65. George

    The objectives in both Iraq and Afghanistan are very long term and have nothing to do with Saddam Hussein or Al-qida.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  66. paul

    vietnam all over again.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:15 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Average American

    They're getting ready to go into IRAN......

    May 24, 2010 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Rhonda

    I think we should pull everyone out if they aren't allowed to shoot the enemy. Not talking about civilians, talking about the terrorists.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • USA Army

      Yes I agree, USA and Europe are the bigest teroris state.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:44 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Fred

    Ducke, you are out of your mind and just crazy, you should go to Afghanistan and get your tounge pulled out by criminal Talibans. It is people like you and your way of thinking that give us Americans bad name.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:09 pm | Report abuse |
  70. oleg

    I think Afghanistan is a very nice strategic place to be in hold of.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • John


      don't thinks you aint that smart moron

      May 24, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Tony L

    The Iraq war was started to please the Israeli Jewish community influence in the US Government to take over Saddam and put some fear in Iran. But it back fired by Iran going for Nuclear weapons to offset against Israeli Nuclear weapons. The Iraq war turned sour with the price given by sacrificing so many American lives for the sake of Israel. We are in this mess due to Israel. Our Generals and commanders know this but are unable to say much due to retributions from powerful Jewish lobby and Jewish lawmakers in our congress. No one is allowed to speak a word negative about Israel or there will be consequences. We may still pay more price until Americans can figure this out.

    May 24, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Captain Noduh

    The US was hosed the minute the Bush administration decided to invade Iraq. At that moment, our commitment was not where it should have been. Instead, the Bush administration sent its armies to lance windmills. George W Bush is the perfect modern day Don Quixote.
    Again, I want to thank the ultra conservative Republican party for their support for their recent modern political renditions of "The Emperor's New Cloths" and Cheney's master piece, "The Sky is Falling".

    May 24, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Andy in Rhode Island

    With a name like Rumsfeld, are you sure you want to cast stones?

    May 24, 2010 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  74. SamNorth

    I guess averyone forgot that Saddam was given those so called "WMD's" by the US to fight Iran. Yes men and women, the US supplied those WMD's to Saddam to fight the Iranians. They used these weapons because Iraq was losing the war so th US gave them a helping hand with the coordination of our CIA. Saddam was the United States best friend once. Did anyone check were these WMD's were originally made?

    May 24, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      So, we give weapons of mass destruction to a lot of our allies, such as England. So does that mean if England turns on us, that the weapons of mass destruction are still no important? No, depite who gave them the weapons, once they could potentialy be used on us, they become a threat, period. While it is annoying how that process works, your little comment there about where the WMD's come from is pointless.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
  75. stella

    LMAO!!!! But hey, Obama pulled us out of Iraq!!!! LOL

    May 24, 2010 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      But we still run the government of Iraq which is no more than a US satillite state and the Iraqi army,plus we have these so-called "Sons of Iraq" or Awakening Councils on our payroll.

      May 25, 2010 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
  76. mljohns00

    The U.S. is being destroyed internally, our waters are being trashed, and we are making war on farming countries on the opposide of the world?

    May 24, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • Chad

      Yes, fate has not been kind to the once great USA lately. Living in Canada, its kind of sad watching the states slowly destroy themselves. I just hope I'm not caught in the crossifre.

      May 24, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        @Chad.Sadly enough,you're right.

        May 24, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • bdub

        You would hope for something like you passivist Canuck. Canada is such a drag. It is an apartment above a great party. The USA has always had turmoil since its inception. There are just more people here now. Canada sucks! Thanks for the oil imports by the way.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Yep, these recessions and lack of funding for our schools sure is one helluva party.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Dave in Louisiana

    WMD had nothing to do with why we went into Iraq. We were going into Iraq with or without a 9-11 or WMD as causes. Neo-Con theory states that we must inject democracy into the region so it will spread to other nations there like majic fairy dust and then people will have a viable alternative to people like Huessein, Assad, and Mubarak and not turn to groups like Al Queda. Check your facts and dig deeper. CIA was told right after 9-11 that we would invade Iraq in early 2003 case closed. The agents working on finding a Saddam-Bin Ladaen connection called the whole episode "The Big Lie."

    May 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Lori Rumsfeld

    Thanks for nothing Bush. Your daughters should have been in Iraq and stepped on IED's for you and the ones that took us to Iraq FEEEEEL the misery you gave unnecessarily to others.

    as bad as saddam hussain was. he was better to iraq than warmongering gutless leaders we had.

    and after all let the iraq people fend for themselves. America is no parent nor owner of any country.
    poor iraq or afghanistan. Im glad Im not from there.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan

      A lot of harsh words with nothing of substance said .Please treat your anger management problem and educate yourself instead of spewing crap like that.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • DAG

        Saddam kept the region stable, like him or not. Now the region is unstable.

        May 24, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      Please kill yourself and do us all a favor. You obviously have never served this great country and never will.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        I picked up some trash on the side of the road once...
        I've donated to charity...
        I pay my taxes...
        I helped.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      Well stated,Lori. Just ignore all these ignorant,right-wing,war loving morons.

      May 25, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  79. ah yes

    So I went to Iraq in 2005 for six months. For what? What did we accomplish in Iraq up until the end of 2011? Nothing.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • CargoCult

      We are in Iraq because of the oil underneath, plain and simple. Just look at who is now receiving the oil contracts from the new Iraqi gov., all western corporations. Saddam had no long term ability to develop the oil fields. His governance was too unstable and corrupt for any outside investment and expertise. This war is about steady oil for decades to come.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • D40

        There is far more to it than that. A better government uses the oil revenue to take care of the massive public works (water, power, schools, highways,etc) that enable a country to become prosperous and peaceful in areas other than solely oil, vs milking it to make dozens of opulent palaces. Right or wrong, it appears western nations are willing to use force when the wrong people (in their judgment) have control of such vast resources. Oil contracts with western nations existed before the war too, so the war only changed who in Iraq got the money for it.

        May 24, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      You must be Army, only a member of the Army would say something that stupid. If you are in the Navy or Air Force, shame on you for finding a loophole in basic and not getting washed out. Go kill yourself and do society a favor. Or get a vasectomy atleast.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:28 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Jesse

    I love how people just jump on the band wagon of believing there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Why don't you go find a vet that went to places like the Al Muthanna chemical complex, H3 Airfield, or ASP Michigan and ask them about the massive ordance piles of R-400 chemical bombs that were there? Even better, just take my word for it that at H3 Airfield alone we uncovered 176 R-400 bombs that carried a bianary G-series nerve agent that were "destroyed" after the first Gulf War. I was there, I found them, they exsist.... happy now? Ignorance is tearing this country apart. We need to live in a world of facts. So yes, there were WMD's in Iraq, as a matter of fact... there were thousands of them.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • clr

      shhhhhhh... they hate facts! 🙂

      May 24, 2010 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • jdk

      "I love how people just jump on the band wagon...", "Even better, just take my word for it...", "Ignorance is tearing this country apart."


      May 24, 2010 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Quite right,jdk,Ignorance is not only tearing this country apart,it's also fueling the Tea Party Movement and keeping us in these two obnoxious wars.

        May 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • paul

      suicide bombers and road side devises are considered WMD

      May 24, 2010 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Standard M4A1: 30 shots, 30 potential kills. That's a lot of kills. A MASSIVE amount of kills. WMD.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Works for a Kalashnikov too, so don't think I'm hating on the soldiers.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:30 pm | Report abuse |
  81. enditnow

    Taliban bankrupted the USSR and They will do the same to the USA...

    May 24, 2010 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • CargoCult

      The Cold War bankrupted the USSR.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        The Beatles bankrupted the USSR.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Steven

    While I like the idea of letting the Nukes fly and putting the hammer down, it would be like trying to swat that fly in your kitchen with a rocket launcher. i served 2 tours in iraq and still wondered why we are there, atleast Afghan theres a direct link with the people who committed 9/11. if your going to end the bad guys riegn then its going to take a change in the culture, i dont know if we can truely do that, but if were going to try we have to give a full effort.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      That would contaminate our oil. THINK ABOUT THE OIL MAN!

      May 24, 2010 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • bdub

        We can get robots to go in and get it.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • JEFF

      Well put Steven. Finally someone with a real perspective of whats going on over there.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • JenniPoohBear

      I completely agree with your words. Well said. And I would also like to thank you for your service of selfless acts in helping to keep this country safe.

      May 25, 2010 at 3:20 am | Report abuse |
  83. Lori Rumsfeld

    saddam hussain had no WMD.
    saddam hussain was a balance of power against Iran...........toke him out and what do we have now a Power-full Iran.
    saddam hussain had no Al-Quaeda in and when we leave. Al-Quaeda will have long roots in Iraq.
    saddam hussain could of been bought for much less treasure than what America WASTED IN IRAQ.
    and the BLOOD, LIVES lost.......what about them????? Should we just forget it?
    Lets put Bush and his ex-goverment on the stand and make them account THE BIGGEST FIASCO they got us into.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
    • clr

      well – since obama came out and said there was no criminal issue – you are kinda out of luck putting them on the stand aren't you? And if you are going to put them there – then I am SURE you are going to add Obama to the list of people to try – since he has escalated the war, and the troops there – and tied their hands with new rules so that we have many many more dying every day ( So – if you think this is criminal – add the guy to the list that could have shut it down – but did not.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      Spineless democrat, go kill yourself. War is inevitable in life as long as people have different ideologies and religons.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Jon

    Let's do this boys!

    May 24, 2010 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  85. Dave in Louisiana

    1973 Vietnamization all over again. Here and Iraq. When we leave...bad guys come back and Iraq falls into Sunni vs. Shia civil war.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • D40

      Vietnam eventually settled out into a peaceful nation that is doing fine. Not all struggle is bad and it is certainly not endless.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      We will never truly leave. We will always have a small military presence. Look to the Korean pennisula and Europe for proof of the long term military strategy.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Joe

    This should have been the case back in 2001 instead of 2010. If overwhelming force had been used in Afghanistan in those early years of this decade, all of the hostilities we see now would have been concluded successfully years ago with far less loss of life, limb, and financial loss. Thank you George W. Bush and company.

    May 24, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kelly

      I agree with you. The problem with war these days is that thhave too much media coverage, not allowing troops to do what is needed to actually win a war. The media tells the story that will get people to watch their station. This normally means they report everything that they think is wrong. I remind people who are worried about casualties, it is war people will die. I feel for all of the families who have lost someone in this war. I myself have lost friends, but they were fighting for what they believed in.

      May 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • paul

        IRAQ was the only war i seen where the news and human rights group ran in ahead of the troops

        May 24, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Tom

    What many people have failed to want to accept, is that Saddam, himself was a weapon of mass destruction. He tortured and murdered tens of thousands. This included anyone who even spoke one single word against his rule, let alone lobby peacefully to change it. He was a murdering coward, and unless you're completely out of touch, you'd realize he harbored and trained terrorists from all over the middle east. Iraq was just for this reason alone. There are many more.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Giggle

      Yeah Saddam was a tyrant but war was not an answer, Iraqis lost more people due to our war than Saddam could have killed. 100,000 iraqi civilians were killed in 2003 war (

      May 24, 2010 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • paul

        try millions of civilians, they are not going to tell us the true numbers, also the number of our troops killed,

        May 24, 2010 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • bdub

        Stop living in the past. Sadam is gone. Don't make yourself look like an idiot anymore, throw your CPU in the trash, and stay off of chat forums.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • sameer ashraf

      He was a murdering coward who used nerver gas agaisnt he Kurds and killed so many civilians. I wonder why the USA didnt think about this senario before selling such dangerous weapons do this coward murderer.

      May 24, 2010 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • US infidal

        Money, power, control freaks, that is why.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
  88. Mainehunter

    May 24th, 2010 4:42 pm ET

    U.S.Government to Release NEW DOLLAR COINS...
    And you guessed it
    If ever there was a reason to boycott something, THIS IS IT!!!!


    Together we can force them out of circulation..

    It has begun...Refuse new coins!

    True Americans will refuse these
    It has begun...Refuse new coins!

    This simple action will make a strong statement.

    Please help do this..Refuse to accept these when they are handed to you. I received one from the Post Office as change and I asked for a dollar bill instead.

    Please help out..our world is in enough trouble without this too!!!!!

    May 24, 2010 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      God doesn't exist.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mainehunter

        yeah...according to OBAMA

        May 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Apparently I'm Obama?

        May 25, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • bobo

      "I received one from the Post Office as change and I asked for a dollar bill instead."

      This is fake. Seriously, why are people willing to believe this stuff?

      May 24, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mainehunter

        Go to the post office fool.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • clr

      i agree – and if you get one... just let a train run it over and smush it like the penny you used to put on the track... that is all the dollar is worth now anyway...

      May 24, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
      • sameer ashraf

        yeah do that... and please let me know where you will be throwing all your $s

        May 24, 2010 at 6:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • nokidding

      Try looking on the rim of the is there. Knucklehead.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mainehunter

        Hey loser, Why hide IN GOD WE TRUST? Loser.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • watchingfreedom

        sorry ,,,never looked on the side of the coin...maybe it should be on the front

        May 24, 2010 at 9:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • karotmn

        @MaineHunter actually "In God We Trust" has been on our coins for only half of our nation's existence. "In God We Trust" was not put there by the forefathers. Look it up.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        God does not exist.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Peter M

      Hey..fool..In God We Trust is inscribed on the EDGE of the coin which is a special Presidential version just like the state Quarters..Quit spreading lies and quit dissing your own country and its coins. Check it on to see what a dupe you are. Even Obama finishes every speech with God bless the United States of America so don't try to put this on him either...hahahah.

      May 24, 2010 at 6:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mainehunter

        Hey Dupey, it is a special OBAMA presidential edition where he conveniently "hid" the inscription In God We Trust. You're on the edge stupid

        May 24, 2010 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • paul

        when will the USA have a coin with the pope on it. to show the popes loyalty to america, vis a versa

        May 24, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • karotmn

        Mainehunter, the coins started coming out 2 years before Obama was elected. Will you criticize Bush just as harshly now that you know it was under HIS watch?

        May 25, 2010 at 12:58 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        God is an imaginary thing. Doesn't exist.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
    • watchingfreedom

      no new money for me......... I refuse them too.............the people have to wake up

      May 24, 2010 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • bob seger

        You are both fools. Though both of those screen names ae probabl just the same person,because surely two people of such ignorance could be on the same forum. Its on the coins and its not "hidden" its just simply on the side of the coin. How could you possibly "hide" anything on something as small as a coin and it still be legible. And truthfully church ad state or suppose to be seperate, so why is in god we trust on our currency? Maybe you need to wake up and realize america is changing, always is, and isnt a little ole christian nation full of blind followers anymore. You are a fool fellow coutryman.

        May 24, 2010 at 10:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • mainehunter

        @bobseger...we are one nation under God...fool. See the new coin before you open your ignorant mouth. You are no countryman of mine. Go pray to Alla or Ali or Muhammed Abdul or whoever blows up your skirt. In America, we are one nation under God.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:06 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        God STILL does not exist.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • US infidal

      Religion is the curse of this world. How many more have to die before you people come out of the dark ages.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
      • JenniPoohBear

        It can't happen soon enough for me. The "coming out of the dark ages" part, that is. 😉 But more and more people are waking up, albeit slowly.

        May 25, 2010 at 3:14 am | Report abuse |
  89. Elmo

    There is a reality, that is that there is a concept of Jihad, it is a reality that the Iranian leadership believes it to be their responsibility to provoke the 3rd world war to bring the final the reality is to preserve the western culture and to keep the Jihadist confined to their territory and PERHAPS bring rational understanding to non-violent persons of the Muslim faith there must remain a presence in this area...keep the jihadist issues in their space. Staying as long as necessary to bring about a change of perspective that permits all faiths to live quiet lives.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      As long as there is religion, there will be conflict, history proves that over and over and over and......

      May 24, 2010 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • response to Elmo

      US printed books in 1980s for afghan children which were filled with talk of jihad and featured drawings of guns, bullets, soldiers and mines, which have served since then as the Afghan school system's core curriculum so they could fight against the Russians. Even the Taliban used the American-produced books, though the radical movement scratched out human faces in keeping with its strict fundamentalist code- abcs of Jihad Washington

      May 24, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Jesse

    We were in Iraq because Saddam would not disclose the actual numbers of weapons of mass destruction that the Iraqi forces had. I hope that answers your question.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mec

      ...which amounted zero weapons of mass destruction. Which leads back to the original question.

      May 24, 2010 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      The simple fact is that Saddam Hussein didn't have these so-called WMDs and Bush knew it because we have spy satillites,U2 planes,C.I.A. agents on the ground and had a UN inspection team led by Hans Blix and they found nothing.But Bush used the public's ignorance to get them to believe it.We invaded Iraq for it's oil,plain and simple!

      May 24, 2010 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ella

        onesmallvoice I'm curious as to how conspericy theorests/ conspericy theory belivers like yourself shut out things like
        a- we have our own oil if we wanna drill it
        b- much of the terrin in the Middle East makes it easy to hide people, secret facillities etc.
        and finally
        c- belive it or not the US government is not all powerful

        May 24, 2010 at 5:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jesse

        You need to do research or actually go to Iraq yourself before leaving ignorant comments like this.

        May 24, 2010 at 5:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • gigle

        Ella "we have our own oil if we wanna drill it" Why have not we drilled it yet? Why are we buying it for big bucks from Saudi ARabia and taking their crap???? America is not all that powerful??? Really??? It may not be that powerful now becoz of weak economy due to wars. However, why was it singlehandedly trying to do a "shock and awe" campaign against UN and rest of the world's recommendation if it did not think it was powerful enough???? Ella, wake up and smell the reality. US screwed up big time in Iraq, we lost more people than we did in 9/11 including approx 100,000 Iraqi civiilians (source:washington post).

        May 24, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • bdub

        This comment above mine is made a complete fool. How has the United States benifited from Iraq's oil since the war started? In no way at all. We were importing about 15% of our oil per day from Iraq before the war and the same rests true today. We have received no money from the Interior Ministry since the war started and will not. The entire point of STAYING (not going to) in Iraq is to stabilize the government and Iraqi military. You would understand this if you had a brain.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • US infidal

        As for Iraq, if it was such a great threat why didn't President Bush Sr. finish the job during Desert Storm in the 90s. Oh that's right our military was hired out as Mencenaries for a foreign country.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:43 am | Report abuse |
    • steven

      Actually, saddam did reveal exactly how many weapons of mass destruction he had–ZERO. Bush just chose not to believe him or the UN weapons inspectors–Bush saidSsaddam wasnt cooperating with the inspectors, but remember, the inspectors said he was cooperating. And if nothing else, you can at least see after the fact that he truly had zero weapons, so he yeah, he did reveal the exact number of weapons. Its was a sad say when the words of Saddam Hussein proved to be more trustworthy than a US president hell bent on war.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • kb10

        Even if Saddam did not have WMD's, he still managed to annhillate thousands upon thousands of innocent people in his Hitler-like ethnic cleansing campaign. But I guess we should have just let him continue that.... Really?

        May 24, 2010 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • US infidal

        Sounds like Children Protective Services, same mentality

        May 25, 2010 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
    • paul

      WMD were those the one,s SADDAM was suppose to have in highway trucks and kept moveing them around so the americans could not find them, lets see to night we will guess which shell is the peanut under,

      May 24, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • patch336

      we went to war in iraq for oil no other reason. PRES. CLINTON got his hand slipped for lying about a bj. PRES. BUSH LIED ABOUT INVADING IRAQ . wow this country should wake up and see what our goverment is doing in your name.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:08 am | Report abuse |
  91. Lori Rumsfeld

    Thank you Kian,

    why did we go wage war in Iraq again? Its not clear. It should be investigated for many years to come.
    Bush Blair should be put on trial. And America should repent of this war due it was NOT necessarily.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  92. David Stone

    Why we were in Afghanistan after the first year? Did we really accomplish anything more? In the end, when we leave, whether now or in five years, the taliban will simply regain its control as it always does. What a waste of effort.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Duke

    Couple nukes and we'd be out of both countries in a week.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • David Stone

      Now THAT is what we SHOULD have done on 9/12/01. There would have been a brief outcry, but it would have long been past by now, and we might have actually taken out Bin Laden and his core group who are of course all safe today.

      May 24, 2010 at 4:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bri

        Really? You think there would only be a brief outcry if we used a Nuke?... Like the brief outcry for Iran's (potential? imaginary?) nuke that they haven't even used yet?

        We Amerikans are an arrogant bunch, are we not?

        May 24, 2010 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • DK

        Bri you are right on point. I understand the need to go after the attackers of 9/11, but what gives us the right to invade country after country and then try to tell the how to believe, how to live, and try to make them like the good old USA. We still have along way to go ourselves before we can judge another culture. Wonder why the rest of the world sees us as bullys & terrorist. Did 9/11 happen so easily because the people of the country believe we were untouchable?

        May 25, 2010 at 2:30 am | Report abuse |
      • puparoni

        If we did do that the Bush Family would've never gotten paid!!!!

        May 25, 2010 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      Ok, but that would contaminate a lot of our oil supply, leading to more wars over oil, and undoubtedly lead to a UN response in the form of war against us.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • clr

        um... it might contaminate your opium supply – but Afghanistan doesn't have oil...

        May 24, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • Joe

        Kian, that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard. The cost of the war was FAR MORE in dollars (do the research, it was)than if we bought every drop of oil from those reserves. So the war mongers for oil are either dumb or not war margoners for oil.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • sameer ashraf

        Afghanistan dosn't have any OIL but it is a route to OIL and gas resources in centeral Asia.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sonny

        @clr, Aside from a sizable copper mine appropriated by the Chinese thanks to American treasury and bloods, Afhanistan natural resources are far and few in between. But because of its strategic location at the crossroads between the fossil fuels (oil.gas) rich Central Asia and the world, the country serves as the most direct, shortest transit point in this regard. Unfortunately, the security instability of the country far outweights any potential economic gains so there are little if any external investments forthcoming.

        May 24, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        That was a joke, and Iraq has oil. he said "a couple nukes and we would be out of BOTH countries"

        May 25, 2010 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • dave

      If it didn't involve the extinction of the snowy leopard then I'm sure we would.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • sameer ashraf

        So for you snowy leopard is more valuable then Million of Muslims living in Afghanistan who do not even support Taliban? This is the kind of picture that Taliban wants the general Afghan public to get of all Americans i.e. they think you are less valuable then animals

        May 24, 2010 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • US infidal

      Yea, Yea, that is what we heard for 10 years through out the Vietnam War.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:37 am | Report abuse |
  94. Brent

    Nice attempt to up the pressure by the administration but this will not do a lot of good without " significant" boots on the ground in Pakistan. The Pakistani government has no real economic means besides selling nuclear technology around the world and squeezing the U.S. for more aid money and only handing over a couple of high level targets here and there. They (Pakistani Gov.) have no real benefit to helping the U.S. see an end to this war by capturing or killing those we seek.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Brad

      So what your saying is they don't mind being bombed by there own people? Yeah, they have nothing to lose (rolls eyes)

      May 24, 2010 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • gigle

      That's why Pakistani forces have lost 2000 men and 3,000 civilians (many members of retired military personnels).

      May 24, 2010 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • sameer ashraf

      Yeah. That’s right. We Pakistani people do not want this war to end. We really love predator drones fly in our air space slapping our sovereignty and we don’t really mind any collateral damage.... and we don’t mind the crazy heads blowing themselves up in busy markets of ours... rite.
      What’s wrong with you? Pakistan has lost more Army men in last couple of years then US has lost in Afghanistan and Iraq combined. Are you even counting the number of civilian causalities as a result of Pakistani Taliban and the civilian causalities as a result of collateral damage done by US drones and Pakistan’s army operation?
      Do you think US would have stayed in this war if US had to pay by giving multiple civilian causalities every single day? I don’t think so.
      Before mocking our economy you may want to know that while us is giving Pakistan an Aid of a couple billion dollars the Pakistan has lost 10s of billions of dollars in investment due to the destabilization of whole region because of war in Afghanistan.

      May 24, 2010 at 6:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • watchingfreedom

        keep the afs from running across your border and the u.s. would not be in Afghanistan

        May 24, 2010 at 8:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sonny

        Good response Sameer! Herein you'll see the typical conservative, folksy common sense logics full of emotions but with little analytical or culturally factual basis that got the US in troubles in Iraq. Just know that not all of us are like this.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • DK

        Thank You sameer ashraf. As a Citizen of the US, I would say many agree with your point of view and still looking for the answers. Invasion of Iraq was a lie & poor joke, not just on the world but toward the American people. Propraganda is alive & well through out the world, yes even hear in the good old Usa. After 9/11 Americans were looking for answers and this gave our government the chance to invade the middle-east. It is for people sitting at home in a safe country who have never experience death & destruction on a daily bases to call for more war. But at least their is one thing we do have, the freedom of speech which allows us to speak out against our government actions with out shot. I support our troops doesn't I agree with task our leaders have place on them.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Sonny

      While economically poor Pakistan is a sovereign state, one with sophisticate social, political and economic layers and not a rogue or failed nation that other countries can do whatever it want. The people have national pride just like you do. How would you feel if the Chinese were sending drones into American airspace day in and out overhead?! When you're a nobody you can paint the world however you want. People in positions of great powers of life and death like Presidents or premiers don't have the luxury of thinking in folksy, simplistic terms as the consequences are too real.

      May 24, 2010 at 9:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • DK

      So why make war on the people they are just trying to survive all this insanity.

      May 25, 2010 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
    • Onesmallvoice

      The Pakistanis have no choice but to collaborate with the US. If they don't,Obama has but to cut off all foreign aid to them and if that doesn't work,Obama can have them literally "bombed into the Stone Age" like Bush threatened back in 2001.

      May 25, 2010 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  95. Kian

    Why were we in Iraq again?

    May 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • bdub

      To secure the country to the best of our ability, while the first true democracy in the middle east is stabilized. That takes time. Sadam Hussien had to go bye bye. Anyone who kills 200,000 people must himself be killed. If you can't understand this simple logic coming from a genius, you are a complete idiot who hasn't served his country in any way, shape, or form.

      May 24, 2010 at 8:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • patch336

        the brave men and women fighting in afghan are there to free afghans. i sleep very well because of the people in 1775 that fought the english . when than men and women of the armed servicers protect the people of their corrupt goverment and corpration then i will be impressed.

        May 25, 2010 at 1:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Jonny

        How many years has it been since you guys went in there? And still a bomb goes off nearly every single day, sounds like a real success to me!

        May 25, 2010 at 4:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        The fact that you called yourself genius makes no nothing more than arrogant, and that logic was not logical.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sonny

      If you read the article carefully, the US is gradually phase out its military presence in Iraq according to a bilateral agreement between the two nations (signed under Bush but Obama must follow through). The logistics of moving a hundred thousands troops and their war gears is a mind boggling monumental task, not to mention doing it in a responsible way that protects the lives of the local population and those of our own troops. The reason the US is currently in Iraq (bad intel was just a pretext) is the same reason we're in Iraq during the First Gulf war in 1992–oil!

      May 24, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Styles

        Sonny, you have been the one to make the most sense on this page... it is real, and logical, and can be proven..the rest of the stuff is just absent-minded.. people giving opinions w/o thorough education on this subject... I've fought w/my boyfriend about trifles of him not replying to me..etc...and i chose to do my research..only to see that I'm a selfish woman, living it up in America...while he is over there not knowing if he will live to see another day... we gotta get real...and why the media don't keep us informed...puzzling to can we all as a country support our people, if we're not reminded or motivated thru media tools to be supportive>

        May 25, 2010 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
      • anon

        Sonny- and thats why we havn't taken a drop of oil while the Chinese and Russians sign lucrative contracts! Because we want that oil!!! /sarcasm

        how long will people use the oil shtick, its been proven false, get over it. If we wanted oil we'd talk to Canada.

        May 25, 2010 at 4:40 am | Report abuse |
    • Jimmy the Big Fat Greek

      The truth behind Iraq (again, pronounce it like superstar: "Eey-rah-k") is Hussein threatened Israel and Bush thought he could get a "twofer": Make Israel happy and grab the oil. It's more to it than that – Saddam was tried in a kangaroo court and hung – probably revenge because he wanted Bush Sr. assassinated. "Slobo" is still on trial for his warcrimes in the Balkans, but Saddam's was wrapped up in less than 6 months to make sure he was executed. The real reason behind holding Iraq hostage was establishing geo-political power in the Middle East, a foothold before the Iran invasion – which is coming soon. The purpose is to secure Israel, suck the oil out of the ground, destabilizing Islam by Westernizing the backwards people, and taking a stranglehold on the 21st century's greatest terrorist threat.

      I think it's all a bad move. Right now the Balkans are starting up again in a bad way. South America, Central America and Mexico (North America) are burgeoning empires of crime and instability. The world's going to you know what.

      May 24, 2010 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Styles

        WOW ...thank you for the information...this also makes sense....this is bananas!

        May 25, 2010 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Saint Louis

        Slobodan Milosevic died in the War Criminal Prison in The Hague, 11 March 2006. I don't know what you are talking about re: the Balkans erupting again. I just looked at some news links, and I see democratic elections mentioned, economic development news, and Serbia being considered for NATO membership. Sure doesn't sound like it is all falling apart to me.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:45 am | Report abuse |
    • DK

      To finsih what President Bush Sr. left undone in the earlly 90s. Our government gave them 10 years of peace what more could a poor country ask for. Why does our government lie to us & conceal facts?
      How many countries is the United Nations going to allow the United States to destroy in the middle-east before they say enough is enough.

      May 25, 2010 at 1:51 am | Report abuse |
    • Kian

      Damnit, that wasn't sarcasm, WHY WERE WE THERE? CAN ANYONE GIVE ME AN UNBIASED REASON?

      May 25, 2010 at 2:51 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Onesmallvoice

    I just wish that they would call off this upcoming ofensive and try to find a way out of this obnoxious war instead of just sending in more troops.

    May 24, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • kevin

      war is a money maker for haliburton and others..they wont seek a diplomatic souloution..

      May 24, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Elmo

        Agreed, war is money, but not just for the "western" power elite. There is a very powerful Arab elite that has strong attachments to maintaining the war. Perhaps it is worthwhile to investigate the money trail, go beyond haliburton...who really controls the money, who really controls the various corporations that are financially benefiting from the wars.

        May 24, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
      • clr

        So Obama is getting paid off by Haliburton now? Seems so – with his light stance on the BP issue, and funding more to Afghanistan...

        May 24, 2010 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • steve

        diplomacy doesnt work with terrorist..sorry

        May 24, 2010 at 7:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Neil

        Seems like the war is finally shifting to the country where the entire war on terror should have been in the first place. There were no ties at all between Iraq and the attack on the Twin Towers!

        May 24, 2010 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Larry

        Kevin, you stupid " HALIBURTON IS THE EVIL EMPIRE " slug, are really shallow minded. I wish you would wake up and look a little beyond your prissy little world and read up on history and something beyond the left-wing toilet paper you read as the source of information.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
      • John

        Wow, insightful.

        May 25, 2010 at 1:34 am | Report abuse |
      • RossC

        War is a major drain on the taxpayer. Controlling costs is the order of the day now.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Jay

        is that why my Halliburton stock is down and has been down for a while, smart guy? I

        May 25, 2010 at 6:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Ben Kraus

      this "obnoxious" war wasn't just started for no reason. we didnt just say "oh hey lets send 200,000 Marines Soldiers and Sailors to afghanistan because we feel like it." These offensives are meant to root out our enemy, the ones who did harm to America and would jump at any chance to do it again. That way Afghanistan can become more stable, more quickly and hence American troops can leave more quickly. What is wrong with you Americans who think just leaving without finishing the job is right thing to do? Look what happened after Russia invaded Afghanistan, the U.S. backed afghanistan and helped them repulse the Russians, but after that was over we just left, didn't help rebuild their country which had been totally destroyed. The afghans found themselves struggling all alone and began to develop resentment towards the U.S. and became the base from wich the 9/11 attacks were based.

      My Dad is in Afghanistan right now and I wish he was home right now but even I understand the necesity of finishing what we set out to do, instead of just leaving without finishing the job. That would simply make things worse and America would suffer further on down the road. You thoughtless boob.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • Steven

        That's right!
        I can't help but believe that a bunch of goat herders and people who live in a caves did this!
        Oh, they'll pay!

        May 24, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • yoyo

        You are severely brainwashed man

        May 24, 2010 at 5:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • David Elisha

        Well said my friend.

        May 24, 2010 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
      • ProgVet

        Nicely stated especially the "thoughtless boob" bit.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Chulk Ches

        Well-said Ben Kraus. I nver was in the military but on behalf of myself and many others, I understand very well that the sacrifice and bravery your father has assumed is the reason why me and my son, have the ability to live in a country with the freedoms so many seem to take for granted. Nay sayers can say what they like, but their ability to say what they want only exists because of the brave actions your father. That is what freedom is all about. I hope your father comes back safe and unharmed.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Working_in_Kabul

        Well said Ben!!!!

        May 24, 2010 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
      • Maldonado

        when you say we it means you affiliate yourself with the soldiers, you didnt do anything in war, your dad did. Unless you were physically a part of the war dont use the word, "we."
        It offends those who actually were over there. Other than that i agree with you. U.S. Military should finish what they started, and U.S. citizens should support the troops who have sacrificed so much to do what is basically a thankless job in some U.S. cities. Show appreciation

        May 24, 2010 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • David

        Well said Kraus.

        @Maldonado. The 'we' are the ones who did the sending, as well as the ones who responded to the call, and those who are separated from deployed family, either temporarily or permanently. "Even I understand the necessity of finishing what we set out to do, instead of just leaving without finishing the job." The son of a deployed vet is certainly allowed to say that.

        Of course the ones who deserve the credit are the ones who actually serve, but 'we' as nation need to equip soldiers in Somalia with APCs, those in Iraq with body armor, and require effective rules of engagement. Those who would tie the hands of the warriors, and pull the plug when there is unfinished business, do not understand what is at stake. To all those who serve the cause of freedom, I say, Thank You.

        May 24, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • DAV

        Maldonado, chill. I was probably in combat while you were still in diapers. The young man is expressing a heart-felt point. If you were in the sandbox, you were a volunteer. There's no draft. "We", as a country, are not going to let a bunch of religious fanatics, or any kind of fanatics, foreign or domestic, kill thousands of Americans and sit on our butts. Not everyone is old enough or young enough, or healthy enough, at this point, to serve directly in the military. That doesn't mean "We" aren't doing everything we can to support the guys and gals on the pointy end of the stick. No point in getting insulted. If you want to truly be insulted, get spit on as you get off the plane back in the world. Have people call you all the crap we had thrown at us after a tour. Then you can be insulted.

        May 24, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ron

        Nice going kid! All of these people who think we should just leave have been living free all of these years and speak of freedom and freedom of the press, live in a free country! How many good soldiers died so they could have that freedom? I am a vet of the Viet Nam ara, I know what its like to fight for our freedom.

        May 24, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • jake

        Thank you Ben for your great response AND for the valiant service your father (and others like hime) have providing to this country. I have married someone who immigrated to this country over 20 years ago. The country she is from spends most of its time policing its 'own people'. I wish the people who are 'against' our efforts in the middle east would at least CONSIDER moving to a different country, even for JUST ONE year, then see if they 'sing a different tune'. Tell your dad Thanks:).

        May 24, 2010 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Alf

        Well said Ben! Let's not forget 9/11 and the fact these fanatics are trying to do this again.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • TLC

        Well said Ben! My husband is in Afghanistan. I don't always agree with his beliefs, but I trust that he knows what is the right thing to do. He could be sitting comfortably by my side retired. He has chosen to go on a third deployment. To the guy who wrote what's up with the "WE", it is a family affair. The whole family is affected by a deployment. Missed milestones of children, birthdays and anniversaries. 2010 for me is no husband by my side for our 25th wedding anniversary or a wild and crazy over the hill 50th birthday party and possibly missing our son's college graduation. We are 4 months into another 12 month deployment. Three months until he takes mid-tour leave. You really start to ? why at this point. As I wrote before I trust that my husband believes that what he is doing is the right thing.

        May 24, 2010 at 9:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Art H

        Agreed. It is only now that the balance of troops are starting to shift to where they should have been all along. The Iraq distraction is finally starting to wind down.

        May 24, 2010 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Shawn

        Once people realize that 9-11 was BS is when they realize that Afghanistan and Iraq was NEVER necessary. but then again people still don't get the "FACT" that when a bullet hits you from behind, your projected forward not back and to the left like the "JFK assassination".. magic bullets and magic planes like the ones who's fuel burns so hot it melts steel and causes 3 towers to Magically fall into it own you believe in truth or mainstream hokus pokus, should be the real topic

        May 24, 2010 at 9:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Tim

        Ben, Well said, and with clear thoughts and facts rather than emotion which tends to fog and skew what we mean to say. I for one agree with you and understand what you've been through. I'm a veteran of Gulf War 1, Somalia, and OIF. One of the things so many people forget is that the US and her allies are in a position to assist dozens of other countries around the world who cannot or will not support or help themselves. No one blinked or complained when we went into the former Yugoslavia and Croatia, Hertzagovina did they? No one initially cried foul when we went into Somalia. No one complained when we yanked Noriega out of his bed and brought him to the US to stand trial for hundreds of murders and putting TONS of drugs onto our streets did they? So before anyone starts to mouth off about just one or two engagements we're presently in, stop and think about the millions of people we've saved through our involvement in dozens of other conflicts in dozens of other countries for the last 25 years. Also think about the fact that those Service Men and Women overseas right now are there as volunteers. Not as conscripts or slaves or through threat or beguilement, but as volunteers. When you go to bed tonight remember that you can sleep safely and soundly knowing that YOU are not being shot at tonight because of others who do their job proudly not just for you but for those strangers in a foreign land that can't do it for themselves.

        May 24, 2010 at 10:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • SAB

        Maldonado...spoken with true ignorance. What you fail to understand is that "we" is indicative of the holistic nature of war and how its effects are felt far beyond the battlefield. What you fail to understand is when married or with children, "they" people like Ben here enlist, reenlist etc with their parents or loved ones. it is a that a child or wife has little say over. Maybe you should talk to others who suffer while their family is away. Some call it the silent ranks others call it the homefront but that is what it is; a front. So please dont denigrate a families service when they stand beside them because they are serving just in a different manner. As for my Bona Fides, i got back on saturday from my second tour in less than 3 years. Be polite and understanding not arrogant and ignorant of the realities of military life.

        May 24, 2010 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • Jimmy the Big Fat Greek

        The Taliban are recruiting for Afghanistan, but are looking outside of their country. Not one of the hijackers on 9/11 were Afghani: they were all from Syria, Egypt, Jordan, Yemen, UAE, etc. That's where the terrorists are coming from – and of course Pakistan (Pha-kee-sthan – you need to pronounce it with that cool accent that's all proper like). Afghanistan is thus a never ending battlefield where legions of Muslim extremists meet up. They cross the border in t-shirts and shorts and valid passports and then spread out to the mountains where they are armed with simple weapons like AK 47s, IEDs, and mortar rounds. With our consumerism choking on oil with no end in site – we're only funding Middle Eastern terrorism.

        May 24, 2010 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        You do realize that while , tragically, about 3,000 Americans died in the attacks of 9/11, that roughly 45,000 Americans die every year from inadequate health care? Roughly 40,000 Americans die every year in traffic accidents?
        Priorities, man!

        May 24, 2010 at 11:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • WakeUp

        DavidH – you're an idiot. How many would die if terrorists started detonating nuclear bombs? If it wasn't for the guys and gals over there doing your dirty work for you, you'd be living in a fall out shelter.
        The only reason you can sit there under your olive tree in your loin cloth is because people like Ben's father bought you that right with their lives. Get a job and buy some health insurance.

        May 25, 2010 at 12:21 am | Report abuse |
      • InAfghan

        Well said! Don't forget us Airmen are over here too!

        May 25, 2010 at 12:50 am | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Sorry but you've been brainwashed by watching too much TV and too many movies. Look up salience bias. I'll worry about nuclear bombs detonating when it happens. You are Chicken Little, running around telling everybody the sky(nukes) are falling when I'm saying there are much more immediate concerns and priorities. And so what if a nukes vaporizes me? I'd rather go that way than waste away from some disease without health care. And get a job? I'm willing to bet I'm much more gainfully employed than you, given the profile of the average teabagger.
        "Life is much to important to be taken seriously"
        `Oscar Wilde

        May 25, 2010 at 1:39 am | Report abuse |
      • DK

        That was the question back in the days of desert storm, when our forces where stopped. maybe if the President Bush Sr would taken Iraq then the middle-east might have taken us more seriously. Why didn't he finish.?

        May 25, 2010 at 1:44 am | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Too important, that was a fat finger, not a misspelling.
        Anyway, guy, that's just my advice. I live and work in a foreign country, so I can only watch with shame as my home country goes down the toilet as trillions are spent fighting two wasteful and useless wars. All I can say is too much junk food, too much television, too much brainwashing, too much ritalin and prozac, and too much of a disposable lifestyle mentality. AMerica is a wreck, and it desperately needs the dollars currently being funneled to the military industrial complex to fix itself. It's a class war, and guess what buddy? You're on the losing side. Keep wrapping yourself in the flag, and you'll talk yourself into prison, slavery, or a set of BDU's.

        May 25, 2010 at 1:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Stephen R.

        BEN, great, great, great point. We cannot just hit and run away. That wont solve anything (and prove the terrorist view of America as cowards). We need to do this and do it right and not leave until we finish what we started.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
      • JenniPoohBear

        Well spoken, Ben. 🙂 Thank you for your words, they are wonderful, and please, the next time you speak with your father, tell him how much we appreciate him and all that him and others like him have done and are doing for this nation. Without these wonderful people, this country would not be what it is today.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
      • CIA INTEL

        First off buddy, The CIA had nothing to do with the Mujahideen winning against the soviets, and dont tell me you know more than the CIA, because even The X head of the binladin unit in the CIA admitted , the Mujhaideen won the war against the soviets alone, all America did was fund two of over 30 factions....Thats all..... and Binladin wouldn't even deal with The CIA back then. Secondly The Taliban had nothing to do with Attacking America.... If the US army had any balls this would have been over on Sept.12th , 2001..........Some guided bombs on Al-Qaeda camps and a Parachute drop on 100,000 Troops in Toraq Bora would have got you your man.................But instead America was still 10 steps behind and has been falling behind ever since! Afghanistan is the graveyard of armies and invaders.....Read some histroy , No one has ever defeated these people, and this non-muslim army in Afghanistan, be it American or Brotish or Nato, it dosent matter, these people are not for Sale, The US has one clear option. GET THE FUZZ OUT!

        May 25, 2010 at 3:30 am | Report abuse |
      • 1LT Dave

        Excellent answer Ben. Your Father would be proud. I hope to get over to Afghanistan early next year to take care of business so we can leave the country better than when we found it. Hooah!

        May 25, 2010 at 4:05 am | Report abuse |
      • Gman

        Ben, you're the man. Just know that anyone in their right minds is behind you and the decision to finish strong in Afghanistan. People like DavidH, wow what an idiot. Preventing people that hate us from conducting further violent acts against this great country should be the number one concern, not providing universal healthcare to everyone within our borders including illegals. typical left wing with his head up his @$$. Defeat the Afghani terrorist groups and establish order to the central government in Afghanistan is what needs to be done. I hope your father returns safe buddy.

        May 25, 2010 at 5:05 am | Report abuse |
      • deployed

        Hey Ben, I'm currently deployed (though not exactly in Afghanistan) for another half-year or so. I really do appreciate your words and your ability to communicate so clearly. You are very right though, war is a family affair and I'm also impressed at your ability to realize that. Kid, I hope your father comes back unharmed. Best of luck to your family. This is a conflict that needs resolving that is why me and thousands of others put Our lives out here. We are thinking of home and thank you other commentators for the verbal (well textual) support.

        May 25, 2010 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Dr. Mahdi

        Actually CIA intelignece, The CIA was behind the rise of both the talibazn and al qaueda. But then stabebed them both in the back when they got to powerful. And now weve got a giant war betwen both that could have been avoided if it wasnt for the use of arabs to defeat the soviets.

        May 25, 2010 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
      • William

        I completely agree with Ben, My son is part of the 1/6 Hard that took Marjah and even though he hates it over there and cannot wait come home, he will continue fighting. All I can say for all our troops is to stay strong and may your aim be outstanding.....

        May 25, 2010 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • WoWAddict

        God Bless you Ben! Families of miliary sacrifice much as well.

        May 26, 2010 at 3:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Marine Queen

        Well said Ben,
        I agree totally with what you are saying.... I live in fear every minute until my man returns from Afghanistan... But I support him totally.. I believe in what he is doing............SEMPER FI

        May 26, 2010 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Andy in Rhode Island

      Maybe not so obvious in the media, but there has been a major change in strategy in Afghanistan. Instead of chasing the enemy on every goat path and cave and sometimes finding them, the Afghani, NATO, and US troops will let them wander the hinterlands. Instead of letting them back into the Afghan villages while we try to turn over stones, we will simply work with the people at the local, regional, and national levels to help protect themselves and effectively let the enemy starve themselves right out of meaningfulness. The quickest way out of the war is to protect the villages and cities.

      May 24, 2010 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sonny

        Sorry to burst your folksy analysis of something as complex as the war in Af-Pak, but the Talibs are everywhere, in the hills, caves and urban centers chatting with ISAF patrols for all you know, silently mapping coordinates to be relayed for mortar attacks, surveying and identifying weaknesses in defense systems for suicide bombings, planting IEDs one minute and herding goats the next. The people, especially those in the Pashun heartland in the southern and eastern parts of the country, are culturally and racially indistinguishable from the Talibs. Know your enemies and know yourself.

        May 24, 2010 at 7:53 pm | Report abuse |
    • William Clintona

      If we never messed with these people in the first place then there would not be any war. We would still have 2 towers.

      May 24, 2010 at 7:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Well put,William!

        May 24, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ron

        William! Your an IDIOT !!!!!

        May 24, 2010 at 7:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • watchingfreedom

        study your history before you print, who did attack us? FIRST

        May 24, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • Sonny

        If nations were individuals that kind of simplistic, folksy logic would be plausible. But nation states like the US are selfish, capable of great brutality but also uplifting compassion, and indifferent to individual sufferings. The US "messes" other with other people or countries often out of self economic and/or political interests. We as a country became entangled in the Afghanistan enterprise to contain Soviets expansionism (actually, it's payback for the Soviets "messing" with us by supporting their proxy Vietnamese commies and kicking us out of Vietnam). When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan in 1979, the US and its allies (Saudis and Pakistanis–hmm, seems like nothing has changed in 30 yrs~) responded by supporting the so called "freedom fighters" or Mujaheddin consisting of largely local Afghans but also a sizable number of foreign volunteers from the Muslim world including a charismatic wealthy young Saudi name bin Laden who was physically a wuss (didn't fight the commies) but was articulate, managing logistics and of course being the son of a Saudi billionaire, an excellent source of finance. American dollars and special weaponry such as the stinger missiles tip the balance in favor of the Mujaheddin and help not just kicking the Soviets out of the country but ultimately in hastening its collapse a three years later. There is also an economic dimension to why America got involve in Af-Pak. As in Iraq, it is about acquiring cheap, reliable energy sources (oil, gas). A point most lay (or intellectual lame) people don't know is that American oil giant Unocal and other petro conglomerates had been actively competing throughout the 1990s to built a very lucrative and strategic gas pipeline from Central Asia and the most direct, inexpensive route is through Afghanistan. Finally, we mess with the Talibs because they harbored and protected Al Qaeda (see 9/11). I suggest go back and read your history, political science and geography books so that you and other won't post ridiculous, ignorant questions and comments about current events.

        May 24, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Great point. Totally agree, we never should have messed there in the first place.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Kian

        Freedom, look up First Gulf War. I believe it was us that attacked first.

        May 26, 2010 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • johny

      we have a war going on here between the blacks and the whites and the rich and the poor....we need help here first..

      May 24, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
      • Neil

        What country are you in? We have crime, sure, but a war? Really? Crimes are committed by choice. There is no 'war' between rich and poor, or whites and blacks, just crimes that are sometimes committed against one another.

        Also, from what I understand, most of the crimes are committed against people of the same race as the person committing the crime.

        May 24, 2010 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • DavidH

        Sorry, Neil, but if the financial crisis proves anything, it proves there's a war going on between the financial class and everyone else. Where do US treasury funds come from? Where do they go? I'll give you a hint: not social services. Not toward building schools and roads and bridges.
        We're in a class war, and unless you've got your share of the US treasury, you're on the losing side.

        May 25, 2010 at 2:57 am | Report abuse |
      • US infidal

        Not yet, one of the main cause for the growing racism is this country is the Government and propaganda we get with the news. It would be nice to see our government pratice at home what they preach across the world. As for war,Humans are the most vicious animal on earth, as long as there is mankind there will be wars.

        May 25, 2010 at 3:35 am | Report abuse |
    • anon

      Might as well ask this, what do you think would happen once we "called off the war" unilaterally? How would this effect the United States? Would there be any repercussions to our national security?

      May 25, 2010 at 4:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Onesmallvoice

        Calling off the war unilaterally would be the best thing we could do if we can't get a negotiated settlement between the Karzai regime and the Taliban.We need to start ignoring the right-wing thugs in Washington and find a way to stop this insidious war.This will have a favorable impact on our economy except for the war profiteers.

        May 25, 2010 at 7:55 am | Report abuse |
    • get real

      Right, let's stop the war and give the taliban means and time to bomb another city.

      May 27, 2010 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |