February 17th, 2011
11:09 AM ET

Opinion: Myths about 'unwinnable' Afghanistan

The future of the war in Afghanistan is hotly debated around Washington. Hearings are promised - the latest from Sen. John Kerry's Foreign Relations Committee - as a growing number of reporters, lawmakers and activists wonder why we are in Afghanistan and what the United States can gain by remaining at war in this remote, conflict-scarred and presumably ungovernable nation.

Look more closely at the conventional wisdom on Afghanistan, however, and it is clear that some facts have been left out of the well-trod arguments about the "unwinnable" battle that has become America's longest war.

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  1. Dindy

    salerno....ok fine. now keep quiet.

    February 23, 2011 at 9:16 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      I am superquite, and will never pay anything for what I told, as it is the truth.

      February 23, 2011 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Dan from Chicago, IL

    No worry, he will pay for his blasphemous remarks.

    February 18, 2011 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Jesus did not tell to worship his dead body.

      February 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dindy..

    salerno ...you cant cheat me or block my prayers from trying to pull me to debate over your funny insults. Go and find a crocodile to play with. Not me.

    February 18, 2011 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dindy – I don't want to block you. Go on with your grotesque and ridiculous religious farnetications !
      You are my entreteinment ! PRAY YOUR CADAVER !!

      February 18, 2011 at 12:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I mean pray your cadaveric god !!

        February 18, 2011 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        A cadaveric form will bring more dead bodies. This is the sense of your preyer.

        February 18, 2011 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        salerno....for your information....I dont bother to find the meaning even to your big words. My God is peace . So I am peaceful. Even in the midst of troubles I am at peace as HE is my God who is with me. All the soldiers who went to Afghanistan know their mission. Some have fallen. Yet they did it for a good reason that they believe in their hearts. Leave their souls in peace. Leave their families too at peace. Finally .....My God will give you the answer for your arrogant comments . I dont want to repeat those evil words 😦

        February 18, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        salerno..I already said that I am not your entertainer. Find a crocodile who has lots of time to entertain you.

        February 18, 2011 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dindy – you are so ignorant that do not realise you are the one cursing your god.!!
        Beeing so proud of your own ignorance is so comical.... This is why I told you are my enterteinment.

        February 18, 2011 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Dindy..

    salerno..Me Dindy once said that I dont care what you say about me as you are not my God. I thought at least you understand English. Man I laugh at you too every day,

    February 18, 2011 at 8:47 am | Report abuse |
  5. Dan from Chicago, IL

    Amen to that Dindy!

    February 18, 2011 at 8:13 am | Report abuse |
  6. Dindy..

    Bangash........I am not bothered about your Judgment about me because you are not my God. God says do not fear human. Also I have read whole Tripitaka and after anointed I have read whole Bible. Yet God is not a religion . God is a beautiful relation ship if one is sensitive enough to detect God"s voice.
    We work together . You dont know my life and the testimonies I have and tell people everyday . Former President Bush clearly said that he cant be Jesus . To become like Jesus one needs lots of disciplines. He had said it was really hard to take that decision. You and me have never faced what George bush faced.
    So what kind of a right we have to Judge him??
    If a true servant of God say something it happens as far as I know with my experience. That is all I know. I am not a expert in any religion. Yet I know one thing GOD is a living spirit and love us and is there for whom search for him day and night. So ..let my God judge on me as he brought me here from knitting in my Mother"s womb and who nourished me. You have no authority over me .

    February 18, 2011 at 7:39 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dindy – we are judging the stupidities you are saying and we are laughing at your ridiculouse god. It is a dead-body cult.

      February 18, 2011 at 8:37 am | Report abuse |
    • BANGASH

      DINDY You are surely sick because I am a human being and I can't be a God and have never imposed my will on you. I am putting facts before you to see your courage to asses and see the truth. For you and DAN it is easy to bring God in every political issue but for us GOD is our lord and help us only when we are right and have a just cause and exactly according to his wishes. If we are wrong and against his teaching then he will destroy us. So our GOD never support us in bad action however when we are right then we surely have his help even if we are too weak then USA. This you all will soon realize on Afghan soil.

      February 18, 2011 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Bangash....Do not come to teach me about God.....you are happy when Americans die and you are upset when the insurgents getting attacked by drones. soldiers know ...their mission when they go to war. coming from Sri lanka I know how innocent are these suicide bombers . Please take your preaching somewhere else. you guys are so good with using words from books and dictionary. Yet when it comes to real sacrifice .you guys are far away from the brave troops . Please do not insult the true heroes. I cancel all your curses here right now.

        February 18, 2011 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Bangash........see carefully....here you foretells every things....Now you talk about Afghan soil.......and if you are a human being how come you talk with authority over me and Dan? That is why I said you are not my God. Not because I am sick as you say. Thank GOD i have never been sick.
        Bangash .....one thing we will never know. That is the pain of the people "s souls who died on that terrible day and the pain of their families. Those souls are not at peace . They cry out for Justice. That is why we have no peace.
        So leave all these arguments and take the case to Lord and talk to HIM who has great wisdom . But not with me.

        February 18, 2011 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The people died on 9/11 should thank the US government for their death.

        February 18, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Dindy..

    Only Davies and God knows what really happened if there are no eyewitness who can speak the truth.

    February 17, 2011 at 9:22 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      But there are and they are also victims of these criminals in which the police found their watches on the dead bodies of these criminals. And they identified them as the two who stole their watches. If I had a gun and was about to be robbed by any criminals and thought that I could take them out without being harmed I would do the same thing.

      February 17, 2011 at 9:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Yacobi – as usual is right and the liar Dindy is wrong. Many witnesses saw the shooting and there is the coroner refert. 4 Pkistani died and they need justice.

      February 18, 2011 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      oH...WELL..THERE WERE EYE WITNESS AND ALSO HAVE FOUND OUT THOSE WHO WERE DEAD HAVE BLOCKED DAVIES CAR ....WHY IS THAT? why did they block his car on the first place? If I were there in Davies place I would defend too.

      February 18, 2011 at 7:45 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The trial will clarifie what you say. Probably Davies did not tell the true to save himself.

        February 18, 2011 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      well many have seen the shooting according to salerno...why did he shoot ? why did Davies shoot them ? because they were a threat to Davies. The people who came on Motor Bikes are not Police or some other officers from any Authorization.

      February 18, 2011 at 7:47 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      The trial will clarifie if they were a treath to the american. There is another innocent accidentally killed by another ambassade employee coming by car violating the traffic laws.

      February 18, 2011 at 8:31 am | Report abuse |
  8. Prophet

    Mercy is a very expensive word even in American trials, if a criminal is condemed to the electric chair there is always people claiming for mercy but its denied, this guy was in the wrong place and he knows it.

    February 17, 2011 at 7:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Mercy is usually given to those who have committed crimes worthy of capital punishment but admitted to the crime and gave full account of what they did in American courts, but they do spend the rest of their lives in prison without the possibility of parole. This is most likely why the blind sheik is still alive being held in an US federal prison, which he probably gave up names of co-conspirators of the "93" WTC bombing.

      February 17, 2011 at 9:28 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Prophet

    Sorry feel not fell

    February 17, 2011 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Prophet

    Punishment is different in every country, for some people maybe is to harsh but for some is very natural, any person that commits a crime has to know that he's going to be punished and if the punishment is hard is for a purpose so you don't dare do it, so don't fell bad for the people or the punishments because the criminal knows what he's gonna get. Don't do it if you can't afford it.

    February 17, 2011 at 4:52 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Dan from Chicago, IL

    How can one enjoy equality when you are cutting off fingers, noses, ears and tongues and also murdering people in the streets for the simplest of sine according to your consti-tution? May God have mercy on your souls?

    February 17, 2011 at 4:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      that should read sins not sine.

      February 17, 2011 at 4:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Davis was attacked by criminals who unloaded their guns on him and if a person admits his guilt and is remorseful there should be mercy upon him or her, but in many cases with the Taliban women were killed for just leaving the home without a male relative and/or leaving a marriage forced upon them by some consti-tutional law! AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD ARE WE SAVED THOUGH FAITH!

      February 17, 2011 at 6:27 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      These two criminals who had unloaded their weapons on Davis were found to have two watches that were stolen by them and identified by the victims as the robbers.

      February 17, 2011 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  12. BANGASH

    Has any invader ever won in the history of Afghanistan? Certainly not then how this invasion will succeed when last nine years have proved all US assessment of Afghanistan wrong. Three decades back when Afghanistan was not yet a war front in war between USA and USSR and Sardar Daud was ruling in Kabul, there was an ideal peace and despite absence of proper Govt rule every one was safe due to their strong tribal laws and tradition. In entire Afghanistan and Pakistan hardly 10% of the population had any weapon and the major weapon was British made 303 semi automatic Rifle while 90% had no weapon at all. Corruption was an ugly word and never existed.
    Unfortunately US strategic designs has changed whole situation and now Afghanistan and Pakistan are being used as a laboratory for testing of all US invented deadly weapons and world terrorism. Today whole world peace is at risk and here what the world particularly USA has got of theses deaths and destruction, is a terrorism every where in the world. This rise in hate against USA and West in this region has already been knocking at their doors which is leading the world towards to another world war. No doubt US MIC, corporatocracy and Pentagon will earn a lot however Americans as nation and whole humanity will be main losers. Neither in the past there is any winner in war nor any one can be in future. For Americans a new ray of hope can be the congressman Mr RON PAUL or Mr JOHN PERKINS as they are sincere for America and Americans and only they can put them on the right track otherwise Reagon has already put them on the path to the hell.

    February 17, 2011 at 12:18 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      America has the foundation built on Christian values and has followed those values throughout history even when we fall from those values but come back to them God remains with us and gets us through the hard times. As for the Taliban and their terrorist allies they follow the way of the devil and have always been on the path to hell, but the afghan people are now beginning to win their freedom from these devilish people and we will help them to be able to secure that freedom!

      February 17, 2011 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        America was not founded on christian values. It was a UK colony based on enslavery, and fought for his independency.
        Rampant consumerism and violence are the opposite of christianity. This is why in America the atheists are better than the christians, as they are false christians. True spirituality is the opposite of the average american. The only exception is partially the American Free Masonry. The only gainers from this war will be the military complex and the contractors. The average american will discover to be poorer and deceived. In the last 30 years the middle class average income in USA shrinked, while in other peacefull nation it increased.

        February 17, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Good Post Dan. Your faith about God make you strong to move mountains.

        February 17, 2011 at 9:14 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        Thank you Dndy, I do not know if you have read it, but Jesus said if two or more ask in his name and of course it is God's will then it shall be given to you. So I ask you to pray tonight that God make the mountains crumble in the tribal regions in northwest Pakistan where the terrorists live, plot and cross the border into Afghanistan to disrupt the ongoing progress that NATO, the ANA and the ANP are doing to provide the afghan people with a better future for themselves and their children.

        February 17, 2011 at 10:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • BANGASH

        I hope true Christians will respond to your this open insult of Jesus sacrifices for the mankind. DAN and DINDY you both I think intentionally misinterpret the basic teachings of Christianity the way Bush was using it for satisfaction of his personal animal nature. Luckily I have good study of almost all contemporary religions and I have found them guiding respective followers towards a better and prosperous life in their own conceived way but the ultimate aim is to make them a good human beings. Then how you can say that this occupation, bombing, killings and destruction in this region and killing of the children of God so mercilessly, is in accordance with the Christian faith. Don't be fool and do not make fool others. This is not US first attack in their life in this region and you both know that you are already working on taking these wars even to the stars under your star war projects. Your MIC needed maximum markets for maximum financial benefits all over the world. So this is your greed and your lust for power which you all wish to satisfy by using religion as a mean to get the desired results.

        February 18, 2011 at 4:04 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Bangash – you are correct. Dindy and Dan are the worshippers of a cadaverous pseudo-religion. Their God is a dead body.
        They are pouring new bite vinegar and gall on Jesus body and killing him a second time. They are just munafiq awliya shaytan.

        February 18, 2011 at 6:14 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan from Chicago, IL

        We can say that we do not indiscriminately bomb innocent people as does the Taliban and their terrorist allies,period! We go after those who want to conquer and destroy others way of life that do not want to be ruled by fanatical religious laws that are inhumane and against the human rights of the people! And if you think sharia law and punishments make people better, say that to those who are tortured or killed. God has a place for people like that and it is not paradise! We are helping the oppressed as they are the oppressors and will pay dearly for all their sins which is God's judgment!

        February 18, 2011 at 7:48 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you can say what you want, but you are a laughable dead body worshipper.

        February 18, 2011 at 8:26 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan from Chicago, IL

      Which was foretold as the anti-Christ and will be the great tribulation lasting three and a half years after the rapture of the church of Jesus Christ!

      February 18, 2011 at 7:57 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      3 and half years are not applicable in this situation, but the anti-Crists are people like you, worshippers of a cadaveric religion with relative dead body.

      February 18, 2011 at 8:29 am | Report abuse |
  13. Dan from Chicago, IL

    You are right Andrew we will make Afghanistan a nation for the people by the people to serve the people.

    February 17, 2011 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Andrew Lubin

    She's correct; Afghanistan was a succcessful country until their civil war in 1974 that led to the Taliban...Russians...Taliban. But Kerry and the politicians know this; instead of using Afghanistan as some sort of political whipping boy, they should look to the Marines in Helmand and see how VERY successully American efforts are proceeding.

    February 17, 2011 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |