January 25th, 2011
11:34 AM ET

Pakistani police probe alleged honor killing

Relatives of a 21-year-old Pakistani woman are under arrest for allegedly electrocuting her because she secretly married a man they didn't approve of, police told CNN.

Police arrested Saima Bibi's father and three other relatives after being
tipped off by an anonymous caller, said police official Muhammad Ismail.

Bibi - an ethnic Baluch - defied demands from her family to marry a
Baluch relative and instead ran away about one month ago to the southern portcity of Karachi to marry a fellow villager, police official Rao Zahoor said.

Her father and several other relatives traveled to Karachi and duped her
into coming back home. When she didn't listen to further demands they
electrocuted her, he said.

Bibi's family told police she committed suicide on Friday in their village in the district of Bahawalpur in Punjab, but a medical report showed signs of torture and electrocution on her hands, legs and back, police said.

Human rights groups say so-called honor killings - the murder of womenaccused of infidelity and dishonorable behavior - are a growing problem inparts of Pakistan.

A 2009 study by the European Journal of Public Health showed one out ofevery five homicides in Pakistan was an honor killing.

Some Baluch communities in Baluchistan province and parts of Sindh andPunjab provinces still justify honor killings.

The government is doing little to stop the killings, said Iqbal Haider, the head of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan.

"Sindh and southern Punjab are where the situation of honor killings is
the worst. It's an absolute menace," Haider told CNN. "The government is doing nothing at all. Beyond lip service they have done nothing. It's just careless indifference."

- Journalist Nosheen Abbas contributed to this report.

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  1. Kris Bried

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    August 8, 2011 at 5:57 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Marina DelMar

    It's not ISLAMIC tradition per-se, it's Arab bedouin tradition. They wanted to intermarry with other tribes to keep 'peace' and relations. Because they didn't trust outside tribes.

    After all, go see how many wives Mohammed took as a military alliance??????????????

    January 31, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
  3. Dindy..

    We have to give accounts to God one day if we dont pray for these people are in worst situation than us,

    January 30, 2011 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      It is more important to teach people the war is not the way to solve terrorism problem.

      January 30, 2011 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Dindy..

    SALERNO....Please read Mark 3 whole chapter in the Bible

    January 30, 2011 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
  5. Dindy..

    DAN ..IN L....please read Mark 3 ...whole chapter

    January 30, 2011 at 2:04 am | Report abuse |
  6. Dindy..

    Salerno...if Islam believes in Jesus why did they attack on 9/11 to destroy God"s children in the other part of the world. I believe Allah and God are one. We have to fix this problem . Both parties must repent and forgive each other. Before God punish all of us.

    January 30, 2011 at 12:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      sorry it must be therefore . Not there for

      January 30, 2011 at 2:25 am | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      9/11 was a reaction to american military operations in the middle east causing a lot of innocent people deaths, including women and children. Clinton bombed Iraq from1992 to 1999, Sudan (I remember a gardner was killed) in late 90ties, and so on.
      Americans killed even christians civilians in Serbia, Lebanon and other countries. They should have espected a reaction like 9/11. The Quran does not allow to kill civilians like was done in the 9/11 attack, so Islam is not responsible for that attack, but only Bin Laden and few others. Anyway the attack was understandable under the normal laws of war, as the US did the same in Hiroshima, or in Serbia when a TV building office and a civilian train were bombed.

      January 30, 2011 at 9:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        SALERNO......THANK YOU FOR KEEP COMMENTING. IN THIS CASE WE ALL HAVE REACTED IN ANGER WITH EACH OTHER. I continue my prayers because only when we pray only Sri lanka had peace. when people show respect to God only it the problem got solved. So I do the same here. May god bring all of us out from this situation.Amen!!!

        January 30, 2011 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Dindy..

    Dan..only prayers will help. These discussions dont take us near to the path of peace.. People are suffering both Pakistan, Afghanistan and USA and all over. We all must pray as one family despite of our differences. Because it is still easy for us to do it as we are not in the real war . At least we all must pray in Unity. God will answer.

    January 28, 2011 at 7:01 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      God said in the end he will throw fire down on their heads until they repent, well we will start that process and we may be that tool!
      Dindy there is a time where we will have to defend our Lord and Savior and with what is happening in the news now it seems as though the Muslims will soon try to take control of the world economically and through confrontation! If the ten kings should take or try to take authority over the world, NATO should do all it can to stop their advance on the human race!

      January 28, 2011 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Only the americans idiot like you fear the muslims can control the world. China is not worry at all.

        January 28, 2011 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        After the rapture of those who hold God's faith and love within their hearts then the Muslims who worship a different god and those who do not hold God's love within their hearts shall come to power and their will be 3 1/2 years for that to happen then 3 1/2 more of cruel and deadly punishment for those who do not join their anti-Christ movement! And China will most likely be aligned with your anti-Christ movement!

        January 28, 2011 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Allah is the same God of the Jewish and christians. It is formed by the same letters of the hebraic:(aleph-Lamed-He) . It is greater than the Abrahm's God El Shaddai, becouse it is the Melkitzedek's God, El- Elion. The Anti-Christ are the americans moving a religious war against Islam. Islam believes in Jesus.

        January 28, 2011 at 2:29 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Dan in L......Dear brother...words have power. It is with words God created this world. It is important to say power filed words but no other. No fear......Nothing lacks...we are God's children no matter with nationality or color ....we entered the promised land and are forgiven already. Must walk in spirit and search God and meditate day and night ..... wWe are power houses IN HIM AND HIS GLORY!!!

        January 30, 2011 at 12:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Dan..no one can be economically strong if God does not bless them. As I have made more than 10 visits to your country it is one of the most blessed land just like some other parts in the world. God bless Gentiles when his own children turn away from him. There for we all should come back to him and repent Muslims and Christians (all of us)
        There is no other way. When leaders say they will pull out in 2014 someone else can plan to survive till then. How do we make sure about time if it is not permitted by Lord.
        We have to pray and ask lord to bring peace before that. Leaders are also merrily humans and their decisions are not always right. Mr. Obama kept his word and pulled out from Iraq. Yet the problem continues . Because most bombers are believing evil . To defeat that we need lots of honest prayers . Weapons can defeat Bodies. Yet the spirit cant be defeated by weapons. There fore all god"s children must pray correctly.
        "God firstly Forgive our own sins and please bring all of us out from this terrible situation' In the name of Jesus Christ Amen." ( Mark 3 and John 16 )

        January 30, 2011 at 2:24 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Dan..Each of us have a mission given by God. All must understand her or his mission . I believe because of one man (Adam) sin came to this world and because of Jesus we all became free of sin.Therefore victory over death . And everlasting peace. All must believe it . Nothing else. Next is the Judgment day. We all must have enough oil in our lamps and must wait for the bride groom. (Jesus come back with all other angels)

        Each of us must prepare individually YET. NOT TO FORGET THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN TROUBLE , OPPRESSED AND HAS NOT COME TO SALVATION YET...MUST PRAY FOR THEM TO TURN TO GOD FATHER IN UNITY AS WE STILL CAN DO.

        January 30, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        In the Bible it says no one should call some one else an Idiot. If one say it that means he/she is being there once and know how to recognize the nature.

        January 30, 2011 at 2:36 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dindy – the Bible does not prohibite to call someone idiot. I called Dan idiot in a "technical" way, as it means stupid, but the original meaning is a simple citizen, a non expert person. Anyway I think he is not really intelligent, becouse after all my esplanations he keeps makong the same errors.

        January 30, 2011 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        read making instead of makong.

        January 30, 2011 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  8. salerno

    Dindy – The majority of christians are not following Jesus as they support the war killing innocent people. Muslims are closer to the Jesus teaching even if the last prophet completed the prophecy.

    January 28, 2011 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      The last prophet was not Mohammad, but Zechariah,period!

      January 28, 2011 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        we must spend our time seeking God...not about prophets .. what prophets said will happen. It is a different matter. There are many prophets. Yet there is one God even though we call God in different names.
        Hold God tightly !!! we never fall !!!

        January 30, 2011 at 12:32 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dindy – God speakks through his prophets. Prophets are not fortune tellers. Jesus prophecy was his gospel, it is not about predicting the future, but revealing God.

        January 30, 2011 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – may be for you, but you are irrelevant.

      January 28, 2011 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        Salerno Good post on JANUARY 30TH AT 3:23 PM

        January 30, 2011 at 10:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      salerno....I am not happy when sending comments . In many countries people have fed me and looked after me both Muslims and Christians. So I am truly sad when we have arguments.In tears I am writing for sake of all our Children.I am getting attacked by Buddhists for being God"s servant here. Yet God"s words are true. Even poison cant kill us.
      We must ask wisdom from God to understand these matters and must pray in unity to bring peace to world !!! Only prayers can move mighty things away like Jesus said!!

      January 30, 2011 at 12:23 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Americans must change policy, Taliban have no choice but to continue with fight and suicide bombers.

        January 30, 2011 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      salerno...so you have proved that you are a Taliban. No time to pray but time to fight. Think twice. Anyone without God has only misery. God gave final chance to us through Jesus . Must lay down Arms and repent. So USA will go back to their home.

      January 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dindy – I am a Taliban in the same way you are quick to understand. I esplained why the Taliban cannot stop fighting.

        January 30, 2011 at 3:24 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Lost

    ...also in the Quran, it states that a woman can choose for herself whom she wishes to marry.....But....long held traditions dictate customs otherwise.

    January 27, 2011 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Dindy..

    salerno...good you guys have defended Jesus. Better it you guys can follow his way too. "Forgiveness " It was JESUS THEME IN LIFE. SO do not support suicide bombers !!

    January 27, 2011 at 10:25 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dindy – Americans are supporting suicide bombers as they created them killing their people. I am just accusing you and americans for that support.

      January 28, 2011 at 2:28 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        salerno......Do not accuse me or Americans for anything as you dont know our hearts. Only creator can see it. We dont own any training camps for suicide bombers or don't agree with that spirit of devil.
        If there is a problem people must discus rather than killing thousands . All I say is ....weapons only cant win over devil. People must pray in Unity and Honestly.

        January 30, 2011 at 2:41 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dindy – I don't care what is in the american's hearts. I see their murderouse actions and their lies about non-existent training camps. Do you know how much time takes to turn a young man into a suicide bomber ? half an hour. Less than the time needed for an american to decide if or not to joint tha army. The Taliban have no tome to pray, now is the time to fight.

        January 30, 2011 at 9:25 am | Report abuse |
  11. Dindy..

    🙂

    January 27, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
  12. LOVER...

    They say..Islam is peace.. But for a slight mistake of others they will come with a gun or even worse thing. secret killers. Quran says destroy and kill who does not agree with your God. (Allah) yet this is one God ..that they do not know.
    My only wish is that my daughter should not meet anyone too old like her father to end up in Marriage because she will become a young widow .May our true God save us from a old Bride groom.

    January 27, 2011 at 5:35 pm | Report abuse |
  13. LOVER...

    They marry young ones. they marry tons sometimes . Make dozens of babies to spread their generation. they never help anyone when their is floods or war.But in the first place to kill others. No body immigrate to their countries .If they do still very little.

    January 27, 2011 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  14. LOVER...

    Muslim "s brain is turning where their hat is turning............they tell one thing in the morning and they tell another thing at night....their cloths are mostly white but their soul is black . hate and anger is they carry under their hats and do not trust them.

    January 27, 2011 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Michael V. Caldwell

    "ROAD TO PEACE" (film short)

    Opening Scene: (filmed in black & white, silent film)

    We see an old Soldier walking down a dirt road with a machine gun under his arm
    and carrying his young son on his shoulders.

    The young boy and his father are dressed in their combat clothing and the boy
    also has a machine gun gun tucked under his arm, suddenly they stop.

    (our camera pans to a person sitting on a large rock on the side of the road)

    We see the back of this person only, the person is wearing a black hooded robe
    with their hood raised up.

    (we pan back to the old soldier and his son)

    The old soldier places his son on the road then pushes him in the
    direction of the hooded stranger.

    The young boy walks cautiously up to the stranger with his gun drawn upwards

    as he gets closer we notice the person is small in stature then the boy points
    the gun at the back of the strangers head.

    The stranger turns around slowly then we see it is a young girl, the girl is

    the same age as the boy.

    The young girl places a daisy Flower in the barrel of the boy's gun.

    (at that instant our film changes to color and remains in color)

    Next, we see they young boy standing there with a blank look on his face he then

    drops the gun on the ground, the gun vanishes and where the gun was we see books

    instead.

    The boy picks up the books curiously, then turns and looks in the direction
    where his father was with an astonishment look.

    (we show a close-up on boys face then we pan our camera to the father)

    The boy's father is now standing there dressed in a white shirt and slacks and
    holding sets of plans tucked under his arm in the place of a gun.

    (we pan back to boy and girl)

    We see the boy standing there dressed in the same attire as his father, with
    books tucked under his arm in place of his gun staring at the girl that is
    still

    sitting on the rock, the girl has long curly brown hair and is now wearing white

    clothing, she also has books sitting next to her.

    Closing Scene:

    We see the backs of all three of them walking down the road towards the setting
    sun, the boy and the girl are holding hands both of them carrying books
    tucked under their arms.

    The father has sets of building plans tucked under his arm and is walking
    with his head up high.. Time To Build A Better Future..A New Future For All..

    Fade Out End...Or Beginning Of A Brighter Future For Our World..

    Written By Michael V Caldwell, Always...

    "THINKING OUT OF THE BOX FOR A BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR WORLD"

    January 27, 2011 at 11:22 am | Report abuse |
  16. IdBeHonoredToKill

    Those murderers.

    January 26, 2011 at 8:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      I totally agree with you about the C.I.A. That's exactly what they are. They've been at it since 1947!

      January 27, 2011 at 4:12 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        So phony boy the CIA are murderers and bin Laden and al Qaeda along with the other terrorists in their hood are not huh?

        January 27, 2011 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  17. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    Come and meet me at interstate 65 and state road 26 and I'll blow your asses away!

    January 26, 2011 at 4:34 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      I take that back, I'll let God punish you for the sins you think is OK because we are the infidels and you have your own god that will reward you for such horrific terrorist activities!

      January 26, 2011 at 4:43 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Sorry folks,it looks like that jerk Pfunnie boy's making a fool out of me again. I never posted any of those stupid posts above!

        January 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy..

        .Just like Jesus said....they do not understand ...Father..Forgive them.!!

        January 27, 2011 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Dindy there is a time where we will have to defend our Lord and Savior and with what is happening in the news now it seems as though the Muslims will soon try to take control of the world economically and through confrontation! If the ten kings should take or try to take authority over the world, NATO should do all it can to stop their advance on the human race!

        January 28, 2011 at 12:05 pm | Report abuse |
  18. Al Fatah

    Thanks for your assistance IIHO pls follow ip on Dan in Lafayette,IN he has been insulting our Prophet salama salam thank you our profile no. 18654-4352 full doc.

    January 26, 2011 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Your prophet was born from a pagan family and when he was over 50 years of age married a 9 year old girl. What kind of prophet would that be? One who formed a religion ha? And who is the fool?

      January 26, 2011 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        I know how much you Muslims hate Paul for all the truth he has written in the New Testament. Your jealousy shows which brings out your hatred!

        January 26, 2011 at 6:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Paul who used to be Saul, the well known Pharisee who knew the laws of the Israeli's very well and had persecuted Christians throughout Israel and even other lands. One day on his way to Damascus to arrest and persecute the Christians there God/Jesus had blinded him and ask him why he was persecuting Him. Jesus had told him to go on to Damascus and someone would meet him there but he was blinded for three days until he reached Damascus where he was baptized and his sight came back. From then on he was a reborn Christian and renamed Paul. That is why you all hate Paul so much, but I do not understand why you hate the Pharisees so much because they too lived by the law and persecuted and killed the Christians just as you extremists do, but when Jesus came and bore all our sins it is now by the Grace of God that we are saved and no law(s) can save us only through the faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior!

        January 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – You do not understand becouse your mental weekness (hinduism). Islam is not a new religion. We can say muslims are the true followers of Jesus, and additonally recognized the Mohammed prophecy. So they see the Pharisees as evil becouse they killed Jesus, and they defend Jesus memory even more than the christians as you can remember when the movie "Da Vinci code" was done.

        January 27, 2011 at 3:28 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        I mean the christians did not defend Jesus at the time of the movie, while the muslims did.

        January 27, 2011 at 3:30 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        So you have faith in Hollywood do you? These peoples only concern is to make money! The Muslims defend their prophet much more than they do Jesus who is the only begotten Son of God and furthermore they represent Him the wrong way, yes he knew the law of the Israeli's but his purpose was not to enforce the laws, but to have mercy ,compassion and forgiveness for the sinners and that is why He died on the cross, for those who believe Him as lord and Savior shall have everlasting life, but for those who deny this fact and persecute and kill those who do shall burn in hell for eternity!

        January 27, 2011 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        You americans are the Holliwood worshipers, as everything they make is right. I never watch any movie. Muslims do not persecute anyone for different believes as religion freedom is clearly stated by Quran. Muslims are defending from US aggressions and this is why Bin Laden had so much support and there are thousands of suicide bombers ready to kill the americans and their allies.

        January 27, 2011 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        If religious freedom is allowed by Islam then why do many if not all have laws condemning people to death if they convert? Also why are Christians killed and persecuted and churches burnt down on Muslim States and no lawful action is taken against the perpetrators? You can sit here and defend your maniac brothers to me , but with God you will have no defense!

        January 27, 2011 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Only the Wohabit and Salafit kill for apostasy. The 4 orthodoxic Islamic juridic school do not. Burning churc and killing christians is forbidden and those individuals committing the crimes in Egypt and Iraq were punished. In US there is tolerance when a muslim is killed.

        January 27, 2011 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Are you saying that our justice system does not punish those who kill Muslims in the same manner as any other people who are killed,salerno?

        January 28, 2011 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        And those where the Christians that were on the news , there were many that never hit the news. Also what were the punishments we never heard that they were caught let alone punished?

        January 28, 2011 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you should read the CNN news instead of putting wrong comments. In Iraq and Egypt recently some killers were captured and some sentenced to death.

        January 28, 2011 at 2:00 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Islamic law does not make discount for racial or religious differences like in the USA.

        January 28, 2011 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • legacy....

      Al fatah.....the crazy fool . get the hell with you and blow off coward

      January 27, 2011 at 5:03 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dindy..

      Al Fatah......who are you? do you think that you are stronger than God? Every human has a given time by God. You cant take it before God is allowed. stop talking big.

      January 30, 2011 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
  19. Al Fatah

    Dear Mr.Dan: We are very surprised that you call our Prophet false. False are your leaders that betrayed our beloved brother Osama B L if americans were not traitors none of this would have happen. Now thanks to your foolish leaders (Bush n company) we have wars all over the world and people like you calling us names accept that it is your govts fault and stop calling our prophet names or we will track you we do not insult religious figures no matter who or where we are sending your comments to the Iraki Islam Head Office

    January 26, 2011 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Bring it on! This just goes to show how much Islam is a terrorist religion and has been since it's beginning! And your brother bin Laden WILL burn in hell forever along with all of his anti-Christ followers!!!

      January 26, 2011 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Your Islamic radical brothers have persecuted and killed Christians and Muslims who have converted to Christianity so many times within so many Muslim states that it is hypocritical that you call your religion a peaceful one!

        January 26, 2011 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Al Fatah, how can you call America a traitor when the fact is that bin Laden declared war on America in the 90's and has been attacking US interests ever since! God surely will throw you all in hell when all is said and done unless you ask for forgiveness and repent of your murderous campaign!

      January 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Philistine is actually Israel and God said he would bring them back in the end times and you crazy Muslims want the end to come!

        January 28, 2011 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Hey I'm just telling where they can find me and if they wanted to do their thing what would happen!

      January 26, 2011 at 8:22 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Saddam

    I agree with Al Fatah Dan please refrain from calling all muslims bad people you know that America is the baddest country in the world and you are very proud of that when american aircraft bomb a wedding and kill 80 or 100 people you dont call them radical what are they? People become radical when they are hurt if an Saudi airplane bombs your home and kills all your family I can bet you you will become more than radical so pls shut up fool

    January 26, 2011 at 1:14 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Only a fool would believe that the Son of God would transform himself into a sinner to save his life when his purpose was to die on the cross for all peoples sins as Isaiah had a prophecy about in chapter 53 of his book in the Holy Bible!

      January 26, 2011 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Yacobi – Very interesting. I am awaiting to know your view about Jesus transfigurration. To me it was amazing that they recognized Jesus from the "WAY HE BROKE THE BREAD", after the Tiberiade vision.

        January 27, 2011 at 3:49 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        "mikron kai ouketi theoreite me, kai palin mikron kai opsesthe me." Vangel S: John16.16

        January 27, 2011 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
    • dindy

      Saddam....... how can you stop anyone"s freedom of talking especially when you are here on CNN .. when and where American air craft purposely killed 100 in a wedding?. May be it fell in a technical failure. you are the fool here to justify global terrorism.

      January 27, 2011 at 4:55 pm | Report abuse |
  21. yusef

    Well said AlFatah salam

    January 26, 2011 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Al Fatah

    Dan you are wrong you cannot say that all muslims are radical or suicidal we have the same values as all religions and also we have bad seeds like everyone our prophet said dont judge by the image judge by the soul if you cannot see the soul search deeper

    January 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      I never said all Muslims are bad, but I do believe that they hold their faith in a false prophet, but it does not make them bad just the false prophet.

      January 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  23. salerno

    Honor killing was tolerated in european christian countries like Italy only few years ago. It is caused by ignorance, jealousy and shame. (trinitarian deception)

    January 26, 2011 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      More lies, you only add to the BS content of the 360 cult!

      January 26, 2011 at 3:31 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Do your search. The penalty was very low, and after few months people were able to be free !

        January 26, 2011 at 3:47 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        Sorry salerno, I didn't post the above but Pfunnie boy did. He never gives up.

        January 26, 2011 at 3:53 am | Report abuse |
    • Hugh

      What do you mean by "trinitarian deception?"

      January 26, 2011 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  24. dindy

    It must be ......Author Gulshan in Pakistan.

    January 25, 2011 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
  25. dindy

    Dan.. One Author Gulshan Pakistan was jailed and later she ran off from Pakistan to USA because she gave a testimony about Jesus . She had Polio since birth and was on a wheel chair for seventeen years. One day she found the name Jesus in Quran and bought a bible secretly to read more about Jesus. Then Jesus appeared to her and healed and she could walk. Then she wrote a Book " Behind the veil" She is still alive in USA . After she wrote and give testimony about Jesus her own family too wanted to kill her. Her family was a rich family.Even in India and Sri lanka we have and had these stupid tradition that we cant marry the man we love. Here they dont kill like that. Unless some one cheat the Marriage. But that is also end up in a divorce rather than killing.
    If Holy spirit of God sent Jesus then that means God was also tired of so many killings in Old testimony. So Jesus was the savior who came to earth and who went to heaven. Jesus showed the way to heaven because people were not many people were believing God even after God did so many miracles . Still many dont believe God . Here I face troubles because I believe God. Devil is using many to attack me daily because I tell the gospel whomever I talk.
    It is time to forgive each other and stand in union to praise God as one family. If not God will get angry and destroy all of us.

    January 25, 2011 at 9:01 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Dindy you are now in America and people have their freedom of choice and some would rather enjoy their life instead of hearing someone preaching to them. What I am trying to say is that maybe at a young age Jesus was brought into a persons life and He will always be with him but you cannot press the issue. They will return to Him in their time, but if you need to stand in union with others to praise the lord like a family find a church that shows compassion for all people and become a member and help in the church someway or in the community and you will feel better about yourself and will become one with the Holy Spirit and when Jesus comes again you shall rise to heaven after those who have fallen asleep with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and will be taken out of the great tribulation!

      January 25, 2011 at 10:55 pm | Report abuse |
      • dindy

        Good posts Dan., Thank you.

        January 26, 2011 at 8:33 am | Report abuse |
  26. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    I can tell.

    January 25, 2011 at 8:52 pm | Report abuse |
  27. dindy

    Dan.....

    Goat has come back to say Baaa get out from here and post under your own ID Jamusary 25th 7:48pm post is not mine.

    January 25, 2011 at 8:48 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    I suppose that the right-wing news media is going to try to pin this on the Taliban,too. In fact,these honor killings have been going on for hundreds of years, long before the advent of Islam!

    January 25, 2011 at 6:17 pm | Report abuse |
    • dindy Sri lanka

      Quite true Dan,quite true. Thank you.

      January 25, 2011 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
    • dindy

      Dan ..you have contributed good posts against crimes like this time to time and they are good posts .

      January 25, 2011 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Dan in Lafayette,IN

    Quit trying to deny the fact that this is an Islamic tradition and trying to blame others for inhumane Islamic social immorality!

    January 25, 2011 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – It is absolutely NOT islamic tradition. Islam should and will punish this murder. Even yhe name "honor" killing is a non sense.

      January 25, 2011 at 4:27 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        The problem is that those muslims are not radical, as radical Islam does not allow this kind of killing.

        January 25, 2011 at 4:30 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        So it is true radical Muslims are the cause of the killings in the western world huh?

        January 25, 2011 at 5:09 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Killing in the western world was made by moderate muslims. If they were radical in following the Quran they would not have killed civilians but only militery like in the wonderfull Cole attack.

        January 25, 2011 at 5:22 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        So the killing of 19 sailors who had done nothing to you or any terrorist group is a wonderful thing huh? Your heart is full of hatred and sin!

        January 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        You are an idiot salerno! All attacks on western society be it military or civilian are done by radical Islamic extremists! And all moderate Muslim states are against the Islamic extremists, because they too pose a threat to them ie;Saudi Arabia and Egypt.

        January 25, 2011 at 9:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        You are an idiot salerno! All attacks on western society be it military or civilian are done by radical Islamic extremists! And all moderate Muslim states are against the Islamic extremists, because they too pose a threat them.

        January 25, 2011 at 9:11 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you are an idiot. You and other stupid ( hindu) can call 9/11 attackers radical Islamist. To me they were not radical for the reasons I esplained above. The 19 sailor were mass murderer and ready to kill inncent children, so they had what they deserved.

        January 26, 2011 at 2:54 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        More BS coming from the 360 cult of killers and liars who bare false witness, another of God's commandments that they feel they can break because they have the right to punish anyone who believes in the trinity!

        s

        January 26, 2011 at 3:25 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – you are a liar. S.Arabia is part of what you call wrongly radical Islam, as they are wohabit. They have the hardest form of sharya. Idiot.

        January 26, 2011 at 3:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        But they leave it in their own borders, they do not attack US interest abroad! We do bring this up in talks with them, but as you say we cannot change the way they rule, but they have made some improvements.

        January 26, 2011 at 5:33 am | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        It is the US that fails to live in their borders.

        January 26, 2011 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette,IN

        No it is the Us that stands up to Islamic terror that plots and attacks western interests around the world! If terrorist groups would have left the United States alone we would not have bombed anyone anywhere, but bin Laden had declared war on America and attacked us horrifically and all Islamic extremism that either harbors him or defends him will pay the price!

        January 26, 2011 at 1:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • salerno

        Dan – may be you are retarded as after 10 years still fail to realise the ture motivations behind AlQaeda attacks. It US that treathened Muslims intsrests around the world and AlQaeda reacted. Now you failed to capture the leaders and they are spread in many more countries.

        January 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Then why in Sindh and southern Punjab where most of the honor killings take place this is not social immorality? I know here in America many people have no moral values, but as Christians are concerned we are more loving, caring and forgiving people like our Lord and savior Jesus Christ because as we accept Him as our personal savior the Holy Spirit comes within us and helps us to become more like Him if we also put in an effort to be more compassionate and forgiving! As for Islamic radicals they are merciless and unforgiving and without compassion for the sinner!

      January 25, 2011 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan – christians are not loving and forgiving people, they are serial killers. Messes are celebrated even on the aircraft carriers before the muss murdering, and the priests are blessing the killers like blessed the Nazifascista in WWII.
      Viloence against women and honor killing are present also in christian countries like Italy and Romania.

      January 25, 2011 at 5:39 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Who would believe in someone who supports radical Islam?

      January 25, 2011 at 5:47 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      Dan- All my statements can be verified by individual search. Even the Jeish blamed the christians for having supported the persecutions against them in every part of Europe. They blamed even the Pope.

      January 26, 2011 at 2:57 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      Salerno you can have anyone you want to verify the lies you make about the life of a true Christian, but you will never change my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, as the Messiah and Savior of the world, YES GOD THE FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT!

      January 26, 2011 at 1:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      I don't care to change anyone faith, I just pointed out your hypocrisy as a christian, or a false christian, let me say.

      January 26, 2011 at 2:10 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette,IN

      I will live an everlasting life while you will be burning in hell forever!

      January 27, 2011 at 9:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • salerno

      HaHaHa !! Everlasting life ! You ! HaHaHa !

      January 28, 2011 at 8:38 am | Report abuse |