Two female members of the Afghanistan Parliament got into a physical fight Tuesday following a discussion of rocket attacks from Pakistan.
General Nazifa Zaki, a former army general, threw her shoe at fellow MP Hamida Ahmadzai, video from parliament showed.
The video, posted online by TOLOnews.com, shows Zaki leave her seat to head toward Ahmadzai, who throws a water bottle at Zaki when she gets close.
Zaki punches Ahmadzai, and the two begin to tussle.
Arian Yoon, another female member of parliament, said Zaki punched Ahmadzai in the face.
Other members of parliament quickly broke the fight up.
What began as a discussion took a turn for the worse when one of the coalitions in parliament, including members who are accused of fraud, wanted to summon President Hamid Karzai about the rocket and artillery attacks from Pakistan.
Ahmadzai called for two of the country's vice presidents to be summoned.
That's when Zaki attacked, Yoon told CNN.
The Pakistani government has denied responsibility for recent deadly rocket attacks in Afghanistan.
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said the attacks were not carried out by the Pakistani army, according to a statement from Karzai's office following his meeting Zardari.
Karzai is a betrayed man for the country so he should summoune to the Parliment and to be expeled from his position and he is not the right person to run the country and he is very weak and does the Pakistan agenda in AFG,
pamiri from Kabul
RAWA is the oldest political/social organization of Afghan women struggling for peace, freedom, democracy and women's rights in fundamentalism-blighted Afghanistan since 1977.
Seems like a great organization.
also, lul @ salerno thinking that RAWA is "censored". Okay, so from now on, we must list every single organization a politician is a member of.
Barack Obama, a member of the Democratic Party, former community organizer, Catholic, announced today that...
Nuc – the term "RAWA" is censored on the main CNN blogs, as it is impossible to type that name in comments.
It is something US do not want to be known by the public, as it is counterproductive for american propaganda, because they show how most afghan women are against US occupation.
Blame it on WordPress, a content management utility not on live censorship or moderation.
WordPress is an open source blog tool and publishing platform powered by PHP and MySQL. It's often customized into a Content Management System (CMS).
U r seriously a joker. Maybe u ought to be put to sleep first
It is interesting that the RAWA organization name is censored in the main CNN blogs. Americans don't want the public to know that organization of Afghan women as they are unveiling all the lies spread by the US military in Afghanistan.
I hope he was kidding. I quite support the Rawa.
Very funny dialogue !
Every society has disagreements, disputes and arguments between people and ideologies. A while ago Afghanistan was mainly using guns and bombs to settle their disagreements, disputes and arguments. Now they are using shoes to do so. A shoe fight is better than a gun fight. That is progress. And any progress is welcome.
Catfight in the legislature? Did their clothes come off??
Did you watch the clip?
I'm glad they didn't come off...
I bet its Au Naturale! Retro!
with my guilded spear
Id poke her
haha every culture needs their kardasians
This is what we need in our Congress!
in my point of view it is shameful for them instead solving the problem they create problem some of them always thank about our benefit
A former, female General in Afghanistan!!! I'm really surprised the Afghans have made it that far. The flying shoe was great drama.
As an Afghan, I feel so ashamed and embarrassed! Who even votes for such people to represent them? This is a shame! Those ladies/men who have no control over their selves should be kicked out of the Parliament. This is not a zoo, these people can't even control their anger so who gives them the right to even have such a position. So embarrassing.
It's all fine. You think similar things haven't happened in other parliaments? Nothing to be embarrassed about. It's good to see leaders that care enough to get emotional. They're humans too. I wish more of our leaders weren't so afraid to stand up for what they believe in.
don't feel bad, you should see the Taiwanese congress, this is NOTHING compare to the Taiwanese. lol, they go after their family after the fight. hahaha
أنت بتكفر بالله و بعدين تدعوه روح غسل ثمك يا نجس
And your name is 'amrullah?' Learn the meaning of that beautiful name, and try to act in accordance with it.
by who's definition was this a "brawl" ? I was expecting blood. Or at least a bruise.
LOL, I know. I thought it was going to be a real fight
Owww Heck–Let them duke it out. The winner gets to stone the other one to death–
I cannot believe we are risking the lives of our military for these people! Nation building? There is no nation to begin building from in Afghanistan. Leave that forsaken place to them, pull our troops (and money) out of there and stop putting our young men and women in harm's way in countries that can't do their own "fighting and dying!"
Shes bangin all right. But if all Afghan women acted like this theyd all be dead from the Taliban. Then their would be nothing to fight for except hairy, skinny Afghan men. The good ole US of A don't compete in no Brodeo.
That is how real men defend their nation from terany.
In America, we would rather be humiliated and sickened as as@ sniffing satellite wores for life, but it is to help you...ok...Cause this nation, not it's shameful government, would be to embarrassment, so it is easier just to keep sickening and terrorizing people so no Senator has to explain themselves.
Richie, you illiterate clown, what are you trying to say, before you show your as@ make sure you have something to say that is intelligable and you spell check your post. If you really want to discuss this come on out to Afganistan and we can talk otherwise if you're not happy with America there are plenty of places for rent in the Upper Gareshk Valley
Tired of commercials everytime I want to watch a news video!!!
Who are these two dogs fighting
Ask sarama and bhairava.
This is how democracy really works. U.S. Congress is dysfunctional.
I wish we had this kind of passion in our Congress!
right.........because leaders who throw things and get into physical altercations is sooooooo much better than leaders who talk things through and actually get things accomplished. I would be ashamed if our congressman acted this way.
"who talk things through and actually get things accomplished"
Who are these Congressmen who talk things through and get things accomplished? Certainly you're not speaking of the USA Congress here... And that goes for both Dems and Repubs.
"Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said the attacks were not carried out by the Pakistani army"
Kind of like how Osama Bin Laden was definitely NOT hiding in Pakistan, as stated by the Pakistani government repeatedly over the last ten years.
The Pakistani army may not have carried out such attacks directly, but there can be little doubt that the groups who are carrying out said attacks are being hidden and sheltered in Pakistan, by the Pakistani government. The afghan government has a legitimate grievance with Pakistan but lacks the resources to pursue the matter militarily without our support, support their not likely to get in the current political climate.
Surprise surprise what does one expect the people of all the Crapholeistans to behave like its not the 13th century?
Actually I wish the Senate and House was this interesting, then I'd watch C-Span. Instead of the politicians in DC wasting our time with the same old rhetoric, they could get into brawls and be like the WWF back in the 80s.
How do you say, "Go, Jerry! Go, Jerry!" in Pashto?
The language they are speaking is not Pushtoo but Dari – very similar to Persian. It is just sad to see that in a country where the US army has fought its longest war of its hitory – americans dont even know the very basics of that country. Ignorence is no defense WC and knowledge is power.
Please learn how to spell the word ignorance before labeling other people as such. Also, if we're trying to get technical here, the United States Military has been fighting in Afghanistan, not just the United States Army. It's sad we have Americans who have the right to run their mouths, but have absolutely no idea about the people and organizations protecting this right. There's no need to admit how asinine you sound since everyone reading these posts can obviously see.
Knowing what language they're speaking matters NOT. Matter of fact, this whole 'article' is crap. Quit trying to belittle other countries for not giving 2 squirts about the linguistics of one that hasn't progressed into the 20th century and cannot stop from trying to KILL KILL KILL themselves, their neighbors and anything else that moves. Primates.
Not ignorance, we just don't care what language you/they speak. We are not there to learn your language, although a lot of the military DOES speak it. We are there to pull YOUR chestnuts out of the fire. Please, be a little less condescending to a people who have given lives and treasure to help you.
It's not that we are ignorant, its just that we don't care. Besides, know that Afghans speak Language X instead of Y is useless.
Pashtu is the language of the majority of the Afghans, you ignorant and hateful Farsiban! Quit misleading the Americans, who are there to save your Persian A$$ so you can spread your lies and hate all over Afghanistan, and so your little friends in Iran and Pakistan can take over and offer you the price you are willing to sell your country for,
Oh, unless you meant that the ladies, and I know I am using the terms very loosely, are speaking Dari? I am not really surprised at their behavior. The best way to have two Farsiban fight is to put a dollar in front of them.
her mom must of threw her chanclas at her when she was a child...
1) I did not know she was a General. how is that? didn't the taliban ban women from everything before this?
2) why get physical? this was a discussion.
3) really? shoe throwing?
conclusion: PEOPLE, SOME PLACES ARE NOT BUILT FOR DEMOCRACY. It's like forcing communism on America. These people have been ruled with an Iron fist from ancient persia to mongols, to now. The do not get it. This "country" is still 90% undeveloped, and is STILL controlled by local tribal regions. If i'm right, England had the same kind of system 1,000 years ago. Afghanistan is still in the dark ages, why don't ppl understand?
Correct. And the US should have learned from its mistakes. Afghanistan cannot accommodate democracy, nor Iraq, and not Libya. Dictators are best for these people, otherwise religious oppression will ensue, like in Iran.
And sadly, even America might not be suitable for democracy. We can't even come close to balancing the budget because everyone wants money for themselves. If candidates don't promise more spending and less tax for everyone, then they don't get elected.
That is a BIG shoe!
That wasn't a shoe... it was her battery operated boyfriend
If only women ruled the world. Oh.
Taliban shot down a Nato-chartered plane. Sound like they implemented a no-fly zone in Afghanistan to protect civilians !
SURE the taliban protecting civilians? What are they trying to make up for their bombings, suicide missions, IED"S and even brazen attacks on civilians like their murderous attack on a bank where civilians who are working to make Afghanistan a better place for the people? THEIR A DISGRACE TO GOD THE FATHER AND HIS HUMAN FAMILY FOR THEIR INTENTIONAL KILLINGS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE WHO THEY BELIEVE GOD DOES NOT LOVE AND FOR SOME INSANE REASON GOD WANTS THESE ISLAMIC ANIMALS TO KEEP ON KILLING EVERYONE UNTIL THEY HAVE BECOME SUBMISSIVE TO THEIR IDEOLOGY!
Dan – You are WRONG. ASK to GINO STRADA who was in Afghanistan since the eightees. Google it. Thay had no problem with Taliban and were accepted even as non-muslims. Taliban killed 8 intruders on the helicopter, and I am delighted on that killing.
Since your so delighted on the death of people trying to help Afghanistan YOU are going to follow the Taliban and their terrorist allies to HELL! God will reward those who are trying to help the people of Afghanistan, BUT as for those who destroy their progress and intentionally kill people who do not want to be a part of the devilish things the Taliban and their terrorist allies do, they surely will be cast into the fiery pit forever! YOU ARE SO STUPID IF YOU THINK THAT GOD WILL REWARD EVIL AND CONDEMN THOSE WHO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE GOOD OF AFGHANISTAN AND THEIR PEOPLE!
They are not trying to help the afghans. Ask to the women of RAWA, as they ar fighting against the Taliban, against the Afghan army, and against the US military, like many afghans.
Your reply does not make any sense, JUST LIKE YOU!
Dan – I know my replies do not make sens for you, but they make sense for the neutral people.
RAWA are showing the US lies like Emergency and Wikileaks.
Tell me one lie that the US has said concerning their fight against the Taliban and their terrorist allies or for that matter what they want to achieve for the Afghan people?
The lies are about civilian casualties, the help for the afghan people (especially for women and children). Those lies are sistematically unmasked by the RAWA, Wikileaks and Emergency. It is not just one lie, almost everything coming from the US military is a lie.
Without the military invasion Afghanistan would still be a hopeless land!
Afghan women RAWA see no hopes until the US military invasion will not end.
What an accurate representation of Afghanistan
This article is missing critical details. Such as, were they hot?
... did they douse themself in oil or jello before they got physical?
THAT IS THE CALIBER OF LIFE WITH RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS, CAMEL HERDERS AND OPIUM GROWERS--WHAT ELSE WOULD ONE EXPECT??!
When the war will be over I would like to open a school for girls in the west, where some Taliban can come to teach.
just exactly w-h-a-t would those turban-heads need to teach here? THEY EXPORT MAYHEM AND TERROR-WE LIKE OUR OWN DOMESTIC ISSUES AND REVOLUTIONS-NO THANKS!
These goat herders don't know a thing about democracy – our boys are dying and we're dumping billions of dollars for this chaos – get out now.
Did they ask the military to invade their country. Who fault is it that we have a stupid government back in 2003 that don't know about the protocol of war. When you start something you should finish it not cut a run like some cowards. Remember we are fighting a war on terror (*roll eyes* whatever that means) not Osama Bin Liden so until terror ends the war will never end (only for people with common sense know that) maybe that is why when you have a war on something and not a country I guess it would never end. Like the war on drugs and the war on proverty.
I didn't know Afghanistan had butchie lesbians too. Amazing!
JUST WATCH ALL THE MEN SMILING WHILE PULLING THE CATS APART......WHO DOESNT LOVE CATFIGHTS?!
The woman who threw the shoe threw that thing hard, the woman who threw the water bottle threw like a girl.
That's all I got out of this video and the article.
Pathetic excuse for an article isn't it? And they call this "reporting". What a joke.
Well, the shoe thrower used to be an army general. It's only fair she out-throw a pansy civvie that was interupting her.
Water bottle has more mass – seriously, Ahmadzai's a wuss! She even had superior aerial deployed weaponry!
HAHAHAHA-LOL! POINTS WELL MADE-AND ON TARGET ALSO!
Awesome stuff. It seems like the Teaparty Movement is taking hold over there. Such class-reminds one of Sarah and Bristol Palin!
How about Jared Loughner? He's a liberal, you know.
I'LL GO WITH THE FIGHTING AFGHAN WOMEN ANY DAY-THEY HAVE A CAUSE. THE PALIN WOMEN HAVE SIGNS OF LIFE ONLY BETWEEN THEIR LEGS-THE BLOOD , APPARENTLY, NEVER GETS TO THEIR HEADS-THUS-THE DEFICIT!
Who let the cats out ? lol
I wonder if she will come play on my softball team with that arm?
The only way Afgans will achieve peace and freedom is to leave islam to rot on the stinking heap of humanity's worst memories along with nazism. islam doesn't even pass the religion test. islam is worse than nazism and communism combined.
On the contrary they need a harder version of Islam.
Nazis were not Muslim, and you say Muslims are worse than Nazis without giving any proof. Because a woman throws something at another doesn't make a religions bad. Use your brain.
Sir Islam is your worst nightmare cause the more you attack it the more it spreads it just drives you nuts doesn't it , Islam is based on principals that your materialistic self will never comPrehend all praise to Allah and may he forgive us of our sins and trespasses
Allah, ballah, schmallah. Do you believe in the tooth fairy also; or is this schmuck allah the only figment of your imagination.
Islam and it's false prophet who made it up is only concerned for power and as you can see now is still only fighting for power! If only the Muslim world would realize this they would understand it is this reason why you all have been fighting, not only with each other, but all humankind since it's inception. ALSO you all should know that this is the reason why GOD had banished the devil and 1/3 of the angles to earth AND this is what he came up with! THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS CLEANSED ALL OF THE HEAVENS OF FORCEFUL PEOPLE AND NOW AND FOREVER MORE WILL FLOURISH IN GOD'S LOVE ONLY!
Qur'an:9:88 "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause."
Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."
Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."
Qur'an:9:29 "Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission."
Ishaq:325 "Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious."
Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah."
Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Ishaq:324 "He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'"
Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them."
Ishaq:300 "I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good."
Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace."
Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."
Ishaq:326 "Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth."
Bukhari:V4B52N63 "A man whose face was covered with an iron mask came to the Prophet and said, 'Allah's Apostle! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first?' The Prophet said, 'Embrace Islam first and then fight.' So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah's Apostle said, 'A Little work, but a great reward.'"
You are distorting those verses those verses are related to the pagan Arabs who tried to annihilate the monotheistic faith of Islam. To all you white evangelical racists who mock the name Allah you are offending millions of Arab Christians who in their king James bible god is allah besides all the Jews who call god Allah . Everyday in the middle east anyone of all faiths refer to their deity as Allah . Talking to right wing Christians is like drawing water from a mirage. Deaf dumb and blind are they eqaul to those who see. If Islam believed in Wiping out Christians would they have lived as 2 to 5 percent minorities in these countries for centuries I think not. When I go home to visit Palestine and Jordan the Muslims and Christians are brothers and they live in peace .
i ASK you Mohammad why then do we here so much persecution of Christians within most every Muslim country? AND furthermore WHY and HOW can the Muslim world put Mohammad above the SON of GOD which is the only way to receive forgiveness along with the HOLY SPIRIT? Your so called prophet had put himself as the spirit of truth that according to the Koran was what Jesus had proclaimed would come to HIS followers after HIS resurrection and NOT some 600 years later to a new religion that unlike TRUE CHRISTIANITY has produced nothing but killing and war between NOT only those who do not belong to Islam, BUT also most of the Muslims throughout history! IS THIS THE WAY OF GOD AND his SON JESUS? ALSO if GOD has thrown the devil and 1/3 of his angles here to earth and not completely put them out of existence WHAT gives YOUR FAITH the authority to kill those of us who do not belong to your faith and FOR THAT MATTER the fallen angle and his followers? ARE YOU NOT SURPASSING GOD'S JUDGMENT AGAINST THOSE WHO WANTED TO OVER POWER GOD? IF THE KORAN WERE THE TRUE WORDS OF GOD THERE WOULD BE NO VERSUS IN IT AS WRITTEN BY petercha NOR WOULD HAVE CAUSED ALL THE WARS he HAS WRITTEN BELOW! GOD SURELY HAD KNOWN WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ISLAM WOULD PRODUCE AND WOULD NOT ALLOW GABRIEL TO RECITE TO YOUR PROPHET THE KORAN, WHICH ACCORDING TO MOHAMMED WAS RECITED 7 DIFFERENT WAYS! THE NEW TESTAMENT OF THE HOLY BIBLE IS THE ONLY WAY GOD WANTS US ALL TO LIVE SO THERE WOULD BE NO MORE POWER AND CONTROL OVER PEOPLE, BUT LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER AS GOD DOES!
Dan – You are wrong in many parts of your statement.
1 – Islam does not put Mohammed above Jesus, as all the prophets are equal and ONE in the spirit even with different bodies and characters. ADAM QADMON (El-Insanul-Kamil) is equivalent to all the other envoyeds.
Mohammd's prophecy completed the jesus one, like every prophet did before Mohammed.
2 – The violence never come from the prophets, but from their bad followers or "false doctors" like jesus said.
False doctors were present among the christians and among the muslims, as well as wars and violence.
Brought to you by "the religion of peace". There are many smaller jihads absent from this, but it covers the major ones:
The Jihad against Arabs (622 to 634)
The Jihad against Zoroastrian Persians of Iran, Baluchistan and Afghanistan (634 to 651)
The Jihad against the Byzantine Christians (634 to 1453)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Egyptians (640 to 655)
The Jihad against Christian Coptic Nubians – modern Sudanese (650)
The Jihad against pagan Berbers – North Africans (650 to 700)
The Jihad against Spaniards (711 to 730)
The Reconquista against Jihad in Spain (730 to 1492)
The Jihad against Franks – modern French (720 to 732)
The Jihad against Sicilians in Italy (812 to 940)
The Jihad against Chinese (751)
The Jihad against Turks (651 to 751)
The Jihad against Armenians and Georgians (1071 to 1920)
The Jihad against Mongols (1260 to 1300)
The Jihad against Hindus of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh (638 to 1857)
The Jihad against Indonesians and Malays (1450 to 1500)
The Jihad against Poland (1444 to 1699)
The Jihad against Germany (1945 onwards)
The Jihad against Rumania (1350 to 1699)
The Jihad against Russia (1500 to 1853)
The Jihad against Bulgaria (1350 to 1843)
The Jihad against Serbs, Croats and Albanians (1334 to 1920)
The Jihad against Greeks (1450 to 1853)
The Jihad against Albania (1332 – 1853)
The Jihad against Croatia (1389 to 1843)
The Jihad against Hungarians (1500 to 1683)
The Jihad against Austrians (1683)
Jihad in the Modern Age (20th and 21st Centuries)
The Jihad against Israelis (1948 – 2004 ongoing)
The Jihad against Americans (9/11/2001)
The Jihad against the British (1947 onwards)
The Jihad against Denmark (2005 Cartoon Controversy onwards)
The Jihad against Netherlands (2006 onwards)
The Jihad against the Filipinos in Mindanao(1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Indonesian Christians in Malaku and East Timor (1970 onwards)
The Jihad against Russians (1995 onwards)
The Jihad against Dutch and Belgians (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Norwegians and Swedes (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Thais (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Nigerians (1965 onwards)
The Jihad against Canadians (2001 onwards)
The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Australia (2002 onwards)
The Jihad against Latin America (2003 onwards)
The Jihad against Europeans (2005 onwards)
Religion altogether is the bane of humanity and should be wiped out.
Many of that wars were for self-defence.
Islam is a relatively young religion. Almost all modern relegions have gone through a violently turbulant "adolescent phase." Judaism had it, Christianity had it. Islam is no different than any other mono theistic religion. Go back to your cows.
Islam is a relatively young religion. Almost all modern relegions have gone through a violently turbulant "adolescent phase." Judaism had it, Christianity had it. Islam is no different than any other mono theistic religion. Go back to your banyard animals.
Wrong T – some religions did go through enlightenment and turbulent times but no religion or group of people has ever been SO out of touch with the rest of the world as islam. Islam is a cancer on the world and has no successive governments. They deny rights to women, gays, mentally and physically challenged and even to those they deem not islamic enough.
Did you know that our founding fathers spent 15% or more on fighting islamic terrorism? They had continual peace talks with these lunatics yet it never worked. From 700 AD on the world has been at war with islam because they subjugate people – they even have a word for it "Dhimmi". Google it. This is not just the pains of a young religion; this "religion" (death cult) has been around for 1300 years.
Spreading lies is typical of US propaganda. US founding fathers NEVER fought against islamic terrorism, as terrorism was started by the jews in the middle east against the British occupiers.
Agreed. Islam is the worst thing to happen to the world. Backwards, oppressive, totaltiarian theocratic regime. Christianity sucks too, but at least Christian countries have grown out of the dark ages by now.
Christian countries worsened after the midle age.
Funny but sad. Imagine the pressure on living the war for these 10 years not to mention their history of war and oppression. Makes me want to throw shoes for them.
That is awesome. Where was the jello? Although, it wouldn't have the same effect in those burkas ... Maybe guta cheese?
Those are not burkas. Those are Hijabs. Use your brain.
Dude. I really don't care if they are burkas, habibs, niqabs or anything else. It was a joke. I made an allegorical reference to Middle Eastern garb. And you got caught up on the particulars? Speaking of using your brain "Brain"man ...
Jerry Jerry Jerry .To our American allies , pull your troops out already ,thats the kind of sub people that you GI`s are dying for!
Yes throwing the shoe is very offensive in their culture. And to the dude saying islam is vile i believe that you are the vile one. The ignorance of so many amazes me. Your coments show that you and many like you are as ignorant and misguided as the extremists you talk about.
You're right, Islam is not vile, we are! Come on man, Islam encourages violence, death, murder, lying, abuse etc etc etc. Should I keep going? We as westerners have every right to condemn and criticize this religion and culture becuase it stands against everything we hold moral. Human life is important to us but to Islam, it is a vehicle to reach Allah and death is more welcome than life. Vile indeed Tank!
Wow you're stupid. You say "Islam encourages violence, death, murder, lying, abuse etc etc etc." as if none of that exists in Western society. Question: have you EVER met a Muslim, been to a Muslim country, read anything a Muslim has written or even been in the same room as one? If the answer is no, then you need to pull the self-righteous stick out of your butt and get educated.
By your standards, Christianity is the greatest plague on earth. Muslims are much better than Christians, at least their not hypocrites and ushered and era of arts and science under the Turks, Persians, Mughals, Seljucks, and Moors.
DR, this reply is to Joe:I don't know DR's answer to your question, but I have learned Arabic, studied Islam for over 20 years, and have worked among them for that long in this country and abroad. The religion is evil and their beliefs are VILE. So, my answer is yes I have met muslims and are disgusted by them. If they want to practice this religion, then have at it, but do it in the Middle East, not in the west and definitely not in this country.
كونك تعلمت العربية ترجم لنفسك هذا "أنت كذاب خبيث يا دي " ضع كذبك الوسخ في أقرب ثقب أسود
@seriously? Oh please! You are completely distorting the truth. The only contributions muslims have made to art is to break other peoples work of art. Pictures are banned in Islam. They are not allowed to appreciate statues. They are responsible for breaking so many ancient, gorgeous temples. Your claim that Islam advanced art is disgusting.
Reasonable1 – You are ignorant. Art is not just statues or figurative art. Inside Islam and Jews tradition Music is the prevailent form of art, and there are important reason for that You are unable to understand.
Anyway even figurative art is present inside Islam as they built incredible mosques, and they have a predilection for miniatures, the "arabesques" , carpets, and "arazzi"
Don't know whether to laugh or to cry. All our dead and maimed troops and these two are going fisticuffs in the aisles of parliament. I guess that's democracy – we've had some good slanging matches in our congress too. And the Afghans have/had a female general? You go girl!!! First glimmer of hope I've seen in a long time.
Now, it is time to get out of Afghanistan. We all were looking for a sign to tell us when to get out... but did not know what kind of sign to look for. This is it!!
a female general in the Afghan army? cool!
Asiatic-Muslim women were the first women to be warrior.
Wrong salerno – read your history. islam came around in 700 AD – there were many many other women warriors before that. The ancient greeks even wrote about the female warriors around at the real spartan kingdom, a good 2500 years BEFORE islam was invented.
Southrn- they were sporadic cases. anyway they were living in the same asiatic zones.
Additionally Islam did not start with Mohammed who was the last prophet, but with Adam Qadmon ( El-insanul-Kamil ), who was the first prophet of the cicle. There are even prophets completely unknown to the bible as they lived in the peninsula Arabica beforw Mohammed like Hod.
I see the potential for millions to be made by having the next MMA Pay-per-View event in Kabul, with half the bouts between women in full burka, anything goes, including shoe throwing & spitting; and half men from the Afghan Army. However, with them, the winner is whoever surrenders first!
afghans have never surrendered...they defeated the british, they defeated the russians, and now they pretty much beat the US...pack it up, time to go to Pakistan!
and who said they were oppressed?!
Well, Afghans may not be Arabs, but the whole shoe thing is offensive, so is the bottom of the foot. I have spent time in Kabul and many other provinces in Afghanistan and, although not very culturallty fluent, I was quickly made to understand the offense in the foot(wear).
What is it with moozies and their shoe throwing. When will these people ever become civilized and have a debate without violence.
Like who exactly, cause I see violence all over the world. If you mean like the U.S. us, then you are wayyyyy off.
Throwing a shoe in afghan custom is not an insult, we're not arabs. Seems it's the only thing she can use to throw hahaa.
And America is still in Afghanistan for Womens Right.
Thats very interesting about the shoe thing! Well its good to see that women in Islamic societies are gaining some freedoms to be in parliament and have a voice in the re-building of their country. Not all Muslims or Jews or Christians are fanatics and take things to the extreme. There are good and bad people of all genders, races, and religeous groups!!!
Then If thats the case MIchelle Bauchmann here take a good look at the bottom of both my shoes
They love to wing those shoes over there don't they? Let's get Tom McCann to start dropping shoes instead of propaganda leaflets and the people will be occupied for decades.
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
LOL now that's comedy :D
Rrrraaarrrr! Phhht! Phht!
Now this is how government should work...good job
Females are too violent, this is why Taliban rightfully impose some hard version of Sharia to them.
I pray that your a troll
Women must be controlled, they cannot be let alone.
Obviously, a Troll without a bridge.
@Salerno – why would you ever want to leave over half of your population subjugated, in fear, and uneducated? This is a main reason muslim countries never work. When you leave over half of your population (and the ones that are in charge of the children mind you) there s NO WAY you can compete with modern countries. Get with it dude, you have no place to say who can and cannot be independent. you are really starting to disgust me
Southrn- Muslim women are more educated than western non-muslim women, but their education is based on Sharia principles.
Salerno? Are you Italian?
kimbo – Why do you ask ?
Hmmm you have very strong opinions about women needing male supervision...and Salerno.
Kimbo – you got it right, my original country was Italy, but I do not live there anymore.
Throwing the shoe must be a popular Arabic offensive tactic.
Especially for women! "Oh, no! Not my Blahniks!"
It's actually HIGHLY offensive (not in a strategic battle kind of way, but a "you hurt my feelings" kind of way). Showing the bottom of your shoe to some one in the middle east, is basically berating them, telling them that they are worth nothing more than the dust on your shoe. Throwing the shoe is of the highest offense.
Yes, but Afghans are not Arabs.
What has this got to do with Islam? Your ignorance is vile
what because two women had an arguement makes islam vile, wow now weve seen your comments im curious as to what your face looks like.
one thingds for sure your probably ugly . lol
An argument in a legislative body doesn't make an entire ideology vile. If that was true then democracy is just as vile. You're probably to ignorant to know what 'Waving the bloody shirt' means. Google it.
Oh jeez, the ability to articulate in some people never ceases to amaze me. I'm also amazed that somebody that would make such a comment has enough brain power to be able to turn on a computer.
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