Eyewitnesses to Kabul explosions

Explosions and heavy automatic gunfire were heard hours after five well-armed suicide bombers attacked the British Council in Kabul on Friday, leaving at least eight people dead, officials said.

Two iReporters were in Kabul and captured the seconds after the explosions and what it was like in the hours that followed:

"It was 5:40 when a very strong explosion shook my house and woke me up," said iReporter Nazir Ekhlass. "The first thing that came to my mind was 'may[be] it's a rocket that hit very close to my house.'"

Ekhlass, 23, went up to his roof to immediately take the photos above. "The Taliban claimed credit for the attack," he said. "and the reason they say was 'we have defeated Britain in 1919, this attack is to refresh the defeat.'"

For iReporter Joseph Andrew Grosso, 30, the blasts hit close to home. He lives about two blocks away from the British Council. "I woke up with the first blast ringing in my ears and our whole house shaking," he wrote in his iReport.

"[I ran] to the rooftop with my friends and my camera, tousled headed but instantly awake," the New York native said. "We watched the rest of the attack all day."


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  1. @@

    was curious to see how long it would take this twit would post his mindless little videos. here we go again.......

    sign off

    August 24, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eknath

      me too.

      gone.

      August 24, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bud Tree Jr.

        Me too. I keep complianing to CNN over this but to no avail. After all, we're supposed to be discussing Afghanistan.

        August 24, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Eknath

    to our trolls: you do your cause and "faith" no favors by the exhibition and publication of your hate filled rants. You are the face of islam to the rest of us.

    Is this is the kind of "reason" and intelligence islam produces? Your thoughts as expressed by your poorly written (and frequently miss spelled) words are horrifying, brutal, cruel, and without any redeeming qualities.

    If there are enlightened, reasonable, and intelligent moslems who (we can only hope) are the actual majority, they need to speak up. Their collective silence is deafening.

    August 22, 2011 at 7:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eknath

      Thank you, yet again, for making my point in spectacular, flamboyant style. (what a rut you are in.........)

      August 22, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
    • Eknath

      do you even know who I am?

      August 22, 2011 at 8:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        We don't care who you are, Eknath, your stupid post is enough to define yourself.

        August 23, 2011 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        What's so stupid, stupid? Can;t you see it's the truth? Oh I guess your deaf, DUMB and blind.

        August 23, 2011 at 5:17 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        These invectives against Islam are ignorant and stupid. The topic is about a blast occurred against UK (and US) occupation of Afghanistan.

        August 23, 2011 at 8:20 am | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        We do not occupy Afghanistan stupid! We are there helping to build a government with an army and police force to battle any insurgents who want Taliban rule again. As you can see many do not want the religious fanatics in power to terrorize them any longer which they continue to do!

        August 23, 2011 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
      • Eknath

        Had you read with any perception you would see that my post was NOT "an invective against islam," but rather a request that those who profess islam examine the tone and content of their posts and try to really communicate with others. An unending train of insults is not communication (as you well know).

        August 23, 2011 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Eknath – When I say that Dan is an imbecile it is not an insult, but a technical termo to stigmatize his inability to understand the reality. He is an imbecile unable to see that USA is an occupation force in Afghanistan killing civilians.

        August 23, 2011 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        Hey IDIOT, how are we occupiers? Do we force are rule over them?

        August 23, 2011 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        not are but our rule

        August 23, 2011 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Hinduism was a valuable tradition originally, as reported by Veda and Upanishad, unfortunately today is twisted and overlooked by the majority of Hindus. I think every orthodox tradition if correctly understood could dialogate with Islam.

        August 23, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        How can you have a dialogue with a people that only wants power and control over people?

        August 23, 2011 at 3:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        DAN – american politicians negotiated very well with the most radical and rigid part of Islam, the wahabi of Saudi Arabia. The basis for negotiation is the oil. Afghans want USA out of the country and have the right to kill all the intruders.

        August 23, 2011 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Eknath

        salamee – for once I sympathize with you. You won't penetrate the fog of bigotry and racism in Yankee's limited world. Good luck with that! I wish you well there.

        August 23, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        Salamee, good name for a converted Italian Muslim. It's too bad he has to be so foolish. We never had to negotiate with the Saudi's. It's not like we were at war with them. Sure there are oil deals, but not with the government, with oil companies. The two governments are allied with each other against terrorism! It's not like we had to negotiate to become allies DUH? And again if all afghans did not want us there we would not have spent all the blood, sweat, tears and money to HELP them!

        August 23, 2011 at 6:39 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        Boy are you a nutcase trying to blame all of the world's problems and it's evolving on the western world. Tell ME please, how would the world look if you were to control it? It's OK if you don't, because we will see in the Great Tribulation!

        August 23, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • @@

        You are trying to justify genocide. What a guy!

        August 23, 2011 at 10:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • @@

        we all know he is not suggesting "politics" to get rid of his boogyman hindus, he's talking murder.

        August 24, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
      • @@

        well, if yankee is pretending to "communicate" he needs to clarify his meanings and quite talking in his mystery lingo. It is off-putting and makes him look foolish. You, at least, are trying to actually communicate. Thank you.

        August 24, 2011 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        Did not the Taliban enforce sharia law with violence? They had killed many who were opposed to their way of rule. Did they not think that they were and are God's police, judges and executioners?

        August 24, 2011 at 11:44 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Taliban did that in THEIR country and their enemies were also muslims, using sharia law to gain power as they were mostly corrupt.

        August 24, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • @@

        well, whatever you do, don't learn how to spell, and continue to insult others whose spelling you might question. no cred. deal with it.

        August 24, 2011 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        How is it their country? Is it not for all afghans? And if you say they were mostly corrupt then how can you defend them?

        August 24, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – Taliban are not corrupt. I said their enemy were mostly corrupt. The violence is endemic in muslim countries, as after the end of colonialism corrupt military leaderships cought power. All these leaders like Ghaddafi, Assad, Saddam, Mubaraq can be overthrown only by bloodly revolutions or targeted killing, like Al Qaeda planned to do before USA started the war against them protecting the dictatorships.

        August 24, 2011 at 2:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        For your information al Qaeda declared war on the U.S. and how do you know what al Qaeda had planned to do? Are you some close confidant of al Qaeda or what? As for the Taliban and every fundamentalist Muslim, they are far from God and His way of life for mankind!

        August 24, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ganesha Boulevard

        The tiny "t's" define corruption and cruelty. they are foul with it.

        August 24, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I know what AlQaeda planned to do as I read the press. It is broadly known that USA arrested 4 AQ members in Albany planning to kill Mubaraq.

        August 24, 2011 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  3. @@

    One things these blogs illustrate time and time again is how we do not listen to each other. These threads are a microcosm for the larger world and how problems develop and worsen.............an utter lack of the skill, ability, or desire to listen to the other view. Rather, we see these juvenile pout, prance, and insult games go on and on.

    This post will be ridiculed by the pouters and bigots who seem to think they own these threads. Wish we'd get a real response from the moderators as to why they allow the cruelties here. These blog threads are supposed to be a forum for intelligent discussion but that rarely (never, really) happens.

    August 22, 2011 at 5:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • @@

      (See what I mean.....?)

      Your point....if there is one (other than tossing out your mandatory insults)?

      August 22, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The point is clear: correct yourself before blaming others.

        August 23, 2011 at 1:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Eknath

        I am not "blaming others." You are a master of twisting and manipulation.

        August 23, 2011 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Eknath – my post was not directed to you, but to @@ explaining what he did not understand properly.

        August 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
  4. God

    Learn to love an share despite your differences.

    August 22, 2011 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
  5. Jimmy Cracks Capricorns

    Judaism + Christianity +Isalm = Axis of Evil Against the Soul of Mankind

    It's a very siomple math you just have to open your eyes to the equation !!

    August 22, 2011 at 2:57 am | Report abuse |
    • American Soldier

      No Jimmy, the true Axis of Evil against the Soul of Mankind is the U.S. and it's NATO allies as seen today by their brutal takeover of Libya by proxy!!!

      August 22, 2011 at 8:51 am | Report abuse |
  6. pamiri

    Dear Laila you are right, Taliban is the most wild animals and the are serving for PK and other extremists and they are the killers of innocent people in AFG and in all the worls by Alqaeda,

    from Kabul
    Regards

    August 22, 2011 at 12:05 am | Report abuse |
    • American Soldier

      Come on pamiri, we're all getting a little sick and tired of reading you right-wing BS on this web page since there's not a word of truth in it anyway! Give it a rest, will you???

      August 22, 2011 at 8:54 am | Report abuse |
  7. pamiri

    ]Its UK that more than then Sudia Arabia supports Taliban and in one or the other way, and I think this explosion was desgned by british and Taliban, because some days before the Top commander of Taliban Mullah Zahef was invited to the British embassy!!! and then the event happened and we know that the British is note honest in fighting against Talibana nd terrorisms,

    regards
    From Kabul

    August 22, 2011 at 12:01 am | Report abuse |
  8. Pray this Prayer

    The ILLUMINATION OF
    CONSCIENCE predicted by O u r L a d y in Garabandal in 1961 will take place soon to
    save the world.

    The Warning is taking place to:

    1. Prove to all that God exists.
    2 Bring everyone to J e s u s and the Way of Truth.
    3. To help save us before the final day of judgement by giving us a chance to ask for
    forgiveness for the sins we have committed.

    What will Happen?

    TWO COMETS WILL
    COLLIDE IN THE SKY.

    The sky will turn red, it will look like fire & then you will see a large cross in the sky to
    prepare you.

    Everyone over the age of 7 will experience a mystical encounter with J e s u s C h r i s t which will last
    anything up to 15 minutes.

    Pray this prayer to be prepared: Oh my precious J e s u s,embrace me in your arms and allow my head to rest upon your shoulders so that you can raise me up to your glorious kingdom when the time is right. Allow your precious blood to flow over my heart that we can be united as one.

    August 21, 2011 at 8:09 am | Report abuse |
  9. Pray this Prayer

    The ILLUMINATION OF
    CONSCIENCE predicted by Our Lady in Garabandal in 1961 will take place soon to
    save the world.

    The Warning is taking place to:

    1. Prove to all that God exists.
    2 Bring everyone to Jesus and the Way of Truth.
    3. To help save us before the final day of judgement by giving us a chance to ask for
    forgiveness for the sins we have committed.

    What will Happen?

    TWO COMETS WILL
    COLLIDE IN THE SKY.

    The sky will turn red, it will look like fire & then you will see a large cross in the sky to
    prepare you.

    Everyone over the age of 7 will experience a mystical encounter with Jesus Christ which will last
    anything up to 15 minutes.

    Pray this prayer to be prepared: Oh my precious Jesus,embrace me in your arms and allow my head to rest upon your shoulders so that you can raise me up to your glorious kingdom when the time is right. Allow your precious blood to flow over my heart that we can be united as one.

    August 20, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  10. George Patton

    I noticed that the British Prime Minister David Cameron called today's attacks in Kabul "cowardly" but then again, what can be more "cowardly" than the use of those ungodly drones, hurling 500lb. bombs on defenseless people in the Afghan countryside? Moreover, what about the filthy creeps who operate them, sitting behind their desks in an air conditioned office right here in the good ol' U.S of.A.?!?!?!

    August 19, 2011 at 4:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • Clinton

      lol... Another comment from an idiot that's never been to War let alone Afghanistan.... Shut your mouth about things you know nothing about... Those Terrorists weren't exactly harmless on 9/11 now were they? you friggin moron... your parents shouldn't let you get on the internet... and let this be a lesson to mothers.... don't use crack... your kid will be as ignorant as this guy.

      August 19, 2011 at 5:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Detroit, MI

      Very well said, George. And don't let this uneducated lemming Clinton here get to you. In fact, I wonder if this jerk is any relation to Hilary Clinton who already disgraces this country by representing it overseas with her arrogance and self-righteousness!!!

      August 19, 2011 at 7:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Andrew Lubin

        I totally agree, Dan. George pretty well nailed it above when he talked about those cursed drones and their most cowardly operators sitting behind their desks in their air conditioned offices here in America killing thousands of people needlessly. These bozoes need to be apprehended and taken to a war crimes tribunal and prosecuted to the fullest extent of international law for their very crimes against humanity!

        August 20, 2011 at 8:28 am | Report abuse |
      • GOD

        THESE PEOPLE TEACH THEIR CHILDREN TO HATE YOU AMERICANS AND BECOME JIHADISTS FOR allah!

        August 20, 2011 at 1:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Really???

      I think killing 15 year old high school kids who were sightseeing on 911, & a 8 1/2 month pregnant woman due for maternity leave the next week at the twin towers is worse. The drones are not DELIBERATELY TARGETING 3,000 CIVILIANS. Keep listening to the enemy propaganda though. Maybe they will let you serve them in a menial capacity, after they suicide bomb the world into following their orders.

      August 20, 2011 at 7:10 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Even OBL did not target deliberately those kids and pregnant woman. He targeted military structures (pentagon) and strategic Center of comand and control (Twin Towers). They were legitimate targets under US own definition, but it is not OBL faults if the enemy was hiding behind women and children .

        August 20, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      George Patton – Very true. There is no comparison betwen a drone operation and a suicide bomber. The latter is a litlle more risky and requires more courage.

      August 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • melvinslizard

      George Patton (I'm sure his corpse just sh1t itself knowing that you're using his name like this...)
      You're right. Let's send your children to do the "boots on the ground" work. So much better to spill your children's blood than use some "creepy" drone. Get a grip on reality.

      August 22, 2011 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  11. ronvan

    I have said it before and I will say it again! We need to get out of these 2 bit countries! The ONLY threat here is themselves. It is in their history and blood! They will kill each other off!

    August 19, 2011 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  12. salerno

    This blast was a celebration for the anniversary of Afghanistan infdependece from the UK. The New Zeland soldier killed should not be there.

    August 19, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  13. IndyJim

    Remember the good old days when the Taliban would simply execute woman in soccer stadiums, the locals forced to enter and watch, all because she failed to wear the veil. Or little girls having acid thrown into their faces for going to school, or blowing up thousand year old statutes. Those were the dayssssssss. Thanks Edith.

    August 19, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Greg

    British Counsel, not Council.

    August 19, 2011 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  15. JOE

    Salerno

    I agree with part of your assessment where you said some of the violence is cause by our military invasions. But as far as colonialism, I'm not sure. For example, when the extremists attack US interests, they usually announce that the attacks were in retaliation for our foreign policies. But when they attack their own people such as the case at this Mosque, they usually say what group was responsible for the attacks but they never really seem to state the reason for the attacks. They seldom do. And how is their government going to start addressing their demands or concerns if they never state what they are? Or do they just carryout these acts of violence for the fun of it? I'm still confused.

    August 19, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Muslim leadership was better before colonialism. For istance in Egypt a good leadership lasted until early 1900, but when the British retired they left disorder and pent up violence on the road. Islamic radicalization started in late 1700 and enhanced last century as consequence. Especially the British were responsible, but even the France in Syria and Algeria, or Italy in Libya and Ethiopia.

      August 19, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • melvinslizard

      How does our military invasion of Afghanistan justify blowing up a house of worship in Pakistan? That logic doesn't work in the real world.

      August 22, 2011 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Because in that house there was a target, some US allie for sure.

        August 22, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  16. JOE

    I just don't understand the Muslim or Islamic world at all. Every so often, the Pakistan government accuses the US of drone strikes that inadvertently kill Pakistanian civilians. That is of course sad and unfortunate but yet, each month of every year, religious fanatics in the Muslim and Islamic world keep carryingout these hanous and outrageous attacks in places of worship, killing innocent civilians while they pray. Sme body please explain? First the Muslin world accuses the West of a double foreign policy that favors Israel and they say that the terrorist attacks they carryout is justification for these oppressive policies. But when you murder your own people in cold blood, who do you also blame the West for these acts of violence?

    So why can't these governments bring all the different factions together and try to iron out their differences and try to learn what is really ailing them? And then try to come to some sort of compromise to alleviate all these senseless killings? Or perhaps I'm just optimistic or plain stupid. Then how do you curb these acts of violence in the Muslim world? This bothers me because all killings whether against Westerners or against Muslims are outrageous and unacceptable. So what can the Muslim world really do to stop these senseless killings? Please explain.

    August 19, 2011 at 1:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Part of the violence is caused by the US invasion. You can see Iraq Afghanistan and Libya. Another part of violence is caused by the changed Muslim leadership as consequence of the colonialism. The remaining part of violence is endemic.
      If the west would stop interferring with middle east leadership it would be better. In fact any war enhances the vioence creating disorders and criminal gangs fighting for power.

      August 19, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • Ben

        Interesting. So before the US invaded, the Tliban was a peacful movement, right? And Al Qaeda did not exist, right? Violence begets violence is a classic liberal model. How naive. it's equivalent to saying police work begets more crime. Somehow, Mr. Salerno, you got cause and effect mixed up. Violence is not the result of colonialism (how long would the left keep blaming the 19th century?), nor the invasion. It is the result of the Taliban trying to re-seize power. it is a simple political weapon inspired and fuled by religious pretence.

        August 19, 2011 at 2:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Ben – you are confusing cause with effect. All the leadership (even if sometimes bad) manteined order in their countries: Saddam, Ghaddafi, Taliban. In all those 3 cases US attacks caused more violence even after the war ended.

        August 19, 2011 at 4:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • D. A. N.

        Yea, Like Assad keeping order, the Muslims have been fighting and killing for power since Islam began and they will never stop!

        August 19, 2011 at 6:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        It is not an american problem anyway.

        August 21, 2011 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
    • AntiChina

      JOe, i would like to reply you about this what you said, When somebody wants to dump you out of your house, what would you do? will you protect your family or stay like an idiot?
      second thing: most of those peoples who does suicide bombing, is because they lost all the family, he has nothing to loose, and he is burned emotionally head to toe, so his revenge is to do the same thing to israeli citizen.
      third: israeli attacks gaza with rockets, and when you see some innocent died which didn't had to do nothing with the war, a dad or a teenage son who lost his family burned in front of their eyes, what he would do? let it go? no he won't, because he will do the same thing to an israeli family,
      NOTE: Real Muslim without personal issues, will never go do suicide bombing , its against religion. and those who does have no reason to live..
      ..
      And this routing keep going on and on.. the only solution is.. The UN to make the country independent and to tell in their faces, You as Israeli no rights to attack the country, you as Afghanistani no rights to attack .. Big fines will be. Country will pay the Fines and consequences. and let's see how the Countries will make strict rules to citizen.
      put some Soldiers there between the borders, for a while for stabilizing the situation till they get used to it, and problem solved...

      August 19, 2011 at 5:30 pm | Report abuse |
  17. JOE

    So what is the mission in Afghanistan? O' yes it was president Obama who had to define the mission in Afghanistan some ten years later when he authorized our brave Navy Seals to take out OBL. And what is the end game in Afghanistan? O' yea, it was president Obama who had to also define the end game in Afghanistan some ten years later by setting a deadline for troop withdrawal from that country. And did I mention that our troops are coming home from Iraq too? Yea, Obama's foreign policy is sure flawed and ineffective. Imagine that!

    August 19, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
  18. D. A. N.

    NO IDIOT, WHAT WILL GOD DO TO THESE SUICIDE BOMBERS? DO YOU THINK HE WILL PLEASED WITH THEM FOR KILLING 8 MEN AND THEMSELVES? IS IT BETTER TO KILL GOD'S CREATION(which would have included them)OR HELP THEM IN SOME MANNER or are you all just maniac killers that love death?!!!? We are not occupiers, we have stated that we will leave, but will kill one another anyhow!

    August 19, 2011 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  19. D. A. N.

    So stupid answer the question, will GOD be happy with these kind of people?

    August 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
  20. D. A. N.

    Does your truth 360* allow you to kill anyone and everyone who does not share your belief?

    August 20, 2011 at 7:34 am | Report abuse |
  21. D. A. N.

    You people have been killing one another going on two century's now and you TELL ME your god would want his people to kill and destroy rather than live and build?

    August 19, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  22. NFLdave

    Lol, your parents must not have had any kids that lived.

    August 19, 2011 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  23. laila

    if ur not an afghan who didn't live under the taliban rules then please shut ur mouth and don't defend them.

    August 20, 2011 at 12:26 am | Report abuse |
  24. D. A. N.

    He's got nothing to say, just like my post at the bottom. He talks about desire well his desire is death. So it shall be!

    August 20, 2011 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Really???

    Sorry, that number was supposed to be 3,000.

    August 20, 2011 at 7:00 am | Report abuse |
  26. salerno

    The war against Afghanistan was started by Clinton when he bombed the country. 9/11 was a normal reaction.

    August 20, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
  27. ~

    Has as much substance as your hindu twaddle and insults and LA 360 nonsense. Fair is fair....if you can consistently post garbage so can others.

    btw I bet you could not be kind, compassionate, tactful and gentle even if your life depended on it.

    (now watch the predictable (and laughable) insults. this troll thinks that his pronouncements and announcements pass for communication. what a loser.)

    August 20, 2011 at 8:39 pm | Report abuse |
  28. D. A. N.

    Before Jesus, how was there salvation for anyone because all have sinned? Does God want man to kill man because of sin?

    August 21, 2011 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
  29. D. A. N.

    JESUS WAS NOT SENT TO GIVE A MESSAGE OF THE COMING OF A FALSE PROPHET! WHY WOULD THE HOLY SPIRIT ITSELF NEED TO SEND ANOTHER MESSENGER OF TRUTH WHEN HE SAID HE WAS THE WAY FOR SALVATION WHICH ISAIAH HAD PROPHECIES ABOUT?

    August 21, 2011 at 8:42 pm | Report abuse |
  30. salerno

    DAN- FAITH IS NOT ENOUGH TO RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT. THIS IS JUST THE LUTERAN HERESY.

    August 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
  31. D. A. N.

    Oh no? Why then when Abraham was putting his only child on the alter as a sacrifice to God even though through him Abraham was promised that his descendants would be numbered like the stars in heaven and the sand on the seashore? And that they would reside in the Holy land? This was all given to him because of his faith!

    August 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm | Report abuse |
  32. salerno

    Dan – Abraham could not go to heaven under christian doctrine as he did not know Jesus.

    August 24, 2011 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  33. D. A. N.

    Tell ME then how do you receive the Holy Spirit? Traditions?

    August 24, 2011 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  34. salerno

    Dan – Under christian orthodox doctrine the holy spirit is received through the sacrament of Communion after the baptism.
    Luteran heresy believe that the faith is enough, but it is the biggest heresy possible as every religion or tradition in any place and in any time requires RITUALS. Luter was not a prophet and had no authority to abrogate christian rituals.

    August 24, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
  35. D. A. N.

    So your telling me that under the Christian faith no one went to heaven before Christ? You do not know God, His Son or the Christian faith! Read John 8:58!

    August 24, 2011 at 2:39 pm | Report abuse |
  36. D. A. N.

    NO! You mean under Catholic doctrine!

    August 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  37. salerno

    Not just catholic, even greek and russian orthodox. There are no other christians, a part few minorities in muslim countries like the copti and the armeni. John 8-58 reports the Jesus told to be before Abrahm, but he did not say if Abrahm was in the heaven. Anyway in this case I agree with you as I think Catholics and Orthodox are wrong, but protestants are not real christians, they are heretics even if in this particular case may be more correct.

    August 24, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  38. D. A. N.

    He'll be ground to dust alright, right to the center of the earth!

    August 21, 2011 at 1:32 am | Report abuse |
  39. Rednecksareterrorists

    Don't confuse West sponsor Wahabis with Islam. Wahabi Cult are from Saudi Arabia, they treat their woman badly not based on Faith but on their culture.
    Saudis are armed with the best US weapons so they can repress anyone who complains or even ask for moderation. The Extremist are Wahabi trained 99.9%, pressure your senators to stop this repression.

    August 21, 2011 at 2:21 am | Report abuse |
  40. D. A. N.

    No salerno CLINTON bombed the enemy given safe haven in Afghanistan, who said al Qaeda was at war with the US and had attacked US embassies in Africa and the USS Cole off Yemen. The mistake Clinton made was that he didn't invade Afghanistan and get bin Laden and the Taliban before 9/11.

    August 21, 2011 at 5:02 am | Report abuse |
  41. D. A. N.

    No salerno CLINTON bombed the enemy that was given safe haven in Afghanistan, who said al Qaeda was at war with the US and had attacked US embassies in Africa and the USS Cole off Yemen. The mistake Clinton made was that he didn't invade Afghanistan and get bin Laden and the Taliban before 9/11. Those attacks were unprovoked and acts of war! We should have started this war on terror in the 90's!

    August 21, 2011 at 5:13 am | Report abuse |
  42. salerno

    Dan – you are wrong. The attack on US embassy was planned in Sudan and was a reaction as the US arrested 4 AQ members in Albany, interferring in the middle east politic to protect Israel and his treaty with Mubaraq.

    August 21, 2011 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
  43. salerno

    Bin Laden reacted to american aggression against him ansd against other Al Qaeda members. 9/11 was a reaction and OBL even warned US about the attack. but the idiot did not take him seriously and paid the consequences.

    August 21, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
  44. D. A. N.

    salerno how do you wake up in the morning and look at yourself in the mirror? YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR! YOU NOW SAY THAT AT LEAST BIN LADEN WENT AFTER COMMAND AND CONTROL AND THAT BIN LADEN WARNED THE US OF THE ATTACK, BUT YOU SAY IT WAS PLANNED BY SAUDI'S IN GERMANY! YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAP AND I WOULD NOT BELIEVE A WORD YOU SAY!

    August 23, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  45. salerno

    Dan – The attack was planned (by details) in Germany, but Bin Laden (not the Taliban) was involved to some extent.
    The highjackers came from Germany and were saudis or egyptians.

    August 23, 2011 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
  46. D. A. N.

    By not giving up bin Laden the Taliban made themselves accessory's to the attack!

    August 24, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  47. salerno

    Mullah Omar asked proof and an impartial trial in neutral country.

    August 24, 2011 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
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    if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck........it's a duck.

    The rest of the world sees wahabis (a BRANCH of ISLAM) as the face of islam. Deal with it. If they don't really represent all of islam then, too bad, they have nicely ruined whatever reputation other moslems would like to have about their religion and faith.

    August 21, 2011 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  49. salerno

    The Wahabi are supported by the USA, so blame the USA and eventually the UK too for their part in the process before the USA.

    August 21, 2011 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  50. D. A. N.

    No idiot the USA does not support Wahabi's. They have a relationship with Saudi Arabia that consist of common interests against rouge nations and terrorism. They do not support the Saudi's!

    August 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm | Report abuse |
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    no matter what the real situation is and how deviant, cruel, and despotic the tiny "t's" are ALWAYS blame America. NEVER should they take responsibility for their actions. Never.

    (the twin trolls position in a nutshell....)

    August 21, 2011 at 6:25 pm | Report abuse |
  52. salerno

    It is America who does not take responsibility for their actions, in fact they attacked Iraq, a secolarist muslim country with 1,5 million christians and protected and supported Saudi Arabia, a wahabi radical muslim country.
    Additionally americans created the only one muslim country in Europe wich is Kosovo.

    August 22, 2011 at 5:35 am | Report abuse |
  53. D. A. N.

    No it's all your fault! You are to blame!

    August 22, 2011 at 9:49 am | Report abuse |
  54. salerno

    Untill America move military operations in those countries, like Arabia, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Pakistan, they are responsible for the situation. Even colonialism is responsible, as Ghaddafi took power as reaction to colonialism, in that case made by Italy. Military leadership took place of the muslim leadership. Let's hope in Libya the rebels give power to some islamic authority as the people is yelling Allah o'Akbar.

    August 22, 2011 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  55. D. A. N.

    That would be a sore eye for God because Islam was made through the devil! And many are now astray!

    August 22, 2011 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
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    wow.........you have no clue about what you REALLY told the readership about yourself.

    August 21, 2011 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
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    and now he's ridiculing others for their poor spelling.........?

    psychosis and bigotry on display. he'd make a good clinical or case study for psych students. notice how he makes less and less sense? each post is more and more fragmented and disjointed. and foul.

    August 21, 2011 at 6:21 pm | Report abuse |
  58. ~

    who put you in charge? no. kiss my a$$.

    August 21, 2011 at 6:29 pm | Report abuse |
  59. ~

    i bow humbly before your piercing perceptivity, astute polemics, and rapier like wit......................(riiiiiiiiight...............)

    August 21, 2011 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
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    use spell check, twit. you slam others for poor spelling now apply your cheap shot advice to yourself.

    August 22, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |

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