CNN's Phil Black visits a school working to rediscover Afghanistan's musical heritage after decades of conflict.
Thanks and take care will talk to you tommorow, I'm in Panama were you correctly stated the american invasion, bye
Thanks Salerno but this is very confusing for me our religion is very simple and our Bible is very conforting to read, we don't have "Gods" nor any other images to venerate we only have One and we are prohibited to kneel in front of anything not even Him. He says that those who venerate images or statues made by man will become like them, lifeless. You cannot kneel or pray to some object made by man.
Prophet – right, Islam too is very negative about images and does not permit any rappresentation of Divinity for the reasons you esplained correctly. This is why Jewish and Muslims beeing nomads developed music more than figutìrative arts like paintings or sculpture. Hinduism is very complex and different as in this tradition images have an important role. This role was transferred to christianity, especially when their religion was propagated in the periferic little villages of the empire where it became mixed with the local customs. Christianity is a less pure religion for this reason.
sorry read "peripheral" not periferic.
Prophet – If you are jewish is ok. It is a regular tradition. God spoke to the Jewish like to other people in the way they could understand. Hinduism is the oldest tradition based on Veda and Upanishad (shruti). They correspond to the Bible old testament. There are other texts corresponding to the Talmud called Smriti. They are rappresented by the Purana.
Christians and muslims accuse hinduism to be politeistic, but politeism is just a degeneration of the true hinduism, like the greek pantheon. Hinduism is formed by 6 darshana (points of view of the doctrine) : Nyaya(logic) , Vaisheshika (analisis), Shankya (syntesis), Yoga (Union) Mimansa and Vedanta. Vedanta(metaphisic) is the highest part of the doctrine and was formulated by Ramanuja (Visnuism) and Shankara (Shivaism). Under the first doctrine Visnu appeared as a dolphine giving the sacred book to Satyavrata. This was the first avatara. the others were Kasupata (turtle) , Varaha (boar),
Narasima, Vahamanu, Parashu Rama, Rama Chandra, Krisna. Many think Buddha was the eight avatara, but not averyone agree. The tenth avatara will be the Kalkin avatara and it appear to be similar to the Mahdi of the muslims or the second come of the Christ. Shivaism is concentrated on Shiva and it seems having some correspondence with the greek divinity Dyonisus( Bacchus).
In other words, what is not possible is giving a christian justification for an aggressive war in another country resulting with the killing of so many innocent people.
Salerno just for your information I'm jewish and I have never heard about Hinduism
Salerno the only thing I don't like is your tone and harshness I understand your position and maybe agree with you but there are certain things that we can't control and can't be responsible for them, I'm not christian and I do not study their religion but I don't critize them, you are angry because of the collateral damage I understand and I agree with you on the people that become suicidal because someone killed their family but it is not Dans fault you sound like he's to blame we are here only to post our opinion not to blame anyone. Take it easy
Prophet – I too don't criticize religions, but their falsifications. It is not a matter of opinions but reality of the original texts that is manipulated, sometimes for ignorance, some other time with the precise purpose to spread the evil and the killing. This from both sides, but here the most rappresented is only one side of the religion falsification. So I am here to esplain that the violence and the war is what really makes it possible to train so many suicide bombers, and those supporting the war are part of this process.
read "are manipoulated" not "is".
Salerno it seems that you are the only religious person in the world and the only one that is right, well let me tell you that what you are doing is wrong, you can't be telling others that they are false, I believe you said before that you started being religious only five years ago so don't think you know because you don't know anything you use your books only to critize Dan and tell him very bad things, a person that talks the way you do is false and you are using your supposed knowledge only to bring people down, be a decent person and learn how to listen to others, I'm surprised that Dan and Dindy keep on talking to you.
Prophet – I never told that I started five years ago to be religious. I know the sacred books even in their original language, so I can easily recognize any falsification like those acted by Dindy or Dan, but even those acted by the false muslims.
I accept all the true orthodoxic traditions and religions, even the Hinduism, but unmask their falsifications without mercy as they are dangerous.
salerno fine. we are not brothers and also you say we are not Christians. I am not bothered at all. Because God only knows who I am and Dan . God created us and God only know us. Jesus told to forgive but Jesus too was angry when they had used God"s temple to sell things inside it. Jesus threw every thing and Jesus has told to become a voice for voice less. That is what USA did in Kuwait and North Korea and now does in Afghan. They have done all these things and what have you done? Only criticism. I call you brother because then only I can find out how you react.
Dindy – Jesus was angry with the people selling in the temple, but DID NOT KILL THEM like the american are doing even with the children ! Do you know how many children were killed by the US strikes in Iraq and Afghanistan ?? Everyone approving that or joining the US military is not a true christian, but the tool of the false christs as reported in Matthew 24 and in S. John revelation. So I am the voice of the victims of this violence caused by the US. You should learn from the Jewish the concept of sacrality, I fully accept the right of the Jewish to not recognize Jesus, but not your Satanism:
we are on the oppositwe side like Christ and the anti-Christ.
salerno......do not be quick to judge me or Dan ..because you really dont know us . Only God knows what is in our hearts . Dan is correct. Also you call other"s stupid which Jesus said is a sin which one can go to hell when call like that to others. This is a difficult period for every one as you see. So be humble brother. I think we are going through a test by God. what evr we speak is known by Lord. May peace of God with you and all of us!!! Amen.
Dindy – I am judging and condamning what you are saying and pointing out your contraddictions, as Jesus never approved the violence you are approving. Jesus told to love even the enemy. So you are not true christians.
Oh yes, even calling someone stupid is a sin as reported in the New Testament, but I am not claiming like you to be a christian, and you are not my brothers.
Dan and Dindy you have the Gospel in your lips only, but not really in your hurt. Dan was not aware about Jesus telling to be perfect like the Father. And even the Eucharistic meaning is not understood. Trinity is a process from the human point of vew, not an ontological quality of God who is ONE. This is why Jesus told to be perfect in the UNITY. The Father in me and I in them, so the Father in them, but this perfection comes only when the Holy spirit come after the Eucharistic ritual and the interior work.
I am Not Catholic salerno and I do not believe in rituals, for God/Jesus knows whats in a persons heart and that's what matters. Not what you know that matters. He says in other words you can have all the knowledge but without Him it will do you no good, just like money it's worthless!
Dan – if you do not follow the rituals you are not christian. Protestant are heretics, not christians. Only the ortodox from Russia nd Greek and the catholics are cristians, and often even them, especially the Catholics are false christians. The really true Cristians are the greek ortodox living on the Atos mountin called esichyasts.
To be more clear one of the false Crists reported by Matthew was Lutero the reformer of christianity, as rituals are one of the 3 ingredients of a religion. No religion can exist without rituals. So every false Crists has his false christians as followers.
sorry it is February 14th
Dan well written on FEBRUARY 24TH 7.53AM
Jesus told:" BE PERFECT LIKE YOUR FATHER"
Matthew Gospel 5.48. So Dan I was right and you are a liar ignorant even about your supposed religion.
Jesus is telling his followers a very hard thing to do and that is to love your enemies to be perfect like your Father in heaven, But elsewhere note the He says also that love your enemies and God shall throw heaping coals of fire on their heads. And I tell you that Omar, Qari Hussein, bin Laden, al Zawahiri and any other Islamic extremist are from Islam as most of the western world are Christians and most of us in the west do not hate Islam but many Muslims hate Christianity as you see from the persecutions of Christians and Churches in many Muslim countries, but you don't see that happening to mosques in the western world, just between your own brothers.
And tell me God the Father is in them people?
Dan – so why you do not listen Jesus teaching and let God punish the responsible ? If somone wants anyway try to hit the enemy, at least should avoid innocent deaths, as Jesus was very hard toward those who hurt a child.
There is a specular violence committed by false muslims too, but as Bangash told they are 2 faces of the same coin. They are pagans disguised as believers, like the americans.
You mean you can sit at your computer and tell me NATO forces are killing innocent people without remorse or not of well planned targets of the enemy while the enemy will put on suicide vests or ride in suicide car bombs to intentionally kill as many people as possible? Your acting like America is more responsible than those who killed 3000 innocent American lives! IF BANGASH wants this to stop he should get on the right side of the coin!!!
Your right avoid killing innocent lives! Tell that to your people that you are defending, they just sent another suicide bomber to a Kabul shopping mall in hopes to kill many people but only killed two, one guard and one civilian, I wish you would put the blame where it belongs, on the Islamic extremists murderers who started this war!!!
I am telling to my people wich are the american and the european taht tey are killing innocent without hitting the AlQaeda leaders. This is why there is no right part of the coin and I saty with Bangash out of the coin, but he is not my people, as we have not common language if not english and different country and traditions. Those who killed 3000 americans were Atta and few others and are all dead. There are few others, may be 30-50 involved as helped them, including Bin Laden, but they should be targeted by police and investigation. Even Mladic and Karazic are free, but nobody is bombing Serbia as it should be criminal.
Well I am sorry, i am going to pass on your invitation. I like my drinks on the rocks and I and all my relatives are awaiting Jesus' second coming for our rise to heaven!
Dan – you are like the pharisees hypocrites who had God just on their lips, but not in their hearts. You are a false christian and even an ignorant one as you ignore most part of the Jesus teching and of the Bible. You even asked me where Jesus told to the people to be perfect like his Father !!!
Dan is not anyone as you say salerno. Dan loves Jesus and that is why he is here writing everything about Jesus ..
You both support the baby killers, and Jesus told to love not to kill. How can you espect to be rewarded ? You are hypocrites !
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DINDY every religion on the surface of this earth claim of making us a good human beings. Now in this new millinium in this internet age I think every human being is capable of making the difference between good and bad in his surroundings. You will be surprised to see that every human being every where in the world will be purging his surroundings of similar filth and then this world will be a world of all. These questions of being Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus have been with us since centuries and also we see where we are standing then why not we all follow one common path to become a good human being, full of love and affection. I think in this way we can kill two birds with single shot. I mean this way we will not only fulfill our respective religious obligations but will also make the world a heaven, a global village, free of wars , deaths and destructions
Well said, Bangash.
Well BANGASH it all sounds good but their is a lot of filth living just east of your tribe and it seems they cross the border with impunity back and forth to kill and resupply and return to kill again. The NATO and ANA security forces continually deal with this problem to try and make Afghanistan a secure and safe place for their people. If you and your tribe would help in some way, maybe only intelligence they could stop them from crossing in that part of the border and less killings would be the result.Sometimes the people have to stand up to the terrorists whose intention is only to kill!!!
Dan – Bangash already esplained, they can't control the border. They are targeted and bombed by US and this is not the right way to deal with the situation USA and Pakistan military have the tools and the resources to control the border, and should do it without indiscriminately bombing. I hope they can talk with the US military and reach a truce.
I did not hear any explanation of why they cannot help NATO or the ANA to stop the border crossings. What I did hear is that America is to blame for three decades of war which is totally untrue. We did help to supply the Muslims to defeat the Soviets in the late 80's but we were not involved in any internal conflict until late 2001 when the Taliban refused to give up al Qaeda leaders that they were harboring which turned to war with them and then for there explicit help in allowing al Qadea to escape and the afghan people wanted freedom from their terrorizing and murderous rule over the people!
The border is long 2400 km. and they have no way to controll, especially if the evil americans are bombing them. Thare are all Nato country and USA military, the Pakistan military; what they are doing other than killing innocent people ? NOTHING. The AlQaeda leaders are untouched, and even Taliban cannot control them. No surprise, you barbarians are so hated by the people.
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I could never blame you if you're not living by Mantra, never do I. I'm not a soldier and you can NEVER be one. You don't have the balls to become one. Those two malformed oblongs in between your legs were nothing but a shock-absorber between your useless butt and that old seat your sitting while punching that dusty keyboard, spewing hate and insults undermining the bravery, loyalty, patriotism, heroism of those men and women who risk and give their lives for their sworn duty to God and Country through this board. And you know? you can even do it properly, with those spelling and grammtical errors. I had no intention to slap it your face coz I'm not a good writer either but for God sake, you have been claiming here and in other blogs that you came here after world war with your father who was a Professor at Penn State University but I didn't see a single correct one without any presence of those errors. Your father as a Professor was certainly an honorable man and his students had a high regard for him.
Had your father still lives and read those erroneous posts you've made he might disown you. I just hope that none of his students read even one of your posts that you may not disgrace your father's good name, honor and legacy.
Let me add here that YOU are not perfect, neither I nor IS. We have our own weaknesses, infirmities and dark sides. YOU must realize it.
The least (good) thing that we can do is appreciate good things and to see good things in other people; be civil;
stop the hate; and show some RESPECT.
My father is dead and would not agree with my ciriticism, as he was enthusuats abot USA. I was too, but recently there is a deterioration in politicians and in people. I hope something will change, but hope America will stay strong
America surely will always be strong especially against terrorists who kill American lives and destroy American interests as well as their allies. The terrorists will lose in their jihad against the western world, if it takes divine action they shall be defeated!!!
America is weakening, and 9/11 was the prrof.
The point is not if I am courageous or not. Courage is not required by american soldiers to go to war as they have high tech equipment largely superior to those of the enemy. They have just less than 2% probability to be killed or severely injured, slightly more than other jobs, not a great deal.
The father and the sun are not exactly the same. The Father is also inside everyone of us. This is the final Jesus teachment.
Jesus said:" be perfect like my father ". He allowed his disciples to be like him and having the father inside.
Read John20:21 -23 here he states nothing of the kind but as I said that he gave His disciples His Holy Spirit to forgive or not to forgive the sins of mankind. Nowhere does He say to anyone to be like Him and have the Father inside, but please tell me where you read His last teachings, I have read three different versions but i have moved at least 15 times in my life and can only find this new King James version and the last teachings I read is that which I have wrote above and I want to be sure I do not miss anything.
Gospel S.John 17 is the highest point of the christianity. It is the moment when Jesus not only was able to read in the Book of the Life like said S. Jiohn in the Revelation, but was effectively WRITING in this Book. He used the word " I WANT" not I pray, when he said : I want those people you gave to me beeing with me where Iam. And also before : "in order they could be ONE like US.
I inside them and you in meto be PERFECT in the UNITY.
First off salerno Jesus never wrote anything in the New Testament of the Holy Bible, it was written by scribes of the disciples and Paul who wrote many letters to the gentiles who had faith in Jesus as their Savior. I read John chapter 17 where Jesus talks to the Father about His disciples and that they are not of this world, but in Him and He in them. No where does it state that the Father also is in them!
Jesus like any other prophet did not write anything, prophets NEVER did. I did not tell Jesus wrote anything.
You are wrong about your last statement. If the Fatjer is in Jesus and Jesus is in the discioles, it means that the Father is in the disciples. IDIOT !!
SO they can be ONE like US.
The Father is not in anyone except Jesus my friend but you will see Him when He will judge you. Jesus will judge many, those who hold God's love in their hearts, but as for those who don't and are mean spirited, always breaking God's commandments without repentance, Like killing and lying, will be judge by the Father and He will be a lot less merciful than our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! May you learn the love of God and not be so mean spirited and stop the lying.
Dan – the Father God is everywhere, so He is also inside us. The problem is the " PERFECTION IN THE UNITY" and the "I IN THEM AND YOU IN ME" that is realized in the eucharistic ritual. This is the mistery of the christian faith. The judgment will come later.
salerno,if God were in all of us then there would be no David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh or Osama bin Laden. He surely would have given them a vision in a dream before they did their deadly deeds, of where they would be going to after this life! As you think about it the world would be living in perfect unity because God would have us all thinking like Him with great love for everyone! Jesus says in John 15 I am the true vine and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit He takes away and every branch that bears fruit He prunes that it may bear more fruit. If anything Jesus is in all of us but you must abide by his word to bear fruit, as you read on in chapter 15.
Dan – God is everywhere by definition, otherwise He would be limited and not infinite. So God is even in the evil men like you or Hitler.
God is in all of us, not Jesus. Jesus is for the christians and the muslims.
Dan – the original greek text says:" o de patèr o' en emoi menon poiei ta erga autos". The father, who is in me, makes my works. How can you be so stupid to confuse Jesus with Yacobi ?
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And surely the Father would not have us punish the sinner so severely without mercy for even the simplest of things such as non-belief of others beliefs! God will sort out the good from the bad not any 360 man made cult!!!
Jesus is not the Father as he speak with him in several occasions, and speaking requires 2 different persons.
Can you show where Yacobi is proclaming to be a levites and justifie the sins ?
Well he or she said the Levites were the ones to judge and hand out punishment to the Hindus(criminals)of trinity from pharisees(deception)or something of that nature so as you read above he or she believes that their 360 cult has the right to hand out the punishment. Well I tell you the truth God will hand out the punishment to both the Pharisees and the 360 degree cult because they come from the same vine that bears no good fruit and shall be thrown into the fire to burn forever!
Dan – every country must have somone punishing people for violating the law. The problem is that must be done in your territory not outside like the USA and withouth killing innocent like the USA is doing now.
S. John 14.28 "The Father is bigger than me" Jesus words.
Dan You can't understand this becouse you are not a true christian but an anti-cristian like those reported in Matthew 24.
You must be talking about the Taliban their the ones who would beat their servants not knowing when the master will come!
No I am talking of you. Taliban are muslim, not the false christian reported in Matthew 24.
Muslim huh? Do you mean Islam the religion where the pagan Mohammad who used the Bible and prophecy from Isaiah meant for Jesus to proclaim it was for himself and also what Jesus said for the coming of His Holy Spirit but again proclaimed it to be for himself? Now there you go one of the false prophets talked about in Mathew 24, salerno! And for your information that chapter does not talk about false Christians just false Christs like Jones or Koresh.
Dan – Mohammed did not use the Bible. He revailed the Quran. We are not yet in the last days described by Matthew and John revelation, but False Crists are cited in a plural form and it is told they will deceive many. So the many will be the false christians like you. All the king of the earth and many nations will persecute the believers in the name of the false Christs. Terrorists are not the kings of the earth ! Mohammed cannot be a false Christ, because he is Mohammed.
NO I SAID MOHAMMAD IS A FALSE PROPHET AND JONES, THE GUY WHO TOOK HIS FOLLOWERS TO AFRICA AND HAD SO MUCH POWER OVER THEM MAKING THEM BELIEVE HE WAS THE CHRIST HAD THEM ALL POISON THEMSELVES, SOMEWHERE ABOUT 250 DIED AND DAVID KORESH IN WACO, TX ALSO HAD THE SAME CHARISMA OVER HIS FOLLOWERS AND CAUSED MANY TO DIE. THOSE TWO WERE FALSE CHRISTS.
Dan Mohammed was the last prophet as recognized by billions of followers. Islam is the most complet and deepest tradition with a lot of leterature from Avicenna, Averroè, Rumi, Ibn Arabi, Gazhali, El Jabir, known as Geber in the west, the father of Alchemy, who inspired the modern science, influencing Newton and Leibnez..
Little I know about the others, I don't know if they claimed to be prophets, but it is possible they were false prophets or doctors.
Additionally, Saddam was provided with WMD by USA, so you are always responsible like for Afghanistan as you created your enemies and kill the innocent people through them or directly. URSS was an arrogant power, but USA is becoming more and more the real cancer in this new world. The evil ideology of power, money and consumerism under the fiction of a false christianity.
You can sit there and judge the United States of America but as I said Jesus will judge all nations and America will shine for all it has done for the world! As for you, you can stand up for Cuba, Nicaragua, Serbia and Sudan along with all other oppressive nations and peoples and God will be the judge of you!!!
I stand up for the innocent people murdered by the americans as they are often censored and cannot speak, I don't stand up for any countries. I cited the gardener killed in Sudan, not the Sudan government. Additionally JESUS will not judge the nations, but the individuals, IDIOT !!
Read Mathew 25:32-36.
I know all the sacred books of the different traditions, and see that you must read better the writings of your supposed religion.
Yacobi is right again. Even in the Bible is reported:" The father who is inside me does my actions". S. John gospel 14.10.
Dan – USA not only armed the rebels, in South- Central America but sent some covered agents to fight in Cuba, Rep Dominican, Nicaragua, and may be in other countries. I saw big anti-american sentiment in those people. USA is more dangerouse than Hitler because they have a more effective policy. So your father or grandfather did very well from your point of view as he went where the Nazism will have better future.
Lebanon villages were bombed by Reagan in 1985, killing even christian civilians.
Serbia was not the aggressor as Kosovo was part of Serbia and it is becoming independent now. USA was the criminal aggressor of Serbia. Clinton bombed Sudan killing a gardner in late 90ties.
BANGASH is the only sincere person I can see here. I point the attention on his or her last phrase :" not see any anti-american as pro-Taliban, as for us all pro-war are ours, yours and everyone's enemies". I fully agree on the humanitarian reasons to be anti-war, I don't care about religions, just reply when people make false statements about them.
I bet on the value of your traditions, and would like to know more. I often listen the Pakistani sufi music by Sabri brothers or others like the dance cosmic, it is very spiritual one.
Salerno I will love to let you know of our traditions but it may not be possible here in such limited space however let me make you asses that we about more then 4 millions on 2400 KM long border with Afghanistan have never been allowed to live according to our tribal tradition for the last two centuries but despite this we are there as an in-ignorable reality. Secondly for the last two centuries we have not been allowed to get education or live under well disciplined Administrative set-up to live a disciplined life as the then British and today US imperialist would then had a problem in exploiting our ignorance and poverty in their global strategic designs. So whole world had/has been against us not for some sins on our part but for their nefarious designs but despite this we have good doctors, engineers, scholars etc and above all our high spirits that we have survived and will soon change the history. We tribal traditionally fight with reason not for fun therefore in absence of proper Administrative set-up we were responsible for our own security therefore had common principle of help the innocent and fight aggressors every individual had a clear line of action. This was the reason that in major survey reports Tribal belt had been the most peaceful and prosper region with comparatively lowest crime rate, better then New York. Last three decades though has changed demographic situation but despite all odd one cannot find 2% tribal associated with terrorism however the silence of 98% tribal is mainly due to their confusion as they see no difference between Taliban-Alqaida and USA as both have similar agenda of killing of innocents in the name of collateral damages. Tribal are capable of dealing with these few local mercenaries but hey cannot fight the whole world therefore like chickens in a cage waiting fir a turn to be slaughtered either by militants or by US bombing. So this is unfortunate and every one will have to pay if closed eyes to this greater human tragedy in this age of globalization.
My best wishes for you Bangash. I am very sad that the war is not allowing you to address the problem with AlQaeda.
I hope people would understand the mistakes America and Nato are doing, so this war could end.
The 1st Iraq war started when the late Saddam Hussein invaded Kwait. When the US's (and Allies) Operation Desert Storm successfully threw Saddam's butt out from Kwait and the peace was restored in the entire Saudi Arabia and the people there demanded independece US troops was withdrwan. Saudi and US became "close" allies since then.
The 2nd was just a complete mess of both personal and business (oil) conflict of two clans of two different nations. An unfinish business between Saddam and older Bush that was assumed and finish by Bush Jr.
It was horribly a waste of brave souls and should never happen. President Barrack Obama "must" withdraw US troops from that senseless war at once.
In case of Afghanistan, it was not and I hope it won't and never be a war between Afghanistan and US. US troops were deployed to pursuit Bin- Laden who claimed 9/11. And I hope it would be clear to salerno that in this case the US was the one retaliating because of the "direct" attacked by terrorist such Al Queda that cost thousands of "innocent lives." And what Al-Queda did was a pure horrific act of terrorism and could never considered as retaliation in.
US Military composed of brave men and women are at war because of there sworn duties to God and Country. They are maybe used with the wrong cause but it's because of their loyalty and living by the mantra, "Obey first before Complain."
"Obey first before complain" was the Hitler mantra too. Hitler would be enthusiast having these kind of soldiers. It is not my mantra, because I am really free and have my concience.
The least (good) thing that we can do is appreciate good things and to see good things in other people; and
stop the hate and show some respect.
myklds – ok. My father died in1992, and he would disagree with me as he was enthusiast of America. I was too, but my opinion is that USA situation worsened greatly after the end of Soviet Union. There is still a sound part and people in USA.
I appreciated that some responsible for the Abu Graib tortures were condamned, and would be better if even the supperior giving orders would be, like Rumsfield. I hope USA will change but remain strong.
mykids........very well answered. Thank you.
Afghans have great love for music of their own and their own national dance Athanr is compulsory on two occasions. First during marriage ceremonies one can see the enthusiasm, interest of youngsters is really enjoyable. Second occasion is no more existing however three decades back when this region was safe from the evils of USA and USSR then Afghans use to dance(Athanr) while forming Lashkars(Assembly of armed Afghans for national cause) before attacking the evil forces in their respective regions. This dance and music is in blood of every Afghan which no one can change. However this attempt, the visit of CNN Phill Black , is in fact projection of an American musician teaching American music to Afghans to Americanise Afghan Music which is a futile exercise and the only difference it can make is that this American musician will learn a lot from Afghans and will add to their own one.
Come on now BANGASH how can you call America evil when the fact is most Afghans want freedom from the Taliban and their terrorist allies? And as you see from the Middle East freedom is God's given right for every human being that if the ruling powers of every country would allow the people to demonstrate their right for it and not suppress them the world would be a free one ruled by the people and not some dictator, theocratic ruler(s) or autocrat
DAN Salareno has rightly answered on my behalf that you are below average so I will ignore such stupid things but will definitely remind you that USA/ NATO are here since Dec 2001 while I am telling you of the last three decades. Look What I mean to convey is not that I am bagging of your mercy as you civilized world have left nothing with us we will look for. Why DAN you ignore that you have made our lands and hill a laboratory for all your newly invented weapons of your MIC. Our whole FATA region is divided between all above mentioned world powers and we all the original tribal are under siege. So how we can know that who is passing through our areas. This is our conclusion based on three decades long US wars on our soil That OSAMA and Obama are one for our death and destruction. Both are killing us in the name of GOD therefore now GOD has to make justice and you all will see how these big one are humiliated for their unfair dealing with these innocent tribal.
Dan.I think.we have to .leave these guys who talk negative about Afghanistan alone.
Bangash.....good post. But we have to first make atmosphere to practice that common path globally!!
Bangash – I have a lot of respect for you. It doesn't matter if you are pro-Taleban or not, as I am neutral under this point of view.
I had a chance to to to Afghanistan in 1983 as a doctor and had a friend working with Gini Strada. When the Taliban took power
they questioned the Emergency hospitals, but they were allowed to work. They had more problems with the US military becouse they are neutral and give therapy to all the people. When the americans closed 2 hospitals the Afghan people protested, so the could be work again. If you are really neutral even the Taliban respect you. The problems is the american ideology.
Your such a liar salerno in 1983 the Soviet Union were in power and where did you go to school to be a doctor? Lie some more, it burns more!
I graduated in my original country. I don't care about Soviet Union. I always lived in the west, Italy USA, Rep. Dominica, UK and traveled in almost every continent.
Why then don't you stay in northwest Pakistan, they'll need doctors like yourself come this spring. So you would be helping what you believe in and stay out of the western countries because their policies are against your beliefs or are you a hypocrite and just go where you can make the most money and don't care about the needs of the people? Anyway you say you were in Afghanistan in 1983 and American forces closed 2 hospitals, how could that be when we were not there until October of 2001? Special forces may have dropped in arms and supplies but I doubt very much that we had foot soldiers on the ground. We would have never left and let the Taliban to take over. We would have helped the Northern alliance to defeat them.
Dan – You are too concentrated on my personal story, but I did not work as a doctor even if graduated. I never went to Aghanistan, but around 1983 had to make a choice if to go or not. I stay in the west as I was born here and for security reason, I don't like the wars. I never told the 1983 was the year when the American forces closed the Kabul hospital and the Lakhsargi hospital. It was done in 2002-2007, you can search the exact date if you are so interested, I was not there.
We here in America do not like wars either and for you to compare us to the Nazi's is just idiotic. You say we attack many countries in south America which is false and you cannot name one and you also say we attacked many central American countries and you did name one, Cuba which also is false. If we attacked Cuba they would no longer be communism but we did support rebels who tried to defeat Castro but failed and we also supported rebels in Nicaragua and now they are a free and democratic country. As for any other country in the Americas we never pursued any military conflict! We never attacked Lebanon just sent peace keeping force there but were attacked. In Serbia we were defending against the aggressor, in Vietnam we were trying to stop the spread of communism, in Iraq everyone had bad intelligence that Saddam had WMD, but what he got he deserved for the murdering of his own people and just today they found another mass grave of 153 bodies most likely from his rule! The problem with Iraq today is the same as with Pakistan and Afghanistan; terrorists who kill for power and control over people, otherwise you would have free and democratic governments elected by the people instead of forced upon by the gun or suicide bombers which are not made by US policy but by brainwashed kids from terrorist leaders who are cowards who would not do it themselves!
Salareno thank you for respecting me. But what I say here in my comments is purely on humanitarian grounds as I am from the area between Afghanistan and Pakistan, generally known as FATA and for the last three decades constantly observe this death game at our soil and believe me we are not what we have been made today. We being tribe men have very valuable traditions and respect for human beings but you all know us as the stronghold of Alqaida. In entire FATA no one can find even 2% of tribal involved in terrorism but whole world including USA, Ruusia, China, Uzbakistan, India, Iran, Germany, France, Saudi Arab, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, Sudan etc all have their nationals among these Talibans or Alqaida and all them were settled in this region with the consent of their respective states and nations either for war US war against USSR or for this day to establish strong military bases for longer and larger regional interests. For us today every one talking of wars are our enemies as we are fed up of decades long sufferings. Today we hate all whether they are Taliban-Alqaida or USA as all are responsible for where are today but USA being major player get major share therefore Salareno I am a victim and cry before you all to show the real culprits for this unfortunate and inhuman situation which has now faced whole world with miserable situation. US dollars and weapons are main fuel for fire in this region therefore every one see America the main reason behind their miseries. So Salareno you should not see every anti American as Pro Taliban as for us all pro wars are ours, yours and every one's enemies.
BANGASH I am sorry to hear about your situation, it sounds like your stuck between a rock and a hard place. I do have to ask you though do you allow the passage of the Taliban or terrorists through your area to attack NATO and ANA forces?
Dan – your asking to Bangash silly questions is showing your total incapacity to understand the situation. You have under-average intellectual faculties to to this.
What is silly? If he and his tribe are helping the Taliban and terrorist passage through their territory then they to become targets for helping the enemy!
Dan – the Taliban do not need any help for passage through that territory. IDIOT ! There is no authority there with the power to contrast the Taliban. You have satellites and your soldiers can fight the Taliban when they are passing the border.
There is very rough mountainous terrain there in the border area between Afghanistan and Pakistan and i doubt if our spy satellites can pick up a group of men trying to pass through the border otherwise we would have stopped it a long time ago! And why do you have to answer the question a half a world away? Why does he not just answer?
The terrain is large and rough even for them without so much technology.
BLAMING ON EVERYTHING......HOW EASY ......HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HELP TO GIVE A BETTER LIFE FOR AFGHAN PEOPLE .
No respect for baby killers !
I just listen what people say, don't care about their family or their country.
May God protect innocents civilians in Afghanistan and please lord bless them in abundance!!! Amen.
Dan – the only killing machine is rappresented by anomals like you.
Another suicide bomber in Kabul shopping mall kills one guard and one civilian and who is the animals?
Suicide bomber sacrified his life because he hated the enemy killing his people. He wanted revenge and did not care if innocent are killed along with the enemy, as the enemy is doing the same. These suicide bombers were created by the US operations of the last few years, so the USA are the real responsible creating and supporting the suicide bombers.
Your just as sick as the suicide bomber to try and explain their insane stupidity!
Dan – I do not try to esplain I just esplain. It is remarkable that suicide bombers are active in the countries attacked by the USA: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan,. They are not in Egypt or Tunisia. They were not in Iraq during Saddam time and they were a lot less frequent in Afghanistan even during the Taliban-North Alliance war. If the US will attack Iran, we will see many suicide bombers there too.
All @ssholes above me is just jealous what NATO and USA is doing for us.
We [Afghan] people are very happy from NATO and the USA what ever they are doing for us!
why you all are so jealous ? or the main question is, when you guys even thinking and commenting about Afghanistan in the first place ?
Afghanistan is for Afghans, if something is going wrong, why you are commenting on it ? only Afghans deserve it !!! not Pakistani or Irani or Indian.
if USA/NATO is distroying Afghanistan, so what ? it's none of your concerns, just sleep in your own country and don't interfere !!!
Afghanistan is happy without your comments, you stupid Pakistani/Irani. Just back off and let USA be in afghanistan.
If Afghans wants USA/NATO to be in Afghanistan then Pakistani/Irani should never open their mouth and talk about Afghanistan!!!
Afghanistan is Afghanistan and Afghanistan is not capital of Iran nor Pakistan, so Back off Jack@sses and stop being an @ss.
Thanks NATO and US for the helps and FOOK Irani and Pakistani 😉
Riza – war is not a private thing, so we have the right to comment. Not everyone in Afghanistan is happy for american military iun the country and you may even not be a real afghan.
And you salerno may not even be a real person, just a blog on a piece of paper!
salerno, i have to act like a terrorist to be a real afghan ? or what ?
If you live in Europe or ..., if doesn't mean you are better then us [afghans], There are afghans 100 times better and highly qualified and educated then you. so stop being an ignorant and acting like an stupid.
Just wanted to remind you all, it's none of your concerns. Afghanistan is for Afghans and Afghans will decide who should stay in Afghanistan.
Right now War is a private thing for Afghans, we started it and we will finish it and everything happening in Afghanistan is decided by Afghans.
Afghans decided and will allow USA to remain in Afghanistan for ever and USA/NATO will have permanent military base as our President Mr.Karzai mentioned and agreed.
We are good/happy with US/NATO and we are glad having them in Afghanistan then having some stupid Pakistani/Irani Terrorist spreading ISLAMIC terrorist tactics to blow themself to get 80 virgins, they won't get a SH!T if they blow themself, maybe Irani/pakistani people will get coz they are the main terrorists. not AFGHANs!!!
Please stop commenting about others problem, it's not your problem and not your country and you have no right to comment about Afghanistan.
If this topic was about Pakistan or Iran, i would never comment here at all.
ONCE AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, ONLY AND ONLY AFGHANS DOES AND HAVE THE RIGHT WHOM SHOULD STAY IN AFGHANISTAN OR NOT!!!
Riza – I have all the right to comment about USA-Nato intervention in Afghanistan and I will continue to do so. If you are a true Afghan, you are a part in your internal conflict, and I do not take part like USA -Nato did in your internal problems, but I remember that Taliban were armed by USA and Pakistan to defend your country against the URSS, so they too fought for your country.
salerno, as far as i know, we[afghans] allowed USA/NATO to talk/walk/stay in Afghanistan.
Who allowed you to talk about Afghanistan ?
Once again, you have no right to talk about someone else country, if you are a US citizen, you may talk about US only, not Europe nor Afghanistan nor Asia.
Riza – world is globalized now. We are all in the same planet. Afghanistan government started after a war and an invasion by USA. This is not normal. This is why I am talking about ot. The war involved also Pakistan and many other countries. It is not an Afghanistan internal problem. I never took position about Afghanistan internal policy and fights BEFORE USA invasion.
salerno, USA invasion ?
Are you out of your mind ?
If i am correct, you are saying Taliban is better then USA. if USA wouldn't come to Afghanistan then Taliban would be in Afghanistan until now. you are supporting Taliban 😉
I know about USSR invasion, not about USA invasion because USA came to Afghanistan by permission of United Nation and some other countries + by permission of Afghan People.
Remember one thing, if Afghans wouldn't allow US military, you think US would remind in AFG for 10 years ? LoL
as i mentioned before, USA/NATO is in Afghanistan by permission of Afghan citizens.
Once our National Army gets bigger and better, US/NATO withdrawal will start. it's just matter of time.
Remember: Rome was not built in one day, It takes time to rebuild a country which was completely ruin by Pakistani and Irani people + Russians.
We might be in the same planet but countries are different. you should stop talking behind other people and stop interfering between countries.
Be Positive and stop leaving useless comments about a country which you don't know at all.
Riza USA started bombing Kabul without UN permission (come later) using my tax paid money. I have the right to comment my country foreign policy. I do not support Taliban against Afghan people, but your government is not rappresenting all the Afghan people, like in Iraq and in France or Italy during WWII. I received information from my friends working in Afghanistan since 1983 with the permission of the Afghan people including the Taliban, so I know someting of your country.
Dan – this is not the dumbest thing you have said. May be I am not a real person.
Riza .. Hey..good to hear from you after along time . well written .
Thanks Dear Dindy,
I kept quit for a while but these stupid Irani/Pakistani people will never stop interfering in our problems.
I really don't get it, why they have to talk/comment about others problems in the first place ?
Imagine: a wife and husband is fighting with each other and from nowhere i jump between them and ask them What's going on ? and start disturbing them. it's their fight, let them settle the problem.
or Maybe these pakistani/irani are paid to interfere ? god knows 🙂
I hope they stop leaving rude/negative comments about another country which they don't know about their culture and about their people at all and they learn little bit how to be positive and leave some positive comments.
As i can see, they are leaving rude/negative comments here, they are definitely a negative person and a pain in their own society.
PLEASE GUYS, BE POSITIVE LITTLE BIT AND STOP BEING AN @SS ALL THE TIME.
Riza... YES WE HAVE TO BE POSITIVE AND HOPE FOR THE BEST IN AFGHANISTAN. !!!
Phony boy your just a coward not willing to stand up for the ideals and values that make America so GREAT! And salerno your just a dumb butt liar that if anyone who listens to your remarks puts them in the same category, you have lost all credibility! Music is not only one of the finest arts but also relaxes as well as jubilates people and is good for mind, body and spirit!
Dan – You are right about music, but this is exactly the reason why it is used as a propaganda tool.
Even Hitler loved the music !
Are you trying to compare the Afghan people with Hitler? Your just an IDIOT!
No I compare you to Hitler, the Afghan people are the victims, the teacher speaking was an american not afghan.
You are always showing your brain insufficiency.
Hey dummy how are they victims if they now once again they can learn to play music? Like you said that you agreed with me how music is good for society. And to tell you the truth I am German, but my grandfather was lucky enough to immigrate to America before WWI, so there is no comparison there. And if you had any intelligence of human nature I would be surprised! As far as your assumptions, I take them with a grain of salt.
TOO MUCH BLAMING BECAUSE IT IS THE EASIEST THING IN THIS WORLD.
Dindy along with Jesus is right, when you are so concerned with laws and regulations you forget about the true love of God and His mercy for the people! The man made cult of 360 degrees by far surpasses the sins of the pharisees that lived by the law and forgot the love of God that Jesus says is even for the least of mankind which your cult would have no guilt in killing!
Dan – revert your accuse to yourself. The pharisees killed Jesus and many christians, even were allie with the Pagans Meccans against the muslims, but were defeated. Now it is the USA doing the killing as they are attacking other countries, while Yacobi and her people are in their land and are no threath to anyone.
Your so ignorant I can't understand what your trying to say except the accusation that America is attacking other countries which is untrue. We are at war with terrorists that had declared war on us and the Taliban for harboring them which we gave them the chance to give the leaders up to American authorities.
No Dan – USA attacked Iraq, Serbia, Lebanon, Vietnam, Panama, Many South and Central America countries like Cuba. No big difference with the Nazi. Hitler was just a little bit more meticulouse in killing.
If I were you salerno, on judgment day I would plead foolishly ignorant!
You will never arrive to the judgment day, my dear little Nazist.
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