More than six in ten Americans oppose the U.S. war in Afghanistan, according to a new national poll. And a CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Thursday also indicates that 56 percent of the public believes that things are going badly for the U.S. in Afghanistan.
Full poll results [pdf]
Sixty-three percent of people questioned in the poll say they oppose the war, with 35 percent saying they support the U.S. mission in Afghanistan.
"The war has not always been unpopular – back in March, when a majority thought that the war was going well, the country was evenly divided. But by September, the number who said that things were going well for the U.S. in Afghanistan had dropped to 44 percent, and opposition to the war had grown to 58 percent," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Today, with Americans remaining pessimistic about the situation in Afghanistan, they also remain opposed to the war."
The survey indicates a partisan divide, with three-quarters of Democrats and more then six in ten independent voters opposed to the war, and Republicans supporting it by a 52 to 44 percent margin. A minority of Democrats and independents say the war is going well, with a majority of Republicans saying things are going well for the U.S.
This year the U.S. and its coalition partners ramped up the fight against Taliban militants in Afghanistan. Late last year, President Barack Obama ordered additional U.S. troops to the country as part of a strategy that could bring some forces home as soon as July 2011. Officials have said the goal is to end combat operations in Afghanistan in 2014.
The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll was conducted December 17-19, with 1,008 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.
– CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser contributed to this report
Can this war be won? At this point, I feel not. America's mass network of communications, has really confused many Americans, showing one view point as the dominant one and the other but in negative contrast. Do I support the Politicians behind the war? Never, do I support the men and women willing to die for our nations freedoms? Yes. The Soviets tried winning Afghanistan, in the name of Communism, and lost. Can we win this, or leave running. Now our Allies are questioning America's ability to engage in the modern war, maybe not openly but in closed doors.
The Afghans don't want us there, but we don't want another 9/11. People were all tough, saying our superior forces will defeat the Afghans into submission within a year, look now it's 2011. America's economy lays in shambles, our reputation tarnished, and our Military tired. Even after America leaves, who knows what will happen, the Afghans had been fighting a Civil War the Soviets only interfered, then collapsed two years later.
We continue on in the name of freedom, and revenge. Fighting a War for revenge has never resulted in anything except defeat, America stands divided as it's people continue yelling at each other. In the end in each of our minds the question remains can America win in Afghanistan, or was it already a lost cause in 2001? Was it to quickly rushed, by the Bush administration, or should we had simply gave money to a group to challenge the Taliban, for the near future we wont' know.
We are trying to win the war there... We are trying to train both Countries so that They can win the wars Themselves!!! There is a big difference there...
Most who supports the war are arguing from a really emotional level. The quote " I think your forgetting 911" is not a reason to wage war on a country. I think when people say that, they basically mean ' I don't know what terroristy country did blew up them towers but I don't like the look of them people, we should raid their whole country just in case some of the inciters of violence live there, we already checked Iraq but maybe if we just invade every country in the general axis of evil area well find some terrorists and we can make them feel pain like what they did to my fellow americains". If you've ever had someone taken from you early at the hands of some one else, you'll know revengeful thoughts can easily dominate the mind. What people need to realize is that it is the same for people in these middle eastern countries. When we sit there feeling feeling like holy justice seekers, people are sitting there in Iraq, Afghanistan etc thinking about revenge in just the same way. Its very simple. You kill one civilian and a lot more that that number want to kill you and who you love. It compounds like that. Hundreds of thousands of middle eastern, innocent civilians have been killed. Try seeing it from your enemy's shoes.
The most pathetic thing about American war might be that in the end a very dominating argument for it is that "they started it" when it's been going on so long in so many (what might seem) subtle ways. & i don't think many people have a clue where the original conflict came from. When it comes to weapons of mass destruction it's not going to matter who started or finishes it.
We know that Afghanistan and Pakistan was the training grounds for the Tarriest!!! That is why We have to get Them out of there and make sure They can't go back... It is the People that has all the hate not the Government when it is coming to the Wars!!!
Our Country the USA is in a Nuclear War, and WE the USA are causing it to happen to those countries that we are involved in through the use of DU in the munitions. It says in the Bible that God is going to destroy those destroying the Earth.
Are You saying the the United States, Russia and England are destroying the earth???
You sir, made absolutely no sense
I spent two years in the middle east myself. Those people ARE NOT worth dying for.
What were you doing there playing in the sand box!!! Because the Men and Woman I talk to that was there sure didn't feel that way...
TO JOHN(ACHMED), RAMON, AND LARRY KEGEL(US ARMY)
IF I STEPPED ON YOUR TOES I TRUELY APOLOGIZE. AFTER SITTING AND THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE READ HERE I UNDEERSTOOD THAT NONE OF YOU UNDERSTOOD.... I HOPE THAT MY LAST ENTRY WILL CLEAR UP A FEW THINGS FOR YOU AND THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WAR AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LIVES LOST AND THE ONES STILL FIGHTING. tHIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME. MY HUSBAND HAS GONE THRU 3 TOURS AND I WOULD HATE TO THINK THAT IF GOD ORBID SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN TO HIM THEN THERE WOULDNT BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WETHER OR NOT THIS WAR IS IMPORTANT. THIS WAR IS IMPORTANT OTHERWISE THE LIVES LOST WOULD BEMEANINGLESS AND THEY WOULD HAVE DIED OR NOTHING. WERE ONLY TRYING TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE AND I THINK WERE GOING A GREAT JOB!!!!!
Rachael the reason you are saying this its because your husband(murderer) bringing money home through this evel act.
If you were wise woman, you going to tell him to resign from these murderers(American Army) and find other means of making money. Dont forget that the blood of woman and children that your husband and friends are shading there wil one day show itself in your family. Dont think what you are doing and did will just go away.
She is saying it because all Military People feel that way!!! Why do You think they are in it in the first place!!! Why don't You join so they can make a man out of you!???
You are truley cluless and need to refrain from trolling and or breathing. Idiot!
Why did You stick Me in with that Group!!! Anyone that was really in the Service knows Your were right... I was in from 1959 to 1965!!!
The wars in the middle east are not justified as good simply because your husband and his comrades wanted to go play soldier.
Is that really what You think of Us that risk Our lives to protect This Country??? You are one sick Person to even say that!!! You wouldn't even be able to talk like You do if We didn't sacrifice Ourselves for Your rights... Because when We go to fight We don't know whether We will be back our not!!! We are there for the love of Our Country...
Your stand on the War befits your poor grammar, lousy punctuation and vocabulary and ill-conceived logic. Your husband, and every other serviceman there, is costing us taxpayers 1 million dollars a year. What a waste.
AND FOR THOSE WHO DONT BELIEVE IN KILLIKNG OTHERS WHAT ABOUT THE LIVES LOST ON 9/11? DO YOU BELIEVE IN THAT? WAS THAT OK? iF WERE NOT THERE TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS THEN THEY WILL BE HERE AGAIN ON OUR SOIL TAKING CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS AND MAKING THEIR POINTS. yOUR ALL MORONS. tHESE SOLDIERS ARE PROTECTING YOU AND YOUR RIGHTS AND ALL YOU CAN SAY IS THAT THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE THERE..... lET ME TELL YU IDITS SOMTHING, WE CONQUERED IRAQ AND WE WILL CONQUER APHGANISTAN. iTS NOT ABOUT KILLING PEOPLE IN GENERAL BUT ITS ABOUT REORM AND CIVILITY. tHESE SMALL CHILDREN ARE LEARNING TO USE THESE GUNS AND GROWING UP TO KILL YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS. kILLING BIN LADIN WONT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. hE WILL BE AVENGED AND IN THE END OTHERS WILL COME, THEY WILL STEP UP AND IF SOMETHING ISNT DONE NOW ABOUT THE ROGUR BEHAVIOR AND THE CRUELTY IT WILL NEVER END...... tHIS WAR IS BIGGER THAN US ITS BIGGER THAN OUR KIDS. i HAVE 8 CHILDREN AND GOID REST THEIR SOULD IF THEY SHOULD BECOME MILITARY BUT BET YOUR SWEET ASS THAT I WILL BE THE PROUDEST MOM IN THE WORLD BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING SOMETHNG YOUR SCARED OF AND THEIR NOT JUST STANDING ON THE SIDELINES COMPLAINING AND WHINING ABOUT WHERE THEIR TAXES ARE GOING AND THE KILLING OF THIOSE ROGUES THAT WOULD KILL US OIF GIVEN THE CHANCE. SO TONIGHT WHEN YOU GO TO BED YOU HOLD YOUR BIBLES TIGHT AND YOU PRAY TO GOD THAT THOSE MUSLIM IDIOTS DONT FLY OVER AND KILL SOMEONE YOU LOVE. THINK ABOUT THE WAY YOU ELT THE MORNING OF 9/11 2001 WHEN YOU REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING ON IN NEW YORK, WERE YOU MAD, WERE YOU CONFUSED OR HURT OR DID YOU FEEL SORRY OR ALL THAT WAS HAPPENING AND YOU WERE COMPLETELY HELPLESS.... YOU STILL THINK ITS WRONG? i SAY KILL THE TOWEL HEADED MURDERERS AND THEN COME HOME AND JUST IN CASE ONE SHOULD LIVE THEN NUKE EM...... MY OPINION AND I AM SURE THAT I SHARE IT WITH WAY MORE PEOPLE THAN YOU DO THINKING THAT WE SHOULD BRING THE SOLDIERS HOME AND KEEP THEM SAFE. WELL WHO WILL KEEP THE COUNTRY AND THE AMERICANS SAFE FROM THEM?? ANY IDEAS YOU GENIUS'S
They don't want to fight... But They re the first ones that cry when something goes wrong!!! But They blame the Democrats and Jews for it instead of admitting They were wrong...
Well since all you apghan loving baddah freaks obviously have no mind of your own heres an idea,,,,, you all move to aphganistan and we bring our soldiers home and we nuke the hell out of it so the rest of us can live in peace...... You cant support our troops who are actually doing whats right and you cant support our government who are trying to protect another 9/11 from taking place, so you move there and the soldiers come home and we nuke em and the world will be a better place....... HAVE A NICE FLIGHT GUYS!!!!
Put all the Right Wing People of the World on a Island and Nuke that!!! Why kill innocent People???
I still remember the Viet Nam War protests I attended in 1968. I was the only one there protesting that we were not fighting the war to win it.
If we had fought WWII like we did Viet Nam the western allies never would have invaded France. The Russians would have stopped at the Polish border. Ya, In South Viet Nam we had 500,000 troops, but they were in the wrong country! We should have invaded the north and told China and Russia to stick it up their rear. Does anyone see a comparison to Pakistan here?
The change from winning a major war quickly to minimize the cost and casualties of war started in Korea when the Military, Industrial complex did not make much money off it. Don't forget that the banks make money too, lending to the Government, so they can finance it.
Corporate warfare finally won out in Viet Nam, Iraq and now in Afganistan. The never ending war on terrorism is a godsend to the Military, Industrial complex. Everybody now is making money, except the dead!
Gen. Stanley McChrystal realized his troops were mere pawns in a larger game. Ya, I would have been relieved of duty also. I too, like Gen. Stanley McChrystal do not suffer fools that lead from their rear.
Keeping bases in former soviet territory and maintaining control over the oil region, FOREVER! is far more important that winning quickly and leaving.
Everyone naively thinks that the goal is to win here.
Why would Prez Bush leave a back door out of Tora Bora for Bin Laden to walk through?
Why would Prez Obama delay and then undercut Gen Stanley McChrystal's requests for enough troops to win?
Our ill equipped and undermanned forces have just enough to tread water and that's it. But this is by design. Here we are now in 2011, almost 10 years after 9/11/2001.
Our brave men and women will follow good orders that win wars quickly or bad ones that do not. They have been set up to fail at worst, tie at best.
Could it be the President doesn't have anything to say about how many troops he wants??? It is Congress that decides that!!!
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GET OUT NOW!!! Stop wasting young lives and money for NOTHING~!
FOR NOTHING????? ITS FOR REEDOM MAGNUS? YOU KNOW YOU CAN GO TO ANY CHURCH YA WANT AND DRESS ANY WAY YOU WANT AND YOU . YOU DONT SUPPORT THE WAR AND YOU DONT SUPPORT THE TROOPS THEN GO TO THE FRONT LINE AND STAND IN FRONT OF THEM.... SEE IS YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND THEN.... tRY LIVING IN THAT COUNTRY AND SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT. NEVER KNOW THEY MAY BRAIN WASH YOU INTO WEARING A TOWEL ON YOUR HEAD AND GROWING A BEARD TO..... I WILL BUT YOU A TICKET TO GO OVER AND PROTEST THE WAR, THE APHGANS WILL KILL YOU FOR HAVING A OPINION..... IDIOTS LIKE YOU SHOULD BE PLACED IN APHGAN AND LET THERE. BET YOU FIND GOD AND START TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE, THAT PLACE IN WAY BEHIND, THERES NO CIVILITY AND NO LAW AND NO ORDER AND YOU HAVE NO ABILITY TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.... PROBABLY WOULD BE A GOOD THING BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO GOOD IDEAS ANYWAY. hooah!!!!!!!
It it wasn't for My Brothers wasting Their lives!!! You would be able to say what Your saying today!!! Do You think the Communist, Nazi and Muslin have the right to talk like that about Their Country??? We fought to give You that right!!!
Whether we stay in Afg. or not, terrorists will continue to target the US. To Rachel: Not supporting the war isn't the same as not supporting the troops. I want them all to come home safe and alive; we don't need them being the young pawns in an attempt by those to old to do the dirty work themselves in imposing US-style democracy in a land that obviously doesn't want it. Kharzi is a crook. The vast majority of people in Afghanistan don't want us there; a good percentage of them know nothing about 9/11 or terrorism, and in fact many thing that the invaders there today are actually Russians. It's a quagmire. The soldiers really could care less about the politics involved–they're just trying to survive until their tour is up.
Do You really think They would rather have the Killing there by the Tarriest than have PEACE in the Regent??? I don't know where You get Your information they want Us out!!! But I bet it is Fox News???
DID YOU LOSE ANYONE IN9/11 OR DID YOUR HEART BREAK WHEN YOU SEEN THE TOWERS HIT BY THE PLANES OR THE ONE SHOT DOWN????? tHOSE AMERICANS ARE BROTHERS SISTERS MOMS DADS HUSBANDS WIVES AND AMERICAN CIVILIANS, THEY STARTED THE IGHT AND WERE FINISHING IT FOR THEM...... NOONE TOLD ANY SOLDIER TO GO OVER THERE AND PUT THEMSELVES IN DANGER BUT THEY DO IT FOR YOU. YOU RAMON.... FOR EVERY AMERICAN IN THE U.S DO YOU NOT PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT????? TEHY DONT HAVE TO DO IT. THEY CHOSE TO. MY HUSBAND IS ONE OF THOSE SOLDIERS. HE HAS DONE 3 TOURS AND YES HE HAS KILLED TOWEL HEADS BUT GUESS WHAT IT WAS HIM OR THEM. THEY AREN'T THERE TO PLAY NICE. THEY ARE THERE TO KILL AS MANY U.S. SOLDIERS AS THEY CAN, THATS THEIR OBJECTIVE, THEY THINK WE LIVE WRONG AND THAT DEMOCRACY IS WRONG THAT WE SHOULD BE LED TO BELIEVE THE WAY THEY DO. I YOU FEEL THAT WAY THEN FEEL REE TO HOP A PLANE AND HEAD RIGHT OVER TO APHGANISTAN. THEY WILL KILL YOU TO..... YOU GUYS ARE DEBATING AN OBSCENE IDEA THAT THE APHGANS ARE JUST PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE LET ALONE AND LIVE THEIR LIVES IN PEACE. GO TO YOU TUBE. THERE ARE PICTURES THERE OF AFPHGAN WOMEN AS HUMAN BOMBERS THAT ARE TRYING TO KILL OUR SOLDIERS. THERE ARE CHILDREN DOIBG THE SAME. WERE THERE OR THE RIGHT REASONS AND WE WONT LEAVE UNTIL THERE IS DEMOCRACY IN TGHAT WORLD AND ITS A NEW APHGANISTAN. THE U.S.A ARE NOT COWARDS AND WE STAND FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN AND WE DONT BACK DOWN, WELL SOME OF US DONT. YOU HOLY ROLLING BIBLE HUGGING JESUS FREAKS HAVE NO SPINE AND NO LOVE OR THIS CLOUNTRY AND DONT EVEN DESERVE TO LIVE HERE. I FEEL SORRY FOR ALL OF YOU AND HATE THAT YOUR MINDS ARE SO DISTORTED THAT YOU THINK WERE KILLING INNOCENT AND THAT THE SOLDIERS ARE DYING WITHOUT REASON..... MAYBE SOMEDAY YOU WILL OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE THE BIG PICTURE. THE U.S ISNT TRYING TO CONTROL ANY OTHER COUNTRIES. WERE ONLY TRYING TO PROTECT OURS AND ENSURE THE SAFETY OF TOMORROW.
These People are to stupid to appreciate what the Military has done are is doing for them!!! All they see is War is bad not what would happen if We never fought the wars...
Bring our troops home,
defend our own borders
We can still do that without bring the troops home!!! But the Republicans won't do it because They can't make money doing it...
Funny how when the issue is life and death for this many people the publics opinion doesn't seem to matter to the politicians.
All the Politicians care about is the money they can make while They are in office!!!
How very true that rings,Christiana. These right-wing politicians will say or do anything to get a vote. They care only for themselves. Thank you.
Everyone who waived the flag, talked tough, and supported these wars before, but no does not now should consider themselves fools. Please educate yourself and stop ruining this country with your faulty opinions and flip flop voting..
You have Your freedom because We fought the wars We fought!!!
LARRY KEGEL(US ARMY)
fUNNY HOW YOU FOUGHT IN WARS THAT YOU CLAIM TO GIVE US OUR REEDOM BUT YOUR AGAINST THIS WAR THAT IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT US SOIL AND THE AMERICANS AND THEIR WAY OF LIFE.
" Hey look" thats how we skate, stop worrying about your family I killed. Hey I even forgotten, I got your mother's hand in my locker in washington dc(millitary complex). Keep on skating while I am fixing my mulfunctioning m16 and it is good in killing woman and children since they are non moving targets.
Take this skateboard with you and everytime you miss your mom and dad that I killed; just skate. Killing your parents was the best I can do so that I can be called a hero at home(USA). You know only Israelis and americans are humanbeen, the rest are flies. Thats a reason no matter how many we can kill, our gavernment wil not say anything. Look what we did in Vietnam, Iraq and check what we are doing in PK and AFG. Our target is to kill millions and we have even design a civillian killing machines called Drones, you see these drones are good in killing mass of civillians. Do you disagree? look how many we have killed since last month not including those who were not reported. Remember this are not humanbeen but flies because they not Americans and Israelis.
Good posting,RSAT4. Thank you.
I fully agree with RSAT4 too,Larry. Good posting.
Will You Please quit putting words in my mouth!!!
Things are a lot better in the World because We fought to keep Communist out of that part of the World back then... Just as the World will be better off when We get the Tarriest out of That Regent!!! Better fighting Else where than fighting in Our back yard!!!
I think a few of these countries like Pakistan and Afganistan need to shed some their own blood in a civil war like the USA did when the south wanted to have their own form of government that allowed slavery. When radicals have their own laws within a country the established government needs to lay down the law and force them to follow the laws of the land. We did it and it was necessary. You can't turn your back on problems for long or they get out of hand like they are today. I may be a Federalist, but someone must take charge and have a fair and equally applied law in their country. You can't have Sharia law in one area and government law in another area. Time to pay up!
The problem is the South is fighting that war again!!! The problem is They are doing it throw the Government instead of fighting it as a war...
You got that right,Larry. The Republicans and the Tea Partiers stand for everything that's wrong,including illiteracy,racism,bigotry and needless wars.
Pull out of Afghanistan on condition that the Talibans and Bin company do not return to plan killing innocent civilians abroad(read Americans and others else where).
Of course the above is a joke. The plans of those seeking to kill innocents is to wait until war fatigue takes over such that all countries are forced to leave, re-establish Taliban government, close all schools where knowledge flourishes, ban TV and start training enormously for a Jihad. This is near to what looks like T and Al Q strategy for the long run!
I guess you rather have People killed in the United States, Europe and Asia right??? After all the Tarriest life are more important than the Free World right??? Even Russia is against the Tarriest!!! So You think that would tell You who is on the right side of This war???
Amazing. This whole board has been taken over by irate Pakistanis, hicks, and a clone army of Marxists.
Are you trying to say that I'm a Marxist clone,Dudeface? In a way,you're right. Karl Marx did have a lot of good ideas in his day and there's no denying that.
Clone army in that you hide behind a legion of hijacked IDs.
Marxist because........ok, wow. You're a loon, plain and simple.
Will You quit puttiing Your crap from under My name!!! I do not need Your Communist thinking under My name...
Sanity: I agree that the Iraq War wasn't needed!!! If Bush would have done what Obama is doing now in Afghanistan... This War would have been over a long time ago... I rather have the war there than here in the US!!!
Health Care money and other services are in trouble, because of unwanted wars!!!!!
You got that right,gatka2010!. Thank you.
Sure They blame the war on all the problems we have in This Country!!! The War isn't the problem Here... The problem is the Big Corporations, Banks and Mortgage Companies!!! They are who are messing up This Country!!!
Along with these two useless and unnecessary wars,Larry. All these issues need to be redressed but the self serving politicians in Washington just don't care.
well i dont think most of us dont want the health care bills or medicaid so how about you go live in europe if you dont like it
The war in Afghanistan has and always will be about American greed, and the need to flex ever shriveling and decaying muscles against weaker and undercivilized peoples, not to mention the Military Industrial Complexs' greed, and insatiable lust for power and money. Long gone are the days of the US as the benevolent power, that notion has been usurped by villainy, war mongering and greed.
Please tell Us how We benefit by being there??? If They wouldn't attacked us on 9/11 We wouldn't be there today!!!
After 10 years of war that still sees Obama Bin Laden free, the whole we are there because of 9/11 argument grows old, it has now turned into the US trying to cram its bloated and corrupt view of democracy down the trhoat of a people that don't want it.
You said it all,Gaius and I fully agree with you. Thank you.
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this shameful usa and its illegitimate government talks about laws,justice,prosecution and punishment for the world nations and citizens when they should have prosecuted their founders and its subsequent line of criminals of this illegal usa-government, who had committed the most heinous crimes against the Human Race in the history of this planet Earth.
Give the lands back to the Natives where those white european pirates had invaded and stolen over 300 years ago, Justice starts from there.Your GOD said"thou shall not covet your neighbor'S lands, women,opium,bananas,tea and so on.."then maybe we will have a safer and peaceful world.
Peace be with you all.
Are You saying We have no right to Our Country??? Any People that win the land in a War... Deserve to have that land!!! We deserve Our Country and Israel deserve Theirs!!!
just talk about OUR Country. Israel is not the subject here...
Thank you,peacemakers. You're quite right.
Basically, most Americans are greedy warmongers. They support a war when there are chances of winning. They belive that their wallet will get fatter if they can win a war.
That is not true... We just don't like People coming to Our Country and killing Our People!!!
LARRY I WISH AS A MEMBER OF THE ARMY U HAD POSTED THE ABOVE..... COMRADERY IS A TRADITION IN THE ARMY AND YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD STAND BEHIND YOUR COMRADS AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
Very well stated,Rokon. By the way,I didn't post the above!
allmost 60% are against any war, NOT MOST AMERICANS.
I DONT BELIEVE THATS TRUE. ITS ABOUT DOING GOOD IN THE WORLD WE LIVE IN AND ENSURING OUR SAFETY FOR TOMORROW....... SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY
dude if i was in obama's postion my strategy of the war would be yes to launch major attacks in southern afghainistan but also strengthen the afghan pakistan border i mean really and train the afghans more seriously
You don't have much confidence in Your People do You??? It worked in Iraq and it will also work in Afghanistan!!!
You are right!
What worked in Iraq? Are talking about the Sunni Awakening? Sons of Iraq movement? This will never work in Afghanistan because most people that live in the defined borders of what we know as Afghanistan do not actually call themselves Afghans. Less than 10% of the population says that they are Afghan, and those that do are mostly around Kabul. Do you really believe that we can unite tribes that have been at odds with each for hundreds of years for the better good of a country that they don't even believe in?
What "worked" in Iraq is the fact that we hired the so-called "Sons of Iraq" also known as the Awakening Councils to change sides during the insurrection to fight for us,Sanity. And we're still paying them large sums of money to support the puppet government there. I wonder what would happen if we stopped paying them off.
we should leave afghainistan immediately its not worth fighting for
Would rather have another 9/11 here are fighting there???
The taliban are bad for us and the afghan people. They need to be stopped. Thank you for your service.
you mean these people arent worth a few bucks out of your pocket. I doubt you are fighting for them. You just dishonor those that are.
Will you just cut the right-wing drivel? There's no glory in this obscene war!!!
Well said,John. Thank you.
@larry you have clashing view points make up your mind you post defending it then support someone bashing the person that stuck up for you your a hypocrite but truethinker i am a soldier and thank you for your support
Duh, Soviets were there for 10 years, lost 100,000 killed and wounded and still lost. We have been there almost as long, lost a fraction of those numbers and will lose too.
I have just retired from the military after 30 years but spent 3 tours there and was there as an advisor when the Soviets were there. There is no possibility of any victory for us. Those people have known nothing but war for the last eon and have never actually been conquered.
I wish more of my Tax $$ go to creating jobs here in US rather be given away to Millitary Industrial Complex for making weapons that we would never need.
That's exactly the way I feel,Sam. Thank you.
You nailed it,Sam!
It would be if the Government made sure the Jobs were here instead of being in a 3rd rated Country!!!
Absolutely, JOBS and Health care !!!!!!!!!!!!
join the army and put your tax money to work for you..... lol you all stand around and complain but its because you dont understand and you have the luxury to do so. Instead of complaining join the military and see 1st hand where your money is going. Learn to use the weapons they make. Get an education and be someone other than a whiney ass somebody that sets around complaining about his tax money. You have been paying taxes forever.... Only now do you have a reason and purpose to complain about where its going because now is the only time you have ever really known where the hell your tax money was going
Exactly what's so good about spending tax money on killing people who don't deserve to die,Rachael? Like I said before,killing people is bad and there's no glory in it nor is there any in war!
What We are doing is a lot different from what the Russian were there for!!! We are doing it right since We have NATO helping Us fight the war there...
Is it really,Larry? After all,the Russians were motivated by their ideology whereas the NATO forces and we are motivated by the prospect of exploiting Afghanistan's mineral resources and building a pipeline to Central Asia!
This US army going all over the world and starting new wars and meddling with other cultures and making trouble needs to end. We elected democrats into full power to do that; they didn't. I get the feeling that the US military operates independently from our country or its people, much as the Chinese army does. I wish all militaries would disappear; nothing good comes from them.
It be a lot easier if You would keep the Degrees out of it!!!
Actually a good portion of the 1900's were relatively peaceful in Afghanistan. It was until Najibullah and the Afghan communist regime asked the Soviets for help in crushing the Mujahedeen rebellion in 1979. I would disagree with you about saying that we will never win though. It all depends on how you define victory. If we say victory means making the country just secure enough to turn it over to the Afghan government and we do that, its a victory. It's a matter of perception. Someone posted that the 9/11 attack came from Afghanistan, not even close. Yes, the Taliban gave sanctuary to Bin Laden and Al Qaeda members AFTER the attack, when we asked the Taliban to turn over Bin Laden and they wouldn't, we invaded. How did we ever think that the Taliban would simply turn over Bin Laden after he asked for sanctuary? THe Pashtunwali code that the Taliban lives by has been around for centuries. Did Bush really think that they would turn their backs on thousands of years of tradition? A Pashtun would rather die than face the dis-honor of breaking Pashtunwali. This is why the fight in Afghanistan is so difficult.
I don't care how long you were in for im in now and if we were actually fighting this war it would've been over short of genocide we cant do what we need to its not a war its cowards killing civilians and killing soldiers and hiding in their homes with their families then they cry out that a tragedy has struck when their families are caught in the cross fire they have not been living war they've been living hiding behind their wives and children
KUDOS AND TY OR YOUR SERVICE...... STAY STRONG AND KEEP KILLING THEM COWARD ASS BEARD WEARING TOWEL HEADS. ONE LESS I WILL HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHEN MY HUSBAND GETS DEPLOYED FOR TOUR #4..... your doing a great job and i support you and your eforts even if these luxury having idiots dont
the longer we oppose what the government does, it seems like the longer they will go against what we want. Go to Pakistan, kill Bin Laden...pack up and call it a day, then bring the troops back to make sure a war in Mexico doesn't spill over to us
I have a better idea. Why don't we just rightfully and wisely vacate Afghnistan altogether as we are morally obligated to do???
That I agree with,Bledsoe. Thank you.
Sure kill a lot of innocent People... That sure would make Us look bad don't You think???
We took the troops out of there once before the war was over and We got 9/11!!! We can't afford to let that happen again...
NEVER give up our will power to kill or capture these Anti-Christ Islamic extremists!
Sorry folks,I didn't post the above. I don't hate Muslims and I never will. Like I said before,Afghanistan belongs to the Afghans and nobody else!!!
Dan,I totally agree. Thank you.
I never said I hated Muslims Phony boy, but intolerant Islamic extremists must repent or face the wrath of God!
Someone who goes out to kill the Christian way of life and this is what you do!
Your comment is Anti-Chris. If you truly believe in Jesus and have picked up his banner, then you must forsaken all War, The Anti-Christ comes in the name of peace, and spreads hatred and violence through War.
If Jesus is the real Messiah... Why is there still so Much killing in the World???
Im sorry kitty but what religion are you????? I am a christian and my husband catholic and both of us support the war!!!!!!! there is war all over the bible and in every religion. Read up!!!!!! You might learn something
Rachael,this war is wrong and should not be prosecuted. As a Christian,I'm against taking what is not mine to take and I'm also against needless killing. It's on these two principles that I strongly oppose this needless war!
If we Christians believed that we all would be ling under Nazism. I do believe that Jesus would want us to stand up against the Anti-Christ that wants to change and lie about Jesus' way of life!
The nine-year-old-almost-inconquerable war in Afghanistan truly appears to have lost its lustre, perhaps not because there are not enough troops but because strategies are just not working. I don't know...I don't know... .
I do know. First,we have no right to send any troops there and those who think that we do are ignorant of the Afghan people. Second,the Afghans do not want foreign rule and never did! Nobody with any moral principles would favor this obscene war!!!
Very well stated,John. Thank you.
They had no right to come to the United States and kill so many People as They did!!! You do not attack Us and expect Us to do nothing about it...
I feel that we do belong there "REMEMBER WHERE 9/11 WAS LAUNCHED FROM" the Taliban gave refuge to Bin Laden and his followers and by doing so invited us there to sqaush stat sponsered terrorism. So just think of those 3000 plus Americans that died on 9/11/2001 then tell them that we don't belong there and should never have been.
Fair point. However, we are not ruling them. Its not like we are there to stay. We are developing them to prosper, to create structure, so that they can hold responsibility what occurs in their nation. It really is for the better. Thinking otherwise is the true ignorance and goes to show it is luxury for those which are on the sidelines.
John or should I call you Achmed???,,,
I don't know whar country you think you live in or what military branch that you dreamt yourself into, but let me tell you something about this war that you don't stand behind... My husband has done 3 tours in the God for saken middle east and I could give a crap less wether or not you believe in what reason he is doing but i know when your sorry head hits the pillow at night, rest easy because its men like my husband that allow you to do so....... Obviously Achmed you know so much about that Aphgan people and your protecting their face and your comments are screaming at me that they should be allowed to live the way they live. You idiot, they are the reasons millions of poeple died sept 11th 2001.... Who cares for what reason you think we were there to begin with, it doesnt matter!!! We started in Iraq and now were in Aphganistan. If you dont stand behind this war and the troops fighting it then feel free to stand in front of them, They ARE making a difference in THIS world and making it a better place for tomorrow, I didnt like george bush but respected him for having the balls to fight back, I dont like OBAMA and yet I respect him for continuing with the crusade to fight terrorist...... This war is anything but obscene.... Those who dont favor it are ignorant. It's my husband who sacrifices his life so idiots like you can speak this ignorant crap and resume the unfailing virus of diarrhea of the mouth... The men and women who have died in this war believed in what they were doing, the parents, wives, husbands, friends and children of those brave and unselfish soldiers believe in this war otherwise those lives lost would be meaningless. Use your head and think about what your saying before you say it. And before you go there and say these lives lost were blah blah blah, let me tell you NOONE asked anyone to join the military and go fight for something they didnt believe in, they joined because they believed in the country they live in and on what this country was built and its morals and values and for what this country stands for.... None forced them to do anything. My husband does it because he chooses to, Noone makes him. He never had to enlist and never has to re-inlist but he chooses to because he loves what he does and he believes in it...... Go spit your ignorance at someone who isn't american or to someone who doesnt love this country and to someone who doesnt believe in fact the war is priority in our country being able to ensure a future for tomorrow.......
Rachael – Army Wife- HOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First of all Rachael,I'm John,not Achmed,and we should never engage in aggressive wars. That kind of policy ignited WW2. We need to get the Taliban and the Karzai regime together and find a peaceful solution instead of all this needless killing which is only bringing misery to the Afghans.
seems you forgot about 911 you sir are ignorant the terrorist are all over the middle east and the only reason you think the afghans dont want it is because they are intimidated into saying that use your damn head
A peaceful solution? You can't talk peace or call a jihadist to any meeting because they will kill you. The Taliban has declared Jihad on anyone who doesn't believe in their religion. They would kill you to secure a place in heaven or hold you for ransom or chop your head off in front of a camera. Damn you are ignorant. Do you always go on blogs you know nothing about and stumble into conversations with no practice knowledge of the topics? LOL
If Bush would have done what Obama is doing now... We would have been out a long time ago!!! Obama had to start all over again there to get where He is today... We have really only been fighting it for 2 years!!!
Define failure. I think its a success, even if we leave now. We can do more damage to them in the dark with our troops out. The war will never end... its just that we the people will not know it is happening.
yES i REMEMBER WHERE WE WERE ATTACK FROM. 15 OF THE ATTACKERS WERE FROM sAUDI ARABIA. HAVE YOU HEARD ANY CRITICISM OF THAT COUNTRY.
we buy Oil from them that makes revenue for haliburton. Why fight them?
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