July 15th, 2011
07:37 AM ET

First U.S. troops in drawdown depart Afghanistan

The first batch of U.S. soldiers set to leave Afghanistan left earlier this week, beginning a drawdown of 10,000 U.S. troops scheduled to depart by year's end.

Some 650 U.S. Army soldiers left the northeastern province of Parwan on Wednesday, according to Lt. Commander Colette Murphy, a spokeswoman for the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force.

Military officials say this is the first group of soldiers whose redeployment will not be replaced by a new rotation of fresh troops.

The remainder of a 33,000 U.S. troop surge - which began in 2009 - are expected to return home by the end of 2012, U.S. President Barack Obama said in June.

The full drawdown is expected to take place by the end of 2014.

The announcement comes one day after Gen. David Petraeus - the outgoing top commander of the NATO coalition forces in Afghanistan - crossed into Pakistan with his successor Marine Lt. Gen. John Allen to meet with top Pakistani military brass.

The meeting - Petraeus' seventh trip to the neighboring country as ISAF commander - was part of an effort to "improve regional security," according to a NATO statement.

The United States is currently holding back $800 million in aid to Pakistan, President Barack Obama's chief of staff said Sunday.

Relations between the two nuclear powers soured recently after a U.S. raid on former al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden's compound in May.

Pakistan later decided to reduce the number of visas for U.S. military trainers.

Tensions have also been strained by U.S. drone attacks in Pakistan's tribal areas that have sometimes resulted in civilian casualties.

Meanwhile, Petraeus' exit and the troop drawdown comes amid a rash of recent violence across Afghanistan, particularly in country's restive southern provinces.

On Thursday, a suicide bomber slipped into a Kandahar mosque and killed at least six people, wounding 15 others, a hospital official said.

The attack occurred as several high-ranking Afghan officials had gathered to remember President Hamid Karzai's half-brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai, the Kandahar provincial council chief and key powerbroker in the region, who was slain Tuesday by a long-time bodyguard during a gathering at his house.

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  1. salerno

    Fuit

    July 23, 2011 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
  2. salerno

    How is translated John 6-1 in your version ?? Was a man sent by God whose name was Joannes ?

    July 23, 2011 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      The gospel of John chapter six tells of how HE fed five thousand people with five loafs of bread and two small fish, READ CORRECTLY!

      July 23, 2011 at 6:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – SORRY, I INVERTED THE NUMBERS. IT IS 1-6 (NOT 6-1).

        July 24, 2011 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Neither does John chapter one say that John the Baptist was an envoy of God and if you read on you would know that he had testimonies of Jesus and who HE IS! NO THIS NOT AN ENVOY OF GOD, BUT A PREACHER OF GOD!

        July 24, 2011 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      And TELL ME do you think your so close to GOD and have so much knowledge of GOD that you know HIS name?

      July 23, 2011 at 10:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Strange question about the name. Yes I know the name, but I will not tell you.

        July 24, 2011 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YOU DO NOT KNOW GOD, HOW CAN YOU KNOW HIS NAME? AND WHAT YOU TELL i DO NOT CARE!

        July 24, 2011 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I am awaiting your answer about John gospel 1-6 where Baptist is indicated as an envoy. How can you talk about God if you don't know his messangers?

        July 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        You are an ignorant fool! i SAID JOHN Chapter 6 talks of Jesus feeding five thousand people with five loafs of bread and two small fish! It doesn't mention anything about JOHN the BAPTIST WHICH i TOLD you IS THE HIGHEST PREACHER ON EARTH!

        July 24, 2011 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        DAN- IT IS CHAPTER ONE COMMAS SIX- I INVERTED THE NUMBERS. i AM AWAITING YOUR ANSWER..

        July 24, 2011 at 1:35 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART AND JUST AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GOSPEL. YOU SHOULD KNOW WITHOUT ANY RESEARCH, BUT YOU ARE IGNORANT ABOUT YOUR OWN RELIGION.

        July 24, 2011 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        TELL ME THIS VERY IMPORTANT PART THAT YOU SAY IS JUST IN THE BEGINNING THAT SAYS JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS AN ENVOY OF GOD?

        July 25, 2011 at 4:56 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        yes chapter 1 comma 6. The first page wich should be open right in the desk even in any Free Mason Lodge with christian or catholic inspiration.

        July 25, 2011 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YES JOHN THE BAPTIST IS SENT BY GOD TO SHOW THE LIGHT AND YOU DO NOT LISTEN!

        July 25, 2011 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        NOW A REVELATION: PEOPLE SENT BY GOD ARE ENVOY BY DEFINITION TO SPEAK FOR GOD (PRO-PHEMI) AND THOSE SPEAKING FOR GOD ARE PROPHETS BY DEFINITION (TO SPEAK FOR=PRO-FEMI).

        July 25, 2011 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  3. salerno

    "MISSUS" means that he was an envoy, so a prophet.

    July 23, 2011 at 3:17 am | Report abuse |
  4. Reuven Frank.

    181 of 229 posts were completely off subject.

    this blog was hijacked and subverted.

    Ruined.

    July 21, 2011 at 7:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      If you think it was hijacked or subverted that is your opinion NOT GOD"S! If at all any comment here that had brought news to the truth to anyone it surely was not subverted! As for troop withdrawal America and their allies SHOULD leave IMMEDIATELY AND LET uthman and the Muslim people handle their OWN problems SEEING that they are not grateful for what the US and their allies are trying to do for them and misusing the funds that we have given them, But the US government knows themselves how to misuse much money not only for things that are just plain ignorant but also for themselves and the rich and big businesses that have too much NOW and not only could put people to work NOW but could also do plenty of good for the poor, disadvantaged, sick and the elderly, BUT most are only waiting for incentives for themselves and do NOT have Jesus' and GOD"S WILL in mind!

      July 22, 2011 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Reuven Frank.

      WELL I underSTAND how you would NOT want to TAKE responsibility for YOUR PART of messing this blog UP.

      July 22, 2011 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        WELL that is GOOD and i HOPE and PRAY that you also would put Jesus FIRST in your life.

        July 22, 2011 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  5. big Al

    @ Littlest DAN. Religion is riddled with individual interpretation. For the most part the Holy Bible applies to people of today! People haven't changed only our surrounds have!

    July 21, 2011 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      AL I suggest you sincerely put JESUS as NUMBER 1 in your life!

      July 21, 2011 at 11:19 pm | Report abuse |
  6. big Al

    Hello Salerno. That DAN GUY is a character don't you agree. I do not get where he gets his info but I would love for my pastor to see what he has stated.

    July 21, 2011 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Hello All, Dan made his own religion for his consumption only, as he has no followers. He knows only the english translation of the Bible. It is like those rolling a cigarettes of maryuana and smoking their own work,..

      July 21, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        cigarette

        July 21, 2011 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        HOW IS IT MY OWN AND WHAT MAKES ANY OTHER TRANSLATION DIFFERENT?

        July 21, 2011 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Any translation is partial, especially for the old testament and the Quran, as they are writen under sacred rules.

        July 21, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        And i BET you think your sacred!

        July 21, 2011 at 11:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I can read and understand the original language.

        July 22, 2011 at 3:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      SHOW him LITTLE AL!

      July 21, 2011 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  7. big Al

    Wasn't Jesus the Messiah? Now that's what I know!

    July 21, 2011 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      AND YOU KNOW RIGHT BIG AL!

      July 21, 2011 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  8. big Al

    @DAN. Anymore confusing statements? I'm starting to miss the hatred that you spew. Guess that's just entertainment!

    July 20, 2011 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Hatred? How do you figure?

      July 21, 2011 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  9. Dan from Chicago, IL

    Moses, John the Baptist nor Jesus where prophets!

    July 20, 2011 at 5:42 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Jesus spoke for God as his envoy, so he was technically a "Prophet" under linguistic ethimology meaning og the word "prophet" wich comes from the greek PRO- PHEMY=TO SPEAK FOR.

      July 21, 2011 at 2:46 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Correct spelling is PHEMI not phemy, the latin equivalent is FARI

        July 21, 2011 at 9:02 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        JESUS TOLDM ALL THAT HE WAS THE MESSIAH!

        July 21, 2011 at 11:21 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Jesus was correct, as he was the Messiah = Xristos = Anointed = Rasul = Envoy.

        July 22, 2011 at 3:29 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      of (not og)

      July 21, 2011 at 2:47 am | Report abuse |
  10. big Al

    A great one. Get paid usually. But you are getting it for free!

    July 20, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
  11. big Al

    @DAN. We know you sorry but now apologize!

    July 20, 2011 at 2:44 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      What kind of joker are you?

      July 20, 2011 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dan from Chicago, IL

    Islam had only false prophets and also false Christs! And your understanding of any prophet from Islam is based on lies!

    July 20, 2011 at 2:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Sorry did it again.

      July 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – Idiot ! Among prophets in Islam there are Jesus, S.John Baptist, Moses. Were they false ?

      July 20, 2011 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
  13. big Al

    @DAN anymore name calling? It only shows how immature you really are. You know, child in adult body.

    July 20, 2011 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      i DID NOT mean the post below for you, there you go assuming again.

      July 20, 2011 at 2:08 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Dan from Chicago, IL

    Whatever you say follower of THE false prophet!

    July 20, 2011 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  15. big Al

    As for this post.... Never never never underestimate the enemy! NEVER!!

    July 20, 2011 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  16. big Al

    @DAn "your" instead of "are" in my last post.

    July 19, 2011 at 8:03 pm | Report abuse |
  17. big Al

    @DAN from Chicago IL. Grow up. You act like a spoiled child. I guess "daddy wasn't there" and mommy didn't discipline you properly because are behavior is lacking! Big AL OUT!

    July 19, 2011 at 7:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      lttile al, grow up and spoiled child? YOU should LOOK in the mirror! i DID NOT have a daddy growing up, BUT FATHER HAS BEEN WITH ME FOR ALL TIME! my mother also HAS HIM WITH HER! AS FOR YOUR ASSUMPTION YOU AGAIN MADE AN ASS OF YOURSELF!

      July 20, 2011 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  18. big Al

    @Dan When you ASSUME you make a ... Ya know what I mean!

    July 19, 2011 at 7:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      You mean an ass of yourself like you did below?

      July 19, 2011 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  19. big Al

    @DAN Yep! I saw it on Return of The MUMMY with Brandon Fraiser! Am I right?

    July 19, 2011 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      i DON"T know little Al, i DO NOT watch movies, BUT i WILL tell you that those who make fun of GOD AND HIS HOLY SPIRIT are not only foolish but very unwise!

      July 19, 2011 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse |
  20. big Al

    @DAN from Chicago,IL. You live and thrive on drama! We can't state a thing without you twisting and taking them out of context. I have reasons to believe that your are showing signs of classic narcissism. You know always the victim and everyone else is wrong!

    July 19, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Dan from Chicago, IL

    You Muslims believe that you are the only true people who follow GOD! JUST LOOK AT YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE AND ANY IDIOT CAN SEE THAT THE WAY YOU LIVE YOUR LIVES WHICH SUCH CONFIDENCE THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN KILL AND EVEN KILL YOUR OWN BROTHERS, SISTERS, MOTHERS, FATHERS AND CHILDREN(WHICH IF YOU KNEW HOW LIFE GOES ON YOU WOULD SEE THAT YOU DO!)AND THAT GOD WOULD ONLY TAKE THOSE WHO FOLLOW YOUR MAN MADE RELIGION TO HEAVEN! AND salerno WITH GOD'S WORD THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS WHO JESUS WAS, THE WAY HE LIVED HIS LIFE AND WHY HE DIED ON THE CROSS! IT DOES NOT TAKE ANY CLERIC OR EXPERT TO UNDERSTAND THIS!

    July 19, 2011 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan -You are following a false religion with false premisses. You are deceived by the church and by the US government.
      You are a comical enterteinment to me.

      July 20, 2011 at 4:04 am | Report abuse |
  22. Dan from Chicago, IL

    You Will Soon SEE Jesus and may learn to know God but most likely you will follow the anti-Christ and in the process DIE!

    July 19, 2011 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      i MEANT the above reply for salerno!

      July 19, 2011 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Dan from Chicago, IL

    THAT IS THE TRUTH!@

    July 19, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  24. big Al

    @DAN in Chicago,IL. Guess what since you keep throwing the Bible at all of us. God says "A time for War and a time for Peace. We need to keep EVIL at bay and it takes Evil to fight Evil. Now take off the rose colored glass and look at reality.

    July 19, 2011 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      AL if you think that evil is the only way to defeat evil then you do NOT know GOD! Because in the end GOD and his true followers WILL defeat evil! And if you think GOD is evil then like i said you do NOT know GOD!

      July 19, 2011 at 2:11 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      said the racist.

      .

      July 19, 2011 at 4:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Do you mean to tell ME that with Islam being around for ONLY just over 1,600 years you can tell ME who has been around since time began! that you know the truth!

      July 19, 2011 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      AND before you tell me i NEED a doctor i SAY to you again that you NEED more than a doctor! ALSO i WOULD like you to know that there are many other places in this Universe that live by the LOVE OF GOD without any cruel punishment to do so!

      July 19, 2011 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
  25. big Al

    @DAN from Chicago, IL. I'm feeling left out. You haven't slammed me or spewed hatred at me which IS unchristian. With your statements about the military as in other parts in life, It's a doubled edge sword. The triumphs of our military affords your freedoms and liberties and it does come with a PRICE. But you have a right to your own opinion thou It's not always factual.

    July 19, 2011 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
    • George Patton

      Good grief big Al, just when are you going to wise up and realize that this obnoxious war has absolutely nothing at all to do with neither our rights or freedoms nor our national security? It's all about Afghanistan's mineral resources buried underground there and a prop for the right-wing politicians here!

      July 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • American Soldier

        Beautifully said, George. How right you are!!!!!

        July 20, 2011 at 2:26 am | Report abuse |
  26. big Al

    @DAN on July 15, 2011 at 9:11 ET You sir threw the FIRST PUNCH with your "Right-Wing" statement. Look it up. Mickey was right about people like YOU!

    July 18, 2011 at 11:45 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Look again, that was Dan from Detroit,MI, i do not hold any grudge against anyone who has their own position on government policy! That is their position and right even though it may be wrong.my only concern IS that everyone be discerning of others!

      July 19, 2011 at 6:16 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – I am laughing like a crazy, as I noted a lot of time ago that your discussion was based on a misunderstanding, but I did not tell anything as I wanted to see how much time you needed to understand, in order to quantifie your stupidity.

      July 19, 2011 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        So smart ass you think i DID NOT KNOW!

        July 20, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
  27. big Al

    @Mickey. Home run about the statement "It's much easier to insult the other person on a personal level...". It's those who throw the first punch always play the victim.

    July 18, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
  28. big Al

    @Dan. Love your opinions. Are you finished tripping out on me?

    July 18, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      First of all big Al i don't think your that big. Secondly i DID NOT trip out on you, i JUST stated the truth. Thirdly i DID NOT hear an apology, PERSONALLY or to all the fast food workers. And finally the opinions i write are the opinions of GOD, HIS HOLY SPIRIT AND HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON which i hold most dearly within my heart, mind and soul. Also which i AM ONE with THEM! my HOPE is that you can be too!

      July 18, 2011 at 11:03 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Mikey

    Wishful thinking that the use of ad homenium arguments would cease and be replaced with real debate.

    For those with average intelligence and average education it's much easier to insult the other person on a personal level than post thoughtful comments, and to reply to such with intelligent rebuttals.

    Intelligent being the operative word. But then that's an ad homenium argument in action............

    July 18, 2011 at 6:52 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      Debate or debating is a formal method of interactive and representational argument. Debate is a broader form of argument than logical argument, which only examines consistency from axiom, and factual argument, which only examines what is or isn't the case or rhetoric which is a technique of persuasion.

      Though logical consistency, factual accuracy and some degree of emotional appeal to the audience are important elements of the art of persuasion, in debating, one side often prevails over the other side by presenting a superior "context" and/or framework of the issue, which is far more subtle and strategic.

      July 18, 2011 at 7:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      When I call someone stupid is not an insult, but a technical term to explain his difficoulty to understand the discussion.

      July 19, 2011 at 2:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        What are you trying to do, wiggle your way out of what you are? YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND LIFE LET ALONE ANY DISCUSSION!

        July 19, 2011 at 6:53 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        When I try to focus attention on the truth and reality, you shift the discussion about God and afterlife. Those arguments cannot be addressed here.

        July 19, 2011 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Oh salerno, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHY YOUR STUPID? It because your parents introduced YOU to God, His SON and the HOLY SPIRIT and YOU walked away!

        July 19, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – How can you understand afterlife, if you are so stupid to not understand this life and in particular even what is going on in this blog for what is concerning the discussion ?

        July 19, 2011 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TRUTH IS? tell ME, is it the truth to make up a religion that is in accordance with the way GOD wanted all of us all to live and then call yourselves the BEST people and GOD"S only people that are in accordance with the way GOD wants us all to live. So your radical followers believe that they have the right to kill all infidels and many, what they call either non-Muslims or false Christians because they think that's what GOD wants them to do to purify the world of who they THINK is the devil! When IN FACT they DO NOT even know GOD AND THE WAY HE WANTS US ALL TO LIVE! AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY KILL EVEN THEIR SELVES ALONG WITH MANY OTHER AND THINK THAT THEY ARE DOING WHAT GOD WANTS! When in fact the MUSLIM WORLD is not even saved from their sins they have have done. AND ALL i CAN DO IS PRAY TO JESUS AND HAVE HOPE THAT ALL OF ISLAM WOULD TRULY KNOW HIM! FOR HOW CAN THEY KNOW HIM WHEN EVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR RELIGION THEY HAD FOUGHT AND KILLED EACH OTHER OVER WHO HELD THE REIGNS OF POWER AFTER THE maker of their religion had passed on and also which Koran was correct! So someone burned all except one version! IS THIS WHAT JESUS CHRIST CAME FOR FROM THE FATHER TO BE HIS HOLY SPIRIT, TO SHOW US THE WAY TO LIVE AND DIE FOR US!

        July 19, 2011 at 2:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – The Sharya does not allow to kill non-muslims if they are not fighting. Jihad means to fight for self-defence.
        Additionally, there is only ONE Quran, and the reason is that it cannot be translated or alterated because there are laws in any sacred scriptures to prevent it.

        July 19, 2011 at 3:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Uthman compiled all the versions of the Koran into one and then burned the remaining different version!

        July 19, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Versions!

        July 19, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan- It is for that reason the Othman is called "the Wise". His version is the only version. Even the Bible had some falsifications.

        July 20, 2011 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        The only reason why Uthman was wise is that he knew that the only way to stop you radical Muslims from warring against one another! Boy do we need him now!

        July 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      so much for hoping the ad homenium tactic will disappear...................... futile.................

      July 19, 2011 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        " homenium " ? may be you mean "ad hominem" ? do not use latin if it is not your field.

        July 19, 2011 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Mikey

        stuff it, you pretentious twit.

        July 19, 2011 at 11:37 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        pretentious..... may be, but correct ! What about you pretending to use the latin without knowledge ? But this is typical of many americans. Superficial and pretentious.

        July 19, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mikey

        ADS HOMENIUM: An ad hominem (Latin: "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it

        July 19, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        "homenium" does not exist in latin. It is a totally wrong spelling. Latins were cultivated.

        July 19, 2011 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mikey

        oh self righteous one: ad hominum.

        my miss spelling does not negate my point in any way.

        An ad hominem (Latin: "to the man"), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an attempt to link the truth of a claim to a negative characteristic or belief of the person advocating it. The ad hominem is normally described as a logical fallacy,

        July 19, 2011 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Mikey – even your point is wrong as the spelling. I responded to insults with other insults, like even All said above.
        I reject your claim as it will be better directed to you.

        July 20, 2011 at 3:57 am | Report abuse |
  30. Saeed

    dear All,

    Why are you representing yourself and your family training using this useless things. instead of pointing each other and bringing religion in to this issue. please think about some well thought theories. i as an afghan will have concerns over US removal of thier forces but if we keep on being dependent on US forces for how long they can stay one or the other they will leave. so it would be wise if take control of our own people and does not let the other chance for others to subjugate our people and create the platform for US to emerge in Afghanistan and once thier target is achieved leave us back in thunderstorm.

    they came to defeat alqayeda but just after unclear uncertain killing of bin laden now they are leaving with out any care for thos lost thier love once due to US search and attacks for Alqayda. i am not blaming US for this any super power whose securiry and people become under strong attack they will react but such reaction should not result in killing and displacement of millions of other people.

    there is very short way to end this way. dont bring your soldiers to Afghanistan just support Afghan Voice and not just a single person like Karzai. i am asking one qusetions what kind of democracy is this that a single person controls everything for ten years. please stop making Karzai an other Ghadafi and dont come again to bombard our country. this qusetion is directly to US government if you think by having a weak government support your stay would be confirmed for many years it is just a bunch of weak ideas and nothing else. Yes we need US support but that support should be unconditional support and should not be for a particular time or purpose. at last i said what i had to say please have your mindsets and try not to force others to accept what ever you say atelast give the people feedom to speak thier mind. ability to express what should be expressed. otherwise Afghanistan would be come another disaster in the history of the world

    July 18, 2011 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      TO ALL: I am a man who suffered greatly on 9/11, and whether or not you are an afghan, Sweden, German, from Europe, South America, North America, Africa, the Middle East or Asia if YOU support Terrorists or anyone who would fly jets into the two tallest buildings in the world which represented WORLD COMMUNITY and kill nearly 3,000 people YOUR DESTINY IS HELL! AND those who continue to fight against those who are trying to bring justice(for all those who died on 9/11)to ALL terrorists who kill because they have hatred for the way others live ALSO ARE DESTINED TO HELL!

      July 18, 2011 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Andrew Lubin

        I'm greatly sorry for your losses in 9/11. But then again, hatred only begets hatred. The gist of what I'm trying to say here is that somehow all this insane carnage needs to stop both here and overseas.

        July 18, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        God tells us to hate evil are you saying that we should go against what God says, Andrew?

        July 18, 2011 at 8:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Detroit, MI

        You do have a point Dan, about God telling us to hate evil and I do. That's the very reason I hate those rotten butchers who operate those ungodly drones, hurling 500 lb. bombs on defenseless people in the mountains of both Afghanistan and Pakistan. And what about those two American pilots who on Feb.13,1991, flew over Baghdad and bombed the Amriya air raid shelter, slaughtering upwards of 414 innocent civilians there. This was a totally dastardly act!!!

        July 18, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Dan from Detroit, your past comments show how much hatred you have for our government and to think that we are in Afghanistan to profit somehow makes you as discreditable as those Islamic radicals who think that God wants mankind to kill all those who break HIS commandments! When God had written those commandments on the two tablets HE did not say to kill those who break them! As for your dislike for those who are killing these evil men who take God's judgment upon themselves and think their doing God a favor as Jesus foretold is unwarranted. Also for those who happened to be killed in war because of either some bad intelligence or just a mistake does not make them evil, BUT for those who purposely kill others because of their hatred for them or because of their religious beliefs they are evil and when people stand up to bring justice to those kind of people God is happy because HE still has hope for humankind that good will prevail over evil!

        July 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – Can you quote the text where God say to hate evil ? I am not convinced about your translation. The word hate is wrong.

        July 19, 2011 at 2:42 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        OK IF i AM WRONG TELL me WHAT GOD SAID ABOUT EVIL?

        July 19, 2011 at 7:51 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        God in the Bible New Testament NEVER AUTHORIZED anyone to kill people and do not forgive any mistakes that resulted in killing of innocents. Justice belongs to God. Wars with missiles and mass killing are not allawed as they always implicate the killing of innocents.

        July 19, 2011 at 8:55 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        DO YOU THINK GOD NEEDS AUTHORIZATION?

        July 19, 2011 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        IDIOT – US MILITARY IS NOT GOD ! WHERE IS GOD MANDATE ?

        July 19, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Afghans are fighting the evil, as USA attacked many countries, not just in the middle east.

        July 20, 2011 at 12:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YES THE ASN AND ANA ARE!

        July 23, 2011 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Unconditional support is way too utopistic. USA has a long tradition of betraying the allies when they become useless.

      July 18, 2011 at 1:57 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Everything you support is evil so your support does nobody good! As for being a dreamer, your in for your worst nightmare! And tell me when did the USA betray an ally!? Why don't you get the hell out of America? We don't need to hear your lies and worthless crap!

        July 18, 2011 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I was referring not to my support, but to US support for Afghanistan, and I confirm it is evil.
        USA betrayed the native americans, Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, Mubaraq, Bin Laden, Pakistan, Noriega, the Palestinians, Argentina.

        July 18, 2011 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        GOD'S JUDGMENT DOES NOT NEED ANYONE'S SUPPORT, IT IS JUST AND FINAL! As for your perception of betrayal of allies when they become useless I would rather say that the US had broken partnership from those that are also evil and/or do not care for what Jesus said if you obey your obeying all of God's commandments(except for knowing thy God which is NOT allah) and that is DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD WANT THEM TO DO UNTO YOU!

        July 18, 2011 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        And when were we partners with Assad?

        July 18, 2011 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – God judgment is out of the topic. Here we are discussing about the supposed US support for Afghanistan.
        As always you are the stupid of the village. When I call you stupid is not an insult but a technical term.
        Assda was supported by the US as they gave military training to his army.

        July 19, 2011 at 2:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        NO THE TOPIC IS EVIL AND THAT IS WHAT YOU AND THE ONES YOU SUPPORT ARE! AS FOR OUR HELPING AFGHANISTAN DEFEAT EVIL THAT IS WHAT GOD WOULD WANT ALL PEOPLE TO DO! AND i AM NOT STUPID YOU ARE AND THAT IS NOT AN INSULT BUT A FACT! AS FOR THE US TRAINING SYRIA'S MILITARY THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM AN ALLY AND GOD ALSO WANTS EVERYONE TO HELP ANYONE THEY CAN IF THEY ARE IN NEED ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE SINNERS THAT NEED FORGIVENESS AND GOD'S MERCY! SO TO KILL THEM IS EVIL!

        July 19, 2011 at 8:10 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        DAN – THE FACTS ARE.
        1- THE TOPIC IS "FIRST US TROOPS IN DRAWDOWN DEPART AFGHANISTAN" NOT EVIL, NOT GOD.
        2- SO YOU ARE A THE STUPID OR AN IMBECILE, IF YOU PREFER.

        July 19, 2011 at 9:00 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        The article above is troop draw down in Afghanistan, but the topic is the region's ability to combat EVIL! AND THESE EVIL PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE FIGHTING FOR GOD! THEY AND YOU ARE STUPID OR IMBECILES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM! i WOULD RATHER CALL THEM DEVIL'S!

        July 19, 2011 at 9:33 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – read again as you are slow to understand (stupid). The word "evil" is not present in the article. Just dradown.

        July 19, 2011 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        So you think we are not fighting evil?

        July 20, 2011 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Afghans are fighting the evil USA.

        July 20, 2011 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Detroit, MI

      Saeed, the main reason that the U.S. and it's NATO allies have troops in Afghanistan is because of the underground minerals that total well over $1trillion in value and for Western companies to later exploit and enrich themselves so it's not a question of "helping the Afghan people" like the right-wing media claims it is!

      July 18, 2011 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  31. pamiri

    It is good troops go their homes and needs to be consider how many troops? I think if we want to safe our streets in us and uk from the attacks of Alqaeda and Taliban so we must fight against these wild animals in Pakistan and Afghanistan till remove them compeletely, it would be possible first we have to clean the Afghan governement from Taliban elements,

    from Kabul

    July 18, 2011 at 1:17 am | Report abuse |
  32. big Al

    @Dan Are you still grabbing at straws? Holed on while I call the waaaaabulance cry baby!

    July 17, 2011 at 10:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      You are a dummy and an idiot! Do you enjoy stating trouble? What kind of games are you playing? You say that I committed sins, well the fact is you are bearing false witness and are the one who has committed sins and I do not forgive you until you apologize! AND NEITHER WILL GOD!

      July 18, 2011 at 2:23 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      You little Al, like salerno want to thin that your better than most people. That's why you like him are so stuck up your own ass!

      July 18, 2011 at 5:24 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – you got what you deserved in your miserable life. You are worthless coward asking other americans to die for you.
      You hope for a better afterlife as you got nothing from this life, but it is your problem.

      July 18, 2011 at 8:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      salerno i do not have a miserable life, I do have a great family and many people around me who have a sense of care for one another, something you probably think you have but most of your family and friends only take advantage of you! We all will have problems in our life and with Jesus I have gotten through them. As for you, you will have problems that you will not get through, not only in this life, but also in the afterlife!

      July 18, 2011 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
      • Mikey

        your reply is wasted. the resident troll under the bridge posts disparagements and insults rather than substantive points to consider.

        July 18, 2011 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Your most likely right Mickey, but I do have to add that I do not have hope for the afterlife, I have very much faith that God will also provide for me there too, but my hope is that people like salerno and big Al will have a change of heart and this world will begin to care for one another! And to tell the truth IT WILL with or without people like salerno and big Al!

        July 18, 2011 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Sorry Mikey,I misspelled your name.

        July 18, 2011 at 11:31 am | Report abuse |
  33. Dan from Chicago, IL

    What's up al? Did you look in the mirror and see a wealthy good man that is helping the world progress but looked pass the poor, disadvantaged, sick and elderly? Are you really doing good for those in need? Or are those that are in real need in that position because their not as great of a person you are and that is their own fault like the fast food workers that you seem to like to make fun of? WHAT KIND OF PERSON ARE YOU REALLY? You talk crap about a person that you don't even know, or even said a word about you until you make a big deal out of yourself!

    July 17, 2011 at 6:19 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Dindy

    My main concern is the security of our Troops and innocent civilians of Afghanistan . This is a situation to pray but not to argue with some people who do not respect troops or civilians who have no weapons.

    July 17, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
  35. big Al

    Dan Dan Dan! Dude you are taking yourself waaaaaaay to serious. You picked the fight by stating "Will you kindly knock off the right-wing bla-bla-bla, big Al" and now you want to cry about it? I placed a post and you threw the first punch. You seem very confused about what you have posted at the very beginning. When people don't make sense and it sounds unbelievable, It's probably a lie or even delusional. Then you say your sorry and follow with another punch/personal attack? Mirror buddy mirror!! FYI! You misspelled Blah not bla!I still forgive you!

    July 17, 2011 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ernie Beatty

      I totally agree with you, big Al. Nobody should misspell the word "blah" as "bla". That's not nice but then again, what do I know? I'm just an ignorant Tea Partier just like you!

      July 17, 2011 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Al, there is nowhere on any of these blogs that I called anyone a right wing or ever said blah blah blah. You aught to have your eyes checked out. The first time that I responded to you is when you said @ Dan from Chicago, IL Did you forget to take your meds? On July 15, 2011 at 11;40 pm. Then you rambled on and said how much of a jerk I was and how great of a person you are. I think you need to look in the mirror and understand what and who your talking about! AND ALSO TRULY SEE WHAT KIND OF PERSON YOU ARE!

      July 17, 2011 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Mikey

    In times of war, law-enforcement rules are supplemented by a more permissive set of rules: namely, international humanitarian law, which governs conduct during armed conflict. Under such "war rules," unlike during peacetime, an enemy combatant can be shot without warning (unless he or she is incapacitated, in custody, or trying to surrender), regardless of any imminent threat. If a combatant is captured, he or she can be held in custody until the end of the conflict, without any trial.

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/subject_menus/lawwar.asp

    July 17, 2011 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Mikey – your post is totally irrelevant for the topic and the discussion.

      July 17, 2011 at 11:20 am | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      so, other than an instantaneous rebuttal and disparagement, what's your treasonous deserter's point?

      July 17, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0324/US-soldier-Morlock-sentenced-to-24-years-for-killing-Afghan-civilians

      July 17, 2011 at 8:20 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      The soldier was punished for disobeying to orders. All the US military is guilty like him.

      July 18, 2011 at 8:42 am | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      which means that indiscriminate killing of non combatants is NOT allowed. And punished when it happens.

      July 18, 2011 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      As I said it is not important the single punishment of 1 soldier. It is WINDOW-DRESSING.

      July 18, 2011 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Mikey

      Oh ye of perfect tunnel vision: this was ONE of several citations, used as a legal EXAMPLE. Fortunately there are not many.

      July 18, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Conversely there are MANY EXAMPLES OF DELIBERATE CIVILIANS KILLING BY THE US MILITARY.

        July 19, 2011 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        SHOW AND TELL ME OF THEM! THERE HAS BEEN ONLY ONE INCIDENT THAT i KNOW OF AND THEY WERE PROSECUTED!

        July 19, 2011 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Only in Serbia many deliberate acts of civilian killings occurred: 1 civilian train bombed – 2- Chinese embassy bombed
        3- Hospital bombed 4- TV building bombed. I Iraq and afghanistan those episodes occurred every day in war time, like wikileaks showed and the US military covered the truth with lies.

        July 19, 2011 at 9:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        There are always civilian casualties in war, BUT saying that the US military as a whole is deliberately killing civilians is as false as it is true that the Taliban do!

        July 20, 2011 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        There are always civilian casualties in war and 9/11 is the demonstration too.

        July 20, 2011 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        So then you agree that bin Laden declared war on the US then huh? And you think that his actions are good huh?

        July 20, 2011 at 2:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Bin Laden reacted after US attacked AQ. If USA did the same policy of other peacefull countries like Switzerland you would have avoided 9/11.

        July 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm | Report abuse |
  37. big Al

    @Dan. I forgive you for you do not know the sins You are committing. It was you who attack my character but when it came back to you well now I'm the hypocrite? Judge and you shall be judged. Truth hurts now doesn't it. You judged me and called me a "right-wing", remember Dan? I then found myself defending myself on your constant personal attacks and all your name calling. I hope you really got it now sir. See, no name calling here. No character attacks on you! Now look at yourself sir in the mirror!

    July 17, 2011 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      When did I call you a right winger? And i never questioned your character except to sat that you think your a better person than most people. If you remember you are the one who questioned my character by not only asking if I have taken my meds, but also calling me a jerk know it all and delusional! You also tried to make me look bad because I never served in the armed forces and said that I probably only served in a fast food joint, which by the way you have called all fast food workers character in question! You are a very hateful person!

      July 17, 2011 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Oh and you called me a liar too!

        July 17, 2011 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        And I have nothing to be forgiven of, BUT you surely do! If you look back you are the one who did all the name calling, BUT I guess because you think you are so great of a person that is OK!

        July 17, 2011 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Oh, I'm sorry I called you a snobby ass, but if the shoe fits wear it. As Jesus said to His disciples the poor woman who gave penny's into the offering gave much more that the rich people did! And the same goes for you because you still have plenty and really made no sacrifice but the poor go through many sacrifices in life while the rich enjoy so much in life, but as life is short enjoy all you can because in the afterlife you cannot take it with you AND as God said blessed are the poor for the kingdom of God is yours.

        July 17, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  38. big Al

    @Dan. At least I've made a difference beyond my family, hypocrite!

    July 17, 2011 at 8:49 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      How am I a hypocrite? And in my lifetime through my actions and demeanor have helped many to understand how each of us should treat one another. As i SEE from what you think and say your actions and demeanor are that you are a greater person than most people. Is this the way Jesus wants us to be, stuck in our own pride? YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE!

      July 17, 2011 at 9:26 am | Report abuse |
  39. big Al

    @Dan. I've donated complete phone systems to not-for-profit companies and never did I let my local chamber or any chamber promote my business because that's not why I did it. I did it just because there was a need and I was able to help. I'm in the process of donating another phone system to a Christian youth camp and there will NOT be a Press Release involved. Got it really good now?

    July 16, 2011 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  40. big Al

    @Dan. Buddy you have got delusions. I've only state the truth. My point is I love my country more than most since I've lived in other countries and missed what the US has to offer and yet you never served and you act like a "know-it-all jerk". Volunteer at your local VA Medical Center and look at reality of the sacrifices us Vets have endured. Got it now?

    July 16, 2011 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      AL I'm sure the people you have helped are very grateful, but for you to call me a liar when you know nothing about me is very disrespectful. I was fatherless and worked very hard to bring up two boys that are nowvery good men and now Ii have two grandchildren which we all have survived on very little. It sounds like you have very much to offer the community and are doing something about it, but if I were you I would get my nose that is stuck up my ass and do as the Lord said, give it all to the poor and follow HIM with the kind of love He has for all people!

      July 17, 2011 at 5:45 am | Report abuse |
  41. Loyalist

    Lest we forget the conditons and penalties for desertion:

    Punitive Articles of the UCMJ Article 85—Desertion

    “(a) Any member of the armed forces who—

    (1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away therefrom permanently;

    (2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service; or

    (c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.”

    July 16, 2011 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
  42. big Al

    @Dan from Chicago,I'll. I wasn't looking for a cry baby contest and if you say is true and I firmly doubt it. I have fed the homeless, donated things to the less fortunate. Supported my wife's Mexican family with love any plenty of money. So yes, I've served my country, the homeless and my families while I suffer from several medical issues. I don't sit around and tell people a sad story, just to try and get the One Up!

    July 16, 2011 at 9:39 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Al i am not looking for your sympathy and i do mot care what you say you have done, for God says you should treat people the way you want to be treated and from what I hear from you is that you think your all that,,but because even if are what you say you have no respect for others just because you think your so great! God also says that those who proclaim how great they are have already gotten their reward. I will wait for God to give me what I deserve because what I do for others i don't expect anything in return. As for you, you want recognition here on earth and that is all you'll get! For God does not like those who proclaim themselves to be better than others as He has shown that to the Pharisees! God would rather you do good things for people and expect rewards in heaven not here on earth. If you do you have already received your reward! So you can keep your snobby ass to yourself!

      July 16, 2011 at 6:48 pm | Report abuse |
  43. big Al

    @Dan from Chicago, Il. Did you forget to take your meds? Your so left-wing you only think I'm a right wing. I bet you have never served! The sacrifices I've made and the breaking down of my body sir, you need to get a clue. I would serve my country all over again knowing the sacrifices and the injuries that come with it! What have you served? Fast food I bet!

    July 15, 2011 at 11:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      No big Al i have never served in the armed forces and I'm neither left or right. If it were not for my age and my medical disabilities I would surely be on the front lines in this war on terror because this world is hard enough to live in let alone to have to deal with these evil terrorists. I am thankful for your service, but it does not make you a better man or patriot and give you the right to put down any man that has not gone to war. I probably have been through more death defying experiences than you have. I was in a coma at age 19 and paralyzed the right half of my body due to a motorcycle accident, had blood clots in both lungs and pneumonia that also nearly killed me let alone a herniated disc also with three bulging discs. I am sorry that many of our troops do not come home safely and in good health, BUT you sir should think of others besides yourself!

      July 16, 2011 at 5:46 am | Report abuse |
  44. bobo

    The Moderator is the one who posted them in the first place. CNN has outsourced its Moderating to the Taliban.

    July 15, 2011 at 9:20 pm | Report abuse |
  45. salerno

    Proud american – idiot- you are a terrorist.

    July 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • imran khada

      dirty filth dog like amerikan u piece of terrorist i spit on your egg head face. AMERICAN = TERRORIST TRASH

      July 15, 2011 at 11:57 pm | Report abuse |
  46. PROUD AMERICAN

    If u don't support our troops,then your a terrorist. Simple as that. These men and woman put there lifes on the lines for all of us to have the freedom that we have today. I hate that were in war, but we gotta do what we gotta do and I am extremly happy obama is pulling some out....now he needs to get all of them home safely to there families where they belong.

    July 15, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Idiot, you are a terrorist.

      July 15, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Detroit, MI

      Just where do you come off calling me, George Patton and a few other of us level-headed bloggers here terrorists? According to you, our fathers would also be terrorists by your definition back in the 1770's and 80's. Be arrogant and self righteous all you like but don't vomit your ignorance here by trying to insult us! Moreover, George Patton commanded the 3rd Army during WW2, not you!!!

      July 15, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Detroit, MI

        My post above was aimed at PROUD AMERICAN and nobody else just to be clear here.

        July 15, 2011 at 7:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • American Soldier

      Hey you above, just who are you to call a man like George Patton a terrorist? He led the 3rd Army back in WW2 and now to some idiot like you insult him like this on this web page just makes my blood boil!!!

      July 15, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • American Soldier

        Like you Dan, I too was talking to PROUD AMERICAN. I guess that somebody doesn't want PROUD AMERICAN's feeling hurt!

        July 15, 2011 at 8:00 pm | Report abuse |
    • Bud Tree Jr.

      I see that the idiot who's moderating this web page is still letting these nasty pictures be posted here much to my disgust!!!

      July 15, 2011 at 8:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • InCombatNow

      Supporting the troops doesn't mean supporting costly and pointless wars. Many of the people who spend time over in the desert will tell you this.

      July 15, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  47. john

    the only reason why america is there is becouse afghanistan has wealth underground worth trillions recources and the people of afghan dont really know that becouse lack of technology there is no terrorist there they are just trying to defend their land we would do the same if foreigners came to our country killing our people this war is only trying to make the rich dirty politicians even more richer war proofeters criminals they are the criminals not them

    July 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
    • George Patton

      Thank you, john. Nothing could be closer to the truth!!!

      July 17, 2011 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
  48. luis aka leather neck

    I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WHO DODGES THE DRAFT SHOULD NEVER EVER SET FOOT IN THE USA IF YOU DO THEN WE COULD TAKE YOU TO A FAR OFF PLACE WERE TORTURE IS TOTALLY LEGAL ON THE STATUE OF TREASON COWARDLY ACT OF DISRESPECT TO OUR FOUNDING FATHER BEFORE US THAT IS A TOTAL SPIT IN OUR FACE I HOPE KARMA GETS A HOLD ON THE WAR PROTESTER AND FACIST...YANKS WHAT A PIECE OHF DOG POO YOU STUPID GUIDO CAMEL JOCKEY THEIR ARE MORE RACES IN OUR COUNTRY THE HALF THE POPULATION OF THIS PLANET SO WERE NOT RACIST WERE PATRIOTIC..MEN

    July 15, 2011 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      You are a shame to your funding fathers.

      July 15, 2011 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YOU salerno are a shame to the human race!

        July 15, 2011 at 8:14 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Jm

    Wow how do those swat girls look so good ?

    July 15, 2011 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  50. Afam

    Any way you look at it we still need to thank God for a country like the U.S if not the whole word would'v been a hell

    July 15, 2011 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  51. amrullah lmao

    I would keep quiet b4 these 'stupid' yanks fire some drone rockets up ur snizz...worthless country

    July 15, 2011 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  52. aflyer the moron

    Go hug a tree and keep ur head in the sand..all politicians are corrupt not just one admin...and ur comment about not winning after ww2...is baseless...go rub ur boyfriends feet

    July 15, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  53. Arleashia

    Amen to bring them soldiers home!!! But what about them continuing to deploy US troop to that area?

    July 15, 2011 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
  54. dj

    As a veteran, I was in during the first Gulf War and other incidents. During my time in and after I left the military, I had to deal with a lot of negative sentiment. People should remember that politicians make the decisions about foriegn and domestic policies. Policies should be made in the interest of the people and not secial interest. And when decisions are made, then they need to be completed, not dropped when it becomes difficult.

    July 15, 2011 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  55. aflyer guy

    That turd bush and his sidekick "the dick" lied to get us into this mess just so rich republican donors could be war profiteers. We did not win this war, and have not won any war since ww2!! We need to stop these wars immediately and let the "camel jockeys" decide their own fate!!

    July 15, 2011 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
    • aflyer idiot

      korea: ceasefire we didnt win so yeah ill give u that one
      vietnam: we lost about 60,000 americans but compared to how many of vietnamaese we killed it was nothing like what the media turned it into.
      cold war: i dont see the USSR anywhere so yes its safe to say we won that
      Gulf War: 100 hours of the us humiliating Sadams forces

      anyone who says we havnt won anything since WWII is a complety idiot ablitarate to any history or knowledge

      July 15, 2011 at 1:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        War is not just about killing people. There are strategical objectives to be pursued and the proportion cost/benefit must be considered. More Vietnamitees than american died, but still americans died,
        more koreans than americans died, but still americans died,
        more iraqis than americans died, but still americans died,
        more afghans than american died, but still americans died.
        These wars did not provide positive results to the american people, but to the Military complex and war industry.
        USA middle class is shrinking, poverty is on the rise, economy shrinked after any war, with the exception of WWII.

        July 15, 2011 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        The war in Vietnam stopped the spread of communism. The Korean war as you can see has allowed the South to flourish while the North are left in the dark. The Iraqi's now have a chance to govern themselves and Afghanistan is now voting for their own government and not run by religious fanatics who kill people publicly because that's what they think God wants! America tries to help countries to better themselves while the Taliban, terrorists and radical Muslims kill and terrorize their own people just for power!

        July 15, 2011 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        NO -VIETNAM WAR DID NOT STOP THE SPREAD OF COMMUNISM AS THEY EXTENDED COMMUNISM TO THE SOUTH. COMMUNISM IMPLODED BY ITSELF WITHOUT WARS BUT FORMER COMMUNIST LEADERSHIP ARE STILL IN PLACE.

        July 16, 2011 at 4:09 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        If we did not enter into war in Vietnam the communist would have easily taken over south Vietnam and went further into southeast Asia, but because we entered the war they did not continue to grab up nations in southeast Asia as they did in eastern Europe!

        July 16, 2011 at 2:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        South Vietnam was taken by the Communists nothwithsatnding the useless war and the death of more than 50thousands americans. The communist was halted by the local people, including the muslims in Indonesia, while other countries like China and North Korea were communists yet. North Vietnam was irrelevant in an area where the biggest power was China.

        July 17, 2011 at 6:25 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YOU ARE STUPID AND THAT IS NOT AN INSULT BUT A FACT!

        July 19, 2011 at 8:21 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I AM GLD TO SEE YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENTS TO PUT AGAINST MY LAST STATEMENT.
        SO YOU ARE DEFEATED ( and stupid)

        July 19, 2011 at 9:17 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YOU sir CANNOT DEFEAT ME!

        July 19, 2011 at 9:22 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you remained without arguments, and your negation about your failure is irrelevant for me.

        July 19, 2011 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  56. Andrew

    650 troops? Are you serious??? We have over 100,000 troops there costing us a million per year. We are literally facing collapse yet we are still funding this "war" on terror.

    July 15, 2011 at 9:23 am | Report abuse |
    • CRH

      You need to stop reading the news if you believe everything politicians say. We are not facing collapse. A debt deal will be done in time. Both sides are just posturing to pander to their base ahead of next year's elections.

      July 15, 2011 at 9:38 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You are overconfident. Not the politicians, but the economic expert like Greenspan or the FED president Bernanke are worry about debt.

        July 15, 2011 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
    • Briana

      I'm sure sending so much soldiers out costs much more than that. But any way even if we did bring them back home what would they do? The unemployment rate is over 9 percent. Either way we'd still be paying with our tax monies benefits for them and their family. As cold as it sounds money rules the world and Obama isn't planning to have a second Vietnam this time America plans to do what it came to do.

      July 15, 2011 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Briana – you are wrong. The military is reducing his personnel especially the Navy and second the army. There are other works possible to be created if the investiments are shifted from the military to civilian infrastructures.

        July 15, 2011 at 1:45 pm | Report abuse |
  57. big Al

    As a former US Army Grunt, I my opinion it shows to other nations and even the enemy that we "the US" are over confident. As long as we have the support from Afghanistan to replace the leaving 10,000 troops with a level of abilities as our boys and the trust needed so that we do not have to return, I would see this as a "win-win". God bless America!

    July 15, 2011 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Detroit, MI

      Will you kindly knock off the right-wing bla-bla-bla, big Al? I only wish that ALL the troops would be included in this "drawdown"!!! We have absolutely no business over there and that's that!!!

      July 15, 2011 at 9:11 am | Report abuse |
    • An Afghan

      I my self an Afghan and our Third generation seeing third super power leaving Afghanistan not as an victorious. May be my kids will ask who is next. Peace to all.

      July 15, 2011 at 9:18 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I am sorry for the problems caused by our people.

        July 15, 2011 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        YOUR PEOPLE? SINCE WHEN ARE YOU A TRUE AMERICAN? AND ONLY THE TALIBAN AND THEIR TERRORIST ALLIES HAVE CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS IN AFGHANISTAN!

        July 15, 2011 at 8:30 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Jewelz

    Praise God we're getting outta there!! It's way past time we bring and KEEP our soldiers HOME!! Support Our Military!!!!

    July 15, 2011 at 8:14 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Support the military only when they are at home and slur them badly when they are outside.

      July 15, 2011 at 8:43 am | Report abuse |
      • +

        You made your point. Deserter and traitor.

        July 15, 2011 at 9:42 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I am proud to have deserted the draft.

        July 15, 2011 at 9:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        WHEN DID YOU DESERT THE DRAFT?

        July 15, 2011 at 8:31 pm | Report abuse |
      • Mikey

        He will never tell on himself. A date would enable him to be tracked and prosecuted.

        July 18, 2011 at 3:25 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        He did not desert the draft, he is just an outright LIAR!

        July 18, 2011 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You are hilarious. It is not appropriate to give so many details about my personal story as it is out of the topic.
        I can only say that I am not stupid to do things in a way I can be prosecuted. In USA O.J Simpson killed his wife and was acquitted. Do you think american justice is working fine ? What if a foreign country bombed USA for this wrongdoing ?
        9/11 was a punishment for your sins.

        July 19, 2011 at 2:53 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        You are headed for hell because of your sins as Jesus said it is not what you put in your mouth that you will be condemned but what comes out of it! AS i SAID NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO PASS GOD'S JUDGMENT ON ANYONE!

        July 19, 2011 at 6:21 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you are wrong in your first statement as it is not reported in the Bible as you told. You are right about the second statement and this is why US military operations are evil not just in the middle east but even in Serbia, Asia or South America.

        July 19, 2011 at 9:20 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        IT IS, READ THE WHOLE BIBLE AND YOU MUST BE IGNORANT IF YOU DO NOT THINK THAT GOD DOES NOT WANT US TO HATE EVIL! AND THE MILITARY OPERATIONS IN THE MIDDLE-EAST, SERBIA, ASIA AND SOUTH AMERICA ARE JUST AND WHAT GOD WOULD EXPECT EVERY COUNTRY TO STAND UP AGAINST!

        July 19, 2011 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Your interpretation of the Bible is wrong, as you even do not understand the hebrew and the greek language used in the sacred book. Noone can read the sacred books without an authorization of the people rappresenting that tradition. This was true first among the Jews.

        July 19, 2011 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE TRUTH IS? tell ME, is it the truth to make up a religion that is in accordance with the way GOD wanted all of us all to live and then call yourselves the BEST people and GOD"S only people that are in accordance with the way GOD wants us all to live. So your radical followers believe that they have the right to kill all infidels and many, what they call either non-Muslims or false Christians because they think that's what GOD wants them to do to purify the world of who they THINK is the devil! When IN FACT they DO NOT even know GOD AND THE WAY HE WANTS US ALL TO LIVE! AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY KILL EVEN THEIR SELVES ALONG WITH MANY OTHER AND THINK THAT THEY ARE DOING WHAT GOD WANTS! When in fact the MUSLIM WORLD is not even saved from their sins they have have done. AND ALL i CAN DO IS PRAY TO JESUS AND HAVE HOPE THAT ALL OF ISLAM WOULD TRULY KNOW HIM! FOR HOW CAN THEY KNOW HIM WHEN EVEN AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR RELIGION THEY HAD FOUGHT AND KILLED EACH OTHER OVER WHO HELD THE REIGNS OF POWER AFTER THE maker of their religion had passed on and also which Koran was correct! So someone burned all except one version! IS THIS WHAT JESUS CHRIST CAME FOR FROM THE FATHER TO BE HIS HOLY SPIRIT, TO SHOW US THE WAY TO LIVE AND THEN DIE FOR US! NO sir YOU DON'T KNOW THE BIBLE OR JESUS OR GOD OR THE HOLY SPIRIT! AND IF YOU THINK GOD WOULD SAY THAT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE AUTHORIZED TO READ HIS HOLY WORD IS ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HIM OR THAT I'M IN HIM AND HE IS IN ME AND HE TELLS ME THAT YOUR DEATH IS SOON DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION!

        July 19, 2011 at 3:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – There is no mention about the Best people inside the muslims. That was among the Jews who believed to be choosen by God. It is not allowed to kill an infidel if he is not fighting.
        Finally reading the sacred books requires some knowledge and this is why there are the cleriics or experts inside every religion
        The jews have a ritual called "Nitzvah" wich give the authorization to read the Bible.

        July 19, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        You Muslims believe that you are the only true people who follow GOD! JUST LOOK AT YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE AND ANY IDIOT CAN SEE THAT THE WAY YOU LIVE YOUR LIVES WHICH SUCH CONFIDENCE THAT YOU THINK YOU CAN KILL AND EVEN KILL YOUR OWN BROTHERS, SISTERS, MOTHERS, FATHERS AND CHILDREN(WHICH IF YOU KNEW HOW LIFE GOES ON YOU WOULD SEE THAT YOU DO!)AND THAT GOD WOULD ONLY TAKE THOSE WHO FOLLOW YOUR MAN MADE RELIGION TO HEAVEN! AND salerno WITH GOD'S WORD THE ONLY THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS WHO JESUS WAS, THE WAY HE LIVED HIS LIFE AND WHY HE DIED ON THE CROSS! IT DOES NOT TAKE ANY CLERIC OR EXPERT TO UNDERSTAND THIS! GOD WOULD NOT JUST LET THE KNOWLEDGEABLE CAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING THE ONLY WAY TO HIM!

        July 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you are following a false religion. The true christians are the Muslims as the follow the true teachuing of Jesus, having Mohammed restabilished the truth of the Jesus prohecy and completed it.

        July 20, 2011 at 4:01 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Whatever you say follower of THE false prophet which Jesus said would come and is NOW in the center of the earth!

        July 20, 2011 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Islam has 25-26 prophets and I think they were even more, Your focusing exclusively on Mohammed is wrong and stupid. He was just the last one. I have a special understanding of El Khidr, the Green Prophet who never died.

        July 20, 2011 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        salerno,Islam had only false prophets and also false Christs! And your understanding of any prophet from Islam is based on lies!

        July 20, 2011 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Only false prophets ? Like Moses, San John the Baptists, Jesus ? They are among the prophets quoted in the Quran.

        July 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        For the record and why your Koran is based on lies, Moses, John the Baptist nor Jesus where prophets!

        July 20, 2011 at 5:44 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        i MEAN WERE!

        July 20, 2011 at 5:48 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        WRONG- THEY WERE PROPHETS EVEN UNDER THE PERSPECTIVE OF JEWS (MOSES) AND CHRISTIAN TRADITION. S.JOHN BAPTIST PREDICTED THE ADVENT OF JESUS.

        July 21, 2011 at 2:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        First off John the Baptist did not have any prophecy of JESUS, Isaiah DID! Secondly JESUS IS NOT A PROPHET, BUT THE CHRIST! As for Moses what were his prophecies? And THIRDLY tell ME who you think is Christ?

        July 21, 2011 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – Xristos means anointed of the Lord and the unction is a ritual of consecration. It means that Jesus is not just a prophet (Nabi in arabic) but even an envoy (rasul in arabic). Not every prophet is an envoy, but every envoy
        (messiah or rasul) is a prophet. In the same way not every saint (wali) in arabic is a prophet, but every prophet is a saint.
        There is a jerarchy in the SACRED SCIENCE.

        July 21, 2011 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        So Jesus being an envoy -rasul or messiah- is even a prophet and being a prophet is a saint, like the Matrioska bambles the biggest contains the smallest.

        July 21, 2011 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        JESUS IS LORD AND KING OF EARTH! YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE SICK AND FULL OF BLASPHEMY!

        July 21, 2011 at 11:24 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Jesus was not just King of earth like he was saluted by the first of the 3 Magis, he was High priest as he was saluted by the second and Prophet like he was saluted by the third. Gold for the king, Incensus for the priest and Mirra for the Prophet

        July 22, 2011 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        WAS? and as for your assertion of your prophets salute THEY WERE NOT NEEDED as HE was anointed by GOD HIMSELF! Also your assertion of A High Priest being in the Muslim faith or for that matter any Prophet I would think again! AS for your assumption of John the Baptist being a prophet you are wrong, HE SURELY WAS THE HIGHEST PRIEST ON EARTH!

        July 22, 2011 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        They were needed, and this is why they came.

        July 22, 2011 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        John Gospel 6-1 say Baptist was an envoy

        July 22, 2011 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        What Bible are you reading from?

        July 23, 2011 at 12:46 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The only ONE original text in latin and greek language.

        July 23, 2011 at 3:05 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Baptist is called "a man sent (MISSUS) by God".

        July 23, 2011 at 3:16 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Missus means that he was an envoy, so a prophet.

        July 23, 2011 at 3:18 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Well you can believe what you want, LIKE i SAID! But i DO NOT know what your reading from. IT SURELY IS NOT THE HOLY BIBLE! READ JOHN 3:16, 17 AND 35!

        July 23, 2011 at 6:07 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        See my reply above over the top.

        July 23, 2011 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |