May 10th, 2010
06:13 PM ET

Belgian court convicts three of recruiting to fight in Afghanistan

A Belgian court has convicted three leaders of an al Qaeda terror cell accused of recruiting Europeans to fight in Afghanistan.

Those found guilty Monday include Malika el Aroud, a 50-year-old Belgian-Moroccan woman whom authorities have described as an "al Qaeda living legend." She was sentenced to eight years in prison for "creating, directing, and funding" the terrorist cell.

El Aroud is the widow of the al Qaeda operative who killed Ahmad Shah Massoud, the head of anti-Taliban Northern Alliance. He was killed in Afghanistan two days before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

El Aroud and eight others had been on trial in Brussels since March. Two of the defendants were tried in absentia, including el Aroud's husband, Moez Garsallaoui. He is a Tunisian who was accused of recruiting a group of six Belgian and French recruits with his wife and escorting them to al Qaeda's camps in the tribal areas of Pakistan in 2008.

Garsallaoui also received an eight-year prison sentence.

The other leading figure in the cell who was convicted is Hicham Beyayo, one of the young men el Aroud and Garsallaoui recruited to fight in Afghanistan. Beyayo is accused of playing a deputy role to Garsallaoui within the group. The court sentenced him to five years in prison, but authorities could release him from prison and put him on probation within months said, his lawyer, Christophe Marchand.

As for the six other defendants, one was acquitted while five received sentences ranging from three to five years.

Defense attorneys had argued that the Belgian-French group's aim had been to fight in Afghanistan, not to become terrorists, but the court ruled that the men became members of al Qaeda when they arrived in the Afghanistan-Pakistan border region.

According to counterterrorism sources, the trigger for the Brussels arrests was an e-mail Beyayo sent in early December 2008, after he returned to Belgium from the tribal areas of Pakistan. The e-mail, which was intercepted by U.S. counterterrorism agencies, suggested Beyayo had been given the green light to launch an attack in Belgium.

Not wanting to take any risks, Belgian police rounded up suspected cell members, including several who had been under surveillance for more than a year, counterterrorism sources told CNN.

When police raided several properties in and around Brussels, they found little evidence of an imminent plot, Belgian counterterrorism investigators told CNN. No explosives or firearms or attack blueprints were recovered. At trial, no evidence of any planned attack was introduced in court. Marchand, Beyayo's lawyer, says his client will not appeal the verdict.

"The trial made a clear distinction between the leaders of the group - Malika el Aroud and Moez Garsallaoui – and the young men like my client they influenced and attracted to go to Waziristan," Marchand said.

Belgian intelligence officials tell CNN that the two suspects tried in absentia – Garsallaoui and Hicham Zrioul – are believed to be at large in the tribal areas of Pakistan.

According to court documents, Zrioul discussed a plot to attack the Brussels subway system in 2008 while walking in the mountains of Waziristan with American al Qaeda recruit Bryant Neal Vinas, who has pleaded guilty to charges of aiding al Qaeda.

Garsallaoui is believed to be mixing in al Qaeda circles, a senior counterterrorism official told CNN. The official said there are indications that Garsallaoui met with British al Qaeda operative Rashid Rauf, an individual suspected of playing leading roles in a plot to bomb airliners in 2006 and a plot to bomb the New York subway in 2009. Rauf is believed to have been killed in a U.S. drone strike in northwestern Pakistan in November 2008.

The guilty verdicts bring to conclusion one of the most high profile trials in Belgium in recent years, with Belgian police on high alert throughout the course of proceedings.

In March, Belgian authorities mounted an unprecedented security operation outside the court house after receiving indications that an attack may be launched to free some of the defendants. No attempt materialized.

During the trial, el Aroud mounted a strident defense of the legitimacy of armed combat against Western military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Her lawyer announced Monday that she will appeal the verdict.

El Aroud made clear her sympathy for Al Qaeda in an interview with CNN in 2006. "Most Muslims love Osama [Bin Laden]. It was he who helped the oppressed. It was he who stood up against the biggest enemy in the world, the United States. We love him for that," she said.

soundoff (102 Responses)
  1. Laughing Citizen

    Arguing over the internet is like competing in the special olympics... even if you win, you are still retarded.

    May 19, 2010 at 8:03 am | Report abuse |
  2. Rayal

    I have to say it, but its a bit nerve racking, but I no longer believe in religions. I use to, but no more. Mostly because so much of it is like fairy tales, make believe, twisted history, and then add in the goofy Muslim extremists with their ridiculous bombing of innocent people, and Christians with their extremist history as well, all under the name of God. Any God too, no discrimination here.

    In my life time I have seen so much senseless murders and killings under the righteous name of religions that I no longer care for any of it. Catholic priests have been proven to be molesters, and the Pope remains silent....what the hell is that? Taliban throwing acid on young teen age girls, burning and blowing up schools. Al-Qaeda killing innocent people in 9/11 and in their own local markets with suicide bombs strapped to young men who are disillusioned about the world. Taliban covering their women in burqas and treating them like they were dogs. Iran killing their own citizens so their goofy dictator Ahmadinejad can stay in power, and all the extremists talking Islam and love out of one side of their mouth, and yet killing people indiscriminately and saying it is 'God's will' out of the other side.

    I'm sick of it, and I hope the U.S, attacks with all guns blazing and killing every damn one of the extremists. Unbelievers..? You ignorant cavemen will never get it, and you are insuring the eventual extermination of your own people by your own religious beliefs that have not proven nothing...nothing at all.

    Rock back and forth while you memorize your verses, but in the end you have condemned your innocent Islamic people and all Muslims as well.

    If Muslims or Islamic followers can't police their own extremists because they're afraid, well those of us who use common sense can and will. They are a primitive religion living in the 8th century...there is no way in hell they would ever convert me even with a gun to my head. Prey on the innocent and make them your bombers....that is a horrible way to try and make people believe in your ridiculous religion. This is the modern world, and either you join the rest of us, or plan on being extinct. Not by war, but by common elimination known as survival of the fittest. Trust me when I say the extremists are not fit for human kind, that is just common sense which they have none.

    May 18, 2010 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |

    Lennybaby... when criticizing Mike did you say "foul-speaking teapartiers"?? Guess he needs to be more like Van Jones, huh? You know what's wrong with this country? Too many arrogant, bleeding heart liberals like you who actually think they've invented a better system than what our founding fathers gave us. Well, I got a hot flash for you: The "tea-partiers" ARE America, as you will painfully realize come November.

    May 18, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  4. James

    I'm ready for the crusades again. Get rid of the muslims, they are the evil of the earth.

    May 18, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  5. mmi16

    Observations are the the Afghan's are among the worst 'fighting forces' on the face of the Earth when it come to protecting their own land.

    May 18, 2010 at 2:01 am | Report abuse |
  6. Robert

    Why weren't these people EXECUTED for TREASON!?

    May 17, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  7. sara from allentown

    WHen is the world going to figure out that all the "holy Books' were writen by "men" – who had their own agenda.
    Sad, sad, sad

    May 17, 2010 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • James

      I figured that out a long time ago. Religions for people who can't accept that when you die you're just dead like any other animal. Politicians and people in power have used that fear to control the masses. Islam is run by a bunch of power hungary inman and others like Bin Laden, they have mastered it. I'm sure in the Koran one day future muslims will see the verses written by the opostile Bin Laden and the tower he brought down that the evil empire was trying to build to heaven.

      May 18, 2010 at 5:40 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Tom

    Eight years or less sentence in prison is a joke. These people will continue to be terrorists upon release. They should stay in prison for life.

    May 17, 2010 at 8:43 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob Jones

      Belgium doesn't have a death penalty. Most of Europe is that way. 8 years is really pretty harsh when there was no evidence that any actual attack was planned. No plans, no blueprints, no explosives, no poisons, no guns.

      Read the Fine Article.

      These are recruiters and loudmouths. A lot like some of the posters here.

      May 18, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Bledsoe

    They really need to convict those butchers who operate those drones dropping 500lb. bombs on defenseless people over there,but these mean-spirited,heartless people who keep blogging in here with their right-wing mob mentality just wouldn't stand for that.Where's the sense of justice,has it become a thing of the past???I guess that the Tea Partiers will win bigtime with their candidates in this fall's elections.Sad,but true.

    May 16, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      Before that happens they need to arrest prosecute and convict those guilty of planting IED's.

      May 17, 2010 at 7:17 am | Report abuse |
    • sara from allentown

      If you have not been to Afhanistan or Irag, you need to keep your big fat no nothing mouth and brain silent.
      Mulims are killing innocent muslims ever single day for some absolutley ridiculous beliefs ( both religious and cultural). I guesss you are okay with women staying barefoot and pregnant, not alowed to got ot school and getting married off at the age of 12. These neanderthals ( aL Qaeda) need to go iunto theri caves andstay there- and leave everyone else alone.

      May 17, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Onesmallvoice

    @jams.Those drones kill both "militants" and civilians alike,although the right-wing news media people don't wish to admit it.They want to keep these obscene wars as popular as possible in order to play into the hands of the right-wing thugs in Washington and keep them happy.

    May 16, 2010 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Jerry

      Daniel/onesmallvoice: Drones are merely an effective response to those 'ungodly' IED's

      May 17, 2010 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
  11. jams

    i am blonde, would someone tell the differnce?
    IED or suicide bomb goes off killing 5 soldiers and 10 civilian
    drone attack killing 3 militants and 2 civilan
    wrong house raids killing 7 civilians 0 militants

    i know that terrorists kill both, civilian and soldiers thats why we call them terrorists or bad guys. thats what they do and thats why we dont want them.

    what about soldiers. is it ok for them to kill few civilian just to be fare.
    i thougt that soldiers take oath to protect them with their life.

    educate me please

    May 16, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Carl

    Oh boo hoo hoo, we use bombs and donres on terrorrist that want to kill us. My only wish is that we could give the terrorist Daniel and his friends addresses for volunteer martydom.

    May 15, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  13. MARINE 101

    well well..everybody have something to say.. can't you just see both side.. regardless how the liberals and conservative feel, people still die on both side. both side believe they are fighting for the right reason.. both side not wrong or right.. we Marines doing the same thing in Afghanistan with a very intelligent enemy.. Us the Marine believe we are helping the Afghan people by fighting the Taliban, i'm sure the Taliban think they are doing the same thing by fighting The Marines and their allies.. if we don't come to term with the real problem soon we will have all these dead bodies on both side with nothing good to show for it.. so please take a second put yourself on both side of the spectrum, see how side feel.. be openminded and you most likely will have adifferent view.. thanks..

    from Afghanistan..

    May 15, 2010 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Ronno

    Henry is graded 100% for composition, and 80% for grammar. Thanks, Henry!

    May 15, 2010 at 5:21 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Henry

    The choice between honorable men and coward and butchers is an easy choice for me. War is dirty and full of mistakes, but some times we have no choce to fight evil. the moslem people are not the evil. It is their fanatic misinterpreters of Islam that are the problrm. We as a country have to stop global interventions and hel police the bad guys who are everywhere. This will give hope to the world that we are not out to conqer the world but get the bad guys who are killing their families and trying to intimidate them through fear! Power is evil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 15, 2010 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Ronno

    @roberto – Actually, the USA is very good, Israel is some good some bad, and the crusades were very bad, so I grade you 50% in history, and I grade you 50% in grammar. Of course, if you add both 50s together you get 100... Well done, roberto!

    May 15, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  17. tony

    daniel you pretty much don't seem like you finished school. you are talking about fighting fair with people who hides ied's all over the place.
    chuckster you are very ignorant. you probably never picked up quran in your life. you just sound like another red neck out of mississippi.

    May 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  18. roberto

    i feel all the bad peopel one day thay loss fihgt like what happen to usa in vitnam and north couria 1953 you are very bad usa and israil and the crousedo

    May 15, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Ronno

    Thank you, Belgium, for trying and convicting these self-righteous sociopaths. The sentences are relatively light, but thank you nonetheless.

    May 15, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Ed

    I love good news.

    May 15, 2010 at 5:38 am | Report abuse |
  21. Amy

    Everything is here friends, please
    enjoy viewing bar

    May 14, 2010 at 9:15 pm | Report abuse |
  22. victim of democrat hypocrisy

    I hope the FBI is watching Daniel, as he appears to be the next homegrown terrorist.

    Eight years wasn't enough for that terror recruiter. She should have gotten life!

    May 14, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Daniel-2

    Thank you,death from above,for showing that you're a true Tea Partier with that Tea Party lingo.

    May 14, 2010 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
  24. death from above

    Daniel get your head outta your ass...

    May 14, 2010 at 8:28 am | Report abuse |
  25. Achmed the dead terrorist

    The only good taliban is a dead taliban. Achmed the dead terrorist.

    May 13, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Mike

    I'm a dyed in the wool Liberal and I love the drones! They are cheap and effective – you know they are cuz the towel heads hate them so much, wah wah wah!

    May 13, 2010 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Daniel-2

    Quite well put,hate-sucks.Those filthy creeps who operate those ungodly drones with their 500lb.bombs are even more cowardly that those who plant IEDs,especially when they're hundreds of miles away from the action and in some air conditioned office sitting at a desk.But the right-wing fanatics who blog in here just don't see it that way.

    May 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Tim L.

    qmax you refering to my 42 post. What i meant by saying islam isnt a bad religion in itself. I was more referring to my dislike for the one that use it in the term you laid out meaning death to all. I was merely trying to state for the ones that think i might be racist and hate all of islam and muslims is far from the truth. I dislike the extremist.

    May 13, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Tim L.

    @hate sucks; who came after who first. They tried to blow up the world trade building a few years before they plotted 9/11. America has never went to war with anyone that hadnt provoked us or some allies to the u.s. America stands up for those who cant stand on thier own. Osama Bin traden claims he is fighting for the holly land from the aggressors, they are the aggressors not us. we could care less about there giant sand and rock filled kitty litter box. They kill to kill it doesnt matter who it is. lucky for us the live in the cave man days and dont have great technology over there.

    May 13, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  30. QMAX1234

    @ Tim L Quran says:

    And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. THEY IMITATE THE SAYING OF THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE OF OLD. ALLAH (HIMSELF) FIGHTETH AGAINST THEM (Arabic: qaatalahumu llahu anna yu'fakoona– Literally-May Allah KILL THEM) . HOW PERVERSE ARE THEY! S. 9:30

    In the Islamic Hadith it says:

    Narrated 'Aisha and 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas:
    When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "MAY ALLAH CURSE THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done. (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 427:)

    This doesn't sound peaceful to me.

    May 13, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  31. michael

    how do most of the worlds muslims find osama bin laden as a hero standing up to american oppression? that al quaeda figure head & his evil organization is responsible for the deaths of hundreds and thousands of muslims around the world along with numerous non muslims. what about the people in darfur sudan that were being massacared by janjaweed militants supported by their arab governemnt? If most muslims support Bin laden then that shows their complete hipocracy and their true nature. fine, just make america the scapegoat, but al qaeda will still continue their murders

    May 13, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  32. SALICE

    Anyone who thinks like Daniel is a coward! There is a war that is being fought on foriegn soil and here in America. Whatever, your political beliefs are doesn't matter. Support the troops and the fight against terrorism, even if you don't agree to the strategy. Daniel (and people like you) if you have a better way to fight this, you enlist and change the policies.

    May 13, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  33. hate-sucks

    Interesting – using roadside bombs is being called cowardly – but, dropping bombs from 20,000 feet is not – look at it this way folks – if they had drones and aircraft they would not need to plant IEDs to defend their country against the invaders.

    May 13, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  34. Chuckster

    Folks, I am signing off this station as I believe we have solved the world's problems and most efficiently beat this issue and each other up. Thanks for your time and may the force be with us!!!

    May 13, 2010 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
  35. karek40

    I believe it was Lenin who said Liberals are necessary idiots for a revolution.

    May 13, 2010 at 7:19 am | Report abuse |
    • Bob Jones

      No, Lenin talked about "useful idiots".

      This is also where the saying "first ones up against the wall" came from. After the revolution, you must first kill the liberals. Only then can you concentrate on the rest of society.

      May 18, 2010 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Calvin Hobbes

    This is laughable, 3 years, 5 years, 8 years? They will be running things while they are in prison and out doing the same thing again before the courts finish the paperwork on their trials. They want to fight? I have a solution for that, we can drop them off in Juarez they won't last long.

    May 12, 2010 at 9:24 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Rob

    Lennybaby- how can you call Daniel "moderate" when he is obviously WAY left? A monderate may not agree with the war but understands the need to be there and its purpose. He wouldnt be calling our military "murderers" while supporting indirectly supporting the Taliban rule. I dont wish anyone to die but the people in that country that are being killed are those who are plotting and attacking our soliders so that we will leave and allow a regime to go into power that will kill their own people if they dont share in their religious views. Understanding and considering both sides is moderate. Think about it.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Tim L.

    lenny all i can say buddy is wow.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Lennybaby

    @Disgusted with Warmongers.Nobody in their right mind can win with these right-wing nutjobs.It just goes to show how history has a way of repeating itself.The same was just as true back in the 1930's in Germany when the Nazis took over that country.All this blogging is a waste of time.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Tim L.

    I agree chuckster about wasting my time in here but i am bored so what will one do to pass the time but read anti-american nut jobs post there comments

    May 12, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Tim L.

    @disgusted nut bag show me the numbers where we have lost in afganistan. I bet you and Dick Chenney are best buds. You should go hunting with him.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Tim L.

    go figure cnn didnt post my last comment for Disgusted with warmongers

    May 12, 2010 at 5:59 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Chuckster

    @ Disgusted Moron, I guess Tim and I are getting the best advice from an expert that knows about the reaming thing ehhh??? Let me guess, you wear a Colostomy bag because you anus is falling out???

    May 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Disgusted with warmongers

    To: Tim L, and Chuckster
    You don't know it yet, but the U.S. has already lost the war...anyway, why don't you both go ream each other? It's the new gay U.S. army thing! For what it's worth, after nearly 10 years of fultility the MAJORITY of Americans DO want OUT of Afghanistan. That makes you both the "poster bone heads for a condom ad"!

    May 12, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Chuckster

    Tim L and Jugs, your wasting your time in this forum!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 5:04 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Jugs


    Daniel a moderate? Strange definition you go by.

    The drones are primarily used in Pakistan where our military ground forces can not go. They know this and use it to their advantage. So we changed the game. Calling the soldiers operating the drones terrorists is absurd. They are not trying to terrorize a population, they are trying to kill specific individuals. The ones using the population as human sheilds are the ones causing the terror. Hopefully that population comes to its senses and starts killing them on thier own so the UAV's will stop circling thier skies. It is that simple.

    And if you think for one second that the border region terrorist cares in the least about the plight of the palestinians, you are fooling yourself. They observe a stict religion that tells them they will have "heaven" in the afterlife if they die in the name of Islam. And their life on earth sucks, so why not.

    Sean, i do not dispute the number but you need to check you facts. Iraqi on Iraqi violence has taken many more lives than american bullets in that number you cite. So now the US is responsible for the sunni/shia division of Islam? Fool!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Chuckster

    And people wonder what is wrong with this country. I wonder what would happen if we Americans lost this country and we were destroyed and living like people in Afganistan. I wonder then if all this meely mouth discussion would mean anything???? We Americans have become too COMPLACENT here in America and take for granted all that we are and have. Thats fine I will be dust when that happens and all of our children will have to suffer and put up with the crap because of our weaknesses and willingness to do nothing to save America.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:50 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Tim L.

    No chuckster is just a good olboy TRUE to the RED,WHITE AND BLUE. Dont hate him because he is patroitic.He is fr the flag period.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Lennybaby

    @Chuckster.With all that hate spewing and right-wing lynch mob mentality,you're hardly the independent you claim to be or you wouldn't be attacking moderates like Daniel or anybody else who doesn't think the same way you do.The Tea Partiers do that.Are you one of them?

    May 12, 2010 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Tim L.

    Islam itself is not a bad religion, it is those who take it to the extreme that say believe in what we say or we will kill you. everyone to them are infidels. We the U.S. will always be the bad guys in their eye's regardless of our image good, bad or indefferent. If it hadnt been for the U.S. getting into the war in ww2 all of europe would be speaking german. Until the yanks came in hilter was pretty unstopable. look at the countries he domenated in the matter of months. europe was in no shape to stop what was happening to the jews at that time, and I dont think many people at that time knew what hitler and the ss was doing to this race of people, until the usa and russian soldiers came upon the camps they was held in. Mass destruction of any race shouldnt be allowed just because you dont like them or you think they are below your standards.These extremists are no different than hitler, well in a way they are because they dont care who die's. As long as their are people who do injustice to others, the USA will be there to help those who need help. You notice even the one's that dont like us when a tragedy happens IE earthquakes or any other natural disaster they exspect the U.S. to come help. Why you ask, because that is what we do we help we put aside or dislike for those who dislike us to help those in need.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Sean

    Europe is surrounded by Islamists, the Belgians havent been attacked to the best of my knowledge either...The problem in Europe is they have fresh memories of the earlier part of the 20th century where 50Million were burnt...Now they have no stomach for it, just ask those Dutch peacekeepers in Srebrenezia where they allowed the Serb mass murdering thugs to drag 8000 Muslims, old men and little boys away to be murdered...They are indeed cowardly, even the Brits arent gung ho for battle anymore...We need to repair our image after Iraq with Europe, thats doable but our constant pandering and taint scrubbing of Tel Aviv needs to stop, we will support and protect them but they need to understand that disobeying 100UN Mandates when we attack Iraq over 1 mandate makes us look like hypocrites internationally and lets face it...Europe didnt lift a finger to save the Jews 70 years ago, I dont see them doing anything now either.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Tim L.

    chuckster you have a point they would rather bash it than support it. I dislike most people that bash the U.S. comparing us to ss nazi, what ever. anyway there is no winning with these bone heads.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Sean

    Chuckles, this isnt Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia no matter how much you like the jackboots..This is a nation of free speach, even for morons.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Chuckster

    I am tired of trying to make a point with the BLEEDERS in this country. HEY folks if you like them so much move there. Also for the record I am not a tea party anything or a Democrat. I am an Independant who is looking out for America.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Tim L.

    Sean. we do it in the name of freedom, I agree we shouldnt have went to iraq that was good ol bush for ya. but at the same time look at the number of iraqi's that Suddam killed. we try to limit the civilians deaths when we attack. Civilians death happen there is no stopping that it's all part of battle. I would rather take the fight to them "extremist" then them bringing it to the U.S. People dont like the u.s.a. they dont like our culture, well guess what dont come here then and we wont come there.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Sean

    If the Generals were running the show Afghanistan Mecca and Medina would be glass parking lots these days..Im not so sure that would be a bad thing either, only the Pakis and Sauds preach that wahabiist crap thats the most violent anti American lingo going...Palestine Syria and other Mideast nations have a legit gripe due to our welfare payments to Israel but all we ever did to Pakistan and Saudi was to feed their armed forces and buy their oil...2 nations recognized the Taliban on 9-11, Saudi and Pakistan....They shouldve been dealt with by Bush, not coddled like his puppies

    May 12, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Sean

    Chuckster we killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians in 7 years,what was the reason behind that carnage? We are the biggest mass murderers of civilians on the planet since 1950 bar none. Nobody who understands 1st grade math can dispute the #s..Between Korea, Vietnam and this latest fiasco we are wearing the skull and crossbones that the SS officers wore...I love America but we shouldnt have to kill 100,000 Iraqis over something that began in Afghanistan now should we??

    May 12, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Tim L.

    @bledsoe go join daniel on the flight to pakistan tribal region. You people need to learn that drones do not carry bombs, as stated to daniel bombs fall. IE they depend on gravity this isnt ww2. we dont blankett an area with 2000, 500lbs bombs. we use smart missles that are guided to a known target. the cowards shouldnt have civilians in the house they are meeting at. also fyi it is other taliban people saying Oh the drone killed civilians no that is what you say most civilians I know dont carry rpg's and ak47 around.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Onesmallvoice

    @Chuckster.Could we cut the Tea Party lingo here?I'm refering to blog#28.Thank you.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Tim L.

    "ad" that is sorry for the typo.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Tim L.

    @Daniel hello dummy. They are not 500lbs bombs they are missles that are attached a bomb falls it doesnt not fly. If you hate it in america daniel why dont you move to the tribal region and see how you are treated by osama and company. you sir are not worth the oxygen you breath. you should be the poster child for a condom add.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Buzzman64

    Daniel, call it what you want. Terrorist or anti-terrorist seem to run equally with you. Pacivity in this area means you will obviously become one of the cows that these people lead. You will be brainwashed into doing the same things that the cowards wont do themselves. They are the Warpigs and will find themselves honorlessly sneaking around the ranks of the right until they are expunged. Wake up.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Chuckster

    How do cowardly butchers strap 50 lbs. of explosive on their bodies and blow everything up????? Men, women and children without any feeling or remorse in the name of a pathetic religion whose GOD says to convert or kill!!! I say SHAME ON ISLAM AND MUZLIMS FOR NOT TAKING CARE OF YOUR PROBLEM.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Chuckster

    @ Daniel, Fool you are a lost cause and I really don't care what you think or what you think you know. We are fighting Terrorism and you are with us or you are one of them.
    Remember, they came to our country and butchered 3000 people in just 1 hour. So now we must go to them and return the favor!!! At least we try to minimize the collateral damage.
    Their whole point is maximize the collateral damage, and this is WAR, look it up in the dictionary you dick and see what it says!!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Daniel

    @Chuckster.Are you trying to say that the cowardly butchers who operate those ungodly drones are not terrorists?How does one go about dropping 500lb.bombs from planes operated by remote control a hundred or so miles away on people without engaging in terrorism?After all,the people on the receiving end are equally dead.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  66. fazal

    This reminds me of Hitler's aying " I wanted to kill all jews but i left some lieve, so later the people of the world dhsould know why i killed the." Had he killed all them then this world would have been a safe place. No one is going to believe that all the killings around the world are because of jews, you want this world to turn into heaven the solution is simple kill all the jews.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  67. Chuckster

    Folks, you are wasting your time and energy on the "TARD" Daniel. Screw what he thinks, he is not an American or any citizen of worth. Heck, he could be a terrorist himself with a Daniel log in name. Stop wasting your time on this mangina and talk about the real issues.
    Daniel, you are a fool and an idiot.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  68. Chuckster

    Why did they not receive DEATH????? You know they were responsible for the mass killings of others. Shame on the LIMP WEINER BELGIANS!!!!! These were known TERRORISTS who should have been put out of their miseries. As usual Europe screws up, I guess they haven't paid enough through blood yet to get the big picture!! SHAME ON EUROPE!!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
  69. Lennybaby

    @Mike.Judging by the language you use,one would think that you were one of those foul speaking Tea Partiers,and everybody should know what kind of people they are by now.Please extricate yuorself from them.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:44 am | Report abuse |
  70. Mike

    Daniel, Drones don't have the capability to carry "500 lb bombs" Their payload is much smaller. Unlike the groups of daisy chained artillery rounds buried under the road or loaded into vehicles and detonated in public places with no regard for civilian casualties. Please extricate your head from your ass.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:42 am | Report abuse |
  71. Aon

    8 years sentence. You can get that for a DUI. How about some real time?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:57 am | Report abuse |

    They should have got the death penalty.that would hav sent a clear message to all the fanatic recruter wanabees,

    May 12, 2010 at 1:49 am | Report abuse |
  73. etheismann

    You have no opinion unless you've been there yourself to fight. If it was YOUR life on the line I am pretty sure YOU would be crying for any help possible. So please, do us all a favor Daniel and STFU....

    May 12, 2010 at 1:33 am | Report abuse |
  74. Onesmallvoice

    Very well put,DJ.We really need to let the Afghans determine their own future and not the right-wing thugs in Washinton,London,Paris or anywhere else.

    May 11, 2010 at 8:23 pm | Report abuse |
  75. DJ

    Nato should pull out of the whole region and leave those people to their own devices. If terrorism emanates from whatever faction ends up ruling Afghanistan then appropriate sanctions and air strikes etc. up to and including a punitive re invasion could be the best way of bringing these people to heel. For the most part though I believe that if left alone for long enough the passion and rage will dissipate and the attraction of Taliban rule will fade. Trying to impose western ideals in this place and time just wont work. Containment not confrontation

    May 11, 2010 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
  76. plunder


    May 11, 2010 at 5:20 pm | Report abuse |
  77. plunder

    Daniel, you are an idiot. How's that for raising the bar on civil discussion?

    May 11, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Alien Diver

    Now is the time to drop the big nuke starting with Saudi Arabia. Its the only way to stop the terrorism that is being funded by Royal Saudi Brats. Onward missile attacks. Most of them support themselves by growing or selling drugs. There is absolutely nothing the Arab world produces to justify its existance. Its nothing more than what the Columbian do, sell drugs, enslave people, decapitate and everything in the world that is ugly. Drop the bomb.

    May 11, 2010 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Rob

    And I suppose that car bombs and IED's do not kill civilians? And what about attacking a girls' school with poison gas? I think the drones operators are even more selective in their targets.

    May 11, 2010 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Art

    –a good AL-Qaeda- is put to soak in a nice pigs blood vat and simmered in a vat of pig jowls –baste every 30 min. with the best pig poop you can find .
    this folks you can serve at any arab holy site.

    May 11, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Bledsoe

    After seeing all this right-wing bigotry being blogged in here,I must agree with Daniel that they should try those butchers who operate those drones.I see absolutely nothing particularly courageous about slaughtering people from a hundred or so miles away by remote control.What kind fools do these warmongers take us for?Anybody with half a brain knows that when a 500lb. bomb explodes,it's doing to kill everybody in a certain radius and not just the so-called "militants".

    May 11, 2010 at 3:18 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Dineh Hastiin

    Unfortunately after these people serve their sentences they will be right back to douing what they were doing before, recruiting for al–Qaeda, except probably somewhere else. They are fanatics and will keep trying to kill as many people that do not believe in what they do.

    May 11, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    It's great to see other countries involved in this war on terror, but 3 to 5 years for recruiting terrorists. They will be out in no time doing it all over again or worse yet put on a suicide vest and blow themselves to hell which would cause many more deaths. These people are wild animals and should be treated as such. If they cannot be tamed then they need to be killed. And WAY TO GO UAV'S FIRING 18 MISSILES KILLING 14 OF THEM! MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEIR SOULS AS THEY BURN IN HELL FOREVER!

    May 11, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Dr. O. P. Sudrania

    Amazing face of fanaticism with a determined "Killing Stinct". Unparalled. Worth emulating as an inspiration, of course, I don't mean for the job as they do. God bless. This is a "Religion" which can really motivate people for a high powered suicidal/homicidal jihadi 'Genie'.
    Dr. O. P. Sudrania

    May 11, 2010 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  85. Iraq Paramedic

    I am glad to see that the other countries & peoples & law enforcement communities are actually watching & preventing the terrorist where they can. Good for them. Personally though I think I would just strip them of their citizenship & send them to oh let's say Saudi Arabia, Iran, Somalia, ect. instead of having tax payers support them for 8 years in prison.
    And now for Daniel, they are not drones, they are UAVs. I bet you think that IEDs, hiding in Mosques & killing innocent people with drugged up young boys wearing explosives is OK though huh! Daniel you are a lost soul & I pray GOD has mercy on you. Beyond that, grab a plane & come on over with the rest of us & get the "REST OF THE STORY".
    May GOD Bless & keep us all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    May 11, 2010 at 3:53 am | Report abuse |
  86. infidel

    Great news! Now they will be building a new mosque at ground zero. No kidding, Google it yourself. Just in case you were slipping back into a false sense of security, the camel jockeys are already here folks, locked and loaded. Wake up! The next insult; they will be recruiting for alquida at St. Peter's.

    May 11, 2010 at 1:48 am | Report abuse |
  87. greg

    Insane 1, sad but true, the "pretty liberal" people of the world are resoundly loved by al queda because you let them get away with it......

    May 10, 2010 at 9:25 pm | Report abuse |

    Were you diagnosed A.D.D

    May 10, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Robert Anderson

    Well Daniel, I was an intelligence analyst in the army. I knew countless friends that I trained with that fly drones that are based at Ft. Huachuca, AZ. You really need to brush up on the new ways that wars are fought. I have lost many friends from roadside bombs, sniper fire, insurgents hiding and firing, etc... Those cowardly butchers have many missions that helped save multiple lives. I have personally taken enemy lives that have killed young girls for going to school and little boys for playing soccer in certain parts in Afghanistan. Ohhh that’s right, the liberal ass media does not post those stories. I am glad of what I did when I was in service and would be more than willing to do it again. If it does make you so upset than do something besides type to help correct it. Hooah!!

    May 10, 2010 at 6:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • risab

      well ....Robert
      as you said that you worked as an intilegence analyst in the army and you should know better who created the al-qaeda and the taliban.
      responde me , but only the truth

      May 19, 2010 at 9:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • Robert Anderson

        Let me guess, you believe the Taliban was created by CIA? They were funded and given weapons before the regime went the other direction. I will tell you who the people were that I was fighting. They were people that were offered 4x the amount of money as the Afghan army would pay. The people behind the scenes that are running the operations are spoiled Saudi royalty, rich capitalist, and even some that have worked with US intelligence agencies. I do know where both the Taliban and al Qaeda come from; I was just there to help wipe them off the map.

        May 24, 2010 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
  90. insane1


    Whats wrong with you?
    And before you accuse me of being a right wing brainwashed nut job I will have you know I'm actually pretty liberal.
    I must point out that extreme views are always divisive and accomplish nothing.

    May 10, 2010 at 5:34 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Daniel

    They should also try those cowardly butchers who operate those godless drones slaughtering both "militants" and civilians alike,but they won't.That goes to show that JFK once said "life is not fair" rings quite true.

    May 10, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • dan

      @daniel you a terrorist sympathizer or something only a uneducated would stake a claim as you would. Let me guess Isreal is the aggressor in the middle east right.. Hezzbollah and Hamas are innocent.. i am starting to think its people like you that keep the media in business as well as voting our wonderful leaders in this country.. go back to school becuase your history and lack of education is quite annoying..

      May 18, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • some

      Funny how everyone forgets that muslims kill more muslims than non-muslims ever have or will.

      May 18, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Drone Operator

      Thanks Daniel. I enjoy what I do. And you are welcome for the freedom we provide cause the people we kill, would cut your head off, even if you are on their side.

      May 18, 2010 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |