After Osama bin Laden was killed in May, the house where he was found was teeming with journalists and quite open. Now, the Pakistan Army surrounds the house with vegetation growing thick around it. Things have definitely changed.
CNN's Nick Paton Walsh travels to Abbotabad, Pakistan, to visit one of the few reminders of the architect of the September 11, 2011, attacks as the world is still asking – how did bin Laden live here so long?
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Who cares where this COWARD hid like the low life roach he is, he is now FISH FOOD in HELL.
My original intention aimed at your having posted here a year the same thing. I would consider that a waste of time. In the time you spend bashing/responding to others, you could actually be doing something productive. Consider this my last post in this subsection. Yes, I would agree ++.
I don't know who to debate with more: the hippie liberals who oppose our mission to Afghanistan; the crazy neocons and right-wingers who think they know they're saying but really don't; the radicals who believe that Allah wants them to blow up aircraft and buildings; or the idiots who just don't know anything.
Having read many of your quite cogent posts going back in time on this Afghan blog I would advise that you spare yourself the futility. No one will listen (we have LOTS of trolls) other than to refine their inevitable rebuttal or insult.
However as an exercise in framing your thoughts on the subject, continuing to post might be a very good way to continue to refine your thinking. If you look at posting here in that way, then posting here might be productive for you.
My observation is that no one here is willing to be informed, persuaded, or convinced of any view but their own.
That vaccine idea was interesting.
While Obama is playing his war games, US jobless calims rose to 414,000 against a still too optimistic expectation of 405,000 made by the analysts.
....so....mu-m-much.......idiocy....
A GOOD HOST SHOULD SAVE HIS GUEST AT ANY COST.
Where is Mo ?
OBL house could be turn into hotel. It will bring visitors,thrill seekers and money.
A tribute to 911 victims on Sept 11-2011........................Bomb Pakistan
Let's redirect this war and take it to the drug cartel big fishes, we already got Nemo... I think drugs are the true evil fuel in the world...
If the Pakistanis had any brains they'd demolish the place removing any evidence of its existence. Ripping out the foundation, plumbing, everything as if it never existed. It would remove the monument of embarrasment of the Pakistanis and allow the US and the rest of the world to get on with their lives.
I hear its going to be a bed and breakfast. Its going to be called, "The Obama Inn."
Now that wouldn't surprise me a bit since Barack Obama's such an egomaniac anyway. Besides, that'll be yet another way to glorify this obscene war!
Pacifism (or non-intervention) is just another foreign policy that must be evaluated along with any other choice. There are consequences to non-intervention as well as war. Among some of them would be that Afghanistan would still enslave women, have public beheadings (and stoning) of them and continue to train al Queda terrorists.
Uday or Qusay Hussein would now be in power in Iraq: hardly a palatable choice. BTW, both Repubs and Dems voted in favor (to fund) both wars. Barack Obama is continuing them, just like GWB.
Pacifism, like war has a cost. Often it is more war, and more bodies piled up.
sanjosemike
Ironically enough, Iraq would be far better off today had the U.S. not invaded that country back in 2003. All these current terrorist attacks started only after the 2003 invasion and the Kurds still don't have their much deserved homeland in the north. Now Iraq is no more than a U.S. satellite state similar to Poland after WW2 when the Russians were there.
and you have posted this (or variations of it) theme how many times now on the Afghan blog?
I heard Osama BL is touring the US in a Airstream with Elvis...they have a gig together someplace in Montana.
you are right and we all think so because he was a CIA character and had reached the climax. So he will now enjoy rest of his life for his hard services.
Bin Laden is burning in hell bangash and all who rejoice in him will follow as well as all Islamic radical terrorists which includes the Taliban who ruled with terror, torture and killings!
Yes, and Michele "Happy Birthday Elvis" Bachmann is the opening comedy act.
How would we know if he's dead? Many Americans, as well as other peoples around the world, wanted to verify the evidence. The goverment didn't mind us seeing people plummetting to their deaths off the trade towers, and you can probably still see Saddam Huseins hanging on the internet. I don't mind that some folks think it's sickening. Don't want to see...don't look. But the plain fact is, we don't believe our leaders word any more, just because they say something. Only the select few in the upper regions of society were allowed to see the photo's. BS! It just feeds the tin foil hat crowd. Why be afraid of the bad guys having a poor reaction. Bring it on. We've decimated their leadership, (so we are told at least), and more are welcome to join the club.
Why would a picture convince you? It's amazing what you can do in Photoshop these days. Publishing pictures would not convince anyone and would outrage some.
how would we know if 6 TC was really downed by "jet fuel" when it was never struck by a jet and video evidence and testimony by countless experts clearly support that it was brought down via a controlled demolition? Apparently somethings just dont need explanations or proof.
Its THE TRUTH, and this purpose served the bush policy of capturing asian OIL resources, poor yankees still think themselves they were attacked by Alqaeda...........
Give up the conspiracy theories. Obama was born in Hawaii and bin Ladin is dead. Maybe being dead is why there have been no new messages from bin Ladin in months.
I wonder which terrorist the Pakis are hiding in there now?
A more appropriate question paul, would be, what's the C.I.A. hiding there now? They don't call the C.I.A. the Masters of Deceit for nothing since that's what they do so well!
George W Bush and DICK Cheney??
It's quite dubious that the true Ussama bin Laden ever set foot in the above mentioned house since he most probably died of kidney failure some 8 or 9 years ago in the mountains on the Afghan Pakistani border. But since most people believe otherwise, the right-wing news media isquite happy as are the right-wing thugs in Washington!
Haven´t you seen Osama watching TV on the compound ???
Osama watching tv alone could be a falsification, but there are too many other indications that he was really killed in the compound. Not last the Pakistani military reaction, and the Taliban declaration.
Heard Bin Laden had a picture of John Boehner on his bedrood wall. Is that true?
If it is JOE, the C.I.A. most probably planted it there. Never put anything past the C.I.A., I say,.never!!!!!!
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I guess pak militray sucks nuts ... coudnt save there master osama .. next time they should hide terrorist under there womens black tents
pakies are mad cos how americans got in and got out without telling these losers ...
pakies can only biatch like gals ...just funny in there lil salwaars with tampons and women in there bed sheets
Wait what? lol
oye to phir agyaa .. chal bhag jaa ... kanjar ki aulad
How did Bin Laden live there so long ? The USA were aware of that location for more than 1 year, but they awaited to act for political reasons. They preferred to kill children in Afghanistan instead to take OBL.
Too bad we missed you. Kindly stand still next time a drone passes overhead.
There's no evidence US knew bin Laden was definitely there for over 1 year as you claim. Pakistan didn't know b/c they weren't looking for him & you can't find someone you're not looking for. Please don't just make up your own facts.
You lying piece of crap! Your going to follow bin Laden to hell because of your propaganda packed with lies! ALL TERRORISTS AND THEIR SYMPATHIZERS WILL HAVE THE SAME FATE AS BIN LADEN AND WILL BURN IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!
Derek – WRONG !! It is a well known fact that US administration was almost 100% sure that OBL was in that house at the moment of the raid, as they even noted by satellite a very tall men walking around the house. They had the information more than 1 year ago from a OBL courrier and from Mohammed Kahlid.
Correction : the information about OBL courrier was obtained by Khalid and phone intercepting.
I, for one, am pleased that President Obama had the courage and the strength to take the bold action necessary to... get the royal wedding out of the headlines.
The wedding was nice. The balcony kiss was perfectly-done. And who doesn't like getting a glimpse of a classic Austin Martin? But a week later and all we were getting from all news sources was still royal wedding! Something had to be done. To end this national suffering, the President had to use one of the most powerful cards in the deck; he had to finally authorize the capture/killing of Bin Laden. It was the only thing powerful enough counteract that wedding. And, thankfully, it worked.
Your theory is interesting. Obama awaited so long to counteract that disgusting wedding !! Possible.
Another theory is that he awaited to be closer to the election. Additionally even Bush demonstrated some unwillingness to capture OBL as he did not send reinforce in Tora Bora. They preferred to keep OBL alive as lomg as possible to mantein the tension and to use the war on terror for domination purpouse.
More spermicide!
Disney just purchased the property. They have plans for "Disney Wahabi", with rides, exhibits, and a nighlty fireworks show performed by former Navy Seals.
lmao!!
"CNN's Nick Paton Walsh travels to Abbotabad, Pakistan, to visit one of the few reminders of the architect of the September 11, 2011, attacks as the world is still asking – how did bin Laden live here so long?"
I'm quite certain it was 2001 and not 2011.
Oh, pleeeeeease....he was a monster..................................
but then again, you ARE a supporter. What else can we expect.
We were expecting this drivel. You scored with your nonsense once again. Oh, SO tiresomely predictable. And try not to use any logic or rational thought before you post. Just dump......like the winner you are. And Allah forbid....NEVER check word usage or use spell check.
You are a walking logical fallacy. You have a PROBLEM with spelling words correctly......? You are USING language to post.......well, BARELY using language.......
even if you got your way (whatever that would be, though we can guess) you'd still be miserable and continue to spew hatred.
trying to penetrate your personal fog of war is pointless. you LIKE to make inflammatory, ugly, statements just to spread misery. another ugly face of islam. if islamists want help and support, you are sabotaging that with every "word" you carefully miss spell and miss use. you repel everyone.
sign off.
a weird reply though predictable.
Spelling? Grammar? Language use so that you may post effective ideas here?
What the he!! is wrong with that???
More accurately, what the he!! is wrong with YOU?? You are not only mentally ill you are tedious and ineffective.
you are hilarious in a morbid kind of way.
why are posts out of sequence and replies not attached to the right comment? this is a "reply" to M.
Too many replies are placed as free standing comments rather than as the replies they actually are.
and some replies have had the "parent: comment deleted by the blog monitors making the thread show less and less sense.
And he will never return to that house! Not a place of fear. Place of cowardice and h.u.m.i.l.i.a.t.i.o.n if it happened. And defeat. And he even denied involvement in the attacks short after they happened before accepting involvemente. Historic place for reasons other than your own. But of course you will trophy his death.
He will stay in the center of the earth until the reign of Jesus is over. Then we will see what kind of fight this coward has.
do you twits know how to spell it correctly? you might get a bit more cred (not much) if you spelled your words right.
YOUR way simply makes you look foolish and uneducated. Oh, I forgot....if you can recite verses from the koran you can pretend to be "educated." take pride in what little you can.
hore? house ? use spell check you bafoon 1
Dead, totally, profoundly WRONG.
You make my points so well................
if you scroll below the foolish video clip you will see this blathering idiot objecting to spell check and proper word usage yet it preaches its private "language" lesson to us all.
There is a logical fallacy here.
Can anyone identify it? Might be fun in a "hindered" (hun) kind of way........
obviously you don't get irony or satire.
"I do not think that word means what you think it means."
"'Ello, my name is Enigo Montoya, you killed my father. Prepare to die, you six fingered mutant."
In your dreams goat lover
and India bears on this........how?
well.....THAT certainly clarified it..............
Thank you! and Hear! Hear!
Hello Mohammad. How am I ignorant? You are a Paki who probably hates Hindus. Why do you use Hindu hindu hindu magi magi magi in every post? Then say only non-ignorant (which you cannot claim to be) people will understand and comprehend that.
You're full of it. Your stupid made up wordplay is irritating and is denial itself. You just support anything you say with another rule you make up, based on some stupid letter play. Look up how the word logic came to be in English. There is a word for something you need to stop bs-ing: ETYMOLOGY (wiktionary). But seeing as you love to hate, I doubt you will. And I bet any Hindu I meet will be able to explain anything to me much better than you can. And your utter garbage about how every language comes from Latin? And LA in Latin? Give it a break. Go look at the origins of your Arabic (AFRICA). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_%28etymology%29. Nowhere from Latin. Your insecurity leads you to find new paths to reinforce your beliefs (you think al-la the LA, the law, but that is all B--S! You know Islam is a RELIGION. You are denying it. They kiss and pray towards a #$#$ing stone. A stone that has been rebuilt, and re-branded. Allah means sole deity. You BELIEVE it is LA – meaning law. Look up law in wiktionary while you are at it.
Thank you Jama, yet again! Well put!
The Black Stone (called الحجر الأسود al-Hajr al-Aswad in Arabic) is a Muslim relic, which according to Islamic tradition dates back to the time of Adam and Eve. Historical research claims that the Black Stone marked the Kaaba as a place of worship during pre-Islamic pagan times.
It is the eastern cornerstone of the Kaaba, the ancient stone building towards which Muslims pray, in the center of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. The Stone is a dark rock, polished smooth by the hands of millions of pilgrims, that has been broken into a number of fragments cemented into a silver frame in the side of the Kaaba. Although it has often been described as a meteorite, this hypothesis is still under consideration.
Muslim pilgrims circle the Kaaba as part of the Tawaf ritual of the Hajj. Many of them try, if possible, to stop and kiss the Black Stone, emulating the kiss that Islamic tradition records that it received from the Islamic Prophet Muhammad. If they cannot reach it, they point to it on each of their seven circuits around the Kaaba.
Etymology of the word "Allah:"
The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- "the" and ʾilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" (ὁ θεὸς μόνος, ho theos monos). Cognates of the name "Allāh" exist in other Semitic languages, including Hebrew and Aramaic. Biblical Hebrew mostly uses the plural form (but functional singular) Elohim. The corresponding Aramaic form is ʼĔlāhā ܐܠܗܐ in Biblical Aramaic and ʼAlâhâ ܐܲܠܵܗܵܐ in Syriac as used by the Assyrian Church, both meaning simply "God".
Latin and Arabic belong to two different language families.
Latin is an Indo-European language, a member of a language family that most scholars believe originated in northwestern Asia perhaps as early as 5000 B. C. More specifically, it belonged to the Italic branch of that family and was more closely related to the Celtic branch than to any other, although it also had quite a few similarities with Greek.
The various branches of Indo-European were evidently carried into most of Europe and much of Asia by migrating tribes thousands of years ago, and each developed along its own lines and broke down into various related languages. Latin, in particular, was spoken over much of Europe when the Roman Empire was at its greatest; then as the Empire crumbled, its different regions lost contact with one another, and the Latin of those different areas developed in different directions into the various Romance languages. Those languages also drew on the languages spoken by the native peoples of their regions and then on the languages of the invading barbarians.
Arabic belongs to the Semitic language family, which also includes Hebrew, Aramaic, and some languages spoken as far south as Ethiopia and Kenya. The earliest known Semitic language is Akkadian, which was spoken in Mesopotamia around 3000 B. C. Some linguists hold the theory that, ages ago, this family and the Indo-European family had a common origin, the similarities are VERY faint to anyone but a specialist in that field.
Mohhamad, don't call me that when you have the Hind surname Dar.
No doubt the Native American languages can bear similarities to Latin. Native Americans crossed into North America, from Asia. ASIA! Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, Amharic, etc. are all Semitic languages, dating back to Egypt. However, Mohd Dar, Latin, Sanskrit, Persian, Avestan, Chinese (not very related) and so on are Asiatic languages. There are loan words intermixed, but are different families. Writing styles are similar, all from Phoenicia, with a probability that Sanskrit's writing system came from there as well. Semetic languages sound much different from Asiatic languages. There were languages before Latin. You can look in many books, or even online. Also historical texts follow in agreement. Hindi might sound like arabic because of all the loan words. A quick look at wiktionary tells me that words entered Hindi from Arabic, through Persian, into Hindi, since Arabic forced its way into Persian. Again, a very useful site called Wiktionary, can be explored. Plus many, many books from a library.
You posted an article about dardic people. Have you read the whole thing? It comes to different ideas about who dards could be, especially under the Greek and Roman, and Kashmiri sections. Okay. First, you cannot come to the conclusion that all languages came from Latin, just by looking at words, Mr. Dar. There are necessities, such as knowledge of chronology, which you are totally ignoring. Second, if you did that with Russian, good for you. I cannot trust that you did so just because you told me, but to what extent can you do so? More complex words? Also, it may prove beneficial to look at Russian's language tree. It is related to Latin, and in many cases has words that sound just like Latin. I will give a clearer explanation as to what I said earlier (in fact, your article references something I talked about).
Latin, Slavic languages, Sanskrit, Persian, belong to a Proto-Indo-European group.
Hebrew, Akkadian, Amharic, Aramaic, Arabic, all belong to a Semetic group, thought to have its early roots in Africa.
There are extremely faint similarities, but not what you talk about. Semetic words are formed through trilateral roots. Take Arabic. The easiest example is k-t-b (K-t-b in Hebrew). Kitab, katib, and many others come from this.
Latin and the other languages work a different way. They take words from a proto language, which were basic, and use them as roots, prefixes, and suffixes. There are no trilateral roots, and a words meaning can change simple by the addition of a affix rather than a modification of the vowels or anything within or sometimes outside the Semetic root.
The Latin word libre, book, is totally different. This is why I don't believe in your Latin origin theory. I will not say that the Semetic and P I E languages are not related, because that is beyond my grasp. The scientific method may have minor flaws, as you somewhat incorrectly point out, but that doesn't mean it hasn't proved up to be useful. Look what technology we have. It is slightly akin to educated trial and error, however not so directly, since it is usually formed on some sort of a basis. And look what we have been able to do.
Jama, we tried but this foolish troll is devoted to his position and will not hear of modifying it for the sake of clarity and truth. You might as well debate with him "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"
Reason (logic) and truth should not be mutually exclusive.
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Denial of truth? It's a belief system. As is Islam, Christianity and Judaism. As well as the Egyptian religion, and tribal religions. They are belief systems, perhaps not fully understood. For example, many religious people do not believe in evolution, and they will reject the proof and evidence, when it falls in line with evidence they will rely on in hospitals. Also you draw many conclusions based on your own work, when at points it contradicts with certain chronological grounds, or lacks such a thing. This so called system you object, applied to what I mentioned earlier has held useful, and has proved itself, yes, among certain problems. -–
My original intention aimed at your having posted here a year the same thing. I would consider that a waste of time. In the time you spend bashing/responding to others, you could actually be doing something productive. Consider this my last post in this subsection. Yes, I would agree ++.
You clearly haven't seen Tom and Jerry.