February 16th, 2010
08:44 AM ET

Taliban capture could be 'gold mine' of intel

The Taliban's top military leader, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, has been captured, senior U.S. and Pakistani officials told CNN. He is considered the No. 2 political figure to the Taliban's founder Mullah Mohammed Omar. CNN's Anderson Cooper talked with CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen and Robin Wright, a fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace, about what this capture means.

BERGEN: [This is] a huge deal, arguably more important than Mullah Omar from a military point of view, because Mullah Omar really is more of a religious figure than an operational commander of the Taliban.

This guy also is the number two political figure in the Taliban. The fact that he was discovered in Karachi is very significant. Karachi is the largest city in Pakistan. It's a long way from where the war is being fought, indicates that the Pakistani intelligence services and CIA cooperating very closely on a very high-value target.

COOPER: Doesn't it also kind of give a lie to what the Pakistanis have been saying for ages now, which is that, look, the Taliban is operating in Afghanistan, they're not operating here in Pakistan? If you have the number-two guy of the Afghan Taliban in Karachi, that certainly seems to indicate a heavy presence inside Pakistan itself.

BERGEN: Indeed. Well, it's a good news/bad news story. The bad news is that these guys have been in Pakistan all along. The good news is that the politics are shifting around this issue in the last year or so, and the Pakistani government and military are basically - they realize they created a Frankenstein monster that's begun to attack them and they're willing to not only move against the Pakistani Taliban, but with this news, against the Afghan - so-called Afghan Taliban, which is in fact headquartered in Pakistan.

COOPER: "The New York Times" is reporting that this Taliban military commander is basically being interrogated - the interrogation is being led by Pakistanis, but also that U.S. officials are involved. Obviously, that raises issues of how this guy is going to be dealt with, because the U.S. now says they don't torture. Pakistan obviously has a history of being pretty tough with people they have in custody.

What kind of intelligence could this guy possibly give?

WRIGHT: Well, one of the important things to recognize, that while he's a huge catch in terms of understanding the organization as it's in total, the Taliban is in many ways a decentralized force, and it's not necessarily that he is going to be involved in knowing what every single unit on the ground is doing.

The critical issue is how much will he talk and provide information on where other assets are, potentially where the Taliban in Pakistan are, and, of course, the United States would love to know where Osama bin Laden, himself, is.

BERGEN: Not to mention Mullah Omar, who, after all, is Mullah Baradar's boss, and he might well know where Mullah Omar is. These guys are in constant contact. Now, that kind of information is pretty perishable.

The Taliban is a decentralized group. But the Quetta Shura, which runs the southern Taliban, the one that's doing the operation in Marjah, the one that's in Helmand, the one that's in Kandahar in the south, is run by essentially Mullah Omar and this guy.

And, so, certainly, in terms of the information about the southern Afghanistan operations of the Taliban, this guy is potentially a gold mine.


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  1. Ahmed

    Another capture by Pakistanis like so many before. This Taliban filth was created by the US and unfortunately they have spread across Pakistan. Unfortunately they can't seal the border with afghanistan completely and it could be that they are just not capable. Per Clinton, the US has been disloyal to Pakistan more than once. Yet Pakistanis are still doing all they can to get rid of this violent extremists

    February 16, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Philip

    So torture is OK and only U.S. citizens have rights? I swear the last couple generations have received their "ethics" instruction from Quentin Tarantino and 24. Torture is immoral; destroying the souls of both the prisoner and the participant(s).

    As for the "only U.S. citizens have rights" mantra, I can only say you all should remember that the next time you condemn a foreign government for "violating the rights" of their people. If Iranians don't have rights that are meaningful everywhere and to everyone, then why should Americans care if Ahmadinijad represses his own people? Same is true of Cuba, China, Venezuela, Serbia, Indonesia, N. Korea or any other rogue state du jour. On what moral or legal grounds can any non-citizen, non-resident judge the internal activity of any other foreign government IF you believe that their people's basic rights are contingent upon where they live?

    What about rights in a state of war? Do POWs have rights? Or is it only American POWs that have rights?

    February 16, 2010 at 2:46 pm | Report abuse |
  3. CuriousInMD

    Just want to know how this is defferent than the following "Top Taliban" Military lears being captured or Killed over the last 4 years
    – "Top Taliban commander arrested in Pakistan" – Feb 12, 2008 (Washinton Post)
    – "Taliban's top military commander killed during fighting" – Feb 16, 2007 (The Guardian) Portions taken from story: "Taliban insurgents suffered a grave loss when their top military ... He is the third top commander to have been captured or killed in the past six months. ..."
    – "US says it kills top Taliban leader " – Dec 23, 2006 (Washington Post)
    – "Swat Taliban mouthpiece, top commander captured" – Sept 11, 2009 (Bloomberg)
    – "Taliban Military Leader Is Killed" – Washington Post – May 14, 2007

    Not saying that this is not a good thing, just been here, did that. Someone will take his place and judging by the time frame of these sotried be captured or killed about this time next year.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  4. SactoGary

    Many of the posters here do not understand the role of torture. It should never be used as punishment. It should never be used to determine guilt or innocence, as innocent people will confess in order to stop the pain. However, when you KNOW a subject has information which can be used to spare innocent lives and your own troops, many people believe that you have an obligation to use whatever means necessary to obtain that information. The info obtained must be tested and used judiciously, but the "discomfort" of one enemy combatant may lead to the protection or rescue of many non-combatants, and shorten the entire conflict. At least, that's the theory.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Gary

    The truth be told, what this guy knows is going to be functionally irrelevant by the time this comment posts. Moreover, every study done agrees, and every interrogator understands that the information extracted through "heavy handed" mehods is not reliable. And, arn't we looking for reliable intel? Today is a good day. We have taken the head off the opponent, for the time being. The secrets he alone caries will not be put into action. There will be confusion and disorgnaizaion as the ememy recovers. We may be lucky enough to gleen some useful information from him, but it will likey not come as a result of any of the tactics employed by opressive methods. If you feel like you want to boil this guy in oil, piece by piece, then recongnize it for what it is, vengence. But it is not a proven way to get good informatin. And, yes, we are all in this toghether.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Shadowram

    Osama bin Laden has been reported as dying somewhere between Nov 2001 and Feb 2002.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Ro

    Put aside the partisan crap on here for 5 minutes and appreciate this HUGE win for the military and intelligence community. Wa wa wa wa wa about miranda rights. Torture the hell out of the guy for all I care. We don't have him in custody, the Pakistanis do.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Deezy

    Thank GOD. Let's celebrate this as a victory for AMERICA's military before we get into the political stuff. This is a score for the people who put their lives on the line day in and day out so we can be free to argue on some comment board about the politics. No doubt it's also a win for the current administration, but I would like to see the news and others give more credit to the men and women in uniform instead of talking about the underlying gossip.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  9. papa rich

    whatever hypocrites he'll be read his rights just like over 200 bush era detainees and prisoners. check the facts

    February 16, 2010 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Mikal

    I don't understand why the Obama administration has decided to try terrorists in a civilian court. Terrorists believe they are in a 'war', fighting for their beliefs against whomever. If that's the attitude they have, then when we catch a 'terrorist', why they aren't tried in a military court, as any other enemy combatant would be. Second point everyone seems to forget is that you aren't talking about American citizens for the most part, they're usually people from other countries and there's nothing in the Constitution that I'm aware of that guarantees non-American citizens the same rights as American citizens. For that we can turn to the Geneva Convention Why are we wasting taxpayer money on this?

    February 16, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Aaron

    War is a nasty buisness. We can't torture terrosit anymore because it infringes upon their human rights? I don't think they would excersise the same restraint.
    This war has thus far shown no major results, this article talks about how great this capture is but the fact still remains that its still not Bin-Laden. Is their even a Bin-Laden? We now know their was no WMD's in Iraq, so why should we believe anything out of the governments mouth about what is supposedly going on in Afghanistan?
    Lets start to see some results and just Napalm those mountain ranges to hell and gone, cause as you all know, fire needs oxygen to burn and an entire mountain range of fire would suck all the oxygen out of these sub-human, piece of excrement, terrosist caves.

    February 16, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  12. mppnsg

    for those sarcastically talking about reading this guy his Miranda rights, this guy was not caught in the United States, and is being held by Pakistanis, not the US Government or military (although I am certain they are there). He is not going to be Mirandized. But there is nothing wrong with prosecuting terrorists in a U.S. court if that is the surest way to put them away for a very long time. A little more common sense, a little less politics, please.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Rick R

    Those that are going on about Obama's reading him his rights, seem to forget that it was the Pentagon lawyers who wouldn't let the trigger be pulled when Mullah Omar was in the Preditor's sights when Bush first went into Afghanistan.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Kurt Norway

    He was caught in Pakistan, Being interrogated in Pakistan by Pakistan authorities. Yes! It is the same Pakistan Authorities who said there were no Taliban in Pakistan (Ex. waziristan). The same pakistan authorities who have received millions of US dollars to fight terror. Lets open our eyes and understand that while Pakistan helps the "war on terror", it seems to be pretty much on their terms and what they consider terror. Lets hope the US authorities gain custody of Mullah Bardar. This could well be the light at the end of tunnel. But then again, it cuold be an oncoming train.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:48 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Vemi

    India Intelligence (RAW) was saying she is quite sometime that such groups are operating from Pakistan. It is obvious to all but no one said out loud until today. In addition to Taliban we have a lot more groups out there operating that are a problem for both US and Indian standpoint and needs to be eliminated as soon as possible. just happy to hear atlast Pakistan govt is showing the spine that has been missing since quite some time.Great job everybody involved.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  16. dave

    There are no Pakistani Mirada Rights

    February 16, 2010 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Johnnybegood

    Don't waste my taxes on this guy. Take a hammer and slap a right sack and a then the next one. This guy will sing better than Whitney Houston where Osama is.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Pierre G

    The capture is a very important development, no matter what anyone says it is not easy to simply have "someone else"in charge. The head of the snake has been cut off, the body will not last much longer. Good job to our troops and thank you to those americans risking their lives so the rest of us can lead a safe life

    February 16, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  19. ex...military

    I served in the military for 8yrs, been apart of numbrous of operation. Reading these 2 post, make me realize that, Carl, slick84092 dosen't have a clue.I'm I saying that these guy should have our right, no. Will a military trial work ,in some case but not all. This Guy is basically the number 2 guy. If you think that our interrorgation officer from the military side would produce infromation 90% no. This guy trainings just like we do. We have a school between Ala,Fl that's call SERE school that I had the privilage to graduated from in 2000.Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape 3wks course. The taliban leaders are hard liner they have fought all there life. The only method that going to work is let the Fed's interrorgate, develope leads.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Samir

    It is really amazing to read some of the very unreasonable and frankly, uneducated comments on this thread. At the outset, let me say that I am an independent and like most people in the country moderate. How can anyone think that the capture of this individual is not a big deal? All those posts that rant against Obama for this, to them I say: shame on you!! This has nothing to do with Obama or Bush..and has everything to do with the support of an incredibly challenging mission in some of the most difficult terrain in the world, and within a country that is a known supporter of Islamic fundamentalism. Today's find dispels any doubts that Pakistan has been lying to the international communiity for much longer than it should have been allowed to do. And yes, if the Obama administration takes credit for it (as it will), well it is perfectly entitled to since this a major coup, and all lovers of freedom – conservative or liberal – should be happy with this development.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Herry

    So i guess If we need to find Al Queda ot Taliban search Pakistan.
    All root cause are there in Pakistan the terror factory.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Max

    For you guys who say we need to torture, what are your credentials? Are you experts in the area of interrogation? Oh I know, your common sense is better than the informed opinion of experts in the field. Right? I think we have enough blowhards who like to spout off about things they know nothing about.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Frank

    It is ridiculous how many posters want to say something bad about the U.S. President in connection with this capture. This is not about politics, folks, and torture is (as noted by some intelligent and rational comments) a terrible way to get actionable intelligence. Get over the politics, folks, and just that law-abiding Pakistani and Afgan citizens can someday get on with their lives without the corrupted Islam of Al Queda and the Taliban. This is what victory there looks like, not torture and killing the "bad guys." Grow up.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  24. ASW

    All you losers critizing Obama on here are oblivious to that fact the Arab/Muslim governments are now more open to dealing with us since there is far fewer repercussions dealing with Obama then dealing with Bush. If McCain was President, the Pakistani's wouldn't be working as closely as they are now. Obviously they new this guy and his buddies were in Pakistan all along.

    All you "Miranda Rights" losers are very naive. I am sure that Obama was standing there in the Airport telling someone to read them right? Do any of you guys even have a job?

    February 16, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Report abuse |
  25. CJ

    Carl,

    Every single terror suspect caught on US soil during the Bush administration was read the Miranda and eventually tried in Federal courts. The Obama administration is merely continuing that practice, but of course his detractors would have you believe otherwise to make him seem "dangerous" and "out of touch". This person is clearly an enemy combatant, on foreign soil no less, and would obviously never be read such rights. I know you were being sarcastic, but when you don't know the whole picture and you play loose with the facts, you're doing the rest of us a disservice by spouting your half-wit opinion.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  26. JP

    I'm shocked at how simple most of the above commenters make this out to be. Don't you guys realize we live in a world of gray, and not black and white? As someone else posted, he wasn't "arrested" in the U.S. . He has no rights that we would afford someone apprehended by local or federal authorities here. I'm sure the administration, and the international agencies involved in this capture will do everything they can to obtain critical information. Using this capture as yet another way to disparage the Obama administration is ludicrous. It’s pure politics, and it’s not helpful.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Joe

    From 2001(Cheney/Bush remember?) to now all terrorists have been read their Miranda rights because we can try them as criminals. It leaves them at a disadvantage, If you call them enemy combatants there is the possibility they would get a high powered international law attorney sent by the leaders of their country instead of some state appointed defense lawyer. To make Mirandizing criminals about Obama shows the grand lack of understanding concerning how we have been dealing with this for 10 years.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  28. GAHokie

    Rights? As in “The Bill of Rights”? How can you say that this man has rights? His main objective in life is to extinguish all things Western and you two are talking about rights of a terrorist? That is just astonishing to me. Terrorists should not have rights, period. Let the Pakistani officials obtain the information from him, then bring him to the U.S. to face trial.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  29. GRT

    I'm sure every former U.S. Prisoner of War, (as my father was) would disagree with all who are espousing 'torture' in their comments. Be thankful that none of your sons and daughters ever be captured and subjected to torture as your are suggesting is 'commendable'. If you feel so strongly, why don't you enlist so you can get over there and 'do your part' instead of armchair quarterbacking. I have full confidence in our
    Commanders that they will obtain the necessary information, it doesn't happen in a day. This very good news for the U.S.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Tammy

    What is the problem? Even if you don't agree with president Obama, this is a great victory for America. So what, even criminals need to have their rights read to them and to understand them. Grow up people. We have home grown terroist that live next door and kill Americans everyday. We wouldn't want them walking and going free over something as minor as not having their rights read....would we? I guess it's only a big deal if the president is asking that it be done. Hate is a bad thing and he can't see the Lord with hate in our hearts for someone....not even the president:) Like him, love him, disagree with him, don't listen to him but please don't hate him.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  31. wow

    It is wonderful to see people still alluding to the "Christmas bomber" being read his Miranda rights.

    1) All suspects, terrorists or otherwise arrested within the U.S. are read this, even during the Bush administration there was no exception. The CIA does not arrest people in the US, and the CIA does not read Miranda to anyone.

    2) Suspects who are tortured generally give false information. It is a tool to get people to make false confessions, not tell what they know. 24 is not real. However entertaining it is not reality.

    3) The "Christmas Bomber" cooperated with and continues to cooperate with authorities. They already arranged strikes with the Yemen government against targets related to information he gave.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Dave

    What they beleive is Islam. I no more subscribe to the statement that these people are doing this because they think this is Islam than to the belief that will ever walk on the moon. It gives them power over others and control of those lives. They know what Islam is just like Dillinger knew what legal was. It doesn't matter to them. They do because they can. Period.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Sam

    Great find! Excellent work fellas! I think it's a good time fro President Obama to re-state President Bush's position to Pakistan. You're either with us or against us!!!........and it's not healthy to be against us. They need to step up to the plate and stop lying.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Dawn

    Where was the uproar when the Bush Administration prosecuted through the criminal courts and mirandized prisoners? If you were against it then and now...great. But if this is purely political, and it only started to bother you when Obama became President, that's disgusting.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Joan Schenk tintle

    What I don't understand is some peoples attitude to justify torture if the people we capture are our enemies. if that is our attitude then where do we differ from them. and if we think we have a right to torture them then I believe the enemy has won already in justifying their actions and changing our whole value system. so then what the heck are we fighting for? I do believe that fear motivates so many of us rather than the moral values we are fighting to preserve.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Alric

    So how much are Carl and slick getting paid by the RNC to spin a great capture into somekind of failure of Obama? This is good progress for this adminstration and these petty attacks are just signs of how bad the Neocons want us to forget the worst 8 years of policy and military ineptness.

    Congrats to the new adminstration.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  37. linda in AR

    Great that he has been captured. Hope this helps bring some 'peace' to Karachi and beyond.

    Personally, I wish that Baradar was in US custody so we could read him his Miranda rights. He is in Pak custody [I'm assuming ISI] for questioning. The USA will be given access to any intel that Pak obtains.

    For all you torture them and deny them rights folks, Pakistan hardly has a reputation for treating prisoners with loving care and kindness.

    Gotta wonder how valid the intel from Baradar will be with this arrangement. Since we have to assume any "Intel" obtained with torture is unreliable at best and then filtered by the ISI, the info gained may be not be the most reliable for our purposes. Unfortunately, Pakistan is Pakistan.

    Just wondering if the capture of al-Eidan in Oman with contact info in his possession led to Baradar's capture. Just trying to connect the dots with this happened in Jan and is just now being reported.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/02/15/oman.terrorist.suspect.arrest/index.html

    February 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Jonathan Koppel

    Or we can join such honorable nations such as Nigeria, Iran and North Korea and shoot him in the head with no need for due process...

    Now there's a group of nations we want to be associated with.

    February 16, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Suist

    I so don't believe the media on what they are saying. Yes, this guy may be a major player in the Taliban but if they think such a major player will talk, they know nothing about these people. Let's get it straight all – the Obama Administration definitely needs a "coup" so they and their friendly media i.e. Anderson Cooper and most major media outlets, will milk this for all it's worth. It's great we have sent 15,000 troops against 1,000 Taliban and are making some progress. Let's send more and more and get rid of this problem. The main thing is the American public has to wake up to reality both in our congress and our liberlism. I think we are beginning to do it...let's keep going forward.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  40. T.K.Roy

    MAG Baradar,s capture is of great significance. Now we know how Pakistanis have hoodwinked the US intelligence and the Administration extracting billions of dollars in variuos financial and military aids . Using all these to advance terrorism against US, India and other friendly innicent nations and their people. Are we going to be a bit wiser now?
    Dr.T.K. Roy

    February 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  41. thomas

    How can u say that we need to read him his Miranda rights? THIS IS A WAR AND ITS IN PAKISTAN HE DOESN'T GET MIRANDA RIGHTS. I HOPE THEY MAKE HIM SEQUEL LIKE A PIG.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Texas Mike

    We better get him on trail in New York too!!We need NOT screw this one up!

    February 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  43. Andy

    Why is it that as soon as something good something happens in terms of protecting American lives we turn to choosing sides....aren't we all in this together as Americans. Innocent people are dying horrible deaths. Put the politics aside. This is a victory for all of us, no matter what"side" you are on. I for one am on the side of a world without extremists who murder the innocent. Congrats to our government, as well as the Pakistani government for working together to make us safer.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
  44. 7papa7

    I feel confident that Obama will do everything in his power to make sure that we are unable to get any good intel from him. He will probably be on the next flight out for the states where he can be mirandized and stop talking. We certainly wouldn't want him to be unjustly accused of anything now would we? We can only hope that the military can keep him far away from this terrorist loving administration. Maybe we should turn him over to the Pakastanis, that will get good intel quickly.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Licinius

    Yeah, wouldn't it be great if we were like Pakistan or Russia– nobody has Miranda rights, and they NEVER suffer from terrorism, right?

    February 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Dboy

    He's not in the US you simpletons. As long as he's kept in Pakistan where he was captured then the legal issues are simple. It's only when you kidnap people and put them in black site torture camps that the legal issues start. Have you guys not been paying attention for the last 8 years?

    February 16, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Q3

    Bring in Jack Bauer....Jack will get the info we need.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  48. shan mann

    I cant believe that the US Government and Military are so gullible. The Pakistan Army and its Henchman the ISI (their spy agency) created the Taliban and know their movements. All they are doing is giving up their information and whereabouts as they feel. The Pakistan Government has a very incestuous relationship with all these Terrorist organizations who have infiltrated their Armed forces and civil society. We the US need a complete no nonsense policy with Pakistan, any attacks from the Pakistan should be quashed with a Military response.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Mark

    Please! Miranda rights only come into play if the illegal act occurred on US soil. International law will be applied to Baradar. This is precisely the kind of detention and intelligence the Obama Administration's new strategy in Afghanistan was intended to obtain. So, get a grip and applaud the new efforts!

    February 16, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  50. 4conns

    I'm not going to get too excited too soon. Time will only tell how much info we get from the Mullah cleric...and how much is accurate. We've been through this before. It IS good to have his decision-making power and thinking out of the arena of influence for the time being, however. Let's just hope for a positive turn in this war on behalf of the Afghan people.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
  51. notfooledbydistractions

    Grow up posters 1 & 2.

    Do you happen to know how many of the terrorists – or suspected terrorists – that have been captured have been mirandized since 2001?

    All of them.

    Stop being dupes for the nonsensical talking points.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  52. logan

    You captured their leader, thats it, its all over, theres no way someone else will step up and take his place...........The problem with this war is that its a war of ideoligies, no matter how many of them you kill or capture there will be 2 or 3 ready to take their place, you can't beat a group of people who truely believe in what their doing by conventional military means, and unfortunatly we continue to find this out the hard way by flying mean and women home in boxes, and for what?

    February 16, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Ronald

    My congratultions to the invisible and unsung heroes, both American and Pakistani, who risked their lives so that wthe rest of us were free to debate the merits of Mullah Baradar's ultimate disposition. The war against terrorism is being won by people who have not yet been properly thanked. Let me say thanks to our intelligence services for all they do, day in and day out.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Joel Steiner

    This guy was captured in a battle zone, in a foreign country, by soldiers. It is obvious that our US law and Constitution do not apply.

    With respect to the "Christmas Under Pants Bomber", since when if someone is arrested by the police for committing a criminal act on US soil do US laws, including that pesky inconvenience, the Constitution, not apply.

    Following our own laws is what makes us different/better than the bad guys.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  55. NSEC

    Unfortunately for Baradar, the U.S. does not have legal custody of him. He was captured on Pakistani soil, in a densely populated area that is under the strict control of the Pakistani government. Even though it was a joint operation that involved Pakistan, the U.S, and possibly many other cooperative nations, Baradar will remain a prisoner of Pakistan. This means that there is no possibility for Baradar to be extradited to the U.S. for interrogation, and thus no possibility for him to have any Miranda rights, as it is a U.S. legal statute. He is quite simply on his own. However, if there were to be any legal allegations concerning his imprisonment being a detriment to his human rights, the United Nations would be the sole authority in the matter.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  56. adaradrian

    "the interrogation is being led by Pakistanis" I am not a Pakistan law expert but I don't think they have Miranda rights there. Please read the article before posting idiotic comments.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
  57. Marc

    Please keep him in Pakistan. The Obama Administration will treat him far too lightly if he comes to the USA. Its time to pull out all the stops on this guy!

    February 16, 2010 at 12:16 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Tom

    Slick,

    The only rights he has is as a war criminal, nothing else.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Bob Pacific Grove, Ca

    How can anyone in his/her right mind think that the capture of this terrorist commander is not great for America and the soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Pakistan?......Only a traitor would mock the significance of this success story.......

    February 16, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  60. DJinTX

    Not only that...don't forget to PAY for his legal defense out of our tax dollars.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Jaime Greer

    How about a good old fashioned Taliban Stoning for him or we can strap a suicide bomb vest on him armed with fire crackers after we get all the intel we need. We could have him denounce the Taliban and say how they are all jackals and cowards that they don't have a clue about what it is to be a Muslim. Better yet how about a life sentence in a military jail.

    February 16, 2010 at 12:01 pm | Report abuse |
  62. lou

    Wow! and it only took 8 years. at this rate we can withdraw circa 2095.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
  63. Tony

    I don't think that the Pakistanis believe in the Miranda rule. As long as they have him, they'll get any usefull intel for their ops. Hopefully, something good for us will come out of it.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  64. jpk11202

    Sad thing is, this guy is not going to willingly give information. He needs some "encouragement" to do so. Why would a terrorist willingly give information that will help bring down his organization?? They are not soft; we are.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:42 am | Report abuse |
  65. Helena

    Way to go United States Troops and allies! Way to go President Obama & V.P. Biden for focusing on Afghanistan and Pakistan!

    February 16, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  66. Matt

    Make sure we read him his Miranda rights?! Did we need to read every Nazi solider we captured his Miranda rights as well? This is an enemy on the United States, a known terrorist, someone who is fighting our government. The police didn't apprehend him during a drug bust, the military captured him. He doesn't need any Miranda rights read to him.

    This does NOT mean i think he should be tried in a Military tribunal vs a civilian court, I'm still undecided on this. But reading them their Miranda rights right away? Oh come on people this is war!

    February 16, 2010 at 11:35 am | Report abuse |
  67. Bill

    It's pretty sad to see that so many Americans think that reading someone their Miranda rights is a bad thing. The moral values in this country are going down the drain...

    February 16, 2010 at 11:21 am | Report abuse |
  68. Laura

    Yes, he should be mirandized. We are a nation of laws. The rule of law is what separates us from them.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  69. james

    You can Mirandize him, but make sure you have his daddy's phone number first so you can call him and get him to talk sonny boy into talking.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  70. Bobby

    The CIA doesn't arrest people, they "detain" them, and he's not being held in the US so you can't Mirandise him. If the Obama administration is smart this guy will never reach US soil.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  71. Josh

    Idiots!! The guy who tried to blow up the plane back on Christmas Eve was read his rights because what he did was not only an act of war, but punishable under criminal law as well. He was read his rights because it happened in the U.S. Obviously if he was captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan the SOB won't be read his rights. Maybe if you did your research instead of focusing on FOX Noise or the Crappy News Network's talking points, you would have thoughts of your own.

    February 16, 2010 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  72. Matt

    Hey slick84092,

    This is a terrorist leader who has viable information. Not a brainwashed kid who probably didn't even know what country he was coming from.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  73. franswa

    Let's force him to live in the U.S, earn minimum wage, and work at McDonalds, ride the bus everywhere, and live in assisted housing. Oh wait, that would be torture. Only Americans have to be subjected to this, not our enemies.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  74. Joe Marciniak

    Our troops are now proving they are in the right place and are now kicking ass. PUTTING PRESSURE WHERE IT BELONGS. The Taliban is hurt big time, God protect our troops and God Bless America.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
  75. Brent

    These guys should be treated by the militaries code of justice, not by civilian standards. This is a war, were not talking about someone who stole a car. We must work harder to develop educational alternatives to the radical islamic teachings that fuel terrorists. The book Three Cups of Tea gives a great example of how supporting poor Pakistani and Afganistani children with educational alternatives to the radical Islamic education can make a huge difference. We spend billions on the military but we fail to carry thru with the promises we make to aid these people. I know that we have plenty of need right here in the USA but we are being forced to spend billions defending our country because these people are radicalized due to the lack of alternative influences.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:54 am | Report abuse |
  76. Jay

    I don't know why people are afraid of treating people with dignity. Read him his rights, try him, and hang him. He is certainly guilty. Let us keep our heads up high and look the enemy in the eye on our terms, not their savage rules.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  77. De Brooks

    It is encouraging that there is one less Taliban loose in this world. It is even more encouraging that it is the Taliban's top military leader.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
  78. edward Sevume

    So, If this guy was cornered in a dark corner somewhere in your state, he should have been pelted with stones – just like in Iran. Civilized! In Africa, when they corner a person on suspicion of being a thief, he would be dead before the investigation is done. And this is utter sheer barbarism compared only to the one urshered in by the Germanic tribes at the time of the Roman Empire! Look, stop harrasing the president! All these comments are just but a cover for the hate you horbour for Obama! Irrespective of what he has done or trys doing, he is dead wrong from the outset! Common, get seriuos! Show how you the citizens of America have a high erudition in these matters and that you have the right of commenting on other nations shortcomings! Hold a high ground otherwise these comments just show new lows everytime they are manifasted!!!!!

    February 16, 2010 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  79. lucy

    Let's see, our current administration has obtained the cooperation of the Pakistanis and captured the most significant figure to date, in Karachi, which obviously required major on-the-ground intelligence and huge cooperation, not to mention obtained more helpful information from a low level panty-bomber, captured significant files on yemeni terrorists, and all you clowns can do is make sarcastic references to miranda rights? Too bad the Cheney administration didn't do as well. When do you get embarrassed by your partisan ignorance?

    February 16, 2010 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  80. KB NC

    He's an enemy combatant right? Send him to Gitmo and let the handlers handle him.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  81. Sam

    I can't believe you want to read him Miranda rights!
    I would think your first concern would be getting intel from him.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  82. Dan

    Great job by US Intel. I'm sure this will prove to be very valuable. It's typical that the republicans -Carl & Slick would create a negitive out of a positive. Us vs. Them mentality...Morons.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  83. eltercero

    it's a good thing, americans should realize pakistan is not our ally and they harbor terrorists. if you harbor terrorists, you are a terrorist period. its time america cuts its links from pakistan...as far as these miranda rights...get real

    February 16, 2010 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  84. David

    Why is it a problem to treat the prisoner civilly? Why is it "cool" to sink to their level and torture (as the previous administration did)? If you find yourself thinking "to heck with them, they deserve to be tortured" then you are thinking EXACTLY the way the extremists over there are. Sad.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  85. Dave Wyman

    The first couple of comments above mine have made anti-Obama statements, and the people who wrote them think torturing a human being is OK. Which means, when it comes to morality, they are the equal of our Taliban enemy.

    The comments also show the lack of understanding about the meaning of equality for all, at least on U.S. soil. Our country was founded on the idea that everyone gets a fair shake from our government.

    People like those above who would do away with our rights and who think torture is OK, and who are blinded by their hate for Obama, would probably be a lot happier living in Afghanistan.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  86. sean o m

    seriously? this may be the best news out of afghanistan short of capturing Osama Bin Label himself, and the first two comments on the matter are in regards to the Miranda warning b.s.?! First of all, the xmas underpants bomber is talking! Second of all, Baradar is in Pakistani custody (its all in the article above) – e.g., no Miranda rights required by US law.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  87. Frank Crockett Ewing

    Anyone who criticizes this capture or the administration better think about what this country stands for. First of all, there is the Geneva Convention, remember World War II? The nazis killed millions, but we did not endorse torture or deny people rights. This is also UNDECLARED war making for interesting legal complications. In the end, one of our STRENGTHS as AMERICANS is that we treat everyone as human beings, at least when the rules are being followed. Imagine how the world will react when they see that we take prisoners and DO NOT torture and treat with the rule of law. This approach will only STRENGTHEN our nation and our position in the world. I understand others frustration and complaints, it is not always easy to "do the right thing", in the end it is that very thing that makes us proud Americans.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
  88. Smee

    Are you kidding me?

    "the poor guy... ?? Does not matter what he has done or how many people his decisions have killed, just read him his rights" – !!?!?

    He's a TERRORIST. He should be tortured until he shares every last ounce of information he has so we can bring the entire taliban down.

    Hooray for the US military! You men and women ROCK.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  89. Jordan

    Glad to hear the Pakistanis are getting a "go" at him now, because as soon as he's handed over to Obama's guys he's likely to get a foot massage, cucumber facial and a room at the Ritz. Thanks Obama for weakening our national security, endangering our citizens and making us look weak in the eyes of the world....great job.....

    February 16, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  90. Gustavo

    #1 and #2, if you all want people to be tortured, write your congressman and tell him to change our laws. I'm all for torture if we can get valuable information but I am more for following our existing laws. Neither of you should hold it against Obama for following the law. As Nixon learned (and Bush should have), no president should be above the law

    February 16, 2010 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  91. Seppi

    I don't think the Pakistanis are gonig to read him any rights at all, and it is their interrogation. US is just having a presence there, I dont' think any of our guys are gonna stick up for him, nor should they.

    February 16, 2010 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  92. George Mead

    To Cooper: Why are you so concerned that Baradar might be made uncomfortable during his interrogation on foreign soil - where the U.S. code of ethics does not apply??

    February 16, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  93. Dave

    You guys are pathetic! We achieve a significant intel victory in the context of a major military offensive and the Pakistanis are interrogating him. That's good news! Think of our boots on the ground not petty political sound bites!

    February 16, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  94. Robert

    I highly doubt this guy will be read his Miranda rights or get any kind of cushy treatment. He is in joint CIA/Pakistani custody, it would seem. I would imagine he will be rode hard and put away wet until he talks. Even if there is no US involvement in anything that could be defined as torture, I'm pretty sure the Pakistanis will go by their SOP, which is not nearly as light-handed as ours.

    Just because the Obama administration wants to take a prominent figure from the enemy camp and try them in a civilian setting, which we all know is a dog and pony show anyway, is no indication that the administration will be lenient with anyone.

    Has there been a successful attack against a US civilian target since Obama took office? Have there been foiled attacks? The Obama administration is on the job.

    February 16, 2010 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
  95. castor oil

    Never let this guy leave Pakistan. Squeeze him for all the info you can get and then put him in solitary somewhere. Keep him under wraps until he can be disposed of quietly.

    February 16, 2010 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
  96. dfree40

    Dont bring him to Wasington, he might be confused with some of our congressmens

    February 16, 2010 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
  97. TK

    You guys are dumb. First off, he is not a US citizen so we don't need to worry about reading his miranda rights. Actually, we don't need to worry about ANY of the rights that apply to US citizens.

    However, we ARE bound by international law. And international law includes rules about how enemy combatants must be treated. (for example: we are not allowed to torture captives under INTERNATIONAL law)

    February 16, 2010 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
  98. Alert Citizen

    Does anyone care? India has been shouting about Pakistan's involvement in terrorism. But United States wants to keep it under the cover due to their vested interest in Pakistan. Why is there a difference in the approach of US while dealing with the news of Pakistan becoming a nuclear state and Iran becoming a nuclear state? Iran is bad just because their presidents flips a bird at US? Common.
    Sooner US leaves their partial approach towards Pakistan aside, better it will be for every human being.

    February 16, 2010 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
  99. slick84092

    Better make sure we read him his Miranda rights immediately. The poor guy has rights, you know. Does not matter what he has done or how many people his decisions have killed, just read him his rights & bring him to Washington, DC to help advise the Obama administration on how to better treat the unfortunate souls fighting for what they believe is Islam.

    February 16, 2010 at 9:32 am | Report abuse |
  100. Carl

    So how soon is the Obama administration going to insist that he be read his Miranda warning?

    February 16, 2010 at 9:30 am | Report abuse |
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