March 25th, 2010
11:18 AM ET

U.S. bases in Afghanistan say goodbye to Whoppers, DQ

Whoppers, Dairy Queen sundaes and the latest movies will soon disappear for U.S. military personnel serving in Afghanistan, according to a blog posting by Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall discussing changes to morale, welfare and recreation facilities on U.S. bases there.  

In an effort to put more focus on fighting the Taliban, the military is cutting back on "non-essentials" in Afghanistan, Hall announced on the International Security Assistance Force Afghanistan blog this week. Hall is the command sergeant major for ISAF.

On large U.S. facilities such as the Kandahar and Bagram air bases, that includes closing restaurants such as Burger King, Dairy Queen, Orange Julius and Pizza Hut, dropping first-run movies from base theaters and cutting the amount of canned and bottled goods imported from the States, Hall writes.

“This is a warzone – not an amusement park,” he writes.

“Supplying nonessential luxuries to big bases like Bagram and Kandahar makes it harder to get essential items to combat outposts and forward operating bases, where troops who are in the fight each day need resupplied with ammunition, food and water,” Hall says in the blog posting.

Hall says eliminating the restaurants and other facilities will free up space to accommodate more than 35,000 U.S.  and allied troops who will be arriving in Afghanistan in the coming months.

But troops shouldn’t feel neglected, Hall writes, as the military plans to increase fitness centers and Internet and telephone capabilities.

And they’ll still be able to get a good cup of coffee as the Green Beans Coffee outlets at bases across the country will remain open, Hall writes.

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  1. Bob

    Why don't they ask the soldiers what they think? Oh wait i forgot this isn't the military's plan it's a bunch of fat greedy politicians who want to save money, and get more money for there bonuses.

    March 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Iraqistan Veteran

    This is a bit of a touchy one. I see the Sgt Maj's view point indeed, but what about those of us coming back in from convoys, foot-patrols, Outpost/FOBs? It is this very little bit that recharges the batteries.

    My take has always been that if a shop already fully functioning, you should not have it removed. You don't give someone something and then say "I want it back." That is a major morale-killer. The best thing to do though, is to simply NOT build more in the first place. They dish out the addiction then try to cure it with forced withdrawl.... kind of contradictory. If they never had the "strip mall" boardwalk at KAF in the first place, or as many people inside the wire, then this wouldn't be an issue.

    By the way though, WHAT fight is the CSM talking about? The one where our troops defend themselves just to be put on trial for it?

    I'm no peace-nik, but let's win already or just go home and in the meantime let 'em enjoy a whopper or pizza every now and then.......

    March 26, 2010 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dave Hafsten

    When I was in Nam, we had NCO Clubs where we got 25cent drinks and NY Steaks for $5.00. But we never had McDoanalds, TGI Fridays, or Subway. This privitization at it's best. Todays soldier is soft, and the reason we can't defeat the enemy.

    March 26, 2010 at 9:32 pm | Report abuse |
  4. KK

    Done an ILO for the Army and this is another good example of how jacked up they can be.

    If you take one luxury then take it all before you say they're wasting precious supply space and provide nothing for the troops. The stuff is shipped on chartered aircraft and have nothing to do with holding space on aircraft delivering supplies to FOBs or mobile units.

    Thanks Army for leading the way to stupidity.

    Time to spend my money on those pirated movies so we have another IED to worry about next time we roll out the gate.

    March 26, 2010 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Dan

    I am a former Marine. I didn't have any of the ammenities and I didn't care that others did. It was nice to get to where they did even once for something familiar. I have dealt with what I felt were many, many completely stupid command decisions. I have to say that this one takes the cake by far. These commanders are completely out of touch with reality. To state that this is to help people concentrate on "winning the war", "logistical issues" or "space" is asinine, to say the least. It is either a punitive measure on the troops because the commanders decisions aren't succeeding or a push from the White House....Michelle Obama that is.

    For all of you on here saying it is a great idea, either A.) you have never been in the military and if so you weren't deployed. B.) you are/were in the military and are brainwashed. C.) you are so old you were in the civil war (sarcasm). This is 2010 not 1968 people, times change, deal with it. Afghanistan and Iraq are not a jungle environment nor is it France, Germany, Belarus, etc. Simply put, it is a totally different environment with an enemy who you cannot identify or shoot at unless they are already shooting at you.

    So to all who say this is going to help "win" this war I have some bad news for you. It isn't going to happen. Russia was there for how long? 10 years! Which we are almost at. They pulled out because they were tired of wasting money on something that was obviously not going to end. So, again, people are learning nothing from history. The majority of Afghans are very primitive and will fight like huns. They have no desire to abandon their way of life for something more convenient. Don't come back with the only answer of "they are forced into that". If the majority knew of anything better they would stand up for themselves and make the changes they want themselves.

    March 26, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  6. SSG Chris

    I served at a mega base in Iraq (Balad) and saw many of these fast food restaraunts. I ate at some a few times, I mean who doesn't love a taco bell taco without cheese or lettuce? I'm not really passionate about this issue because I can see both sides.

    If I ever had to live outside the wire it would have been nice to have a treat. I was never in the sh*t for more than 12 hours straight. I was able to have TCNs do my laundry and had air conditioned quarters. I got shot at and mortered on mulltiple occasions but I made it a point to stay the hell out of the way of the guys that lived outside the wire, you could spot them from thier shredded uniforms and overall spent appearance. I'm all for giving them what they want.

    On the other hand it pissed me off royaly to have my troops sustain injuries on all night convoys to some remote FOB only to see the FOBBITS at those FOBs walking around with bags full of pringles, dvds, and other BS. I even told my friends and family to stop sending me things because the people that delivered those items (INCLUDING USO CARE PACKAGES) had to risk thier lives in the process.

    I think the bottom line here is the generals and politicians are just doing what they have always done since the advent of spoken language: Screwing the poor.

    March 26, 2010 at 7:03 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Re-Deploying

    I think this is great. I am preparing to return for another tour in Afghanistan and was quite excited to see this news. I think the soft-living type "amenities" such as fast food, which is actually a fairly horrendous offense against health and a major cause for American obesity and chronic health problems, only hurts us downrange. We still have MWR, fitness facilities, pretty good dining facilities, and USO.

    Ultimately, however, our focus needs to be the mission, and not greasing up on trans fats while trying to maintain good health and battle readiness. Furthermore, as the SSG mentioned before, the bases, and vast majority of personnel working on them, exist to service the combat troops out on the FOBs and patrols. If these institutions of gluttony are undermining our ability to supply these warriors and heroes with everything they need then there shouldn't even be a debate.

    March 26, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
  8. PT

    As long as the troops aren't going hungry, they're probably better off without the junk food. Better to spend the money, transport and space on needed supplies and medicines than on carnivals. War IS hell, let's not pretend otherwise.

    March 26, 2010 at 6:11 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Scooter

    This is unbelievable. Why are you arguing over fake food? Instead of demanding REAL food to be shelved in our super markets, you people want to consume JUNK. Congratulations to the media in the U.S. for successfully manipulating our minds!

    March 26, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  10. rhonda trenkamp

    I have a son in Afghanistan and my Father retired from the Army. Here is what I know when my Dad was sent Germany they sent them out in the field with a army blanket style sleeping bag in the dead of winter to freeze all night and my son's unit had winter gear coming over on a separate shipment that didnt make it until spring and they all about froze to death they had to go to the PX on the FOB and buy outer wear. This is all BS and I think its time that the regular GI on the front lines get treated with some respect. I mean really people if it wasnt for them their wouldnt be CNN Blog site.Some fat Politician who wants to give the extra money they will be saving to bailout another Bank.
    Lets not forget why they are over. The attack on 9-11 was just a start and our CIA is too stupid to catch a suicide bomber on Christmas day or a Army Psychologist that kills our soldiers before they even get to the war zone.

    March 26, 2010 at 5:49 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Charlie

    Come on < This is bullst;;, I went to Bagdad with the colation for 18 months and any thing like close to home is a moral bust for the young men and womer there. Iretired out of the Navy and served in country VietNam 2 tours. True it may not be needed but the excuse is crap some ass ho;; did get a kick back. Packing 80pounds in 100 degree heat they need a weight room to rest in.BS BS BS

    March 26, 2010 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Angie

    Our men and women brave enough to serve and defend need something to unwind and connect with home. There's nothing wrong with the occasional Whopper/Big Mac and definitely they deserve to see first run movies. (Though I think the Movie companies should not profit 1 dime and be donating the films for view)

    March 26, 2010 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  13. armymedic

    Who cares? I am in the army and I think it is great that they are getting rid of them. I don't really buy the "free up space" reason though, given how large these bases are. All you see at these places are usually overweight soldiers killing themselves with cholestrol, and then they can not figure out why they are failing their PT test. The chow hall is usually very decent at these places anyway. Save your money and eat for free at these. The movie thing kind of sucks though. It would be nice to watch a movie every now and again when you are off patrol. Then again, at big bases like these, not many of these guys patrol anyway. Mad props to the grunts at the Patrol Bases.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:47 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Numbskull

    Oh well, BK. No more corporate colonialism via military base. Double Whopper is pretty good.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  15. John

    I have done three tours in the middle east. 2 in Iraq 1 in Helmand Province Afghanistan and soon enough another 9 months at the same place. My unit is responsible for the construction of Forward Operating Bases. Most of the places we go to usually does not have those luxuries that will soon be shut down. We usually live in the worse conditions at first until the infastructure is built. Although I get jealous of the troops who stay at the luxurious bases. it is still nice to have them, just because there are times when make trips to those places. Its nice to have a meal that reminds me of home even if it is BK. It gives me something to look forward to.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  16. john

    In the long run, it will hurt moral, having served overseas many years ago, I know what it's like to wish for simple pleasures from home

    March 26, 2010 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
  17. USMC Vet

    It is what it is, so what whopers and sundaes are gone – no one is going to go "OH MY GOD I CANT STAND NOT HAVING A WHOPPER!" and kill their self.

    In the same respect, when the bullets are flying over their heads, I am sure their training kicks in and the last thing on their mind is a whopper with lettuce tomatoes, extra pickles.

    Right,wrong , or indifferent – the decision is not going to change the outcome of this war.

    The Command Sgt Major used some horrible adjectives to describe BK and DQ .. I mean everytime I think of a luxurious dinner, I think a #4 at BK –

    I haven't seen any Marines complaining about this decision – They just get the job done.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
  18. R.Meade

    Logistically speaking, I am sure we can use the 35,000 extra troops to help supply front lines. Please keep the sanity of our troops with these simply 1/10 luxuries of food and movies. Maybe we can focus on the electrical issues in the showers first with all the new troops?

    I don’t blame McCrystal as he is doing an incredible job with the challenging time frame and world opinions pressing him. This decision most likely came from lower ranking officers.

    In conclusion, please keep our soldiers sane. My brother and friends would greatly appreciate it.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Sapper508

    Hey STEVEG......Just because you spent 6 years in the National Guard gives you no right to chirp in!!!!PRIVATE, and whoever calls for friendly fire is an obvious idiot!!!! The truth of the matter is there is plenty of room for the "Essential" supplies needed, this is a matter of politics. Anyone, and I mean anyone who has been deployed recently from Kuwait, to Iraq or Afgan can tell you this simple "Luxuries": are intial to morale. Try spending a month at a FOB eating nothing but MRE's and warm water the get back to the rear to be greated by a weightroom and a coffee shop! This is an outrage and people need to start making calls to there local congressman and stop this now before it gets any further.....EVERYONE reading this post knows someone either directly or in-directly that has been deployed and can ask first hand if these "Luxuries" are essential or not!

    March 26, 2010 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Vinnie D Kator

    Didn't take long for the crazies to come out and start blaming Obama.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Joe Smuckatelly

    If anyone has ever stayed in Kandahar on a temporary basis they treat you like dirt there. They put you in a 300 man circus tent with bunk beds lined each side, and what is right next to the tent, of course the water treatment plant that is overflowing it's banks and has feces flowing right next to the tent. Yes folks that is the way it is in Afghanistan, Why bother allowing people to eat something other than the curry they serve every single day at the mess hall at ISAF HQ. Just because M4 doesn't eat or need anything otherPT everyday, doesn't no one else does. M4 and Hall stay nioe and cozy at ISAF all day thinking of ways to screw their opwn troops over while the rest of the folks are fighting the war, Retirement and obsurity is where you belong MIke Hall, go home you're helping the enemy win.

    For you other haters out there, Afghanistan has always had the worst of MWR, especially when compared to Iraq. Do you actually think that kRATS and MRE's are a great staple 24/7. I would like to a see a story on one rear det for any unit or americvan eat nothing but this for an entire year. There's your challenge haters.

    March 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Dan Shea

    I applaud this decision. For those who don't know, majority of troops on these bases don't do a whole lot, in terms of fighting. Not all, but majority don't do much. I got back from my second tour in Iraq in October of last year; where I was stationed on a tiny FOB (forward operating base) by Amarah 10 miles off the Iran border. We couldn't get any supplies that we needed from the big bases such as these that had Burger King, and nice restaurants. I would go to these bases and try to find out what the hold up was on our supplies and you couldn't hardly find anybody that was helpful. Most soldiers on these bases didn't even act there was a war still going on. They would sit there over there whoppers and talk about how bad they had it, while the battalion of CAV I was with was eating two MRE's a day, and if we were lucky T-Rats (over sized MRE's) for dinner. Not that enjoyable experience. Not too mention the extra amount of Fat guts walking around too.
    These bases are not that tough to live on, and if there are going to be these luxeries, then they should be at the war fighters finger tips located on the tiny FOB's first, not large airbases where all the celebrities go to do concerts. Biggest celebrity we got was some guy with long curly hair and a ukelele, singing along with his incestual sister.
    If these soldiers at these large bases want to talk about how bad it sucks, lets talk about the days of Faluja, and Ramadi where I was my first tour and other crap areas where guys where actually fighting and dying.
    They don't need those things, and there is enough money being pissed away by civilian contractors operating these luxuries, everyone will be better off.

    Dan Shea (SSG, Combat Medic)

    March 26, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  23. IronFixXxeR

    The comfort food makes perfect sense but it is a shame fast food is that comfort food.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Frank

    I agree with the sargeant to a certain degree. Since I'm not there to see with my very own eyes I can't be 100% certain that it's wrong for our troops. But what I can say is that when we see these big trucks with their emblems of Burge Queen and so on, well that would make me feel mor at home right. I think it's for phycological than anything else that they would use this kind of advertisment to make our troops feel more at home than anything else. So take away all the advertisements but don't take away the hamburgers and the fries!, Please let's have a bit of common sense.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Denise

    I think this is a crime to take away these things away from our military! Those that are opposed to having these minor luxuries such as a movie or a hamburger for these men and women who are risking thier lives to better this planet be sure to stop eating that ice cream or stop going to the movies or stop going to fast food resturants for at least 6 months....seems pretty rediculous doesn't it, but that is what you are asking of these people....are you that selfish?????

    And just how much room does our military bases need that they just can't take? I see it Afghanistan has plenty of room to expand without having to take away anything from these fine young, brave men and women who are only trying to keep peace in this world.


    March 26, 2010 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
  26. SenojM

    I would argue that the Sgt. Maj. bottom-lined it perfectly. It's a warzone, not an amusement park. Period.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Bev

    We have to take away now from our soldiers to pay for health care???? They are living in a remote, backwards country and having a burger or ice cream should not be a big deal. What the hell is wrong with our government????

    March 26, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  28. TomColt

    As a vet I was concerned that these things made troops "soft", but after hearing my son tell me he avoided his mess hall because it was where all the National Guard officers hung out all day and night, I know that the local "sandburger palace" serves other purposes, too.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Jim

    Michelle Obama is behind this................

    March 26, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
  30. yg

    Man thats some bs to the max like wtf man why would they want to take away the food thats almost similiar to the way your wife made it or your mom are just any family on the outside. they work hard they are doing things that we might are have already said we wouldnt do. So why not keep it It's just the government trying hold back the good stuff from the people who make the world go round and the people who protect us. From those crazy people running around blowing people up like old buildings. It's just not right

    March 26, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
  31. a us marine

    to any veteran or military parent out there,dont take this out of context,the men on the fob's get very few chances to get to the bigger base's where they have these ammenities,so i think it was a good idea to remove them,the troops on the fob's need their supplies quick and frequently,i am a combat veteran,i have been there,all servicemen and women are equally important,but if we cant get supplies to the fob's because burger king and dq shipments are holding them up,then a lot of troops will end up being killed.after all we are there to fight a war.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Deb

    I think this is riduculous. It's not like we can send them things from Pizza Hut, DQ or Burger King. It would also be different if they got their mail from home on time where they could be getting some good things from home. Are they not fighting for yours and my safety? Please be sure whoever made this decision be sure you eat the same food and drink over and over again from the base food hall.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:14 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Bobby

    After 32 years with the military and three tours to the Middle East. I have seen both sides of this issue. After you spend days to months out in the field and finally get to return to a support base that has these luxuries it is nice. Also I have seen troops who have come back from rotations and have put weight on because this is all they ate. Yes this is a war and we should be giving our troops top supplies and support to get the job done. But first politics have to let the military do their job. Get it done and come home.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Torch Rivera

    Removing the little amenities from the troops accepts the notion that it distracts the troops from the mission.

    I remember when I was in Desert Shield/Storm, it was these small amenities that provided the break and reminder of what America was all about, the good things in life.

    But just like anything else, our troops will "grin and bear it." As good troops that we are.

    Take care, and take care of the troops.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Tom

    I’m a retired Army 82nd Jumpmaster and in my opinion, if it is worth going to war over, then we throw everything we have at it and stay until it is finished. Send a massive force and they get to come home when it’s over. WWI & WWII were shorter wars! Why? We threw everything into it and got it done. These days, politicians debate on the validity of troop requests and ration war budgets to get new sidewalks in Idaho. The entitlement generation needs a wakeup call. I think getting rid of the “fluff” is a great idea.

    March 26, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Travis Piper

    In my opinion, this is not fair to our troops. Our troops sacrifice everything for their country, including their lives. They deserve to be treated with respect. These little pleasures should not be taken away from them. It doesn't hurt anything or anyone to provide them with these little luxuries. They deserve a lot more than we can ever repay them. It isn't fair to take it away from them.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  37. What next

    Having just returned from Kandahar I can tell you it's not the "play ground" everyone thinks it is. The base served sub-standard food of which I ended up getting a stomach parasite from and resorted to eating VERY little from the base at all. No, I didn't hand out at the BK or Pizza Hut but it was nice to have an option. For all of you that have not been you have not voice to say if it's good or bad in Kandahar...basically please color! If you have you will understand those basic silly luxuries are nice to see. If some people are sitting on the boardwalk for hours (and there are some that do), get a job or bring in troops that are needed. Don't just fill the numbers bring in people to train the Afghan people and then perhaps we can leave. Gen McCrystal, we cannot all be a one meal a day warrior! Try bunking with 8 to 10 ladies in the space you have by yourself. Sure thing Rank has its priledges, but lets fight the good fight and all give up the same sacrifices. Oh yeah, don't you big dogs get to go home and "talk" in Washington when needed or some other cushy country? Well hey we are stuck there for 6 months to a leaving! Yep it's a war zone and we know it daily with the rounds coming in...lead by example and perhaps people will respect these decisions. Oh by the way, maybe you should consider getting rid of some of those high paid contractors that have large living spaces as well. Good point earlier about back in WWI and WWII, Vietnam, these soldiers drank, smoked and had women provided to them for morale, what the the men and women get for morale now, uh a gym! Let me know when I had time for that working 16 17 hours a day. I could go on for days.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Josh

    I would gladly sacrifice a whopper or piece of pizza for any one of these brave men and women fighting in a very dangerous place. Its the very least we can do for them. This is really sad.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Joe

    Are we really stretched that thin that we can't supply our FOB and allow for some luxuries in R&R areas? And what about he lame excuse of no space? You're a military occupying force (even if you don't want to admit it). Just take what you need.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Matthew

    Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall doesn’t understand the first thing about morale! Has he been to the chow hall in Kandahar and Bagram? I have. You can only eat so much of the same food week in week out for so long, or be in the field eating MRE’s. It was nice to go down and get a pizza, or a burger and think about being at home and not a warzone. You had a sense of normalcy. Why doesn’t he take out the PX/BX? He wants to add more fitness centers and Internet and telephone capabilities? That is complete B.S.! At least soldiers would still be able to get a “good cup of coffee at the Green Beans Coffee outlets at bases across the country, which he says will remain open. I don’t want coffee! I want a pizza from Pizza Hut, a BK burger, and a sundae from DQ! After that, I would like to see a new movie at the base theater! Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall, look in the mirror before you go to bed in your nice single bedroom living area and ask yourself is this is really a good idea while the rest of us keep up the fight in the field and sleep in tents with 50-75 other people, or a room of 8, or in a wooden shack. You want to really know what we think the answer is...its B.S. and NO! Bring back our Whoppers, Dairy Queen sundaes, Pizza Hut and the latest movies! Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall how about supporting the troops and retire!!

    March 26, 2010 at 2:37 pm | Report abuse |
  41. stephanie

    i think that if it allows us to get more supplies that are needs not wants to the troops who need them the most and if there running outta food and water you kow those guys arent getting DQ or burger king they just want food and water so im for it going , BUT i also know the other end my boyfriend was stationed in Irac 2 times and he said that the one awsome thiing was the food where he was he said they always ate good and that did help the morale and they were never hungry and never had bad food. He said the cooks and food that they had was the best, so i would change my answer to half go maybe? keep the movies and other luxaries but not all. that could be a good compromise ...maybe till someone bitches their faavorite ice cream shop is gone and ruins it for everyone.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  42. melissa lynn

    Wow, thats really sad. Soldiers are over there fighting thier hearts out and mabey as silly as it seems, but that whopper is the only thing they have to look forward to. No family no friends, but a f%^$^ing whopper. I deploy next year , and i was hopping for a bit of american culture. fml right.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |

    I loathed the fact that POGs get to eat this type of food when all of us out in the middle of no where dont get the chance to! GEN McCrystal and CSM Hall said this from the begining. Soldiers and Marines at COPs all over the country in Afghanistan cant get these luxuries so why should everyone else that works a 9-5 job in combat get them... Our days on COPs are not a 9-5 or a 12 hr shift its 365 24hr 7 days a week. Im glad someone finally made that choice to get rid of the hinderance to these FAT bodies that work on HUGE FOBS!!!!

    March 26, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Michael Angel

    Im glad that GEN McCrystal and CSM Hall got rid of BK, DQ and pizza hut! I am a vet of Iraq and Afghanistan and loathed all the fat bodies that got to eat that stuff on a daily basis. During all my deployments over there have been to remote areas where luxury was second to fighting the fight. So I am not concerned with what people think about them being closed. I will be back over in Afghan this summer and hopfully I do not see FAT service men and service ladies that could not pass the tape or physical fitness test being that they dont patrol areas that get shot at or mortared

    March 26, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Xbawks

    Seriously, fast food? Im glad that this being taken care of. Dont need overweight troops.... and its taking up valuable space for supplies. What we need is MOAR XBOXES AND XBOX LIVE!

    March 26, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Wastrel

    This is a very bad mistake, not only for the troops, but because one of our missions in Afghanistan is (or should be) to export our culture to them so that they can get a clue about what it is to live in the 21st Century and join the world community. I'm not saying that Burger King and Orange Julius are the pinnacle of Western Civilization, but they are cultural landmaeks that the Afghanis can understand.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  47. DD

    What are we talking about here again?1%$#$%@$%#&*^&$#

    March 26, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  48. charles jakway

    I am a 20 year navy veteran (84-04) I have only been involved in 1 primary conflict which was 9/11 when the Carl Vinson CVN-70 out of Bremerton Washington at the time bombed Afganistan on October 7, 2001 but the rest of my experience was support efforts. I have been away from my family for months at a time so i know how these troops feel, taking away these comforts are a bad idea. Sure they are in a war zone and not an amusement park but if there is no release from the daily grind the stress will build up and thats when things go wrong and people stop caring about their job which becomes more dangerous. Yes ammo and armor essential crappy MRE"S and water are important but these simple pleasures are not a distraction and these troops are in the fight of there lives everyday and if they should die at least they would have had a little pleasure before hand. And i am sure that they higher ups still get their whoppers and ice cream and movies on demand and anyone who thinks otherwise is blind to the fact because we old vets have seen it to many times. I pray that our troops stay safe and make it home to their friends and families, my thoughts and bet wishes are with them always.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Saras

    Having a dairy queen and BK has nothing to do with them running out of supplies in the FOBS!!! I was in Bagram for a year, and there were a lot of times that BK didnt have stuff as well as Dairy Queen. Movies, DQ, BK, and other things were things that we looked forward to on our few and much needed days off. We also looked forward to the food at the DFAC most of the items were not from the states except root beer and dr pepper and a few other canned things...I should know i worked there....why take that stuff away????????? its not like you went to worked and dreamed going to eat or drinking didnt distract anyone, so why take it?????

    March 26, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  50. nick

    i couldnt even get past the first few comment before i got upset. they are right, a dvd does take up less space than a bag of coffe and maybe this is a goofie cammaond dissision. or maybe the freedom that these mean and women fight for is for nothing. i am an active duty infantry sergant in the United States Marine Corps. personnaly i am most times ashamed to call myself and american. most people in this country have forgotten what it is to be an american. "lets all get together and fight terrorism and all the other isms cause they flew a plane into our towers". yet years later the public has forgotten that. "bring our troops home". if you want your troops home then be prepared to take arms and do what needs to be done. people complain about sending less BK and DQ and DVD's and all these pidally luxurys. ok well how about we send less bullets and dont make space for body armor, lets not train the dogs because we dont want them to bite a solier. send the troops gatorade because thats more important than fuel to run the water purifiers. the american public needs a swift kick in the you know what so you can wake up and see things on a larger scale than whats on your tv or pc. instead of spending time talking all this jive how about taking some action. america was once a great nation and now our founding fathers would never recognize whats happend. life is good until you have to work i guess.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Gregory M.

    Sorry Roger Hopkins,

    The Black Beret was stolen from the Armored Cav before it was stolen from the Rangers. In many Armies, Black denotes Armor, Green Infantry, and Maroon or red is Airborne. I liked the idea of a warm head covering in winter with no bill in an Armored vehicle and think the Cav guys were rightfully upset when they stole them to give you the Rangers. You got your tan beret now tit's time to stop with the woe is us thing.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Concerned

    I was in the military and I still have family in the military. While I understand that it is a huge drain on government funds, I still think that taking the little piece of home away from the men and women serving this country is a tragedy. Just because in past conflicts and war zones, there wasn't a BK or DQ or OJ...doesn't mean that it would hurt to have it now if it is possible. It just seems like a shame for those of us who are here in the States taking for granted the leisure and freedom that we hold so dear, all while taking away the only treat that those protecting that freedom really have.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Alaska Guardian

    I was deployed overseas this past year, and noticed all the horrible food options available. For example, Burger King, Pizza Hut. I understand people enjoying comfort food but when it comes down to actually accomplishing the mission, ultimately comfort comes second. Should be spending more time in the million dollar gym to not only feel better but to be able to accomplish whats expected of you durring war!

    March 26, 2010 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Harrison

    Bagram is expanding its footprint by hundreds of acres, while concessions take up a miniscule area. This is not about terrain or the ability to house additional troops and equipment. If space was an issue then where would they find the room to put in the new rec centers and gyms? These have a much larger floor area than the concessions.

    While I have no knowledge of Bagram's current logistical capacity, I do know the base where I was in '08 had no problems supplying FOBs with what came in by air. The logistical problem there was getting fuel to the base by truck. The same number of troops and civilians need to be fed regardless of whether they eat at a DFAC (Dining FACility) or a concessionaire so the same volume of food will still be delivered. This is not about logistics.

    From what i hear, this really boils down to a commander who eats one meal a day and thinks everyone else should be just like him.

    As I was on base all the time I usually ate in the DFACs but it was a big deal for the troops coming in on convoys. The Styker crews really liked Taco Bell, which seemed odd since they spend so much time together in an enclosed space.

    For some of the guys I know who're on their fourth tour, a little bit of home is a nice break from the usual. Most Army guys would tell me "Bagram is a @#$%hole". Well, now its a @#$%hole without the good parts. Let's hope those people who think this is a good idea step up, find some APO addresses and send care packages like I've been doing since I got back.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Hunter

    Those of you upset about the taking away or loss of DQ and Burger King need to realize they are not at home, they are in a combat zone. They chose to join, so to those of you who said they didn't ask to be there have no idea. In WWII the men who fought the hardest starved and lived off of the land. Most of the armed forces today have no clue what it is to be a soldier. There is no need for pampering, that can be done when they get the job done and get home. If you want fast food, stay home. They have 1 job to do over there and they don't need to be distracted by the thought of whether to order a #2 or #7 when they get done with their patrol. The focus needs to be on identifying and eliminating the enemy to keep not just us in the US safe, but innocent people everywhere safe.

    March 26, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
  56. jeffers

    Yeah, I thought they need to have a taco bell. I've worked that 12 on and 12 off. You have time to do three things. Work, sleep, eat, and that's about it. I would be really missing that burger,sodas and ice cream.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Dustin

    I don't really see the big deal behind this. I've done a few tours in the Middle East back when we didn't have these sort of luxuries. The last tour I did (it wasn't at a FOB), we had BK, Pizza Hut, Subway, etc., but I didn't know many airmen that ate from these places, considering the services facilities we had were just as good, and a lot healthier (I still miss the sandwich bar). Luxuries are the exception rather than the rule, and I count myself fortunate that we had them, but I didn't deploy to eat BK; I deployed to do my job. And I would trade all of those luxuries to know that all of our services' necessities are met (adequate food, water, ammunition, equipment, etc.), especially down-range for the grunts in the FOBs. Eating BK while Marines are eating MREs (or eating nothing at all) is slap in the face to those guys.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Thomas

    So, DQ is a morale boost? BK? Really?...maybe that's why we've been so successful in this war.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Tanya

    Hey... give them back their burgers. Don't take their food....GEE Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall Sergeant....US military personnel are human you know – how would you like someone to take your food.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Carter, Army Wife

    At first, when I read the article I immediately said sure take them away!! But I began to think about my husband as well as other soldiers and the many stress factors they face while down range, they need those things to keep their moral up. After all, you come from a long day of fighting and by the time you come bk to you camp, a little something that remines you of home would be nice. someone said they shouldn't have these things because they need to focus on fighting. Well, i don't think they have a choice but to focus. It's there life their protecting along with their brothers!!!!!!

    March 26, 2010 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
  61. chris

    We need more fat body soldiers and Marines that do not work in combined arms who never leave the wire. We need more fast food and more non essential third country nationals . Airmen and Sailors are already the plumper servicemen due to their technical jobs and non emphasize on physical fitness. Keep Marines and Soldiers the warfighters they should be. Keeping your grunts angry and disgruntled makes them better warriors. Its time we become the bad asseses that the ww2 guys were, lets keep our military strong. If you feel bad about the expeditionary forces send care packages.


    March 26, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Report abuse |
  62. A Brit

    Thankfully, McC austerity measures are only affecting the AFFES supplied concessions and not the whole NATO continguent. The PX will survive and so will those facilities provided by the other nations.

    MWR is so very important to all the troops – at the front and those in combat support. It is normalising for all the trrops

    March 26, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Red One

    So the Marines say they can do without? Good for them, but I'm pretty sure the Army's 15 month combat tours are a little more stressful than a six month diversion. Marines aren't in the country long enough to forget how fast food tastes...

    March 26, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Azmat Jamalzai

    If we would not have them from begining it would be okay, but removing is hurting, because it shows ,you take away the only luxury a slodier has.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Kay Golwitzer

    So, what Sgt. Maj. Michael T. Hall is saying is that our men and women aren't fighting the Taliban hard enough? Come on! What my take on this is let's cut spending for the people who are defending this Country, and trying to help others get back on their feet outside of our homeland. How low can we get? Is there no end to the deceit that is being handed out by people who unfortunately are in authority? Our men and women deserve the best we can give them in the little time they have to enjoy themselves, and take their minds off of the challenges they face each and every minute they are deployed.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:16 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Knucklehead Crusher.

    Burger King and DQ.... Just like the Marines on Tarawa in 44'.

    Suck it up panty waists. The Tali's have been kickin' your ass.

    Carry on.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  67. nathan

    All I have to say is;.."Is this hope and change you can believe in?" This royally sucks. Service members in harms way deserve to have these. To quote another writer here "He is taking this stuff away to free up space so that they can get more "essential" items to "combat outposts and forward operating bases, where troops who are in the fight each day need resupplied with ammunition, food and water," That is an idiotic and absurd statement. If it's true then what it means is that up to this time we haven't been able to supply the troops adequately. If we have billions for welfare here then we certainly have billions to take car of service members in theater. This is just another Barama dump on the troops.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Mike

    Most of you have no clue what you're talking about. Yeah, war is hell. However, unlike Vietnam, we can't sit out in the jungle smoking pot... unlike WWII we can't rack out at night with a bottle of whiskey... we don't have women delivered to us like they did in WWII. We work 12 hours a day (at least), 7 days a week, for months at a time. We have mortars lobbed at us. People try to kill us. We are constantly breathing in burned garbage and human waste. We are physically exhausted. The idea that we need to be reminded that we are in a warzone is a joke. If you think we don't know, you should try coming over for a year. Why don't the "vets" from the 80s and 90s tell us how difficult all the 10 year wars they made five deployments to were? Okay, maybe the Navy guys made deployments like that, they had to go to Spain and England and made port calls 6 times a deployment to friendly ports full of bars and clubs. I mean, they're being so vocal here. Oh, that's right, they didn't have to make rotations like that. And to the civilians who have the guts to tell us we need to be more focused, shut up. Worry about your jobs. We're handling ours.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Joe

    Yeap...just make an incredible difficult situation, more unbearable. Let's take some comforts away and punish them for fighting for freedom. Go a step further, take their weapons and give them water ballons. Oh I am sorry, that may be considered water boarding.
    This is all a tactic to save money because of the current spending spree of this administration.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  70. Norm

    If the tour was 3-6 months then maybe cut out the so called luxuries, not the movies, but when you are at where you'll be for 12-18 months give the soldiers a break and maybe restrict the highers from going there, nope, that ain't going to work, they would just send a Pvt. or who ever is available. That's it, the reason they want to get rid of fast food is health reasons, well don't go there everyday! I'm sure the mess can come up with some pork chop hockey puck and non-sweetened grape or orange kool-aid just for ya.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  71. OliverV

    I always wonder what General Patton would say, I know that things like this are good for morale. Patton would probably say "Eat your belts and slap the next soldier who complained" No offense to the people who serve.

    What those people need is to push and push hard for an offensive to defeat these people in one decisive battle. and then come home.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
  72. john

    They don't deserve any nice things. They're all a bunch of murderers, supporting the corrupt american empire. They'll get what they deserve and it isn't a whopper.

    March 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  73. John Smith

    That is one of the best decisions made lately over there. I just got back from serving there- in a remote outpost....not in one of the big bases that has all the BKs, DQs, etc. To travel to a big base and see how many troops are on the big bases, working 9 to 5, then hanging out at DQ, or going to movies, or entering X box copetitions made me sick. Knowing that only a small percentage of the forces over there are actually out taking the fight to the Taliban every day 24/7, while the majority are enjoying life like they are back home was a disgrace. God Bless CSM Hall and other leaders over there with a warrior mentality. For those who are upset with losing BK and DQ- get out of the wire once in a while and see what war really is. Morale/Welfare/Recreation is more about success on the battlefield and winning the war, rather than sitting back in the rear getting fat off of fast food.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  74. ReconScout

    OK... it amazes me that the decisions that are made to "focus more on fighting" or Burger king and DQ prevent supplies from getting to the fighting troops" are even contemplated! The person making these wacky decisions is either...1. sitting in a comfy office somewhere in a US city currently eating some kind of fast food.... 2. A general officer who goes to the combat zone for a few days to get the hazzard pay... and then returns to the US for some fast food... or perhaps 3. Some idiot who is on a new health food kick sitting in a HQ because he just got his PeePee whacked for being overwieght and figures all the soldiers should suffer! You decide... I was rarely priviliged with having fastfood because I was always forward in the fight... And I often "bad mouthed" the REMF's (you know who you are) who could get it everyday... BUT... I always relished in the fact that when I did get to go back for R&R (Re-arm & Refit) I could get a Double Whopper W/Cheese!!!! We have some Wacky leadership...... Oh and BK, DQ, or PizzaHut never prevented me from getting my daily ration of MRE's...

    March 26, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  75. ED

    It does not help morale to have fas food... If that is all you need to be happy then you need a serious change in lifestyle. And if you think that the troops over there absolutely need a burger, go buy one and wait in the airport when the next transport arrives and hand them one... That will be appreciated. Our supply and logistical system can only handle so much, yes the limit is massive, but there is a limit. Dont waste space on food that provides substandard nutrition and costs more... Bring more ammo and water

    March 26, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Martinho Lutherino

    Yes, not an amusement park. But no one needs more amusement, a short escape, no matter how small, from their daily "hell-hole" known as Afghanistan. I demand my tax money to provide such a small amusement to our soldiers.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Ginny D.

    Its wonderful to see "important" decisions are being made regarding our troops. My husband was stationed in Afghanistan for 12 months and was also working 12 hours on, 12 hours off, seven days a week. Though his FOB was not stocked like Bagram or Kandahar, there were still some "luxuries" he looked forward to when coming off his shift. Yes, our troops need to focus on the mission at hand, but is it necessary to take away things that remind them of home? Opening up more areas for communication back home is important. However, is it likely that our troops will have time or be allowed to sit down and surf the web, if they can't even go to Dairy Queen for five minutes? They are in a war zone, I don't think they will forget where they are anytime soon.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  78. TSgt MSH 2T271

    I returned from Afghanistan in November. The supplies for Burger King, et al, all came in on commercially contracted aircraft, and were downloaded by contracted personnel.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  79. thatguyhal

    That sound like a decision made by a guy that has his own plane to haul his sorry butt in and out of country, and drives around in his bullet proof air-conditioned suburban with people to wait on him hand and foot. While watching soldiers wearing bright yellow PT belt on uniforms designed to lower their visibility to the enemy, salute him as he drives by. I’ve been in Iraq for over 38 months and I enjoy the little things that help from feeling home sick. It’s a little hard to forget where you are and lose focuses when you have mortars and gun fire complimented with non stop jets taking off with full after burners every 20min. With all due respect CSM, screw you!

    March 26, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  80. JK

    First of all, everyone complaining about people who never leave the wire. There are serveral different reasons why some people don't leave the wire. There are in fact some lazy people. But I work in the hospital. So I may not be the one directly getting shot at, but I'm the one helping the person who got shot.

    Next, you all act like this fast food is like fast food at home! The food tastes nothing like the real thing. DQ tastes like frozen milk, there's no flavor. We swear the Pizza Hut uses goat cheese and that BKs burgers are made from camel meat.

    I've been eating at the same DFACs for the past 10 and a 1/2 months. The food is the same thing everyday, and it's not nutritious stuff. They give us bruised or old fruit and nasty tasting milk. I have been eating sandwiches and cereal for the past month and figure that's all I will eat till I leave.

    And why are we bringing 35,000 more troops over here? I thought we were pulling out soon. And for the overweight people, taking the fast food away is not enough. Force them to eat healthy and work out WITH them!

    March 26, 2010 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
  81. Allan G

    About time. I gained 10 lbs so far.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
  82. G-funk

    The green bean should go to. I think it is a good but bad ideal. I do not eat a lot of fast food but when you come in from your FOB them food places is like one of the few things you look forward to. I have two 12 month deployments and one 15 I have been to both OIF,OEF and is currently deployed. Keep your head up troops and thanks the American people for your support and understanding.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Fight Hard USMC

    I think its a good idea. What alot of people fail to realize or just do not notice is that there are military personell over there that never leave the base. They just work and sleep and eat burger king or subway or whatever. A ton of these guys are gaining lots of weight out there. Im sorry for the grunts out sleeping in holes and eating MRE's all day but I think its good nutritionally to ditch the fast food crap. Its war people, not a field excercise.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Steve

    We're asking these guys to serve tour after tour and we can't give them Whoppers and DQ? There's obviously some thing wrong with the upper ranks or whomever it is that made this stupid bone headed decision. Troop morale is imperative for success.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  85. MSgt, US Air Force , Retired

    To the person that posted

    "We never had those kind of things when I was in the Army, I got my honorable 5 April 1979 from the 1/52 Infantry."

    Yea yea, and I bet you walked to school everyday, up hill and bare foot. So what?

    MSgt, USAF, Retired

    March 26, 2010 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  86. Steven Q.

    this is pretty messed up because when i was in iraq i would see soldiers morale down but something as small as a whopper or pizza would bring the morale way up and you can see for a fact that they were ready for the next mission. the ones putting this into effect are the ones who are selfish and dont eat or enjoy these things that us soldiers do. i see they are not getting rid of the coffee shop because the ones writing this are the ones who use that coffee shop, wow how selfish of yall. if your gonna get rid of one then get rid of them all, because only the old war vets drink coffee and sit behind their desk while the burger eating, pizza enjoying soldiers are the ones out there doing missions everyday, and this is not a WAR this is a time of rebuilding what we destroyed. and for you marines talking down on the other service branches im gonna tell you something i tell any marine, infantry, tanker, or whoever has a tough job in the service YOU picked your job, YOU signed the contract so if you dont get what others get suck it up and drive on and dont say smart remarks about others. all i gotta say is that this is very selfish of the ones putting this into effect, cut-off everything but the coffee shop because thats what they like, poor leadership decision

    March 26, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Pragmatic

    Suicide rates in the military are already at an alltime high. Let's see how this effects that statistic...

    March 26, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Lloyd Carpenter

    I've spent five years in Iraq or Afghanistan, and am returning to Afghanistan in April. It was a treat to occasionally get fast food on the larger bases, and I never begrudged the opportunity for those stationed there. While I don't know for sure, given the prices charged for food, I strongly suspect that AAFES made a pretty good profit on these sites – and that they were no burden on the taxpayer.

    What the current command fails to realize is that morale comes in a close second to a good supply of bullets. Closing shops, restaurants, theaters and other morale support venues will have an adverse effect, and will provide very little in the nature of additional housing space. Many have commented here on how this impacts our allies – all true. Remember, not every country signed on to provide combat troops. Many are in a support role. So, why make them live hard? Does it make them want to give better support while they are on duty? Seriously, the decision to close the boardwalk in Kandahar and remove the restaurants from US bases is short sighted.

    "Leadership is the art of influencing people in such a way as to accomplish the mission." These are not soldiers on a two week training exercise who can "suck it up." These are soldiers who will spend a year or more on each tour, and will do multiple tours. Show some real leadership, and understand that happy troops are more successful.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  89. overseas vet

    it sucks to be them but they all have the option of getting out and using the money you made to get an education. stop following orders and learn to be in control of your own future. i was in and left when i could not stand being told what to do with little benefits, there are too many times when we were given no preferential treatment because we were a certain MOS or unit. didnt we all sign up to play army so stop complaining that you dont get extras or get out so you can have all the burgers and milkshakes you want.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  90. EWO 4 Life

    I am happy to hear that they are removing some of these "luxuries". During my short, six month tour, I was deployed to a Forward Operating Base, far from these luxuries. It was upsetting to hear fellow members of our TF stationed at Kandahar or Bagram complain that BK ran out of pickles or Subway didn't have cheese. It's time to focus on what's important . . . kicking some serious Taliban tail.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  91. veteran

    The people commenting on this article are unbelievably ignorant.

    Afghanistan is not Iraq.

    Afghanistan is a widely dispersed country with a crippled infrastructure and it takes huge amounts of resources to get supplies delivered to the various outposts. The situation is even further exacerbated when you throw in the growing threat of IEDs and other roadside ambushes. The combat outposts on the frontlines can't get the supplies they need because resources are being used up to deliver burgers and pizzas to the big FOBs where soft-skill MOSs spend their lives in relative comfort working from a desk.

    Shame on the weak soldiers who've spent their deployments living from the comfort of a FOB who are ocmplaining about not getting to have their milkshakes anymore while the men on the frontlines in far-flung outposts can't get the food, water, and ammunition they need to stay alive and defend themselves. This is a war, you should be focused on supporting the men conducting it, not whining about creature comforts.

    March 26, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  92. M. A.

    Burger King and DQ are not luxuries by any means in the States. So to call them as such on a base only reaffirms that our troops don't have much available to them since they are fighting a war, and are away from their families. This is a stupid decision and one which will reduce the amount of already low morale on our basis in Afghanistan.

    March 26, 2010 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  93. Pranchi

    On the bright side, the troops will now have more time to kill civilians. !!!

    March 26, 2010 at 11:53 am | Report abuse |
  94. pp

    Quit comparing the experiences of Vietnam or WWII soldiers to this situation. There wasnt the logistical support at that time like we have now. It took all we had to keep water, food, and ammo to our soldiers back then, that is not the case today.

    This is all about some SGM that has to put his stamp on the war effort...he can say what he wants but the fact of the matter is that he doesnt think its tough enough for those soldiers on the big bases and they should suffer like the guys out in the outposts. I'll bet that he is a combat arms MOS and sees all the support guys waiting in line at BK or the theater and it pisses him off. Old timers in the military always remember how hard it was back in the day and how great we have it now, "road marches up hill both ways, in the snow, with no boots" type of thing.

    Why wouldnt you want to provide your soldiers with all of the amenities that you can? How does showing old movies instead of first run movies make more room for soldiers or allow you to get ammo from one point to another? Give me a break.

    Another thing, if you haven't been pulled away from your family and sent into a warzone, then your opinion on this doesnt have no perspective on the situation, so stfu

    March 26, 2010 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  95. TJK

    I'm currently on a year long in Afghanistan at a post that does not have "American" comforts. We don't have DQ, BK, Pizza Hut, or a Green Beans. Yes, it sucks, but it doesn't hinder my ability to do the job and get home to my family.
    I don't feel bad for anyone sitting in an air conditioned trailer and downing a Whopper and Diet Coke at Bagram. I'm not saying they aren't working hard, they are lazy, or aren't enduring hardships like missing their families. But if the E-4 sleeping in an MRAP can't get a good cup of coffee because he just happens to be on a mission for weeks at a timein the middle of nowhere, why should an mahogany bomber pilot who finagled a cushy job at Kandahar deserve it?
    Maybe the space used to ship in all that crap can now be used to ship better quality food into the AO and out to the outposts. The chow halls are horrible

    March 26, 2010 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  96. Bill Birk

    This has got to be one of the most STUPID decisions the Command in Afghanistan could do! Taking away a little bit of home from the Soldiers and Marines is a pathetic way to have more control over them! Ok if the decision is to close them down then WHY is the GREEN BEAN COFFEE SHOP getting to stay OPEN. I guess that means this Pathetic command does not go to their local DFAC and get their coffee! You know NOT all of the Military frequent the Fast Food places. It is just something different and for some something to look forward to when they go to the Big camps. I also find it strange that some have written that they run out of food out at the small bases. The camps would NEVER run out of food because if they get shortages then they have the fallback of MRE's. Now I can't help it if poor Johnny or Jane does not like them and feels that he needs to go hungry then thats the little P%$%y's problem! I am currently out at a small FOB and the food here is EXCELLENT! Before some of you Bleeding heart rabble carry on about health issues you have to consider how much work some of these guys and gals have to do and the equipment they wear. They burn calories like crazy!

    This LOSER SGM also said that it cause logistic problems with the Extra's brought in, well I guess he forgot or didn't know that most of the Fast Food supplies are brought in by charter NOT Military equipment.

    March 26, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  97. Theresa

    This is a shame, its the small creature comforts that can make a difference and the high point of your day. I was deployed to a bare base in the middle east shortly after 11 Sep 01 and we did not get MWR support for about 3 months and basically there was nothing to look forward to at the end of a long shift and then we got some AAFES stuff and MWR – it was so exciting to just be able to buy some candy and watch a movie. It sounds silly but this is the stuff that helps you keep your sanity.

    March 26, 2010 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
  98. Gary G.

    These poor people have it bad enough ... let them have DQ, BK and the likes. No, things like that weren't available back in my day (60s), but it was impractical and times were different.

    A lot of these people are serving multiple tours, and they're have a really tough time ... so let them have the few things they deserve.

    The Sergeant Major is with the morale department ... well, that figures! It all sounds anal retentive to me.

    March 26, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  99. Adam

    They should invite the Taliban to eat that crap too. Then when the enemy becomes fat like Americans, they be easier to shoot. Funny how friends become enemies.

    March 26, 2010 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
  100. johnny

    I know I am gonna get beaten for saying this, but statements like this – "The guys serving in these places have no choice but to be there" are inaccurate. It's not like the old British guard where they were put in the army for crimes. These guys did sign up to be there. Now where do I stand on the issue?

    Well if the army say it is counterproductive then I have to assume they have done their homework. It definitely sucks for the guys serving. Perhaps after the war the Government and Private sector is where we should start to concentrate on benefits. I for one believe that Veterans who serve overseas should pay little to no taxes for the rest of their lives. Instead we seem to want to appease them with fast food. No taxes or Burger King... Hhhhhmmmm I know which I'd pick.

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