April 29th, 2010
08:21 AM ET

Reminders of a hell for 1,000 men

This place was a cannery, for many years pumping out thousands and thousands of cans of fruit every day. But for one year, during Taliban control of Kandahar, it was something very different. This cavernous, and now eerie storage area became a prison, hell for a 1,000 men.  

Through it all, Popeye was here – he came when he was 13 to work in the cannery, and that was 45 years ago.  Popeye’s not his real name of course — the Canadian soldiers nicknamed him for his work ethic. He still fears the Taliban to the point where he doesn’t want his face shown, but wanted to show us what the prisoners left behind — drawings that paint a vivid picture of their misery.

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  1. Joshua Ludd

    And we kept and are still keeping how many people in prisons in gitmo and Iraq and Afghanistan as well as assorted CIA black sites???

    May 1, 2010 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Abel Arce

    when people don't believe in GOD, they will believe in everything.

    May 1, 2010 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  3. Noltisy

    Gandhi said it best...“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

    May 1, 2010 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
  4. Buddy

    When are people going to quit killing each other on the basis of some antiquated faerie tales commonly known as religion, which is nothing more than a tool for the powerful to remain powerful whether it be the Saudi Royals or the "Moral Majority" Holier Than Thou Republicans? Al Qaeda types cannot even fight their "jihad" without betraying the principles of their jihad. How many times do you see clumsy attempts at propaganda on the internet that show the forbidden ( according to the Taliban ) images of people?

    May 1, 2010 at 7:27 am | Report abuse |
  5. greg

    Sorry Karek, but you cannot possibly understand the meaning of the word evidence. There is absolutely no evidence for the existance of a creator. Your beliefs are simply a superstitious crutch to help you cope with life and your fear of death.

    May 1, 2010 at 7:25 am | Report abuse |
  6. Don

    Throughout history, men use religion for hiw own greed. How many war have men started under the name of religion. Religion may not be evil, but men is evil and greedy and will use whatever in his mean to get the result that he seeks. Where does religion comes from? men. Can anyone tell me that they have seen their god or who their god is and what he or she looks like? Is he black or white or brown? We made god looks like whatever it fits our belief.
    Why god is never on the losing side of the battle? God always blesses the strong and the rich. He never blesses the weak and stupid and lazy. I wonder why.

    May 1, 2010 at 12:08 am | Report abuse |
  7. david

    Wake up, Europe and America will be in the similar situation, if the flow of Muslin immigrant is not stop NOW

    April 30, 2010 at 8:02 pm | Report abuse |
  8. George


    April 30, 2010 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Tali Ban

    I was watching a Billy Graham crusade on TV last night. It was re-broadcast from 1958. 1958! Billy was talking about the 10 commandments.

    Billy is using his God-given gifts to serve God in the best way a human knows how. And would the world be such a terrible place if the 10 commandments were followed?

    If religion is bad, are the 10 commandments bad?

    April 30, 2010 at 5:08 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Inconsistent

    Ummmm....Taliban...Cannery...prison...let's stay on subject.

    April 30, 2010 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Archer D. Bowman

    First, I laugh at the comment policy: CNN encourages you to add a comment to this discussion. You may not post any unlawful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, pornographic or other material that would violate the law. All comments should be relevant to the topic and remain respectful of other authors and commenters. You are solely responsible for your own comments, the consequences of posting those comments, and the consequences of any reliance by you on the comments of others. By submitting your comment, you hereby give CNN the right, but not the obligation, to post, air, edit, exhibit, telecast, cablecast, webcast, re-use, publish, reproduce, use, license, print, distribute or otherwise use your comment(s) and accompanying personal identifying and other information you provide via all forms of media now known or hereafter devised, worldwide, in perpetuity.

    Second, I laugh at all you posting fools out there who let your lizard brains get in the way of rational thought.

    April 30, 2010 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Fred

    Other than the Iranian regime which is aspiring to be like the Nazi's except with a Hitler lite...

    The taliban pose the biggest threat to the world. They are pure evil pretending to be motivated byGod. They are much much closer to Satan. The war is just and the need is great. The taliban like Al Queda needs to be erased from the earth.

    April 30, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Mike Woodring

    Tom, where do you get your misinformation about Billy Graham? He never sold prayer cloths. Never. EVER. There is some other t.v. evangelist that did so, but it was certainly not Billy Graham.

    I think before you shoot of your mouth, perhaps you should check out your facts. It's obvious you haven't done so in this case. Now you only look stupid.

    April 30, 2010 at 2:57 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Tom

    Look again at Billy Graham, He got his start hawking pray cloths for 2 dollars.. He said it would heal you. Phony to the end. This was not a man of God but another rip off that was able to sell him self. A fool is born every minute. He knew how to spot them , said what they wanted to hear. Seperated them from their money.

    April 30, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
  15. RC

    News Flash for Daniel-2. The Democrats control all branches of the government. So it is not the right wing thugs keeping us in Afghanistan. It's the Democrats. They can pull us out anytime they wish. Let go of the hate.

    April 30, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Erek

    I personally love how almost every comment field underneath these videos is almost irrelevant to the above video. Way to be people.

    April 30, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  17. MAJ Pain

    Taliban control of Kandahar was a picnic compared to what the Jews suffered at the hands of the SS.

    April 30, 2010 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
  18. devin

    Dan I agree let God take care of it. Saganhill why so much anger?

    April 30, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Dan Lafayette,IN

    You said it Kieth, it is a shame that people would distort their religion so much to condone the killing of other people who disagree with them. Although God the father, son and holy spirit will reign forever those who will kill in his name will burn in hell forever!

    April 30, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  20. b yarbrough

    saganhill, why are you so mad?

    April 30, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Angry Citizen

    It seems there is hope for Afghanistan and the United States and allies have made this possible. Sadly I don't believe it will last due to the constant unending desire of the militant groups to force the population to live under their form of religion. We can't stay there forever and the population is not strong enough to stop those fools.
    For my own beliefs, I was raised in the Baptist religion but have formed my own opinions based on more scientific proof.
    This has led me to be where I am now and I am ever increasingly angry at the human species for squandering our opportunity to reach for the stars. In my opinion the invention of the worlds some 5000 different religions around the planet, has been the cruelest thing visited upon our species. It has caused more strife and wasted more brain power than any other thing ever! The billions of people and the trillions of dollars in untold wealth that has been wasted in meaningless worship of something that has never existed, is in the end going to be a major reason for our extinction as a species.

    We could have been traveling to meet other civilizations by now if only we had not been led astray by religion. It makes me angry and sad.

    April 30, 2010 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  22. Keith Petersen

    There are a lot of unhappy, restless, angry people on this blog/in this world. Rest for a man's soul is available only through peace with God, and that peace is available only through a Divinely appointed Saviour. See Matthew 11:28.

    April 30, 2010 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  23. Mojo Wilkins

    With all the comments about Billy Graham, it's sad to see the line between legitimate atheism and militant, bigoted hate has been crossed. Sad.

    April 30, 2010 at 8:18 am | Report abuse |
  24. Mike Woodring

    Don Thomas- What you wrote about Billy Graham goes beyond despicable.

    Where do you get the idea that he is crooked or after the money? Perhaps you should go back and read my posts. He has NEVER been about "donate, donate, donate".

    You are the very type of negative person devoid of good character who contributes to the erosion of good morals and values in this country. So much has probably gone so wrong in your life that you became hopelessly and forever cynical. You are certainly not an example that I would want my children to follow.

    I've seen what Billy Graham has done to help humanity. What have YOU done? Very little, I am quite sure.

    Shame on you.

    April 30, 2010 at 8:02 am | Report abuse |
  25. Ray Short

    Okay- I give up. If a man cannot dedicate himself to a cause that is just and right (like the salvation of hid fellow men) without receiving criticism, then what hope is there in this world? There are truths in this world and men like Billy Graham work hard to be the light that will illuminate those truths. Even if God did not exist, the work that Billy Graham has done if viewed from a purely humanitarian perspective (minus Christ) would be laudable. Because he has done it in the name of Christ he receives criticism.
    In a world full of fallen heroes like Tiger Woods and many others who break the trust we have with our kids and who they look up to, I am glad to see my 13 year old son reading a book by Franklin Graham, We need men of character in a world without values. Billy Graham represents what is good about mankind. America is a better place because of him and his commitment to the lost.

    April 30, 2010 at 7:22 am | Report abuse |
  26. Iraq Paramedic

    Again we here from another coach potatoe who can't get off the coach & can't even remember what this article is about, and the winner is " Don Thomas". Hey Don you ever done anything besides study, as you call it, people's no no spot, LOL !! LOL !! it is an external spienchter or in laymans terms, your ass hole.
    I use to read the comics for some laughs over here but you people are much more entertaining.
    May GOD Bless & keep us all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 30, 2010 at 7:18 am | Report abuse |
  27. Don Thomas

    Yep Billy Graham is a modest Saint that has done far more good then he ever has bad. And the second he's dead and farting dust thirty men will start telling stories about how Billy used to like to stick his wee wee in their no no spot. You know, the no no spot where the poop comes out. Then after that some foreign country will release a video of him whipping a five year old Asian girl until she is nearly dead and he manages to achieve his own little happy ending. Don't kid yourself for a minute, a man that gathers thousands and thousands of fervent followers and obedient supporter is getting a big fat stiffy from the multitudes of support he gets. He doesn't give a damn about a God, and probably lost his faith soon after he became a preacher. He just got addicted to the power, the power of having millions of people believe that he represented something that he doesn't. If there is a God, he's certainly not like a phone sex operator and charges so much per minutes that you get to talk to him. But yet continually the only thing out of Billy Grahams mouth is "Donate, donate, donate. Donate until it hurts, because Billy can do much more good with it then you can. He's a snake oil salesman that doesn't even need the snake oil. He can just convince you that you have let what he calls God into your life, swipe your credit card through his machine, and your off to the glory land...

    April 30, 2010 at 6:16 am | Report abuse |
  28. Iraq Paramedic

    Oh yea, Murray Kat, you are smoking some good stuff bud. There where no murders, no sodomy or rape, maybe a little torture & I mean a little like scare tactics & sleep deprivation. The rest of that stuff is just media hype to sell air time. As I said above, grab a plane & come over & help & get the real story.

    April 30, 2010 at 5:39 am | Report abuse |
  29. Iraq Paramedic

    People are correct this is about a prison in Afghanistan. And by the way the #1 POST was from someone talking about disbelief & hatred of GOD & his faithfull followers.
    Yes this event with the Afghan man Popeye is good news & I hope this man sees his country get some peace & prosperity. HOORAH to all the military, DOD, DOS, civilian contractors & civilians who helped make it happen. For those who like to armchair quarter back this war; get on a plane & come help the rest of us if you have the balls!!!!!!!!
    Oh am I being non christian with that statement, because I believe wholey & souly in GOD & his son JESUS CHRIST.
    May GOD bless & keep us all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 30, 2010 at 5:05 am | Report abuse |
  30. Murray Kat

    The taliban cook up a mean prison but they may have been taking notes from Abuib & Guantonamo. Conosuers of torture know that like a fine wine from france no one cooks up torture like the half wit American European and Canadian boys we call soldiers.
    Beginning in 2004, accounts of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, including torture[1][2], rape[1], sodomy[2], and homicide[3] of prisoners held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq (also known as Baghdad Correctional Facility) came to public attention. These acts were committed by personnel of the 372nd Military Police Company of the United States Army together with additional US governmental agencies.[4]

    April 30, 2010 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
  31. M.F.

    How can anyone ever deny God? Take a look around you people. Have you taken notice of this incredible world we live on? Look at our modern technology....Amazing. You think this all "just happened"? How can anyone not look up at the stars on a clear night and think there is no God. Don't fail to notice all the little things in life that really are miracles. Something that seems as simple as a flower blooming, or a spider web. pretty flippin cool. I am not going to force anyone to believe as I do,( I am a church goer!) but I am not going to apologize for what I believe either. To much hate in the world. We are all in this together so we might as well try to get along, and be respectful to all. No one is perfect. NO ONE. We are all going to die someday. How do you want to be remembered?

    p.s. I don't believe religion should be used as a way for one (or many) to get gain. I don't believe that is how God intended it to be.

    April 30, 2010 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
  32. JL

    For EZ. As I said mistakes have been made, war is far from a perfect state. None of them diminish the purpose of this war, to protect innocent lives and to prevent a repeat of 9/11 or is that what you would prefer??? Any perceived sins are more than compensated for by the billions of dollars sent overseas every year to the victims of poverty, starvation, tryranny and natural disaster and by the sacrifies of our military over the past 100 years.

    P.S. I'm not a member of BO's administration, I've paid my taxes.

    April 29, 2010 at 10:06 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Mike Woodring

    For Emile Zola- It is clear that you do not like Billy Graham and that you think he is a fraud.

    However, I encourage you to go out on the internet and look for term, "Modesto Manifesto". It is a set of guidelines that Graham's organization put in place in 60 years ago to avoid scandals and to keep everyone accountable to themselves, each other, and the Lord.

    Regarding Billy Graham's comments about Jews- No question about it. He made those comments. But while you paid attention to them, it is clear you paid no attention to what he later said about them.

    Read on: When the tapes were publicly released, Graham stated, "Although I have no memory of the occasion, I deeply regret comments I apparently made... They do not reflect my views, and I sincerely apologize for any offense caused by the remarks," and "If it wasn't on tape, I would not have believed it. I guess I was trying to please... I went to a meeting with Jewish leaders and I told them I would crawl to them to ask their forgiveness." According to Newsweek magazine, "The shock of the revelation was magnified because of Graham's longtime support of Israel and his refusal to join in calls for conversion of the Jews."

    Emile, have never you said anything you regretted? Imagine how it would be if everyone held the worst thing you've ever said against you and didn't forgive you. How would you like that?

    I personally know people who have been led to Jesus Christ because of Billy Graham's efforts.

    And finally, for the others out here that claim Billy Graham is a fraud and charlatan, I defy anyone to find one single instance of financial impropiety in his organization. You won't because there aren't any.

    April 29, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Phil

    There are no atheists in a fox hole.

    April 29, 2010 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Carol Gorman

    It is almost amusing how the "right-wing" thugs are blamed for everything from the Inquisition on!
    If some of you left-wingers would look around, you could find thugs among yourselves. A perfect example is the beating of a Bobby Jindal aide and her boyfriend. Her leg was broken in 5 places.
    His jaw and chin were broken. How about the union thug that attacked a black man in a wheel chair who was trying to sell American souvenirs near a Tea Party meeting. Anyone with a brain can see where the violence is coming from. For one of your commentors to refer to "right-wing thugs" and link these people with a Taliban prison is ludicrous!

    April 29, 2010 at 6:03 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Emile Zola

    For JL. And what type of history are you talking about. In the docuemntary "Taxi to the Dark Side" tells the true story of a taxi driver that went to pick up some passengers and was captured by the invaders and taking to Kandahar where he was beaten to death by his captors and so happened with 137 more prisoners. They were beaten to pulp, made puree that according to some accounts they could have been pushed through the bottom of a door just like regular mail. I don't know what history are you talking about. Lately, and this time under the Obama administration, three prisoners were taken by force from their cells in Guantanamo, taken to a black box and tortured so bad that their killers couldn't disloge the rags used for waterboarding from their mouths and when they were killed, they were taken back to their cells, where their killers made it appear as if they had committed suicide, with hands tied behind their backs. It's better to read ths stories from other sources than the fixnews network. Those are not news, those are lies disguised as journalism. What you want to believe is your problem, but trying to change the truth to fit your agenda is your problem, not mine. BTW, even the figure for the victims of the twins towers is incorrect. According to unbiased media reports, the final count was 2,752. Whe we are talking about tragedies, you are not supposed to round off figures. It's only when you're filing your taxes, that by reading your comments, I feel you don't pay yours.

    April 29, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Emile Zola

    Now, lets handle Billy Graham. I haven't met, hear or seen a "Christian" pastor that hasn't put money ahead of religion. In the company I used to work for, we had a joke about Billy Graham and it was that Billy wasn't doing good, but great. I don't recall the Bible telling us how Christ had mansions, Rolls Royces, TV stations and with a dynasty that would rival those of the Chinese. The Christ that I saw, learned form and read didn't even have a place to call His own. According to the epistoles from the disciples, when they were to go to Rome and wanted to know how to distinguish the true Christians from the Romans, they reply was: By their actions, you will know them. I guess that by today standards of materialims, they would be considered commnunists, socialists, because they would share every thing with those less fortunates and now, these phony "pastors" that preach the prosperity gospel are more for the dollar god than for Christ and that is not what Christianity, real Christianity is all about. If you see them having a ball in this valley of tears, I think they will have thier true reward, but better travel light, it's going to be quite hot down there. These wolves in sheep's skin can fool the flock, but can't fool God. You have been warned. Let's not forget that Billy was caught speaking evil of the Jews when Nixon had him "praying" with him. Billy is as phony as a three dollar bill.

    April 29, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  38. JL

    You are obviously someone who does not know history to compare Abu Gharib, Guantanamo, Kandahar, Baghram AB to a gulag or a Taliban prison. Did we make mistakes handling these prisoner, certainly. Were these prisoners treated the way prisoners were treated in Stalin's gulags or a Taliban prison, absolutely not!!! Don't even compare waterboarding to being worked to death or being hung with piano wire.

    In case you forgot 2800 innocent Americans were slaughtered on 9/11/01. Our enemies have repeatedly stated their intention to inflict even greater death and destruction on us. They are actively seeking WMDs (evidence was found in Afghanistan) to use against us. WE ARE AT WAR with an enemy who will not stop until they have achieved their aims to destroy us!

    BTW, enemy combatants and enemy POWs are NOT protected by the Constitution. Also most of the detainees that have been released from Guantanamo have returned to the battefield to kill once again.

    As far as hypocrisy goes, why don't you go to Afghanistan as a social worker and right some of the perceived wrongs. When the Taliban kidnap you and hold you for ransom, you can apologize to them for America's sins, maybe they won't behead you.

    April 29, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Emile Zola

    The media has lot of nerve reporting on the hell for 1,000 men. I'm going to have to ask for a definition of hell a la Bill Clinton. Has our media already forgot about Abu Gharib, Guantanamo, Kandahar, Baghram AB and the rest of our infamous gulags? At least with the Taliban, the guy is still alive, isn't he? He is telling the story, which is quite the opposite with our prisoners and remember that Cheney and Bush knew from day one that the majority of them, 95% according to the Red Cross, were innocent and they could care less. The media shouldn't criticize the Taliban or any other organization or nation for terrorism or torture when if they have done it, we did it best. It's hypocrisy to chastise others for the same crimes, sins when we are experts a it. BTW, we do have, or used to have a Constitution, the Taliban did not, ergo, our criticism of them is hypocrsiy to the nth degree. We should, instead of criticizing others or nations, stop our evil ways and then, maybe then, we could throw stones, but not when we are up to the neck on war crimes and violations galore against our Constitution.

    April 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  40. JL

    Comment on Story.

    The Taliban have committed atrocities against their own people for 2 decades. They provided a haven for an organization that murdered 2800 innocent Americans. They are playing for keeps. Hatred motivates them. We should not and we cannot leave until the job is done. If we leave before it is complete (i.e. Taliban is erradicated and/or Afghan government can defend itself and its people), expect another 9/11 where more innocent people will die. Worse yet, we will open the possibility of a nuclear armed Pakistan falling under fascist Islamic control. Is that a simple enough explanation for all of you left-wingnuts?

    Comment on Billy Graham.

    While I have not followed Billy Graham, he has not forced anyone to listen to him (unlike the Taliban or Islam), he has not made the women who do listen to him feel like sex slaves, servants, or less than human (unlike the Taliban or Islam), he hasn't uttered one word of hate that I know of (unlike the Taliban or Islam). Monetary donations are only a tool to support his efforts.

    Comment on Faith

    "For those who do not believe, no explanation is sufficient. For those who do believe, no explanation is necessary."

    April 29, 2010 at 5:10 pm | Report abuse |
  41. stupid tax payer

    get the hell out of there and let those ungrateful bstrds kill each other until only one remains then kill him

    April 29, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Ron (Denver)

    Well, I'm no atheist, more of an agnostic. I have nothing against those who have deep religious beliefs. What I object to is the continuous proselytizing. I do not care to hear about other's religious views, nor do I wish to live my life under the "giudance" of any particular religion. In my view, religion has been and will always be, the cause of most misery in the world. If you doubt it, look at the attitudes of the so-called Christians who have posted remarks here about their beliefs be the "one true" belief. This is all so much BS that it makes me wonder how humanity has survived for so long.

    In the USA, freedom of religion is also freedom from religion.

    I believe in science and the betterment of mankind through science. I do not wish to live in a cave or with my head in the sand, believing in some book written by men of questionable motives or preached to by people or organizations who do not live in the world most people inhabit.

    So, if this makes me an atheist, hater, or whatever your adjective du jour may be, then so be it.

    As to the mess in Afghanistan, this war was brought on by the godless and lawless Taliban. They were harboring a group of mass murders. They had their chance to do the right thing and hand these perverts over to justice. Instead, they chose to fight, knowing they were in for a royal butt kicking.

    Overall, Afghanistan will be better off without the extremeists in power. Women are no longer such chattel, adn all children have a chance at education. Their society will trive.

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." – Edmund Burke

    April 29, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Norm

    Oh cool, someone new to pray for.!!

    April 29, 2010 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Michael

    Jesus loves you

    April 29, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Erik M

    It's staggering to see people with some intelligence stating the Bible as being antiquated, ancient, religious dogma. You would think that these same people would know their history. That men and women with far greater minds were Christians and followed the Christian faith seems to escape their studies. Most of the founding fathers of the United States were Christian. Some of the greatest scientists that ever lived were Christian. Yet here we are today with half wits on an electric soap box deluding themselves into thinking they are "smarter" than those that came before them. I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and he will come to judge both the living and the dead. I believe the Bible is the word of God delivered through the hands of men inspired by the Holy Spirit. I also believe that it takes far stronger faith to believe that there is no God. To believe that we just live and die for no other reason than some cosmic goo that developed into millions of different living organisms and life forms take far greater faith. You have your faith and I have mine. The difference is that if your faith is the correct one then no big deal – but if my faith is the correct one then a lot of you are in for a big surprise 🙂

    April 29, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Jeff

    Terrorist prisoners should be given kittens and puppies to help them feel better about being prisoners, not Billy Graham books or boxes of Golden Grahams. Because no one will ever get enough of that golden crisp.

    April 29, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  47. hey mo

    I really don't like athiests, they are mindless fools that think all that is here just happened. Once they are on thier death bed they start to really think. You think you know, but actually your just guessing. Thier is one relegion and that is Christianity. So what do you athiests do on Christmas and Easter, sacrifice some chickens or something?

    April 29, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  48. mark

    How can anyone have anything bad to say about Billy Graham? He has dedicated his life to serving God and making this earth a better place. I will say a prayer for you who made the derogatory comments. God bless you.

    April 29, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  49. mack

    t;his is about a prison. there is nothing about religion.
    bible bangers need to go somewhere else!

    April 29, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Papa123

    I was brought up in a Christian home but I believe that people of today like to follow Religion rather than following God. At the end of the day, we are all the same and so the faith one follows should not matter as much but rather what they are doing to make the world a better place.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Papa123

    They should have a memorial for the prisoners that the Taliban were holding captive. They deserve some recognition. End of.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Leprakawn

    @Joe R.:

    And what faith do you happen to follow? Can you prove that it is 110% legit? Please, do share.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Joe

    I hate these news stories that try to force you to watch video. If I'm at work or in a hurry I don't want to have to wait for a video. How about including text and video versions with all stories like some news sites do?

    April 29, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Papa123

    Why can't the World just be peaceful, whether one believes in God or not should not be a reason for us to argue, we should all aim to make the World a better place than wasting our breaths arguing and allowing the World to become even more corrupt.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Papa123

    This is amazing, I agree with what popeye was saying about there being hope for Kandahar, because in all honesty, Afghanistan has suffered enough. Hopefully one day, those prisoners dream and popeye's dream come true.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  56. stimpy

    Daniel-2, isn't bugging out and leaving the country on its own what we did in the 90's? Isn't that what we did when we wimped out in Somalia? Yeah that worked well.

    April 29, 2010 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Adam

    @ W.N. Sanabria

    God is not looking for a 'recommendation.' He's looking for a relationship with You. How can you expect to have a relationship with someone you never talk to???

    April 29, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Adam

    @ Steve

    Steve – You are a fool. You talk of matters that you do not know. Look around you! EVERYTHING points to the fact that there is a God and to openly mock him is a mistake on your part. God did not set his laws in place 'just to make you feel guilty.' He put them in place on our behalf, so that we may live a good life, but because of our sinful nature, we fail to uphold those laws and hopefully realize just how much we need God. The bible does not command that you give 10% of your income nor does Billy Graham. That is a mere sugguestion. Billy Graham is getting paid by those who love the same God he does, for doing God's work. They give to him because they want to give to him, not because they are 'Blind.' To be blind is to think that life can exist without a God.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  59. vkmo

    critical, JL, bm5, cam, JC, JT and others - you will be REALLY shocked when you read this article published in Pakistan's paper Dawn: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/lahore/jindan-kaur-of-cheechonkemalian-840 Let me kinow what you think. It's a lot worse than what Taliban have done in Afghanistan. That was done by Taliban's grandparents and their role models.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Critical Thinker

    @JC and Karak40// That's pretty bold talk from someone who's guiding principles and life perspective is solely based from a book who's opening chapters start out with a talking snake. Have either of you seen a talking snake? Just wondering. God is love, unless of course you happen to be an Amalakite, Hittite, Jebusite and all the other ancient people who happen to be in the way of your loving god. I'm won't bother expounding on Jephthah's poor daughter, or the utter nonsense of whale taxi's, and talking donkey's, or the B.S ark story whose origins began with the story of Gilgamesh. Not to mention that all CREDIBLE Archeologist state to a man the Exodus account never actually happened. Then of course there's the Codex Sinaiaticus which brutalizes the shred of remaining hope for anyone making a marginally cogent argument that the bible is somehow the infallible word of dog...

    But sure, you two have obviously cornered the market and all manner of esoteric and diving truth.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Joe R.

    LOOOOOOOOOOL! Atheists continue to attack a God they don't even believe exists! They also insult the intelligence of those who have faith in God and yet, they're not intelligent enough to actually prove their own beliefs are correct (i.e. the THEORY of evolution, the Big Bang THEORY, etc.). How funny!

    April 29, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Super Coach

    Please keep your religion out of my politics. They don't mix (re: Iran, Saudi Arabia in the present day; plenty of Christian countries in days gone by). The worst bigots and least Christ-like people I've ever met have been (supposedly) devout Christians. When I was in the middle east it was muslims who were unbelievably intolerant. These and other episodes of dealing with the faithful have led me to the conclusion that the root of all evil is the concept of "god" and the blind devotees who follow. Follow the Golden Rule without some omnipotent being watching over and controlling everything, and the world will improve. Then, everybody will find some other reason to hate each other. Humans are just stupid.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  63. JL

    Upperdeck, bm5, you guys are out of it. The godless communists and fascists have killed more innocents in the name of their aethist utopia then Christians ever did. Additionally western leftists are going to have to understand that there are bad guys on this planet but because of their moral ambiquity thay can't tell the difference between good and evil. To call Billy graham evil for preaching while ignoring or downplaying the fact that the Taliban are evil despite their well known and documented atrocities and tyrannical intentions is an example of this.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  64. steve

    Religion is a tool of terrorism....it doesnt even matter which religion it is. All religions scare weak minded people into doing what they want!

    April 29, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Jeff

    What's odd is that this article was about prisons. Yet, the majority of you decided to discuss the downfall of American society due to either christianity or lack there of. Really? Come on. The downfall is not from christianity or a religion, it is from ignorance and a complete lack of responsibility. And rap music. Oh, and Ted Koppel.

    50% of Americans are too nieve and ignorant about what is going on, the other 50% just don't care.

    For the tree-hugging hippee who came up with the six rules to live by, you are an idiot. Just thought I should let you know.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  66. flossmore

    Ignorance runs amok on this blog. So many of you are convinced of things that can not be true. Religion should come from the heart, not out of any mortals mouth. This is what is killing this world. Humans don't need a temple, or a prophet, or a Billy Graham for that matter. Religion should come from within......remember .....holy-war is an oxymoron!

    April 29, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Been There, Done that

    You wrote about Popeye, "the Canadian soldiers nicknamed him for his work ethic." If you did a little research, you would know that the Americans named him, as he worked there when the Americans built the Kandahar PRT in 2003. The Americans turned the PRT over to the Canadians in 2005 and Popeye remained in their employ.

    April 29, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  68. momo

    right woing thugs, sound like guy Rachel Madow on MSDNC

    April 29, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  69. devils advocate

    Hey everybody look at me....I choose to try and push my religeous beliefs on others in a CNN forum that has nothing to do with religion!! Yay, I feel better about myself because now people are listening to me and I get to pretend I know what I am talking about!!

    April 29, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Mike

    Ahhh...poor terrorists!

    April 29, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  71. vkmo

    Taliban got their coaching from their grandparents. You will be really shocked to read this account from Pakistan's newspaper Dawn: http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/local/lahore/jindan-kaur-of-cheechonkemalian-840
    This article is about the atrocities committed 63 years ago against minorities, when Pakistan was first created in 1947. It's a lot worse than what Popeye encountered in their Afghanistan prison.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
  72. HAHAHA!

    Religion is for the weak minded.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  73. gking

    It's good to see CNN pointing out the horrors of a Taliban prison instead of rehashing some old story about Guantanamo. Maybe Americans aren't the only evil force in the world.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  74. bm5

    Cam – you hit it on the spot, and I'm guilty!

    Good comment.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Cam

    Is it just me, or does this article have anything to do with religion? Why do the feeble-minded always proselytize like parrots? It's everywhere now, and it's just poor manners, an artifact no doubt of a poor family upbringing. When you interrupt a discussion and change the subject to suit yourself, it's rudeness. It's getting to the point where I can't even stand to read news of a scientific nature because apparently the red flag word "science" attracts stupid evolution comments, no matter the subject.

    Heck, think I'll go find a nice religious discussion somewhere and vehemently push my beliefs regarding impedance matching on antique telephone receivers or how to make a baking soda volcano.


    April 29, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
  76. steve kimmel

    I talk to god tool I tell him how i feel about what he did to the Hatians, the little alter boys and the the normal americans bothered by right ring christians. i hate the idea of god let alone his horrible legacy.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Thomas

    To FreddieK (and others listening)-
    What are you going to do with people who refuse to follow your six rules? I know, lock them up in an old cannery building!

    April 29, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  78. bm5

    Many of you don't get it. The reason people are down on Christianity is because of the Right Wing's exploitation of it to promote evil. They had the government for many years, yet they built no security fence on the border, allowed 9/11, and abortion is in essentially the same state.
    Wars of choice, not necessity.
    Corporate dominance over every facet of our life.

    We need balance – so go back to secular government. I am a Christian, but there's no way I'm going to say the God told me it's evil to help others (that is, to be liberal / progressive instead of evil / neocon).

    Let's have some good old conservatives back, not the Sarah Palin idiots of today, but they type who will debate something on it's merits rather than bigoted emotional appeals. I can vote for some of them, but will not vote for the radicals convinced we are heading towards socialism.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Mike Woodring

    If all of you people who call Billy Graham a criminal, or evil, or a moneygrubber, then where is your proof? Give me a single instance in which his organization, BGEA, has engaged in financial impropriety.

    Let me tell you people something: Billy Graham, for the last 60 years, has been on salary at BGEA and not just taking money at his whim. He is paid commensurate to what a Pastor of a large church would be paid.

    He has preached in more countries and to more people than anyone in history. Millions upon millions of people will attest to his ability to lead them Christ. TO CHRIST! Not to Graham's bank account. It has never been about money for Billy Graham. It has been about helping to save souls.

    So if you want to give him a black eye, then at least have some justifiable evidence of his misdeeds. You'd better look pretty hard, too, because you just won't find them.

    Why does it bother so many of you that other people have a deep faith in God? Do you feel threatened by that? If so, then God has more power over you than you thought.


    April 29, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  80. DAS

    Sounds just like ABUGRAIB In GUANTANMO

    April 29, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Why

    The problem with your view on christianity is that you do not like to give up control. God isn't some radom guy up in the sky wanting to manipulate and make you worship a farse. It's all about relationship. How you look at God is your choice. No one is going to force you to change your mind. But in the near future God will prove himself to you in more than what is around you. What I don't understand is why you people have suck hatred towards those of us who are living a life of Grace. Granted not very many christians show grace to people, but that shouldn't give all of us a bad name. I mean the Taliban believe that their god says that if people don't believe in me they must die because they are my enemy. Yet a lot of people still want to talk peace with them.
    Please if I'm wrong let me know, and don't just use empty words, prove it to me that I am wrong.

    April 29, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
  82. jc

    "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those that are perishing". Like it or not, eventually you WILL have to pick a side wether you believe or not. Sounds like when Islam comes with the sword they will have alot of new followers in America.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  83. albert

    This is only campaign against the people you hate. After nine years you fond it.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  84. Upperdek

    Sorry to say, your "2 cents" are worth about... two cents.
    Graham is a criminal, preying (not praying) on the weak-minded, illiterate masses, in the way that purveyors of religion have always done. Falwell, Robertson, Graham... all the same. Organized crime. They need to be shut down! The only thing I can give these guys credit for, is keeping a straight face while they stand their and 'preach' their poisonous lies.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  85. jc

    Freddie you have just went against the very thing you are promoting. By eliminating "ancient religious dogma " you are taking away a basic right to believe in faith which if you could actually do that would totally squash your rule #5 and 6. Can anyone tell me exactly what offends them about the words or actions of Jesus Christ? Not Christian humans but Jesus himself?

    April 29, 2010 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  86. bm5

    Billy Graham, and other evil men like him who profit off twisting God's words into some fascist pipe dream of racism, bigotry, hatred and neglect of those whom have the least.
    Pat Robertson is another of the evil ones. Man, the hypocrisy these people display is just amazing.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  87. Carl David

    Christology before Ideaology.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
  88. christian by faith

    all of us have faith in someone... some chose to "blindly" believe in themselves. What science tries to force on us, "evolution to a better society", is not really evolution but devolution. Devolution of morals, matter, etc. I prefer to "blindly" believe in God than believe in the imperfections of humanism. At the end, no matter what you atheist, antichristian, and amoralist say, the Truth will reign for eternity. Try to come up with better excuses to justify your guilt of sin. Blame preachers of taking peoples money, mock christians for trying to uphold morals that denigrating society rejects, but know this, life is not short...earthly life is...but life is eternal... the question is how and where would you live it!

    April 29, 2010 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  89. FreddieK

    We need to replace ancient religious Dogma with something that benefits us all today. Here is my go at it:
    (1) The only reason one human being has the right to use lethal force against another human being is for self defence.
    (2) Every human being must ensure that every other human being has adequate food, shelter and medical aid to maximize each human beings life.
    (3) Every human being must ensure that the planet is maintained in a pollution free state and animals and vegetation continue to exists in balance with sustainable human population levels.
    (4) Every human being has the responsibility to control human population growth to ensure that natural resources are sustainable.
    (5) Every human being has the responsibility to protect every other human being from abuse / bullying/ slavery/ brainwashing/ forced prostitution etc..
    (6) Every human being has the responsibility to share their knowledge, insights, experiences and technology to promote the first 5 tenants,

    April 29, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  90. jc

    All you guys will denounce Billy Graham because he has faith in God and trusts him and you will make fun of anyone that supports or agrees with him and at the same time you put YOUR faith in Obama and his policies who takes way more than 10% of your wages and doesn't even give you a chance to vote before he takes over private sector sections. No wonder he has so much power with a bunch of "educated morons" giving him everything without question. Ah Democrats. Weren't you the same bunch of yokels that whined and screamed the government had too much power when the phone taps were occuring under the last admin.? Now we have the same illegal wars, higher taxes, and slowly but surely individual freedoms being stripped away and all you guys can say is "there's no God? Sounds to me you've just made your own!

    April 29, 2010 at 11:32 am | Report abuse |
  91. JT

    If, by chance, there are enough people who wish to discuss the views and works of Graham, please find a Christian forum to do so. Again, his 'works' have nothing to do with the story being discusses.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
  92. SethC

    That is why this country is in such disarray. This country has left behind the meaning of a loving God. You all who bash Graham, are angry and selfish people, who have left the roots of this country behind. This is a sad day in America. Wonder why we have so many people converting to the muslim faith, and joining the killing of innocent people. People like you who have a bone to pick, with either a parent who sent you to Sunday school or PK kids who have left behind what parents have taught to others, angry angry people. I pray for you and your hearts to be softened.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  93. CH

    Billy Graham is the exception when it comes to charletans on tv hawking the word of God for self enrichment. This man and family has lived a meager lifestyle (I have seen his home) compared to his contemporaries and has done a lot of good for those in need. He also chooses to be apolitical which has one him a lot of converts. I am a skeptical as the next guy when it comes to televangelists and believe they are the scourge of the airways in many respects for serving themselves before others. However, I believe Billy Graham is the closest thing we have today to a modern prophet of God. My 2 cents.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  94. JT

    I'm not sure what a screed by Graham has to do with an Afghan prison. It's off topic, irrelevant and an attempt to sell a product. It has no place on this board. I'd flag it, but am unable to do so.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  95. W.N. Sanabria

    I was privileged to attend a lecture a few years ago by legendary architect/philosopher Buckminster Fuller. During the Q & A session, a woman tried hard to extract from him his religious beliefs, and he resisted on the basis of it being his personal business. Finally she asked him,"well, do you pray to God" His answer is a perfect putdown to all those who claim to talk to God or in the power of prayer. "Madam, I don't believe he's looking for recommendations from me".

    April 29, 2010 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  96. steve

    What you call his inability to see god is really Saganhill's ability to question and not blindly follow your stupid religion. The concept is lame. Hi im god you should believe in me. How are you supposed to know Im god you might ask....its simple see, I wrote a book that proves im god! Wait wait wait before you go remember to feel guilty for everything you do, blindly follow the people who say they are sent by me....and dont forget to give me 10% of everything you earn....minimum. Of course the better the christian you are the more money you will give.

    for all of you who are not christian just substitute your chosen form of manipulation (i mean faith) everywhere it says christian!

    April 29, 2010 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  97. Karek40

    To Saganhill, I also talk to God, its called prayer. The evidence of his being and work is all around you. Your inability to see it derives from a refusal to accept someone has authority over you. Remember every knee will bow and every mouth confess Christ is lord. This is not just Christians who willingly do so now but everyother religion in the world including Islam.

    April 29, 2010 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  98. Daniel-2

    Was it really a "Taliban" prison or another one of those right-wing propaganda ploys to keep people hyped up over this stupid war?The only thing that will help Afghanistan is get the foreign troops the hell out of there and let the Afghans decide their own future instead of the right-wing thugs in Washington.

    April 29, 2010 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  99. Dave

    I like how the ending of this story let us know that there still is some hope in Afghanistan to make it right. Some Americans feel it & some Afghani's feel it...but it seems like this is the last beam of light in a closing window to make Afghanistan what it should be.

    April 29, 2010 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
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