April 23rd, 2010
09:14 AM ET

7 Pakistani soldiers killed; 5 beheaded

Violence raged in Pakistan's tribal region as seven soldiers died in an ambush and five people accused of spying for the U.S. and Pakistan were found beheaded, authorities said Friday.

The incidents occurred in North Waziristan, one of seven districts in the Pakistan tribal region along the Afghan border and a longtime militant stronghold.

The seven soldiers died when militants ambushed a military convoy Thursday night. Sixteen soldiers were injured in the attack, which took place in the Datta Khel area, a military official and a local government official told CNN.

Militants wielding small arms and rocket launchers surrounded the 20-vehicle convoy and opened fire. The Pakistanis called in helicopter gunships to chase the militants away, said the officials, who asked not to be named because they are not authorized to speak to the media.

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  1. Reason

    Mohammad A Dar,
    Keep yelling nonsense – Muslims have committed genocide everywhere more than anyone else – Arrmenia, India throughout the centuries in Bangladesh in 1971 and many others. Islam is a religion of murder. Sure, justice will be served!

    April 27, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Mohammad A Dar

    I got a plan, Hear me out, Grab 72 vergins and put them in a a ware house, Brodcast the new all over that dang country and and then pull the trap door as soon as those muslim f-ers walk in so the vergins escape and then bomb the crap out them----------And your mother and sisters were among them. It is very doubt full that they were virgins, because it is not your custom. They were just playing it. RIGHT.

    April 27, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Mohammad A Dar

    Pakistan is just like the rest of the middle east. A big toilet waiting to be flushed. And flush that racist religion with you. The whole middle east is a bunch of biggot A-holes terrorizing innocent people that live there and elsewhere.
    Posted by: Lawman-------------------You are no different than a criminal, who never admits to his crime and claims to be innocent and has ( a grudge towards lawmen). Committing crime and insisting being right is a tyranny. ( a crime) Treating tyrant with his medicine (terror) is a right of the victim, recognized by the humanity. India and others, the toilet filled with filth of illegality will be flushed by the LAWMEN, The truthful, The Muslim, regardless what the criminals has to say. Justice will be served.

    April 27, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Mohammad A Dar

    Mohammad A Dar, when the followers of a religious ideology misuse the ideology as a justification for abusing women, murdering "Apostates" and callnig for the death of those who don't believe as they do, there is push back.
    When a rabid dog bites, you pout down the dog.
    When a diseased limb threatens the body, you ampuitate the diseased limb.
    Posted by: MarkPA----------------–That is exactly what this war is about. to put The dogs of illegality to death. Time of illegality will be over soon. Reasoning of the reasoners (Goons, Bagwans) will parish and Truth will prevail. Criminals have to accept the truth or they will not exist.

    April 27, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  5. Mohammad A Dar

    The cricket match is over. Muslims have been on the pitch for 1000 years batting but scoring nothing. Now it is india's turn to bat therefore leave them alone and be a sportsman. Talk to india unconditionally before it is too late.The war of afganistan turned into a war between india and pakistan. Nobody is on Pakistan's side not even muslim countries. Within pakistan this war is a war of pakistan's punjab only and not even sindh baluchistan or paktunistan are interested. Pakistan will come to terms with india only by signing another surrender paper this time not by niazi but by kaini.
    Posted by: akhtar abbas-------------Use your real name, If you are a Hindu, whay do you deny it by using a Muslim name. Time of Hindu can never come. Hindu is a word of old Egyption language, meaning S L A V E. Be a free person like a Muslim and than talk about time of ruling. By the way RA, the God of Pharaoh's means path, not God, as the Hindus (Slaves) do. Keep on dreaming, this is all a slave can do. Good luck.

    April 27, 2010 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  6. Lawman

    Pakistan is just like the rest of the middle east. A big toilet waiting to be flushed. And flush that racist religion with you. The whole middle east is a bunch of biggot A-holes terrorizing innocent people that live there and elsewhere.

    April 27, 2010 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  7. Bigbob22

    I got a plan, Hear me out, Grab 72 vergins and put them in a a ware house, Brodcast the new all over that dang country and and then pull the trap door as soon as those muslim f-ers walk in so the vergins escape and then bomb the crap out them

    April 27, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  8. Mohammad A Dar

    Mohammad A Dar is a Taliban from some madrasa.
    Just look at his english in the last line of the post on April 23rd, 2010 9:36 pm ET, you will know how educated he is.

    Do not give importance to his views.

    Just ignore him.
    Posted by: Samanta----------------Can you translate the word education, lets see how educated you are? By the way what is the base word for marassa, where does the city Name Madrass comes from. eduction based on truth is the true knowledge, rest of it is just being a stupid Reasoner or a goon. happens to be called B A G W A N S. What a ignorance.

    April 27, 2010 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  9. Muhammad Ali Farooq

    To Krishna,,,, it was not given...!!! you better go back to school.

    April 27, 2010 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  10. r2d2

    Interesting to note Pakistani psyche. They name there missiles Ghori and Gazni who were afghan/Turk mass plunderers and murderers. They were the conqueror who actually plundered most of sind and Punjab. It would be fairer to name their missiles bush or Obama who are at least trying to make them civilized and lead them towards true democracy.

    April 27, 2010 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
  11. mountaineer

    God, Allah, Brahma, or whoever should not be mentioned in any of this. Religion is pure and all major forms strive for peace. Wars waged in the name of religion is a farce and show's mankind's tarnish on that which is pure. What should not be confused is Chrisitanity and the United State's protection and respect for an individual's inalienable rights. We are in this war to rid AF/PK from the threat to us, and to free AF people from the oppressive Taliban. Problem is, we are dealing with a huge gap in civilized society.

    April 27, 2010 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  12. SoldierUS69

    No, all religions are not the same. However, it is true that injustices are committed under the disquise of every religion except or one and that is... Islam. All you have to do is read the Quran and study the history of the life of Muhammed. When you do this you very quickly discover that Muhammed was a murderer and a pedophile. These are facts that can not not be refuted. The Quran literally tells muslims to "terrorise the infidels". These so-called "radical muslims" are actually the ones who are living most faithfully to their murderous religion. The world will stand no chance of being safe until Islam is completely eradicated, and that is the truth.

    April 27, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
  13. Muhammad Ali Farooq

    I am offended by the word idoit here for all muslims... what cnn is doing?
    show here some "PROFESSIONALISM"

    April 27, 2010 at 8:41 am | Report abuse |
  14. Muhammad Ali Farooq

    Why cnn is using idoit word here

    April 27, 2010 at 8:31 am | Report abuse |
  15. karek40

    I am somewhat surprised by the comments, if you read the Quran you will see that they must do exactly what they are doing. Ask a so called moderate muslim if he will still be moderate when the madhi comes on the scene, You will be surprised by the answer you get and then perhaps begin to understand there is no such thing as a moderate muslim.

    April 27, 2010 at 7:14 am | Report abuse |
  16. David

    The international community needs to seriously start reducing the amount of weapons and explosive material in the world. So much money is being spent on wars that we cannot afford to solve the problems that cause the wars such as hunger, housing shortages, inequality, lack of education, intolerance and the lack of basic respect for another human being.

    Waging war should be made too expensive so that solving our actual issues seems so much cheaper. Imagine a world where weapons have to log onto an online authentication network, running on a secure internet backbone. If a weapon system is not validated then it will not fire. All weapon actions and the GPS location can be logged and thus a weapon can be banned if found to have been involved in an illegal incident. Being anonymous decreases accountability.

    It seems like a idealistic dream, but all the best technological advances start with an idea.

    April 27, 2010 at 6:17 am | Report abuse |
  17. paki2

    to FERGIE, bashing islam and muslims.

    guess who has been fighting each other since forever till 1945? white skin europeans. how dare u attack islam and not name christainity for all those millions killed in europe. not only europe, they invaded asia, africa, and americas and exported their terrorism to these places. killed inocent and looted wealth from these places back to eurrope. yes. white man did all that. shame on u for not seeing terrorist who have the same skin color as yours.

    everybody is missing a point here. all this mess was started by ussr when they invaded afghanistan in the seventies. guess who they are, white man. the two world wars were started by the white man. the atomic bombs were droped by the white man.

    have u ever managed to read Quran. it condemns killing of innocent people. The prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon him and progeny) never raised his hand on anyone. He always preached peace. Never attacked anyone. check history. all wars were in self defence. they never had an army big enough to attack. and by the way Allah is just a name for God. Same God of Abraham and Moses. One God different names.

    If some muslims are killing innocent people that doesn't mean Islam is asking them to do it. stop blaming islam.

    April 27, 2010 at 1:02 am | Report abuse |
  18. spidy

    You what i realized on this site today! There is way too much hate in this world!

    April 26, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Muhammad Ali Farooq

    Only those comments will be added which clearly "insults" muslims and islam... one can use any language or statement as long as it is against of islam....

    For all muslims you are not allowed to say anything.... is response... specially if you try to show "us" mirror....

    April 26, 2010 at 10:16 pm | Report abuse |
  20. krishna

    to all pakistani dudes – we gave you pakistan so that you wouldn't create trouble for us in india. we are losing patience over kashmir. soon india will not have a choice but annex pakistan.

    April 26, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse |
  21. capiers

    Beheadings were a common practice even in Europe for some time. There are worse ways to be put to death.... Electrocution, Hanging, even Lethal injection can be pretty hideous if not properly done.

    April 26, 2010 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Manoj

    What a shame to see people making this a forum for race hatred.

    Why not just condemn the killings/beheading. What is cruel is cruel and can't be justified for whatever reason. Also it does not give others a platform to spit out their hatred.

    Let's be sensible citizens of the world.

    April 26, 2010 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
  23. MarkPA

    Mohammad A Dar, when the followers of a religious ideology misuse the ideology as a justification for abusing women, murdering "Apostates" and callnig for the death of those who don't believe as they do, there is push back.
    When a rabid dog bites, you pout down the dog.
    When a diseased limb threatens the body, you ampuitate the diseased limb.

    April 26, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
  24. MarkPA

    Hey... The old adage "Sleep with dogs and you'll wake with fleas" was never more apt.
    This country has turned a blind eye to terrorists and fundimentalists for so long that the cancer may very well be too far gone to extract.

    April 26, 2010 at 8:32 pm | Report abuse |
  25. akhtar abbas

    @Ahmad i like your comments in a way you have summed up the history of Kabul and Delhi. In the past whenever the Kabulies wanted to invade India (just for the heck of it) there would be a horde of horsemen summoning people from other adjoining areas to come join them in an adventure to loot and plunder India just to collect some booty so this can be called an old bad habit forming a new monstrous shape with no end insight.

    April 26, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Mohammad A Dar

    we would appreciate you indians to stay out of our internal issues. As a pashtoon living in north no matter our difference with pakistan. we would turn against you. dont go there. you guys will regret it.
    No need to take advantage of our bad situation. thats like us coming to cnn and commenting on "70 indian soldiers got slaughtered by Moist rebels" (which is true just happend a few weeks ago). but we dont because we understand that is your internal problem. so respect or be ready for a reply. and you misguided hindus should stop refraining from using the word muslims in every single comments. it sounds childish after a while.
    Posted by: Pashtoon----------------Do not worry, these Indians have to be taught a lesson by the Muslims every other Generation. They think we are as divided as they are in their inhuman filthy cast system. This fight is between brothers, may be it will end on smashed crooked head of the Indians.

    April 26, 2010 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Muhammad

    For the record..who made Taliban (Mujaheedins)? Who sponsor the war in late 70s and 80s... who help to raise religious forces there?? who used Pakistan... to defeat Russia for their own interests...?? WHO??? don’t you feel any shame...?? who keep changing friends and enemies?? why you are there and for WHAT??
    WE Pakistanis wasted our blood for you yesterday... today and will keep doing it....as long as you keep funding right and wrong for your interests.....
    Shame on you.. if there is life after death.. How could you face.... justice.... not defined by you.... shame on you....
    Tell me you are there and want to be there at any cost.... human blood as it is not your blood... tell me you are there to keep an eye on Iran,,, Russia... and China..... tell me... you want blood keep wasting.... there.... Tell me.... something new... tell me... you are not human... you are just energy cosumers.... and you want that "no matter what" tell me something new please.... I dont know why you claim your self human.... Just read the history through 70 to date.... and if you do feel any shame on yourself and your countryman what they did there... Just pray for the blood.... you wasted....

    April 26, 2010 at 6:53 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Muhammad

    AMsantha... what the hack about ngislihsh.???

    April 26, 2010 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
  29. akhtar abbas

    The cricket match is over. Muslims have been on the pitch for 1000 years batting but scoring nothing. Now it is india's turn to bat therefore leave them alone and be a sportsman. Talk to india unconditionally before it is too late.The war of afganistan turned into a war between india and pakistan. Nobody is on Pakistan's side not even muslim countries. Within pakistan this war is a war of pakistan's punjab only and not even sindh baluchistan or paktunistan are interested. Pakistan will come to terms with india only by signing another surrender paper this time not by niazi but by kaini.

    April 26, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Mohammad A Dar

    Islam has been terrorized by the environment surrounding them, illegalizing Burqas, stripping them of their religious principles, and calling them "terrorists." Terrorist is someone who kills but doesn't belong to an 'ARMY' controlled by the government. They are simply revolting against people who fail to see their religion as a strict entity through which peace is attained. Stop hating, and start appreciating.
    Posted by: Jagdip Singh---------------Who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the Islam. You Guys believe in nothing legal. but illegality by your religion. Bring your self to the task of the la. The truth and than talk about Muslims and Islam. Sure you are a Sikh, a learner, keep on learning, one day you will get there.

    April 26, 2010 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Mohammad A Dar

    To Mohammad A Dar – humiliation is not equal to murder, nor should the punishment of either be the same.

    "Beheading is a normal preferred way to martyr people in Islamic societies."
    To Shah Rukh Kahn – you do not get the benefit of using the term "martyr" in any fashion that you would like in order to support your fallacious argument. Those people were murdered and you justify it by other evil deeds of others. Think about what you are stating. There is a Holy God. He hates what is evil. He will judge justly.
    Posted by: cbow
    Flag this comment-----------Just is the truth, not a desire. To respect others right is the grantee of others right. The one who does not respect others right and forces his tyranny (criminality) through force, does not deserve any mercy. Humility is great, it is for a law full man for a mistake on the condition of repentance. Not to challenge Tyranny (Criminality) is a crime. It is like spreading of the black plague in central Asia and Europe. For not taking shower according to the Goons, their religious leaders and stay filthy. One of the for most Propagator of Humility and forgiveness Tibetan Buddha slaughtered more people in northern Sub continent than ever before or The humble forgiving hypocrite christian fundamentalist beast justifies killing of Muslims by referring to the slaughter of innocent one hundred million native inhabitants of north America, without any remorse. No answer to tyrants Criminality is to justify a crime and every one has to pay the price eventually like the plague of the past. What you mentioned about beheadings of the innocent is not the way of freedom fighters but is the way of the invading criminals to justify their crimes. Show me where these propagators of mercy and forgiveness shown their mercy , in the past or present. There is only one way to stop the beast. That is the taste of his own medicine, nothing else works on him.

    April 26, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Muhammad

    I love Pakistan...

    April 26, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
  33. NoFoldems

    Patriot Indian, Get over it! Pakistan separated from India 60 years ago. Innocent people are getting killed and all you can utter is vile? The Pakistani government is fighting this element and if they don't, it will spill over to your country. Stop spreading hatred and start supporting the good cause.

    April 26, 2010 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
  34. cbow

    To Mohammad A Dar – humiliation is not equal to murder, nor should the punishment of either be the same.

    "Beheading is a normal preferred way to martyr people in Islamic societies."
    To Shah Rukh Kahn – you do not get the benefit of using the term "martyr" in any fashion that you would like in order to support your fallacious argument. Those people were murdered and you justify it by other evil deeds of others. Think about what you are stating. There is a Holy God. He hates what is evil. He will judge justly.

    April 26, 2010 at 2:31 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Mohammad A Dar

    "Nothing, they aren't people, they are little more than animals."

    Animals don't act like this. These people are primitive savages, and there isn't enough nuclear power in the world to bomb them into the 21st century.
    Posted by: Bookgirrl ------------–Have you seen the pictures of prisnors in Abu Greeb Iraq. The behavior of self proclaimed American and Europian civilized solders and government was enough to shame the beast. Perhaps That was the height of hypocrites civility.

    April 26, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  36. karma

    what goes around comes around ,

    April 26, 2010 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Patriotic Pakistani

    Here are some facts for my Indian friend,

    1) India is occupying Kashmir for more then 60 years. Involve in Human right violations. India
    have killed 90,000+ Kashmiri in its occupation.

    2) India has 700,000 troops in Kashmir. 1 soldier for every 5 Kashmiri. In Kashmir the
    situation where you can hardly walk from, you know, twenty meters without india soldier
    with an AK-47 in your face.

    If you call above situation Freedom / Democracy then i would says its a joke...

    All above info is taken from a recent interview of internationally well known Indian journalist
    Arundhati Roy by DemocracyNow.org

    April 26, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  38. Muhammad Ali Farooq

    What goes around comes around...!!! Patroiarrrt nIdain... What you know about history and education...!!?? you just came out of shell and start blalallaaa...
    Read and use your Brain Please...

    April 26, 2010 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  39. Samanta

    Mohammad A Dar is a Taliban from some madrasa.
    Just look at his english in the last line of the post on April 23rd, 2010 9:36 pm ET, you will know how educated he is.

    Do not give importance to his views.

    Just ignore him.

    April 26, 2010 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  40. Greg

    I have bad news for all of you people who practice and live your entire lives according to the "Laws" of any of the common monotheistic religions(Jews, Christians, and Muslims); there is no "God", so you can stop killing each other now.

    April 26, 2010 at 6:22 am | Report abuse |
  41. Jester

    @ krishna...

    loving Hindus? 1992 Babri Mosque incident , and the Gujrat riots and Train bombing by your loving Hindus, I`m surprised at how you used the word Loving .. Loving is what Muslim kings of India were, they kept everybody equal for 1000 years what you thankless creatures call slavery. thank Bhagwan that they were not like these extremest Talibans else there would have been no sign of hindus.

    April 26, 2010 at 5:46 am | Report abuse |
  42. Jester

    the indians posting here need to remember that they are not living in a country of Saints. Same stuff happens to Indian Army by the hands of Kashmiri Freedom Fighters, Maoists and Naxals, its all about media spot light.

    April 26, 2010 at 5:41 am | Report abuse |
  43. Flip

    Some people just love to kill...it's sick but true.

    April 26, 2010 at 5:19 am | Report abuse |
  44. Truthi

    Well said Patriotic Indian!

    April 26, 2010 at 3:20 am | Report abuse |
  45. Hillary, MI

    Oh 12 smore oldiers killed, I'm waiting for Pakistan to come running to Washington with a begging bowl. Whay are we American taxpayers funding this sham of a war and a potentially dangerous country- Pakistan. They have created these terrorists and now are facing the consequences,why are we supporting these animal? I cannot for the world understand why we make a big ruckus when the banks are bailed out but not a word when this hazardous country keeps coming back to us and we keep giving them taxpayer money. How about that tea-baggers?

    April 26, 2010 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
  46. observer oz

    Huh – 20 comments !!! what a clever way of cutting off 'all what you don't like to hear/read ' ((:)

    April 25, 2010 at 10:57 pm | Report abuse |
  47. observer oz

    OK, so if the CNN doesn post only some comments buy not the other that are 'a little bit against the public opinion that the press portraus about the war', what good is 'free speech' and 'democracy slogan' !!! nothing but garbage-in garbage out!! By the way – the real free press is not here in the US, it is in UK – France and Europe,u guys are becoming like a totalitarian regeime press every day – what a pity..

    April 25, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  48. observer oz

    "Nothing, they aren't people, they are little more than animals."!!

    OK, what about those barbaric US army of terror who killed hundreds of innocent children, women and eldery people in the name of 'collateral damage' – I would call them the scum of earth since animals are better than them. As for the pakistani people, they deserve better that what their governments did – their governemns are so submissive to the west that they would do anything to get their approval – get real, 99% of people in this country would love nothing but to annhiliate all people in Afghanistan and Pakistan without a blink of an eye!! As for the inidan killing of thousands of innoncent Muslim over all these decades in Kashmir and in India itself – don't worry this world has tow different scales of justice. What amazes me is how people in the west has this false feeling of 'doing good' – get real, this world most barbaric killing of children #1 killer has been the western 'civilization' in the name of 'Democracy'!!!

    April 25, 2010 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Patriotic Pakistan

    Here are some facts for my Indian friend,

    1) India is occupying Kashmir for more then 60 years. Involved in Human right
    violations. India have killed 90,000+ Kashmiri in its occupation to-date.

    2) India has 700,000 troops in Kashmir. 1 soldier for every 5 Kashmiri. In Kashmir the
    situation where you can hardly walk from, you know, twenty meters without india
    soldier with an AK-47 in your face.

    If you call above situation Freedom / Democracy then i would says its a joke...

    All above info is taken from a recent interview of internationally well known Indian journalist Arundhati Roy by DemocracyNow.org.

    I would recommend every to watch that interview to know the real face of India..

    April 25, 2010 at 7:35 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Pashtoon

    we would appreciate you indians to stay out of our internal issues. As a pashtoon living in north no matter our difference with pakistan. we would turn against you. dont go there. you guys will regret it.
    No need to take advantage of our bad situation. thats like us coming to cnn and commenting on "70 indian soldiers got slaughtered by Moist rebels" (which is true just happend a few weeks ago). but we dont because we understand that is your internal problem. so respect or be ready for a reply. and you misguided hindus should stop refraining from using the word muslims in every single comments. it sounds childish after a while.

    April 25, 2010 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Mark

    Looks like this incident happend in North Waziristan, near afgan border.Even pakistani forces doesnt have any control there.Who created Taliban, pakistan right so deal and live with it.Everybody know Pakistan supports terrorism.

    April 25, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Abdal-Latif

    Muslims killing other muslims, over petty politics and ideological purity. Same old ignorance...it stems from the lousy state of Islamic education in many countries, which tends to promote literalistic, out-of-context interpretation of isolated Qur'anic verses; picking and choosing among verses and hadiths rather than looking at all of them in a balanced way; and above all, an emphasis on rote memorization over thinking. Certain principles (such as the prohibition of innovation in religion, or jihad, etc.) become elevated above all others; the others are brushed aside. It's the same with many religions: people pick whatever aspects of religion serve THEM, while ignoring everything else. American Muslims need to get involved in improving this situation. Hundreds of years ago, Muslims were the smartest people on the planet–we invented experimental science! Now we're so dumb that we just go around killing each other over petty politics. Muslims should themselves be the leaders in solving this enormous problem, which has snowballed over hundreds of years.

    April 25, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  53. ahmed

    there is no doubt what is going on in State of Pakistan is not just internal created mess. it is the trieless works of Pakistanis(ISI), Indian (RAW) , Afghans, US(CIA, BW, FBI, private contractors, Russians(mafias), Middleeasterns(sheik dumbs), Iranians(merceneries), and of course Talibans to keep nation of of Pakistan in perpetual turnoil. poor Pakistnis do not see the bigger Nation of Pakistan. as far indian being very happy to see the trumoil,let them be happy, they can be happy for some time before this mess transfers to the east. it started in Afghanistan, came to Pakistan, and it is going east slowly but surely.
    to th east. Ahmed

    April 25, 2010 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  54. hwoode

    I voted for Obama because i thought he was going to investigate the reasons George Bush..the great "decider" ...dragged America into Iraq. Nothing has been done except now the Republicans are beating up on Obama for the ills of the world. We never should have gone into Iraq..why did we go?...why was it done so quickly? why are we still there? W H Y ? !

    WHAT IS THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR BEING IN IRAQ? WHY HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
    BEEN SQUANDERED? WHAT IS THE TRUTH BEHIND THE 'WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION FIASCO?

    WHY ARE THERE MORE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS IN IRAQ THAN SOLDIERS?

    WHY WAS BLACK WATER ALLLOWED TO CONTINUE RIPPING OFF OUR GOVERMENT AFTER THE MASSACRRE OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS?

    WHY HAS OBAMA BROKEN HIS PROMISE TO FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT BUSH WIRE TAPPING OUR PHONES?

    SOME YEARS AGO A GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION OF THE KENNEDY ASSASINATION STATED THAT THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE PERSON INVOLVED IN THE KILLING.THERE HAS BEEN N O T H I N G.....Z E R O....DONE TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE THIS MURDER. WHY?

    Whe is our goverment going to start representing and serving American citizes...taxpayers....instead of private interests.? When do politicians start representing Americans instead of private business and unknown "deciders?!" E N O U G H !! ! !

    April 25, 2010 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
  55. ABCD

    It's unfortunate that people have to die for another persons agenda. Indian/US/Pak = Big trouble.

    April 25, 2010 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
  56. David

    We can't even get along on this website. God help us...

    Not militants???? What planet do you live on? Of course they are militants.

    Peace be with you...

    April 25, 2010 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  57. MD

    Response to Bangash: Are you referring to Mukti Bahini that liberated Bangladesh from the murderous and raping Pak army. Don't have to belive me – just google.

    April 25, 2010 at 8:45 am | Report abuse |
  58. Sonu

    @ Antiwar

    I came from a second generation immigrants, from Delhi seven of my cousins were slaughtered before my parents by their neighbors. With all relatives they took refuge in the Tomb of Humayun and later sent to Lahore on a refugee train, stripped off their centuries old properties and assets. You call it a generous gesture!!!! There are millions of families who suffered in the hands of majority during riots after the new nation announced its birth.

    - You are right.This hapened.But who started all these riots and genocide.Those who wanted Pakistan.When will you Pakistani history textbooks start teaching actual facts ?

    April 25, 2010 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
  59. Li Tai Fang

    Unfortunately, the US is learning the same lessons as Pakistan is.
    Al-Qaeda wouldn't have existed without US help.

    April 25, 2010 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
  60. djconklin

    >Indian espionage at work!!!!! Killing and beheading Pakistani forces.
    ==
    Try actually reading the article before posting. The 5 who were beheaded weren't Afghan soldiers. The fact that you failed to read and understand the article tells me that the claim "Indian espionage at work!" is a bald-faced lie.

    April 25, 2010 at 7:42 am | Report abuse |
  61. Jagdip Singh

    Islam has been terrorized by the environment surrounding them, illegalizing Burqas, stripping them of their religious principles, and calling them "terrorists." Terrorist is someone who kills but doesn't belong to an 'ARMY' controlled by the government. They are simply revolting against people who fail to see their religion as a strict entity through which peace is attained. Stop hating, and start appreciating.

    April 25, 2010 at 7:12 am | Report abuse |
  62. The Truth

    Whether they are Indian RAW agents dressed up as Taliban (and there have been many examples of this amongst captured would be failed bombers/'terrorists' in Pakistan) or Mossad or Blackwater agents or the odd genuinely fed up wannabe martyr from the North, they should all be hung drawn and quartered in public.

    The public is fed up and doesnt matter how sophisticated a media game you try n play, they blame the Indian RAW, Mossad and Blackwater period. In their minds these are higher evils than the selloff of the pakstani govt.

    The Pakitani ISI should stop cowering to the politicians and taking huge bribes and arrest, punish and expose all foreign agents active within its borders.

    The Blackwater base in Islamabad is a bad idea and perfect exampl of how cheap the pakistan politicians are.

    April 25, 2010 at 6:23 am | Report abuse |
  63. ahmed

    to Patriotic Indian don' t be ignorant and racist

    April 25, 2010 at 5:57 am | Report abuse |
  64. MindSpirit

    The danger is constant anywhere along those 7 Tribal Zones, including around the Khyber Pass in the surrounding area of Peshawar.
    In my opinion a huge Clean Up job will have to be done in those areas before a victory can be achieve.

    April 25, 2010 at 2:13 am | Report abuse |
  65. simplefact

    Pakistanis, let's work more closely with the U.S. & allies. Call for help when you need to. We need to work together to whip these MFs!

    April 24, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
  66. PatrioticPakistani

    Whenever there is a news about Pakistan there are Indians all over the comments like flies come to sweets. India has had problems with all of its neighbors, they fought a war with China, with Pakistan, proxy war in Sri Lanka through Tamil Tigers, have had problems with Bangladesh because of Maoist insurgency in North East India. Now there have been attacks on Indian interest in Afghanistan because of their involvement there. Does'nt that say something about Indian foreign relation? Indian tries to be a world power which she is NOT.

    April 24, 2010 at 7:19 pm | Report abuse |
  67. jeff

    I remember once I had this dog I really loved for 12 years, Until I went on vacation for a week and trusted my neighbor to take care of it. when I got home it was gone never to be seen again, It would have to be about 20 now and I still look for it to come home, I know that is foolish, but I can't help wonder what fate had in store for this dog I liked so much, I have what I call internet friends in both India and Pakistan, All seem like smart people, Are you all going to all kill each other, what fate will you make for yourself?

    April 24, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Bookgirrl

    "Nothing, they aren't people, they are little more than animals."

    Animals don't act like this. These people are primitive savages, and there isn't enough nuclear power in the world to bomb them into the 21st century.

    April 24, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  69. paki

    wow. its so sad to see there's so many narrow-minded people in our society in 2010. what happened to these soldiers is a sad thing, no one deserves to die like that. all this india/pakistan nonsense that you "educated" ppl are talking about, please grow up. 1947 was a time of riots everyone killed everyone. stop the BS and pointing fingers and work towards a peaceful world. as for kashmir. ask the ppl who live there what they want, if anythign they prolly want their own country instead of dealing with this indian/paki drama. GROW UP

    April 24, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  70. paki boy

    interesting...i see too many indian talking trash..yea..what goes around come back around..so dont whine when kashmiri ppl do something..lol....

    April 24, 2010 at 4:49 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Kamran

    My prayers go to the families of those slain. Their sons died in a war in which the Pakistanis have been killing their own people and in turn annexing a territory that had been an autonomous region since the formation of Pakistan. The cost of this is unfortunate as all loss of life is but for too long have criminals and war lords used this portion of our territory as their own private sanctuary.

    It is a Pakistani problem that needed to be addressed and is at long last is being addressed. Calling these people beasts or barbarians is unfair, the level of development is piratically nil in this region but these people know how to fight and they fight well, just because they do not fall before the might of any army shows that they have skills that need to be developed as an asset for Pakistan and not wiped out like many people seem to suggest on this forum.

    I feel that the people of this region, the ones who are dying or whose families are dying in this war are being used unfairly so that a few clerics heading terrorist outfits can gain prominence and rule over territory that would otherwise not be under their control. That is the criminal activity that the Pakistani army is fighting, that is why I and many other ordinary Pakistanis support the army in this endeavor, and that is why we accept the loss that comes with killing our own people. There is nothing to be proud of in fighting this war. It is a sad miserable situation that God may as well damn us for in the future, but at the same time, it is a necessity that god willing we will overcome as we have done on many occasions in the past! Pakistan will Prevail!

    April 24, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Fergie

    Again the peaceful religion of islam rears it's ugly head!
    Hopefully all the world will see the muslims and islamist as they truly are! War Mongers!
    I for one will back any and all governments or groups that will take them out!
    GWB missed when he did not bomb them back to the middle ages along with iraq and afghanistan!
    Again the west has seen the intolerance's of islam with the South Park issue, which should be a none issue, freedom of speech and expression! But the muslims and islamics believe they have the right to impose their beliefs on the world!
    I will be more then happy to fight any and all islamic or muslim fanatics to right them as do the men and women of the coalition forces! God Bless them all! Allah be damned he is not a true profit nor was mohammed or any other muslim!!!!!
    I am the western terrorist willing to sacrifice you the muslim and the islamics to see your virgins! Death be upon you all!!!

    April 24, 2010 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  73. john burgess

    we are turning into something worse than animals they don,t kill their babies bomb and burn them just a bunch of sick people we are, things will change the end of time on earth dec 21 2012 is coming fast

    April 24, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Winston Smith

    See folks-this aint our fight–the indians and pakistanis want to duke it out-let'em.
    Side not: Those are militant who killed the army guys.I dont need to be there to know army dont kill army.

    April 24, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Amar

    That Kashmir is disputed is recognized by UN.But that cant justify Pakistani intelligence supporting armed struggles in Kashmir.In civilized society we have to recognize State boundaries as sacred and should take civilized,legal routes to resolve interstate issues.Yes these issues may take ages resolving especially if the State perpetrating the wrong is overwhelmingly strong,but doing the right thing the right way rather than doing what you think is right at all costs should be the mantra.The lesson of history seems to be that any other way leads to even greater injustices.It seems naive too to single out one State as being sponsor of terrorism or of cross border interference in other States.If ISI did it than CIA,KGB,RAW,Mossad all have been doing so too. Al Qaeda and Taliban represent the ugly,naked face of what all these State sponsored intelligence agencies have been doing under cover.Who can deny that CIA and ISI had a role in creating Taliban?But the need for creating Taliban arose not in vacuum,but in the context of USSR's 'State terrorism' on Afghanistan. The role of Indian intelligence in Srilanka,Pakistan and Afghanistan cannot be denied. Yes what goes around comes around.But if we truly believe and fear that then we should be even handed and also analyze and if found true, speak against ,State terrorism of Israel against Palestinians and of India against Kashmiris,and of US invasion of Iraq; just as we should against Alqaeda,Taliban and other terrorist organizations the World over.We should also ask who funds and arms these terrorist organizations and if those questions hint at role of intelligence agencies of our own countries then in spite of patriotism we must speak against them too.

    April 24, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Rajiv

    This is the work of Indian agents (RAW) + Isreali agents (MOSSAD) and American agents (CIA) and Pakistan is Utopia.

    /end sarcasm.

    April 24, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  77. muffdive

    All you guys make me vomit with your racial and tribal hatred for each other!!! I couldn't keep my food down and had an unpleasant feeling for the rest of the day because of your repeated stupidity!!! It wasn't important if you were the best educated or not, you were still stupid!! Why don't you just do what you are supposed to do!! Talk like APU, buy or work in a 7-11 store and come home each day to your loving wife and kids for your lentils!!

    April 24, 2010 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Mohammad A Dar

    The civilized world is, due to mass media, witnessing the primitive nature of a culture long ignored. Let it be an introduction to man's final enemy among men, for what you are witnessing is the building to fruition of what some call Armegeddon.
    Posted by: George--------–CAN YOU EXPLAIN, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY CIVILIZED WORLD.

    April 24, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  79. Mirza J Baig

    These Taliban’s and al-qaideeda terrorists should be eliminated totally. We should be thankful to these soldiers who are giving their lives and protecting the world from these maniacs.

    I wish we could use a nuke to clear these terrorist and let the world live in peace. The world as I see is not thankful enough to the soldiers may it is from US forces or Pakistan army, because this world will not be a safe place if these crazy people got the upper hand.
    Islam does not teach the violence and the terror which they take for granted and a pretext to the
    heinous crimes they commit against humanity.

    God bless Pakistan and God Bless the USA.

    April 24, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  80. krishna

    to Antiwar – i am sorry to hear about the tragedy in your family. but who asked for it ? pakistan should never have been formed. it was a mistake. civil war was an unfortunate result of partition. this was known before the partition and indian leaders worked very hard to stop it. jinnah was adamant. he created pakistan to satisfy his own selfish personal greed. hindus and muslims have lived in peace before partition for centuries. it could have easily continued after independence.

    April 24, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  81. krishna

    for all you people suggesting that indian forces are creating these problems in pakistan – i strongly suggest that you consult a psychiatrist for delusion and hallucinations. the condition is treatable with medication. and then you will see that the problems pakistan is facing is because its people are deluded by islam. remember ziaul haq ? he started this islamization of pakistan and sowed the seeds of delusion and hallucinations in the minds of its people. don't blame india for it. we are a peace loving, educated, civilized, tolerant and a progressive nation.

    April 24, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  82. Iftikhar-ur-Rehman

    These so called Talibans are beasts and should be treated like beasts, shot at sight.

    April 24, 2010 at 4:12 am | Report abuse |
  83. Newjersey

    indian agents will be soon defeated in Pakistan, indians think by sponsoring terrorists they will keep Pakistan army busy on its own soil, wet dreams,
    Pakistan army all the way, long live Pakistan

    April 24, 2010 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
  84. Antiwar

    Wow mister Krishna, "Pakistan was carved out of India as a very generous gesture so that Muslims could live in peace." How old are you? I came from a second generation immigrants, from Delhi seven of my cousins were slaughtered before my parents by their neighbors. With all relatives they took refuge in the Tomb of Humayun and later sent to Lahore on a refugee train, stripped off their centuries old properties and assets. You call it a generous gesture!!!! There are millions of families who suffered in the hands of majority during riots after the new nation announced its birth. You probably reading some mantra from Indian school text.

    April 24, 2010 at 1:24 am | Report abuse |
  85. George

    The civilized world is, due to mass media, witnessing the primitive nature of a culture long ignored. Let it be an introduction to man's final enemy among men, for what you are witnessing is the building to fruition of what some call Armegeddon.

    April 24, 2010 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
  86. aafromusa

    Patriotic Indian wrote a very good statement "what goes around comes around." which followed by his nonsense. However, this statement signifies a universal fact that "people don't act, they react." We must start seeing all incidences, including Bombay attack, from this perspective, scrutinize our policies accordingly, and be accommodating to others point of view, all problems will be resolved on the table. Disputes start with uncompromising attitude, today’s friend become enemy tomorrow. No other place can demonstrate this more than Afghan-Pakistan region.

    April 24, 2010 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
  87. Bangash

    @Patriotic Indian

    Remember when India supported terrorists in East Pakistan and Sri Lanka ? What goes around indeed comes around.

    April 23, 2010 at 10:51 pm | Report abuse |
  88. krishna

    there is mention of indian brutality in kashmir above and hence the pakistanis sent their "protective" forces to protect their muslim brethren. pakistan was carved out of india as a very generous gesture so that muslims could live in peace. once pakistan was formed they got greedy and started demanding separate states within india where ever there was a muslim majority. it took a while for peace loving hindus in india to understand the insatiable greed of pakistanis. kashmir belongs to india even if muslims are a majority. deal with it. present day pakistan is the birth place of hinduism (the indus valley civilization started there). if i were to go to mecca and ask that it be made into a hindu or a christian or a jewish city will you give it ? we gave you the birth place of our dearest religion. so please stop complaining and try to make pakistan a better place to live.

    April 23, 2010 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
  89. Kiddo

    Indian espionage at work!!!!! Killing and beheading Pakistani forces. No Pakistani will do that even in a million years to any one. Pakistanis are being framed by the foreign spy network under the Indian Master Plan. Very effective, but not for long. It will catch up sooner or later. Bad Karma!
    This stuff will keep on unfolding. If it walks and quacks like a duck then it is a duck! One can smell a big rat here. For Pakistan, it's dejavu again. Pakistanis have a good sixth sense about their enemy.

    April 23, 2010 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Dr342

    They are vermin that need to be exterminated!!

    April 23, 2010 at 9:59 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Mohammad A Dar

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    @Shah Rukh KHan – I am from Karachi and know all too well how racist our society really is but this attack on the military convoy is not by normal peaceful ppl of pakistan. These guys are terrorist and they wudnt think twice before murdering u or me or anyone from either 4 of our provinces. How can you say there are no militants in our country. my friend you are blinded by hatred. Open your eyes. "Pakistan Army should stop terrorizing the innocent people in tribal areas." innocent people do not have rocket launchers and do not attack the armies of their own country. May Allah wipe off the taliban n company from the face of this earth
    Posted by: Faisal-------------Could you be little more clear about the subject. Your statement does not make no sense.

    April 23, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
  92. Proud Pakistani

    I am replying to the Patriotic Indian remarks, Indians should first look in their own six decades of history before calling anyone state terrorists. Indian Government sponsored "Tamil Tigers" in Sri Lanka, one of the biggest terrorist organizations in the south Asia. They have fought wars or had military conflicts with all its neighbors including, China, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal. There are more terrorist outfits in India than in any other country in the world. Their biggest show of terror on the innocent people of Kashmir is the longest and biggest example of "State Terrorism" by any other country. Pakistan is the only country that stands up to their "bullish and terrorist mindset". Well done Pakistan you have fought the terror with courage for the whole world and your forces have achieved the greatest success against Al Qaeda that even US and NATO forces could not achieve in 8 years in Afghanistan. Keep moving forward, the whole world is supporting you.

    April 23, 2010 at 8:08 pm | Report abuse |
  93. suzycreamcheese

    zak, you're kidding, right? Where have you been?

    April 23, 2010 at 7:08 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Faisal

    @Shah Rukh KHan – I am from Karachi and know all too well how racist our society really is but this attack on the military convoy is not by normal peaceful ppl of pakistan. These guys are terrorist and they wudnt think twice before murdering u or me or anyone from either 4 of our provinces. How can you say there are no militants in our country. my friend you are blinded by hatred. Open your eyes. "Pakistan Army should stop terrorizing the innocent people in tribal areas." innocent people do not have rocket launchers and do not attack the armies of their own country. May Allah wipe off the taliban n company from the face of this earth

    April 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Mohammad A Dar

    RA, the Indian intelligence service at works. Not so good job. should have used some other name, not an Indian actors name.

    April 23, 2010 at 6:55 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Mohammad A Dar

    Well, what goes around comes around. Pakistan is a "State Sponsor of Terrorism" that has created untold heart ache for India aver 60 years. Time to reap what you have been sowing for over 6 decades. I hope and pray that the Pakistani Govt, through the sufferring of its own people come to realize the destructive nature of religious based terrorism and back off it and give peace a chance.
    Posted by: Patriotic Indian----------–They were protecting the criminality of Indian forces in Kashmir. They should not be in their way. Protecting a criminal is a crime, So they paid the price. These should be Indian criminals not them.

    April 23, 2010 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
  97. David Stirling

    "what is wrong with these people?"

    Nothing, they aren't people, they are little more than animals.

    April 23, 2010 at 5:50 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Shah Rukh Kahn

    Beheading is a normal preferred way to martyr people in Islamic societies. Unfortunatley, the non-state actors in Pakistan are erroroneously being labelled as militants. There are no militants in Pakistan. The oppressed people of Pakistan – Sindhia, Balochis, Pashtuns – are clearly fed-up with the Punjabi domiated Pakistan and are seeking thier just freedom. Pakistan Army should stop terrorizing the innocent people in tribal areas. There inhuman actions will only invite more violence. Peace!

    April 23, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  99. zak

    beheaded? what is wrong with these people? You can't just go around cutting people's heads off cuz you believe they spied for you. God what is happening to people?

    April 23, 2010 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  100. Patriotic Indian

    Well, what goes around comes around. Pakistan is a "State Sponsor of Terrorism" that has created untold heart ache for India aver 60 years. Time to reap what you have been sowing for over 6 decades. I hope and pray that the Pakistani Govt, through the sufferring of its own people come to realize the destructive nature of religious based terrorism and back off it and give peace a chance.

    April 23, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |