February 4th, 2010
01:42 PM ET

British troops gear up for major offensive

LONDON, England  - British troops have launched air and ground operations in preparation for a "major offensive" in southern Afghanistan, the Defence Ministry said Thursday.

Royal Welsh Guards, Grenadier Guards and Scots Guards were involved in the operations to the south of Nad Ali district in Afghanistan's Helmand province, the ministry said.

The operation is being conducted with Afghan security forces and is part of the preparation for a NATO-led offensive called "Operation Moshtarak."

The U.S. Marines have been cranking up plans for a major operation against the insurgency in Taliban-controlled Marjah, a town with 80,000 to 100,000 people, also in the Nad Ali district. That push is focused on a swath of territory considered the last major stronghold of the Taliban in Helmand province.

The insurgency there has influence stretching to Pakistan and the bordering provinces of Nimruz and Farah.

- CNN's Matiullah Mati contributed to this report

Filed under: Operation Moshtarak
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  1. the plain truth

    This war is a disgrace, comments on this site say "give them hell" does this include the innocent people?? You have no idea what war means, america have 1 bomb in 10 years yet they have bombed hundreds of thousands times since, when are you going to realise that this war is the greatest recruiting tool and thanks to the bloody americans the Taliban are armed to the teeth, oh a bit like saddam, you have no shame

    February 12, 2010 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Alan Tren

    There is no such regiment as the Royak Welsh Guards. There are the Welsh Gauards and the Royal Welsh (battle group). The latter is the regiment that will be involved here.

    February 11, 2010 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
  3. James Dean

    @ Ziggy

    The soldier is using an SA80 A2 assault rifle, equipped with SUSAT sight and Underslung Grenade Launcher. Similar to what A. Smith was saying, it is a bullpup design, using NATO 5.56mm ammunition.

    February 8, 2010 at 3:40 pm | Report abuse |
  4. usuf ali

    thanks us administration and the us commander in afghanistan for taking right action to fix the so called TALIBAN the enemy of the civilised society. my special thanks to the BRITISH INFANTRY
    taking part to fight terrorism in afghaniatan. i have very high regard for british army. i am hope ful they will fight with fullest. they will retain the title of BEST ARMY OF THE WORLD. the supporter of the civilised socity and against the terrorist must give moral support to us and allied forces. we must wish one day there is no trace of terrorist and total vanish of TALIBAN from the world scene. our next generarion must live peacefully. every soldier will ever ever remembered for the secrifice they
    made.those who lost their lives will always remembered with highest degree of honour all over the world. irrespective of their nationalities. SOLDIERS ARE SOLDIERS their heroism ever remains.

    February 8, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Nathanael [desert voice]

    By the way, if I were the commander of the U.S. forces, I would do everything in my power not to allow the Taliban the propaganda victory of disabling a hundred of heavy armored vehicles, turning Marjah into an American "tank graveyard." May that is their plan. not to fight frontally, but to inflict some spectacular hardware damage using the shoulder-fired rocket-propelled grenades! I just wonderb if it isn't better to do heavy scouting before going in.

    February 8, 2010 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Nathanael [desert voice]

    This is shaping to be the greatest battle in history that never was. I am not complaining. It's sure better this way, for battless cost lives. By the time the Marines go in there may be no one left. No Taliban. Only IED's here and there. That's the way it should be. Taliban is in no position to lose this battle, so there will be no battle. But this will not mean that the Taliban do harm in other ways. I fear some serious infrastructure "damage." The IED's can make the Afghan government think twice before taking over the governance. And finally there is the prospect of the Taliban coming back at a time least expected. For it is possible that they have secret hiding places, tunnels perhaps, that the Marines don't expect. I wouldn't follow in President Bush's footsteps announcing victory too soon.

    February 8, 2010 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
  7. RT

    Why cannot we do away with fossil fuel as a triggering element for our prime movers out there (Let us forget return-of-investment of oil sucking rigs we've recently plugged in! there)?

    Solar, wind, temperature, lightning, sea/ocean currents, aside of course from nuclear fission (good use only, please) should be more than enough.

    If we can, there should be no point shedding human/animal blood at all at some Creator's foresaken (if I may say so) place?


    February 8, 2010 at 7:19 am | Report abuse |
  8. Paul

    Good luck boys!

    February 8, 2010 at 7:05 am | Report abuse |
  9. Javed

    I like to comment on some of the messages , I am curntlly living in Kandahar , Afghanistan with my family, for some of these guys who do not know the history of Afghanistan, let me clear it to you. I know Afghanistan is mainlly tribesmen, but I also know they were once world most innocent people until USSR and U.S started their cold war games.

    In late 70's when I was just 9 years old living in Kandahar city, life was very peaceful, our police and solders used to carry only wooden sticks as weapons. the reason is that Afghanistan and it's people were innocent and peaceful. I also remembered when Russian invaded our peaceful country and brought with them western made weapons, tanks and war planes and made our lives a misery as it is now.
    If someone calls Afghanistan a barbaric country, I think they are retarded and do not know anything about Afghanistan.

    The American's convinced the Afghans to fight the USSR, now that the country is full of high tech weapons in the hands of U.S made warlords I don't think it is wise for the world to pull out. In my opinion (Afghanistan is not only the Afghan people's problem , The U.S need to put their full effort into the stability and development of this country as they created this problem through creating the Mujaheddin or freedom fighters against the Russians.

    Now you guys could call Afghans whatever you want, cos you created the monster.

    February 8, 2010 at 4:17 am | Report abuse |
  10. emily

    world war three

    February 8, 2010 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
  11. justinpet

    Im tired of hearing about this stuff. If we get out cool if we dont more money for me cause I get to deploy again.also we are here to help these people and we are willing to deploy thats why we signed that contract. The next person that says this a war for oil I hope you get blown up by an ied for being dumb. Yes Iraq was a pointless war yea we know that. Afghanastan is winnable you watching the news and they tell you its bad. They dont see whats going on here. We are doing good for Iraq and Afghanastan. I believe we will get out of Afghanastan and Iraq , everyone will agree with me on this even alot of troops in Iraq and Afghanastan believe this, there country will fall. I trained with Iraqi police and army , THEY ARE HORRIBLE AND THEY SUCK BAD AND THEY DONT LISTEN AND THEY DONT CARE. Tried to teach em how to enter and clear a room with my squad they messed it up so bad every time. We gave up on them. Everyone who doesn't know anyone in the military talk to them. Talk to the people in the marines and army who are in combat troops not cooks or some pog mos. Most of them will tell you they are glad to do there job they love it and to not get married before you deploy . I gotta go I can go on and on peace.

    February 7, 2010 at 5:52 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Jon

    That's what I'm talking about yeah! Americans can always count on the British!

    February 7, 2010 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
  13. Kathryn

    We need to band together politically and clearly mentally... Viva the USA.

    February 7, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  14. joseph chielli

    The theme that underlies all this conflict in the Middle East is a long-standing one. It is basically about more powerful countries imposing their will on smaller less powerful sovereign states.

    Even the Israeli Palestinian problem is a result of powerful nations imposing their solutions and ideas on small week sovereign states. The powerful countries of the world really need to stop doing this. They need to stop this economic and especially "cultural" imperialism. They need to realize that their particular forms of politics, and religion, social structures and materialism are relativistic in terms of value. Democracy does not necessarily work, and is not necessarily beneficial to every social system on planet Earth. In fact, it doesn't even work so well here in the US.

    Human beings have an amazing arrogance with respect to assuming that what they consider right and just and of value should be considered in the same way by other human beings. Human beings also have a tremendously wide spectrum of behaviors and values in their repertoire. Until we begin to adapt a sense of the Einsteinian relativity with respect to social systems, these kinds of stupid conflicts will continue until some final Armageddon shuts down the craziness of the modern world.

    February 7, 2010 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
  15. mr j

    Hopefully for the USA and NATO history does repeat itself. The Russians falled in Afgasnistan and a monumental scale. The USA falled once before when we tried to support the tribal leaders in Afganistan with weapons to fight the Russians. The USA actually supplied stinger missles to tribes in Afganistan to fight the Russians, as it turns out the Russians left Afganistan because they could not win the war there. The USA became the next target of the Jihad and we offered to pay the Tribal leadrers in Afganistan $100,000 for each stinger missle they return so that they would not use them on USA trops on civilians around the world. Afganistan has been a hot bed of terrorist activity for decades. You should read GHOST WARS it will shed light on why the USA will or will not succeed in Afganistan.

    February 7, 2010 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  16. SHOAIB

    why cant america stay out of aothers afairs innocent talibanis are not creating problem in america than why america is poking his nose ..................its clear its not war on terrorism its war against muslims & thirst for muslim blood & fuel.............days are not far aways inshallah when america & their allies will pay heavily for their injustice & cruelity .........still they didnt understand how can handfull of talibans are fighting against the worlds strongest heavily equipped (drones tanks fighters etc) forces????? answer is simple alah is with them they are fighting for the cause.

    February 7, 2010 at 4:41 am | Report abuse |
  17. SHOAIB

    infact now more population is attracted towards islam everybody realised the cruelity & dominance of western world. everyday americans are inventing one new distructive wepon & they want others to stay away from getting the technology which they acquire 50 years back why whole world is dump & deaf ................................but true muslims are over all this we have allah the greatest power on our side we will defeat enemies of islam without weapons inshalah i can see the end of americam dominance very soon as it is written in Quran that muslim will rule & we belive in each & every word from Quran which is whitout any auta doubt words of Allah. lailaha illallah mohammadur rasool allah

    February 7, 2010 at 4:30 am | Report abuse |
  18. SHOAIB

    americans can never win in afghanistan.....................& they have already realised that

    February 7, 2010 at 3:42 am | Report abuse |
  19. deepwater805

    No one has ever won in Afghanistan. Not the US, not the Russians, not the 19th century British, not the Persians, and not even Alexsander the Great could defeat these barbaric tribesmen. He had to marry their kings daughter just to get himself untangled from the quagmire of Afghanistan, and get the heck out of there quickly, before he lost even more of his army. There's only one possible way to win in Afghanistan, and that's something no civilized country is willing to do. Yet.

    February 7, 2010 at 3:27 am | Report abuse |
  20. ihopeimakeittohaven

    the white man is to blame for this

    February 6, 2010 at 8:25 pm | Report abuse |
  21. airconn

    I have a son who is a U.S.Marine whom has been there 3 times already. We do not belong in these country's. Once we leave if ever, these people will still be killing each other forever. Read your history for the last 2000 years, about the hate these people have for each other. And we will not stop this no way no how.

    February 6, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
  22. A. Smith, Oregon

    @ Ziggy, the British soldier appears to be holding a German made Heckler and Koch G36 variant known as the G36k AG36. A good looking weapon, although it uses the puny 5.56x45mm NATO rounds. It seems that the UK has been working with a similar bull-pup variant that uses a heavier round with great success but it is only in the development stages.

    February 6, 2010 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Harley Roy

    A modest word of advice from an old former soldier who'es been there and done it ,to all those yet to serve!!! To once again quote my old Australian father" If you intend to go to dinner with the devil, then make sure you've got a long spoon in both hands" !!!

    February 6, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  24. ganga

    most of us should agree with LARRY comment NO-1 to this article.
    allied forces must not give the time and a chance to run or prepare

    February 6, 2010 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
  25. usuf ali

    the plan for ofensive is right action. it should not be delayed one.if such actions are not taken , the lives gone to fight terrorism will go in vain. the secrifices made by those departed soul and real heroes (soldiers ) will be a insult. the muslim terrorist must be finished once for all they are a curse for the civilised world.

    February 6, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  26. michael soliere

    We need to hold the pockets, and surround them and crush them..

    February 6, 2010 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  27. Graham

    "End All U.S. Welfare to England." Just out of curiosity, what welfare would that be? I've always thought of the US as our staunchest and only real ally, but I wasn't aware we were taking any handouts. Anyone care to enlighten me.

    February 6, 2010 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  28. Sam

    I completely agree with Will on this one. As a future member of the U.S. Army I want to be sent out to Afghanistan to help the people and to help train their troops so that they may be able to protect their people. Why anyone from the U.S. would ever compare us to the Soviets is also insulting and they should definitely recheck their history as Will said.

    February 6, 2010 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
  29. Rick Indiana

    The US will never leave Afganastan. They will always have a base camp here and there just like S.Korea.

    February 6, 2010 at 1:53 am | Report abuse |
  30. dark47

    an answer to William Oregon.
    First of all we did not arrive in Afghanistan in 1988 when Soviets left but "only" 13 years later when "the seed" we planted in Afghan soil, has grown to the proportion we did not planed nor ever imagined. That seed is called today Taliban in a comparison to the eighties or nighties but hey what you William did not considered as a fact we are talking about the same kind of people be them Taliban, Jihad fighters or fundamental streams from Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. It does not matter how they call themselves they are still the same layer of people who appreciate more, in what they believe in than any idea of better life (Soviet or our view of democracy and freedom).
    Second I am not a couch worrier with no knowledge of how hard is for our troops to fight over there. I have had an unfortunate opportunity to be an active part in a civil war that reflects lots of similarities to the Afghanistan "war environment". I have had fought on the side poorly equipped as the Taliban forces are and the only reason we often stayed alive in the battles against VERY WELL equipped army was that we had fighters who have volunteered (from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Afghanistan) to fight on our side. These guys were crazy good. I would say that none of us would ever be that good soldier as we serve army as a career not a destiny.
    The third and the last William, you said we are there to rebuild Afghanistan and/or Iraq, very nice saying. But William, do you know why Afghanistan and Iraq are in ruins? Read some history books and find for how long we (Coalition democracy world) have kept Afghanistan and Iraq under economical sanctions and how much "collateral" damage we managed to make while moving into these countries in 2001 and 2003 respectively. If we have not done these things over period of time both countries will be still nice and beautiful as they were in pre-Soviet era to quote your own words.

    February 6, 2010 at 1:25 am | Report abuse |
  31. mike

    When a country invades another country its no longer called a war, whats going on in Afghanistan and Iraq is not war. Theres other things going on, The reason the so called "War on terror" started in Afghanistan, was to locate Osama Bin Laden. Has he been found yet?, no. Is the number one priporty for the foreign troops presence in Afghanistan to locate Bin laden?, I highly doubt that. And by the way how is the fact that americans are in Afghanistan and Iraq, helping the so called 'freedom' in America? Did Afghanistan take away their freedom? did Iraq? obviously not and they cant. I hope that people just dont listen to the media and fully take in what they say. Sadly nowadays if the media announces for example sea water is ok to drink, alot of people would beleive it

    February 6, 2010 at 12:24 am | Report abuse |
  32. Will Oregon

    Strange all the different views on Afghanistan, the comparison of Nato failures to Soviet Union failures, maybe most haven’t taken the time to read about the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, if you would have you would know how oppressive the soviets were on the Afgans, does anyone out there remember how that occupation went?? they weren’t there to liberate anyone, the Afgans were slaughtered by the Soviets, women, children, men, all slaughtered not because they were Pastun, Hazris, Turkmen, Baluch, Uzbecks or Nuristani if they didn’t follow and conform to the Communist ideal they were the enemy and slaughtered, how can anyone compare what we are doing to the Soviets?? In the former Soviet Union peoples that were religious were prosecuted for following their faith, that mentality of the Soviets in Afghanistan was a true description of a Jihad where all Muslims had a duty to purge Afghanistan of the Soviets!!!! A comment to Dark47, there were no Taliban in Afghanistan or Pakistan during the Soviet occupation or before their occupation, quick history lesson for you, during the Soviet occupation there were Madrassas set up throughout the north west frontier Of Pakistan by the fundamentalist Saudis, these schools taught a Wahhabism view of Islam, Mullah Omar started his movement with less than 50 armed madrassah students, known simply as the Taliban (Students)!!!! This was in 1994, before putting you thoughts in these post be smart read a book, also take a look at pre Soviet Afghanistan, not quite a lawless tribal area, it was a beautiful place before the Soviets took over, also those who complain about our troops being killed over there maybe you should sit down with some of our troops and their leaders they want to be there they want to help the Afgans our troops are caring and compassionate men and women, after all had we stayed to help rebuild Afghanistan after the Soviets left we wouldn’t be there today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    February 5, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
  33. End All U.S. Welfare to England

    What a waste.

    Make peace and get us out of the Middle East!

    February 5, 2010 at 3:28 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Jolly Roger

    For a long time I have considered both the Afghan and Iraqi operations futile. These people are tribal and controlled by religion to a degree that a westerner can hardly imagine. The systems are feudal, more akin to the middle ages in Europe, so no amount of democratization will bring them into modern times. When the allies go home—as they surely will—the time honored theocracy will resume and all will have been for naught. Not unlike Vietnam I might add.
    If our objective is to prevent terrorists attacking us, we should be using these massive and costly resources to hit them hard, hunting them down individually, (we know who the leaders are), and cutting their sources of funding, not ruining our own economies and sending our young men to their deaths, in countries which do not even want us there.

    February 5, 2010 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
  35. E. Russell

    woe is me...will we never learn?....its unwinnable..you cannot fight what you
    cannot "see"...obama should listen to putin....to Larry and the rest of you
    yahoos...there's nothing to win...the taliban will leave and come back..please
    read the russian archives available online..and you will learn something.
    get back to me in six months..and i guarantee we will still be sloggin around
    gettin nowhere..sadly..!

    February 5, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Stephen Fanelli

    The origin of all this? Not following the sound advice so graciously given us by the father of our country: Do not meddle in foreign affairs- namely our one-sided support of Isreal as they continue to oppress their Arab and Palestinian neighbors.

    February 5, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  37. Cody

    To fight an idea one must become an idea. For sake of being cliche, fight fire with fire. As for the Afghan government, we need a presence yes, but we need to have a light presence to ensure our own safety, as well as the right decisions being made. I doubt that we'll be out of the war by 2011 for the simple fact that we want to be there and it comes down to only one word, oil.

    February 5, 2010 at 2:09 pm | Report abuse |
  38. Harley Roy

    dark 47, never a truer word spoken!! I recently retired after over 46 years of uninterrupted service to the crown. Over 5 years "Up the sharp end" from Aden to the Oman. With all due respect to the muslem faith as my old Australian father used to say, Quote "you can't educate pork" !! In hindsight that's probably an insult to a pig's intelligence!!

    February 5, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Ziggy

    What kind of gun is the soldier holding in that picture? Thanks in advance!

    February 5, 2010 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Christian

    i dont think you guys should jump to conclusions. yes with military assistance from the U.K and other NATO powers a majior attack would shatter the region and possibly rid any majior amounts of Taliban forces from the area or could destroy the region all in one. looking back at what the russians did back in the cold war we are following the foot steps of history and i feel that either way no matter how many you kill there will always be a small amount the over time will grow no matter how many troops are there

    February 5, 2010 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  41. edward bloom

    edward bloom let you now that armed forices need to go back to home so they can see their familyies also big man in whaite house no longer want lost his men & i also my father was in armed forices go back he was young un tell he is that old to old enouth to retiered he was retired from 1976 iwas child time he is in service untell we moved way from perland texas , by edward bloom

    February 5, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  42. Daniel Boone

    The Taliban are not stupid and they will not confront the powerfull US and NATO forces head on, they will only take a few targets of oppertunity and wait the big assault out. The NATO forces will never be able to sort out the Taliban from the normal civilians and drug cartels. I agree NATO is only fighting an idea/the wind ,shadows and Phantoms.

    February 5, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  43. tooky

    mrav8tor – WOW. I agree with you completely and I have never thought about it this way. Instead of chemotherapy. We need exact brain surgery here.

    February 5, 2010 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
  44. mrav8tor

    Folks we are fighting this the wrong way!!! We are fighting this like a conventional war and there is nothing conventional about it.Our methods of killing these terrorist or insurgents is like using a gun to kill a fly...Send all these troops home !!!! We need to fight these people like we fought the russians...Cold War era. We have thousands of troops trying to kill dozens if not a few hundred terroist.Let give huge support to the CIA,FBI and any other intelligence agency and start fight with espionage and infutrating there rank and file.when we have good intelligence then we can send in a strike force or special ops to hit them hard..The Taliban are just hitting the allies with minimal force and running back into population.We will never win this war if we continue to fight like we are fighting a country in a conventional war instead of using our resources to fight a guerrilla warefare.Please lets stop using a hammer to kill a fly!!!!

    February 5, 2010 at 8:59 am | Report abuse |
  45. dark47

    Soviet Union was there for over 10 years, employing over 600,000 troops and loosing around 13,836 men over that time. At that time we (USA, UK, AUS) were "friends" of Taliban, now who knows could be just opposite thou Taliban is resisting as before. What we are trying to do over there? To bring democracy to Afghani nation, what a joke?!Or it is the pride of liberated nations (coalition) not to loose another war, as Iraq war was last at the time we step in there. How many young man we have to loose, 15 or 20K just to prove that we have done something more than Russians. When we leave Afghanistan and/or Iraq everything will be back to the same dot as it was before we "decided" to liberate some democratically poor but oil rich nations.

    ramram I agree with you thou I would say that we are fighting against someone's faith and/or belief and whatever we do (good and bad things) it will be against that idea and we will be hated just like Germans were hated by French in WWII regardless of German's "generosity" not to destroy Paris. They also call us the occupation troops, not liberating force as we used to call ourselves.

    February 5, 2010 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
  46. ramram

    The US & Uk are most likely setting themselves up for the biggest embarrassment in the history of warfare.. They are fighting an idea/the wind. How can they win?

    February 5, 2010 at 6:27 am | Report abuse |
  47. Ryan

    @MistaO and Larry

    Absolutely agree. They take this over plus the next 50k more troops will help fill in the gaps and cut of supplies. This will be over by 2011. Our intelligence is too vastly superior for them. All we need is the Afghan nation, people and government, to carry on this revolution. Once they see the light at the end of the tunnel, it will be too hard for the Taliban to gain foot.

    February 5, 2010 at 5:17 am | Report abuse |
  48. Cliff Vegas

    I disagree with A. Smith. Certainly it would have been much better had Bush/Cheney avoided the entanglements in Iraq and focused on Afghanistan. Obama's refocus has reinvigorated NATO – the goal isn't the outright defeat of the Taliban – all NATO has to do is discredit the insurgents and keep the leadership off balance. They seem to be accomplishing that task. As for Karazi – leave Afghan politics to the Afghani people.

    February 5, 2010 at 3:35 am | Report abuse |
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  50. OldDave

    Does Pakistan give a dog-doo snow cone about this?

    February 4, 2010 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
  51. AngleIron

    Why in the world would you publish a report that explains in a decent amount of detail, where the next NATO operation will take place??? Why don't you just drop leaflets, or broadcast on Al-Jazeera that the troops are coming. Makes no sense.

    February 4, 2010 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
  52. A. Smith, Oregon

    To little, and far to late. The Taliban simply move out of those areas, and then return after the troops have moved on. Its a waiting game for the Taliban. The moment America pulls out, all of the Afghanistan troops will once again pledge their total alligence to the Taliban and business as usual will return to Afghanistan.

    The clock is ticking on President Karzi's corrupt government.

    February 4, 2010 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
  53. MistaO


    I agree wholeheartedly! If the UK and our Commanders FINALLY get the goahead to fight this like a W-A-R, we will be out of there by 11!

    GO USA!!!

    February 4, 2010 at 6:57 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Larry

    If England & The United States keeps on going like this... This war will be over before 2011!!!

    February 4, 2010 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |