Norine MacDonald talks to CNN's John King about why most Afghan people don't understand the American military presence.
mr haqkwah if the war in afghanistan was so illegal as you think, why is a lot of countries in the world are in afghanistan? so you think it was legal for afghanistan to host ossama ben laden and send his killers to kill 3000 innocent people of all descent in america. so you think it is ok to put bombs in planes in markets in chuches to kill has many innoncent people you can kill. it can be your sister your mother maybe even yourself in one of those planes. another one of those who doesnt understand why the us is in afghanistan. I thought that was the subjet of this discussion.
in america when there is a news, I mean big news. the media will bombard you with the same news days and nights until there is another story to a point where even if you do not have a radio or tv there is no way in the world you can say I didnt hear about it. in afghanistan I do not know what kind of media do they have. how in the world a country in war doen't know why they in war. there is no way possible. I am sure they know how to spell ossama ben laden if they dont then they diserve to be in war. Mr general peatrus keep pending until they undestand. no wonder they have been in war for so long. until they understand, they are going to keep have this wars. it is just like a child. until he burn is finger with fire he will keep playing with fire. Increase those nights raids to 110%. they will get it with time.
The US is carrying an illegal war against the Afghan people. Many lawayers and experts of international law have said so. For example, read the writings of Marjori Cohn, Michael Haas, Francis Boyle among others. These arguments applied since the beginning of the invasion in 2001. But, now read what has been scientifically discovered about the tragic events of 9/11, read AE911Truth where evidence is provided that 911 was not what the Bush administration claimed. It was a "falseflag" operation. The US main meda is not meeting its responsibility of informing the American people.
let me tell you about afghanistan. one village is completely different than the next. 1000 meters away is a different tribe and different life. some places i have been they thought WE were the russians!!!!! some families will live within sight of each other and never talk to each other. militarily, the US will win and wins every single time. we kill them over and over again (taliban). and let me tell you, in the helmand, 90 percent of all families are taliban, and i dont care. we are too advanced as a nation to fight the most uneducated nation in the world. we will never understand them. they will never understand us. NEVER. if you ask some of the educated people in afghanistan (that is all relative) they say the only way to "win" this war is with education and to allow education, you need to eradicate ALL military aged males and start over with the young kids. i believe him, but it will never happen. over all, we need to severely pull back, re consolidate forces and do point targeting with airstrikes or raids. stop with this infantry patrolling. we will never get rid of the taliban. it is an ideology. that is similar to getting rid of racism around the globe. send the troops back, save some money and leave some assets here to the likes of foreign military trainers and special operations and air support staged at major air bases. then we can do the long haul with out spending insane amounts of money and reduce the number of US casualties from pointlessly stepping on PMN land mines or IEDs. this is just my opinion.
Dindy: Thank You... I say it as I see it all the time!!!
Did the afghan people suffer brain damage or what? Have they heard of the taliban and the flimsy government they have?
U.S. looking for at Afghanistan CTHULHU but can not yet find it.
We are there because Afghanistan is a haven for Terrorists and is a useless country. We should turn it to glass. As an Australian, im sick of this anti americanism. Peoples comments on here are laughable as well. For example, The Russian Empire is the strongest. I think people need to go back to school. If Afghanistan wasnt such a dire state, we wouldnt be there. We live in the 21st centry people, not 5000bc babalon. These states need to be repaired. People talk about the presevation of culture. In my opinion, whats the point of preserving a culture that is so backward that they ban music. Its all about control. Im sick of these stupud loonies that stick up for the Taliban. Have people actually looked at the history of this sick twisted group. If i woke up tomorrow and on CNN it said "ALL TALIBAN DIED OF AIDS" i would crack open a bottle of beer and laugh. Lets move forward not backwards. Time to get rid of these useless people (Taliban not afghans) BRING ON THE DRONES. Drones dont sleep, but people do.
I KINDA DO\N'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU HAVE AGAINST THE SOVIET UNION OR THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE – THE GREATEST, THE MOST POWERFUL, THE BEST IN THE WORLD. BASICALLY THE WORLD'S SOLE SUPER POWER. ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT, ALWAYS WILL BE. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN LIVING IN MY GREAT NATION FOR MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRADE IT FOR ANYTHING. NOT FOR AUSSIE, NOT FOR EURO, AND OF COUIRSE NOT FOR THAT little ameri... AND I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER TO SEE ALL THESE FOREIGNERS WHO CAME INTO MY COPUNTRY GONE FOREVER, FOR GOOD, FOR ENERTNITY. ANYONE WHO INSTALLED THEIR BUSINESSES WHEN WE OPENED UP BORDERS BACK IN THE 90S, OR THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN MY COUNTRY. ALL OF 'EM SHOULD BE GONE FROM MY COUNTRY...
AS FOR little ameri ATTACKING OTHER COUNTRIES, I CAN ONLY SAY THEY FEEL SO ARROGANT AND SCOT-FREE BECAUSE THEY CAN PICK ON LITTLE COUNTRIES THAT CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE THEIR REACTION IF THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN ameri and CHINE, OR ameri or THE GREATEST RUSSIAN EMPIRE, OR ameri vs UNITED EUROPE. ALL THESE COUNTRIES WILL DEFEAT THIS little ameri WITH EASE AND JOY WITHIN MONTHS. PERIOD. THEY PICK ON COUNTRIES LIKE IRAQ OR VIETNAM THAT HAD NO WEAPONS OR MEANS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES, AND THEN GO AROUND THE WORLD STUPI DLYBRANDISHING WITN THEIR WEAPONS, LIKE FOOLS, IDIOTS, MORONS. AND AFTER THAT THEY CALL THEMSELVSS "GOOD" CHRISTIANS.
YEAH YOU GO AFTER A COUNTRY THAT HAS AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF WEAPONS OR EVEN STRONGER THAN YOU ARE. THEY WILL NEVER DO THAT, BECAUSE THESE little ameris ARE COWARDS. THEY'LL BE SHAKING IN THEIR BOOTS. ALWAYS REMEMBER – A GOOD ameri IS A DEAD ameri....
Friend, i am an American, and like most Americans, i believe in Americas great priniples of peace and the persuit of happiness. We do not attack countries for pure pleasure like you make it sound! we go to nations that are under attack and whos PEACE is under seige. We are out there to HELP people, and to help ONLY. WE DO NOT ATTACK COUNTRIES, UNLESS THEY ATTACK INNOCENT WOMEN, CHILDREN, AND OTHER PERSON WHO HAVE DONE NOTHING TO DESERVE SUCH SUFFERING AND BONDAGE!!!! YOU ARE BLIND TO THE FACTS, AND NEED TO ANALYZE THEM MORE CAREFULLY. RUSSIA AND THE UNITED STATES ARE ALLIES!! LETS STAY ON THE SAME SIDE...... THE SIDE THAT IS OUT THERE TO HELP PEOPLE....... AND YOUR COUNTRY IS GREAT, BUT THE WHOLE WORLD DEPENDS ON OURS. RESPECT US!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THOSE PEOPLE ARE FIGHTING THESE little ameri ONLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE FOREIGN MILITARY BASES IN THEIR COUNTRIES. I MYSELF WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE ANY FOREIGN MILITARY INSIDE MY COUNTRY. IF I WERE OF AFGHAN OR IRAQ ORIGIN I WOULD BE KILLING THESE little ameris MYSELF ON A DAILY BASIS. BUT ameris CAN'T DO IT TO MANY OTHER COUNTRIES – JUST THOSE THAT CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES. ameris ARE WORTHLESS AND STUPID IDIOTS!!!
We do not attack those who cannot protect themselves (innocents) we attack those who bring bondage and suffering, and those who pose as a threat to peace and the persuit of happiness.... also known as terrorist, who you yourself are catagorizing yourself into!! You seriously need a reality check, and need to, once again, analyze the facts.
I agree. People are completely blind to the fact, and post based on anything and everything non related to the subject: (WHY WE ARE INFGHANISTAN) and to all militay men and women who have posed on here: Thank you for your service and nonwaivering dediction even though faced with hell on the battle field, for you Warriors of America are the only ones who have the right to give information on how things should be done.
oh snap, they are dumber than americans :p
Which Afghan people? What ethnic groups? Why?
It's true that many Afghans hate both warlords AND the Taliban. It's a question of who they will hate less
Kevin,your post is undoubtedly one of the most stupid ones I've seen yet. Are you really that ignorant or are you trying to be funny or are you even the bozo who has been posting under my name?
A solution to problems that we are facing is a 50MN nuclear bomb that will destroy all mankid and put planet earth off course straight to the sun.
the ignorance of some of you people is incredible. "lucky we haven't nuked you" "quit harboring terrorists and we wouldn't be there" "your suicide bombers and murderers brought us to afghanistan" SERIOUSLY!?!?!?! WAKE UP!!!! stop believing what the american media is feeding you. we gave the so called terrorist power by backing them against the soviets and then just bailing out of their country when the soviets were gone. the only kind of authority were those who pushed out the soviets which were groups like the taliban. then we come back years later looking for a dude hiding in a cave? there is no evidence what so ever that osama bin laden was linked to 9/11 besides a video of "him" saying he did it. a bum on the street could say he did it but that doesn't mean he did OR had the capabilities of doing it. supporting and harboring terrorists? every arab nation in one way or another has and does do this. whether it be financial or media support of terrorism. mahmoud ahmadinejad openly supports terrorism. are we in Iran? NO. the majority of terrorists on 9/11 were saudis. has everyone forgottten that? did that change our ties to Saudi Arabia? NO. some dude in a cave in the mountains of afghanistan did not have the capabilities of carrying out such an attack. nice try using sadaam as the scapegoat. that evidence was convincing. NOT. maybe politicians should've done their homework before accusing sadaam. sadaam despised osama bin laden because of his religious views. and we're supposed to be the most powerful army in the world but can't catch the guy? give me a break. and dont give me that bs story of him going in and out of pakistan. that doesnt make a difference. the most powerful army in the world has the capabilites of sending in forces to a country like pakistan, undetected. so quit blaming civilians of a broken nation for our decision to fight there. our tactics and policies DO NOT work in afghanistan BECAUSE IT IS AFGHANISTAN. it isnt a western society. this land has had a way of life THOUSANDS of years before the US even was formed and you want them to change? get outta here. most afghans are trying to live their lives and are afraid of both sides because cooperating with one leads to consequences from the other. do your research and actually care about an important topic before you get on here and give your ignorant insight. "nuke them" grow up. its americans like you who have no regard for cultures and lives of other countries who give US citizens a bad name and that fuel the hate these extremists have for western society.
HEY DUDE, OR WHOEVER YOU ARE. THE SOVIET UNION AND THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE SAVED THE WHOLE WORLD FROM NAZIS AND fascists. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE SOVIET UNION, YOU'D HAVE HAD nazis ROAMING ALL OVER YOUR little ameri!! SO DON'T GIVE ME THAT BULL.. ABOUT ameri's OR european INVOLVEMENT IN THE WWII. YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE wwII WAS VERY MISERABLE, ALMOST NON-EXISTENCE. PERIOD. AND NOW YOU ARE BEGGING FOR OUR HELP WITH YOURI FAILED WARS IN AFGHAN AND IRAQ. IRAQ HAS ALREADY BEEN LOST, NOW THE TURN HAS COME TO LOSE AFGHAN. MISERABLE, POOR ameris. I FEEL PITY FOR YOU. BUT WHEN WE DROP A NUCLEAR BOMB ON YOUR ASS, I'LL SEE HOW YOU'RE GONNA REACT, DUNCES... WHEN YOU ARE GONNA CRAWL ON YOUR KNEES ASKING FOR OUR FOGIVENESS AND LINIENCY. BUT WE WON'T YIELD TO YOUR WHINING AND WEEPING. SORDID little ameris.
ameris and europeans ALWAYS FIGHTING, ALWAYS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. "GOOD" "CHRISTIAN" nation. YEAH GIMME A BREAK. YOU REMEMBER VIETNAM AND 6,000,000 DEAD??? YOU REMEMBER KOREA??? YOU REMEMBER A MILLION PEOPLE DEAD YOU ALREADY KILLED IN THE MIDDLE EAST?? EVIL, CRUEL, MURDEROUS REGIMES. ALWAYS REMEMBER – A GOOD ameri is A DEAD ameri...
JOSEPH STALIN IS MY HERO, ONE OF THE BEST WORLD LEADERS OF THE 20TH I CENTURY. THERE CAN'T BE WORSE "humans" ON THE PLANET THAN bush and cheney. DEATH TO THIS ASSH...S. IF THEY KILLED SADDAM HUSSEIN, THEN THEY SHOULD BE HANGED ON A TREE BRACH JUST AS WELL.
yeah, yeah yeah, earopeans and ameris – ALWAYS FIGHTING, ALWAYS KILLING EACH OTHER. FOR THE LAST 3,000 YEARS WE HAD NOTHING BUT WARS, NOTHING BUT MURDERS AND KILLINGS. AND NOW YOU WANT TO MAKE US BELIEVE YOU ARE GOOD-NATURED PEOPLE AND NATION. GIMME A BREAK!!
YEAH YOU FIRST GO TELL YOUR polacks TO APOLOGIZE TO THE SOVIET UNION FOR THE DEATHS OF THE THOUSANDS OF SOVIET SOLDIERS HELD HOSTAGE DURING THE 1918 TO 1922 BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT THE wwii. OR YOUR PROPAGANDA INITIAED BY THE ameris ABOUT the murder OF THE POLAKS ALLEGEDLY COMMITTED BY THE SOVIET UNION WHICH ACTUALLY WAS COMMITTED BY THE nazis FROM THE fascist germany
USA has the highest crime rate in the world, they are bankrupt, they have starving illiterate people,.. I'm positive that Americans wouldn't understand, if some country came in and blew the crap out of the usa to 'help' them..
Why? Because We signed a treaty with the Taliban to build an oil pipeline that they then refused to honor after spending bookoo millions. So the rich elite created 911 to justify attacking Iraq (old agenda) and Afghanistan so that the military industrial complex could spend trillions in American taxpayer debt for profit in the process of routing the Taliban to put in the pipeline and make America pay for it all the while exporting all our good jobs and leaving us holding the bag.
The United States doesn't care about who and how you worship....this is NOT about religion...even though you keep pushing that issue. This is about VIOLENCE..period. You have suicide bombers and terrorist committing horrible crimes against humanity in the name of GOD or whatever you call your Holy Being....We don't care about YOUR GOD...we care about keeping VIOLENCE away from innocent women and children on American soil. This Religion thing is all MAN MADE. It is an excuse to declare war. IF THERE WERE NO RELIGIONS,,, NONE AT ALL, AND WE WERE ALL TRUELY SPIRITUAL BEINGS....THERE WOULD BE NO WARS. OUR TRUE SPIRITUAL BEING WOULD NOT ALLOW IT. RELIGION IS A MAN MADE WAY TO CONTROL PEOPLE. You can believe in God and be Spiritual...without RELIGION. Religion does nothing but build hate against others.
If it wasn't for America...most of the world would still be riding donkeys and sending messages by smoke signals....In the last 100 years alone, the WHOLE WORLD has BENIFITED from our Generous sharing of OUR inventions. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.
If the US packed up..and left the MIddle East all together RIGHT NOW...it would IMPLODE. May I remind a few posters..that Saudia Arabia ASKED the US to HELP when Saddam invaded Kuwait. You can't have it both ways. Same with Europe in WWII. We tried really, really hard to stay out of that war. Europe was BEGGING for OUR Help. It took an attack ON the US before we HAD to join the war. So many countries HATE the US....UNTIL something goes wrong. THEN it OH HELP US>>>HELP US. Once again you CAN"T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. Also, we have the right to go after agressors that attack US citizens on OUR on soil. If any country wants to protect them...then they suffer the rath as well. If the US is soooo bad, then WHY are people knocking down the doors to GET IN??? I am so sick and tired of America Bashing. What would the world be like if we became Isolationist. CLose our borders, bring ALL our men and women home, and let the rest of the World figure their own problems out??? We tried that once with WWII and you ended up having a MAD MAN almost take over ALL of Europe. Does the Middle East REALLY WANT THE TALIBAN TO RULE THEM???? IF NOT ...stay out of the way, and let us do our missions. Help would be nice, since we are trying to pull you out of the middle ages at the same time. And to blame us for ALL the worlds problems for hundreds of years???? WE are NOT that old.....WE are a baby country compared to Europe and the Middle East. FOR THOUSANDS of years.....there has ALWAYS been war across the ocean...it DIDN't start with us...the USA. But it might end with US.
FIRST HAVE A LOOK YOURSELF from YOUR MIRROR .
yeah, YEAH NOTHING BUT FULL OF GARBAGE!!! WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR BUCKS OR YOUR TECHNOLOGY??? OTHER COUNTRIES ARE MUCH MUCH BETTER THAN THIS little ameri... VERY SORDID AND MISERABLE PIECE OF LAND. WE ACTUALLY WANT YOU TO ISOLATE YOURSELVES. LEAVE OTHER COUNTRIES ALONE. THE WORLD AT LARGE WILL BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOU!!!
Tell them the truth! All they want is the truth! Tell them about 9/11 so they can on our side! HURRY!!!!
9/11 is a reaction ..? For what ?
Natural resources. Couple days ago germany declared enemies: lock of resources was nambr van. Germany created war in Yugoslavia. Since Helmuth Kohl they suported albanian militia. Kosovo is one of the last natural resources in europe. Iraq and Afgach are the same game.
once it was Russians....now its Muslims (who hold most of the oil reserves....)
the Big Brother needs a scapegoat to run his weapons industry and energy needs....the rest is bla..bla..of small people...
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE WORLD'S RUSSIAN EMPIRE AND THE WORLD'S GREATEST SOVIET UNION THAN ALWAYS!!! HAD MOST NATURAL RESOURCES IN THE WORLD. IF ONLY muslims LEFT US ALONE, INCLUDING chechen terrorists (who still have ameris support).
GET THE HELL OUT OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE AND THE SOVIET UNION. WE WANT ALL OF YOU OUT OF OUR NATION, THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPER NATION....
YEAH YOU HYPOCRITS IF YOU CLAIM THE IRAQUI WAR WAS A NECESSITY (ALONG WITH A MURDER OF ALMOST 1 ML INNOCENT PEOPLE) BOTH IN IRAQ AND AFGHAN, THEN YOU ARE A COMPLTELY BRAIN-WASHED IDIOT. YOUR GOVERNMENT SPREAD THE LIES ABOUT THE 9-1-1 EVENTS, AND THEN INVADED A COMPLETELY INNOCENT COUNTRY THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR bush-a-cheney-blowing-up-the-towers-in-an-underground-explosion type of thing. BY THE WAY, DO YOU KNOW THAT SADDAM HUSSEIN (ONE OF THE BEST WORLD LEADERS OF THE MIDDLE EAST) IS MY UNCLE? IF NOT, THEN BE IT KNOWN THAT ONE DAY WE ARE GONNA DELIVER A REAVENGE ON YOU. HE'S MY HERO AND IT'S MY DUTY TO BE FIGHTING AGAINST THESE MURDERERS AND COLD-BLOODED KILLERS!!!
Come on now Roy. The US is in Afghanistan so they can lay a pipeline for natural gas and mine mineral riches? Yet we have been there for eight years and no such thing has happened. Using factual information explain to me how you've come to this conclusion. Surfing the internet and reading conspiracy theroist blogs does not count as factual information. Some people have alot of time on their hands and have nothing better to do than to dream up fictional stories in order to blame the world for their faults in life. I'm guessing your one of them. However I do agree with your views on religion and the fact that many people, not just Americans, are ill informed. That is also something I believe we will eventually evolve beyond. You can see it happening now with my generation, more and more of us are no longer religious, we are spiritual. And to your thoughts on America collasping, America will never completely collapse, our people are too reseilent and strong for that to happen. One more thing Roy, before you claim that someone or something is hypocritical, it would behoove you to not include that statement in a hypocritical post, it makes you sound ignorant.
very well written!
SINCE THE ameri's INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO, (10 YEARS HAHAHA), DRUG-CULTIVATION AND DRUG-TRAFFICKING HAS INCREASED 40-FOLD. 40-FOLD!, AND THAT LITTLE ameri WANTS TO CLAIM IT'S FIGHTING DRUGS THERE??? YEAH, GIVE ME A BREAK. THEY ONLY CREATE MORE PROBLEMS FOR OTHERS. REALLY VERY, VERY EVIL, CORRUPT little country!!!
THE SOVIET UNION AND THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE (THE WORLD'S GREATEST) SAVED YOUR SORDID ASSES FROM FASCISM AND NAZISM DURING THE WWII. HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE SOVIET UNION YOU WOULD BE DOING "HEIL HITLER" NOWADAYS. THE SOVIET UNION BASICALLY SAVED THE WHOLE WORLD FROM THAT TERRIBLE DECEASE. AND NOW YOU SPREAD ANOTHER FILTHY DECEASE AROUND THE WORLD YOU CALL "democracy" THE HELL WITH YOU AND YOUR STUPID democracy YOU LITTLE HYPOCRATS!!!
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE ALONE IS LIKE THREE little u.s. YOU KNOW DONKEYS THAT YOU STILL OWE US ALASKA. WE IN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE HAVE ORGAZINED A POLITICAL PARTY TO TAKE ALASKA FROM YOU, little PIGS. GIVE US OUR LAND BACK, DUSHBAGS. IF YOU DON'T THEN WE ARE GONNA DECLARE A WAR ON YOU (WWIII) AND THEN RECPATURE THE LAND. OTHERWISE ALL OF YOU WILL BE BLOWN IN A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION!!! THIS WAY OR ANOTHER. SO WHAT'S IT GONNA BE??? YOU'LL BE OBLITARATED, DESTROYED, ANNIHILATED OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH. MISERABLE, SORDID little americans. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE OF WHAT AWAIT YOU, WHAT PROSPECTS ARE IN STORE FOR YOU (WALMART STORE, perhaps. JUST A PUN). SO LITTLE PIGS GET READY FOR A FINAL CONFESSION. SOMETHING TERRIBLE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN TO YOU!!!
dude the soviets would've stood ZERO chance if the UNITED STATES hadn't entered the war and cause Hitler to fight wars on various sides. don't even try to say Great Britain was already fighitng Hitler on multiple sides because GB was one step away from being destroyed. if the soviets were such great people and the soviet union such a great country you would think youd want to spare some of your people instead of telling them to run WITHOUT A WEAPON TOWARDS GERMAN MACHINE GUNS. Stalin was worse than Hitler. bet you didn't know that hot shot. long live the soviets and the millions of people they killed. just now confessing to the polish officer massacre
this post only showed me your level of ignorance and stupidity. THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE – IS THE WORLD'S GREATEST, THE WORLD'S BEST. ONLY REMEMBER THAT, YOU LITTLE PIG. THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE IS THE WORLD'S MOST POWERFUL SUPER NATION. TO BE SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST MY COUNTRY WOULD BE INSANELY DANGEROUS BECAUSE I MYSELF WOULD BE THE FIST ONE TO SHOOT YOU DEAD THRU YOUR HEAD. YOU'LL BE LYING ON THE PAVEMENT WITH A GUNSHOT WOUND DYING AND I WOULDN'T EVEN COME UP TO YOU TO HELP YOU. EVEN IF I DO I WOULD BE KICKING YOU UNTIL YOU COMPLETELY DIED. YOU AMERICANS ARE FULL OF ARROGANCE THAT WILL ONE DAY COME HAUNTING YOU. STAY THE HELL OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES, INCLDUING THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPER NATION. YOU REMEMBER HOW WE ALMOST BLEW YOU UP INTO SMITHEREENS BACK IN THE 60S??? YOU WANNA REPEAT THE SAME EXPERIENCE ONCE AGAIN. YEAG BRING IT ON, AND WE'LL SHOW YOU, DONKEYS. FILTHY PIGS AND MONKEY. YOU GO TELL THAT TO YOUR CORRUPT FASCIST GOVERNMENT INCLDUING YOUR MONKEY IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!
Kevin... well written
Very good .post kevin
jasonlee99....wow. you and that other sicko are related no doubt.
F. OFF, YOU MO....-FU...., hopeless. GO F. YOURSELF!!
Come on Phunnie boy,I don't so much mind you posting your jokes under my name or that of jasonlee99 but will you kindly leave the Tea Party lingo out of it? You'd think that Sarah Palin or one of her followers was posting in here.Please Phunnie boy,please!
I'm quite confident we could find plenty of ignorant Americans who couldn't name all 50 states (or all 54 in Obama's non-teleprompter world). So it doesn't surprise me that some Afghans don't know what's going on, either. Keep in mind Afghanistan is an isolated country with neighboring villages, separated by mountains, who don't know of each others' existence. Way to go on this one, CNN. How about reporting news instead of promoting your left wing bleeding heart causes all the time?
People of Afghanistan, I should also add that most Americans believe in an intolerant and bloodthirsty God, and they get a huge thrill out of killing Muslims. These Americans are too stupid and ill-informed to understand that Allah and the God of the Bible are the same deity, and that he is a God of love, forgiveness and mercy. Their violent, hate-filled and intolerant version of Christianity is destroying their country which is deeply in debt and likely to collapse soon. The rest of the world can only hope that the USA does not destroy the rest of the world in its death-throes. If the rest of us can surviive the fall of the US, we can build a better, kinder world. The US is the most hypocritical, evil country in the world.
The US are in your country because they want to run a pipeline through it to get to the oil and natural gas in the Caspian basin, and because they want to get at the mineral riches in your country. Also, at one time they wanted to catch the late Osama bin Laden, but the Taliban asked for evidence that he was involved in 9/11 (a terrorist attack on the US) and the US had no evidence, so the US attacked the Taliban instead. If the Us had been able to provide convincing evidence that bin Laden had masterminded 9/11, the Taliban were prepared to catch him and hand him over. Of course he has now been dead for years. People of Afghanistan, you have a long and proud history of defeating foreign invaders. Keep it up and throw those American imperialists out!
gouverment and c.i.a. bankers, usa is not a democratie but a corporation with designer crimes al quada my ass. al cia sound better.
@c.i.a. – Idiot
am i suppose to be scared tell me genius that the u.s is a friendly country you dont invade other for oil or minerals the only idiot here is you and your ignorance.
Ask the Afeghan people if they know who is Osana Bin Laden. Probably 92% will tell you they have no idea who he is. That is the reason they cannot understand why their homes have been destroyed, why they have no jobs and the drug lords are back and strong than never.
I was working in Pakistan and Afeganistan at 2001. The people has heard of the mistakes that resulted in bombing Wedding parties and hospitals, but they have not heard about a proper process andthat a formal request of extradition of a man called Osana Bin Laden has been formally dennied.
enough ..enough..where is the Magic Donkey....where is it? which plain it is hiding if alive? Pray for precious men and women who are after it. Pray for civilians. Once we have stepped in it is the best thing to do right in this moment. These discussions cant help the troops who are already there.
Afgans just are luckly that the USA in not fighting strongly to win it, otherwise we would have been OUTA THERE 8 years ago.
Oh, but that was on my neloved Presidents Bush's watch....ops, hm, nevermind.
IT IS PRESIDENT OBAMA's FAULT!!!!
More right-wing bla-bla-bla!!!
The US is there because Afgans is their infinate stupidity decided to harbor terroists and murderers. Deal with it.
92% ?? What's the margin or error? +2 /-90 ? An Afghan today will provide whatever answer he believes will not get him beheaded as soon as the polster leaves. What a ridiculus article. And why even ask. The US is there to ensure the Taliban never rules Afganistan again. They provided safe haven to a criminal organization that committed mass murder in the US and untill all those responsible are brought to justice or eliminated, the US military has the right and should continue the clean-up. Make no mistake, Afghans know exactly why the US is there – remember that Muslims don't feel morally obligated to tell the truth like normal people – in fact lying and deception is condoned by thier religion. But one thing they do understand the need to avenge the 9/11 deaths. That requires the elimination of al quaida and the taliban – regardless of how long it takes. Unfortunately, I think there will always be a need of some sort of oversight, even if only by armed remote drones to ensure compliance.
epo ..well written.
PAKIS....are the best to lick shoes. we see it every day here. They lick shoes of government leaders to get piece of land here. Talking Big and proud for nothing . Depending on US money too but talking big.
American people we are over there for two reasons. First the minerals, secondly to build that nice oil pipeline. don't believe the lies they are telling you.We're trying to finish what the Russians couldn't do. Ooh why can't we found one man running around in the Afghan mountains? Something stinks about that. Would you spend billions of dollars for Afghan people? Yes, if you know you would be compensated by means of minerals worth trillions of dollars and a bonus pipeline.
GO TO HELL WITH YOUR BUCKS, MURDERERS, COLD-BLOODED KILLERS!! The talibs are gonna destroy you and blow you up into smithereens!! NUKE THEM ALL!!!
CRAZY YOU ARE, dindy!! THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO START ANOTHER COLD WAR WITH THAT LITTLE miserable COUNTRY. I WANT ALL AMERICANS TO BE OUT OF OTHER COUNTRIES (INCLUDING THE GREATEST RUSSIAN EMPIRE – THE WORLD'S BEST)? HOW CAN WE DEPEND ON YOUR AID, MORON, WHEN I WANT TO START ANOTHER WAR WITH YOU (AND NOT ONLY COLD ONE). THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE IS THE SELF-SUFFICIENT NATION, WE PROVIDE FOR OURSELVES, AND HELP OUT ALLIES AROUND THE WORLD. THAT'S WHY IF YOU JUST DISAPPEAR OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, I WOULD EVEN CARE A RAP!!!!
A GOOD american is a dead american!!!
oH YEAH.............YOU MUST BE ANOTHER ONE WHO STILL DEPEND ON AMERICAN AID . HAVE SEEN MANY OF YOU WHO TALK PROUD BUT DEPENDING ON AID FROM USA.
Beautifully put,Memnoch. Thank you. And you too,jasonlee99.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST LEAVE THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE ALONE??? WHAT DO YOU NEED THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE'S COOPERATION?/ BESIDES, YOU BRIBE THE RUSSIAN POLITICIANS (GIVE THEM KICK-BACKS AND LOYALTY PAYMENTS) AND THEN TRY TO FIND YOUR OWN WAY IN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE. THESE ARE CRIMINAL CORRUPT WAYS!!!
IF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE STARTS ANOTHER COLD WAR WITH THAT LITTLE COUNTRY, IT WILL BE MUCH, MUCH BETTER!!! HOW CAN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE GET RID OF ALL THAT???
IT WILL BE BETTER OFF FOR EVERYONE CONCERNED IF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE STOPS COOPERATING WITH THESE little MONSTERS (LIKE THE u.s) A L T O G E T H E R!!! THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE SHOULD STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT COUNTRIES (LIKE THE us) WANT OR WISH!! IT WILL BE BETTER OFF FOR EVERYONE. WE SHOULD STAY ENEMIES FOR ANY UNFORSEEABLE FUTURE, JUST LIKE DURING THE COLD WAR...
NO OIL OR NATURAL RESOURCES FOR THESE PARASITES (LIKE THE u.s) FROM THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE – THE WORLD'S GREATEST. SCRAM FROM THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE, YOU PARASITIC, EXPLOITATIVE FORCES (little countries like the u.s) WHO GIVE NOTHING TO THIS WORLD BUT BRING ABOUT PROBLEMS AND DESTRUCTION. HANDS OFF THE SOVIET UNION AND THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!!!
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE – IS THE WORLD'S GREATEST SUPER NATION, THE WORLD'S SOLE SUPER POWER!!! NO COUNTRY IS BETTER THAN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE. THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY JEALOUS, EVNIOUS COUNTRIES (like the u.s.) WHO ALWAYS WANT A PART OF THE RUSSIAN PIE. THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE SHOULD BE WORKING HARD TO GET RID OF ALL THESE HANGERS-ON, THESE WORTHLESS, GOOD-FOR-NOTHING PARASITES, WHO GIVE NOTHING ELSE TO THIS WORLD BUT DESTRUCTION AND DEATH...
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE AND ITS ALLIES (EXCLUDING THE u.s, OF COURSE.), WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL IN DEFEATING THEIR ENEMIES, IN DESTROYING WHAT THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE HATES.
HIP-HIP HOORAY TO THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE!!! IT WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST AND THE GREATEST SUPER EMPIRE ON THE PLANET. THE ENEMIES OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE WILL HAVE NO MERCY, AND WILL NEVER SURVIVE – FROM ALL THE COUNTRIES, FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD!!! NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT...
NO COUNTRY ON THE PLANET CAN OR EVER WILL BE COMPARED WITH THE GREATEST AND GRANDEUR OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE – THE BEST, THE GREATEST. THE WORLD'S BEST SUPER NATION, THE WORLD'S BEST TERRAIN!!
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE WILL DESTROY ALL OF ITS ENEMIES WITHIN MONTHS!!!
THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE IS THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD!!
what's going on here??
God Must punish all these people who post under others names .They are as bad as insurgents.
Better still, they are infidels which of course is everyone not of your religion. In fact, come to think of it, Infidels are the largest and fastest growing of all faith based groups. Infidels are the only religious group that includes members of all faiths (Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus etc) plus every kind of athiest and agnostic. Which means that all Gods people are Infidels and only Infidels can be admitted to Paradise (Heaven). Perspective is everything.
I agree with that, especially this Phunnie boy who usually keeps on posting under the name of Bledsoe,poking fun at the troops over. I personally hate this obnoxious war but I don't appreciate him making fun of it.
NOVEMBER 23 RD AT 6.53 PM NOT MY POST.
Nov 26th ..7.53pm not my post
Poor humans... though you are the only race of your kind in this universe, yet so much hatred you have in your hearts. I pity you, becuase when judgement comes, you will all burn up. Salvation and mercy will not be granted to you, you ripped cruelty and violence and thus, that what you will sow. Your gods, the mere creation of your imagination fo will not save you but yourselves alone. You guys just make me laugh.
The problem is we as a nation are to splintered to conduct a war to the end. We have so many people who worry how we treat America's enemies more than the deaths inflicted on Americans, that even our government is afraid to conduct a full scale war. Pakistan and many other Islamist governments continue to support terrorist activities against the U.S. and as long as we continue to hold back the more likely armegeddon will eventually occur. We as a people are to afraid to do what is necessary, bring back the draft and build our military up to the strength needed to end this conflict. Kow-towing to China, fear of Russia; we need to put away our white hat and start wearing the black one.
No one can fight with rules where no one obeys rules .For Official Armies like US AND NATO has to obey international rules when they fight against insurgents. Yet the other party does not apply rules when they attack in such brutal ways. Yet ...Do not underestimate US military Power because they have been very patient all these nine years in Afghanistan.
The intergrity of the upright guides them, but the unfaithful are destroyed by their duplicity.
YOU NAILED IT LARRY.....IS NOT MY POST. DID NOT POST ON NOV 25TH 12.16AM
The only way We will ever get PEACE in This Country will get rid of the Right Wings of the World!!! Because they are cause of all the Problems here and the rest of the World...
Larry...I am sorry ..I dont know who these Right wings are that you all talk about time to time.
I do,Dindy. Anybody with half a brain knows that they are members of the MIC(military-industrial-complex) who have both the President and members of Congress in their pockets!!!
You guys are all hindu (lame). You are hindered by your lack of hindu (knowledge) because you hindu (can't) understand what it means to be a hindu (hindu). You claim what you have claimed because a truckload of hindu (filthy racists) punched you in the hindu (fartbox) when you were trying to make a hindu (baby) in the front seat of a ford F1hindu (50).
I would have to say that if 'history is repeating itself all over, again", then the Afghani people would not have to bother to ask why we are there. To be sure, in the more obvious ways history is repeating itself: foreign powers competing for resources outside their area and for trans-regional access across, relatively speaking, an easily traversable country in terms of distribution and tarrifs; and ideologically, from when Persian dynasties competing with Hindu over cultural supremacy for centuries to the Cold War..throughout, the people of Afghanistan that can call themselves indigenous, or at least well outside the patronage of regional neighbors, are probably very familiar with the predominant role their country, even when it was not a country, has played in the region for the majority of its history. Afghanistan has been a concubine. And it seems, ancillary to this history, that within the Afghani culture there has been added the permanent element conflict. Pashtuns, in particular, comprising the dominant majority, and being the strongest contingent within the Taliban, apparently, eat it up. Its been noted by many a visitor, scholars and others, that the Pashtuns 'love'a good fight.
But, no doubt, even they are getting tired. The conflict, especially on the contemporary battle field, has obviously taken its toll. And, somewhat contrary to the above, our intervention has brought something new that they may have had some preliminary introductions to via the Soviets, but, definitly more punctuated with our presence; our mantra, throughout, has been that they must learn to govern themselves, for their own benefit and for their own protection. Ironically, it may be THAT which is confusing them most. "If your not here just to fight us, if your not here just to take from us, then, what do you want?" " We want you to be self sufficient, stable, and democratic..to the benefit of you, and everyone else." Perhaps, and should be to no surprise, what is confusing many of the Afghani people is the desire of many ( I will not say all) to include them into an international community of stable and reliable nations. Something no one has tried before, not genuinely.
I wish I knew you so I could smack you across the face with a dictionary. Did you feel smart writing this? Did you? I know I'm impressed.......
They're Afghan people, not Afghani
What's the difference between Muhammad and a brown paper bag? Muhamad sleeps with little girls and a brown paper bag carries groceries....
Ones useful the other is not
Aren't you afraid that the comment you posted may offend the Muslims,Slippery Pete?
I think that bombing afgan is ok as long as we are capturing leaders of terroists.
I just eat three Arby's Beef and Chedders and a large curly frie. I hope my bidy is ok.
America is there because America wants the blue stones and all the natural resources that were recently found.
Bien puesto,bailoutsos. Tiene razon.
Obviously, these uneducated dirt farmers' sole source of information is from their lying muslim clerics.
I notice they only asked men and not women. Oh, the muslim extremists probably wouldn't like it if women were interviewed. I notice they also didn't ask if they preferred the Taliban over NATO.
The White man always knows what's best for people of color.
That's why they are there. They come to civilize the Afghans. Unfortunately US has not learned from European colonialists. Ever why so many Africans, Indians, Muslims, etc., are in England, France, Spain, etc. After US colonize Afghanistan, do not be surprised when in the next decade or so, you see a lot of Afghans right here in US backyards.
I have actually been in Afghanistan and most of the people posting in this thread have obviously not. If you ran into an appartment to put out a fire and saw that the rest of the apartments were decrepit and the children were starving and abused...would you leave as soon as the fire was out because "you're just doing your job"?
We went for reasons of supressing terrorism. Those reasons may or may not have been founded on solid evidence. Not all evidence can be provided to the public or even other goverments without releaving sources which may get people killed. Not implying that is what happened in this situation, just stating that it is a frequent reality.
While we were there, it is impossible to not see the many ways we can help a people and a goverment in the sorry state we observed. It would be inhumane if we could ignore the kinds of things I saw. In Kabul, the capitol, there were Afghans that I would have trusted with my life as much as my fellow soldiers. Many of them knew that we were resposible for relieving the religeous suppression they had lived under their whole lives and loved the uniform for all it represents. Most Afghans did not have the religious fervour that the Taliban government had imposed on them.
A poll like this can be GREATLY skewed by moving several miles away from major cities. Mass media...is almost non-existant in their world. Additionally, in the poorer population, they follow the money, not for greed, but to sustain their lives. They don't have time for "politics" when they are worried about where their next meal will come from. In that situation, if a drug lord, who was in power during the Taliban regime, offers to pay them a wage which is pathetic but will feed an extended familiy of as many as ten or more, they take it. Their opinions will fall to sustaining that situation regardless of the negative ramifications because their next meal for the family relies on it.
I will be the last to claim that our goverment is not there making the most of the situation to gain power, etc. The reason the soldiers are there and are willing to do what they do is because the people DO needs us. Leaving now dooms them to a return of the situation they were in before we came and to repeat this whole process.
Thank you for your time posting this in details. VERY GOOD POST .THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU SIR.
I'm ctually here right now but actually got so bored by your post I actually stopped reading it...actually.
...forgot the 'a' on my first 'actually'. I'm actually sorry about that and am going to take a nap now because your post actually put me to sleep!
First, it's been known for a long time that Afghanistan has resources we can use as well as a quicker route for resource pipelines. Russia wanted it for these reasons and so do we. Go do some fact checking on Enron and you'll find that they wined and dined the Taliban and the Taliban said no. As for the Afghans harboring Bin Laden...okay but that's like saying if he went to the wilderness of Alaska 300 years ago and blaming the Eskimo nation for hiding him. It's simpleton thinking. And by the way, there is nothing wrong with the way they live...just because they don't have 4 lane highways doesn't make their lifestyle wrong. It's where we all may be when our Oil based economy, lives, and technology all fade away with the finite resource we live on. Which brings me to another point or myth I would like to address – we don't want anymore United States of America on this planet. So all of you people that believe we are helping the rest of the world by making them us are delusional. Let me clarify, the Earth is a cake and there isn't more caked being made, there is already one FAT KID at the party and that's the US. You certainly don't want more fat kids coming to the party, there is not enough cake to go around. We live in this great country and we're wasteful, greedy and selfish and if you don't believe that you're just naive. If a country has something we can use, we care about them, if not we could care less. We use countries and people around this world for our puposes, that's it. That's what we're all a part of. You either play our game or you pay. We've brought down democracies when they didn't drink our koolaid and we've played ball with dictators as long as they drink our koolaid.
EXACTLY, I AGREE. IT JUST SHOWS ME HOW CORRUPT AND MURDEROUS THAT ameri HAS BECOME. ACTUALLY ALWAYS BEEN. AND BY THE WAY, ALASKA IS A PART OF THE GREATEST RUSSIAN EMPIRE. YOU STILL OWE US THE LAND. SO WE ARE GONNA TAKE IT FROM YOU BY FORCE, IF NOT GIVEN BACK TO US VOLUNTARILY. THIS WAY WE ARE GONNA TEACH YOU A LESSON FOR YOUR ASSOGANCE AND STUPIDITY. GET READY FOR HAVING BEEN ANNIHILATED OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH. LAST TIMES YOU BRING WARS TO OTHERS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE VICE VERSA. WE ARE GONNA BRING A WAR TO YOU. YOU'VE BEEN IN VIETNAM FOR 20 YEARS, AND COULDN'T DO RAP WITH THAT COUNTRY. THEY KICKED YOU OUT EASILY OF THEIR COUNTRY. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT'S IN STORE FOR YOU WHEN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE INVADES THAT LITTLE ameri.
EXACTLY, I AGREE. IT JUST SHOWS ME HOW CORRUPT AND MURDEROUS THAT ameri HAS BECOME. ACTUALLY ALWAYS BEEN. AND BY THE WAY, ALASKA IS A PART OF THE GREATEST RUSSIAN EMPIRE. YOU STILL OWE US THE LAND. SO WE ARE GONNA TAKE IT FROM YOU BY FORCE, IF NOT GIVEN BACK TO US VOLUNTARILY. THIS WAY WE ARE GONNA TEACH YOU A LESSON FOR YOUR ARROGANCE AND STUPIDITY. GET READY FOR HAVING BEEN ANNIHILATED OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH. LAST TIMES YOU BRING WARS TO OTHERS, BUT THIS TIME IT'S GONNA BE VICE VERSA. WE ARE GONNA BRING A WAR TO YOU. YOU'VE BEEN IN VIETNAM FOR 20 YEARS, AND COULDN'T DO RAP WITH THAT COUNTRY. THEY KICKED YOU OUT EASILY OF THEIR COUNTRY. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT'S IN STORE FOR YOU WHEN THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE INVADES THAT LITTLE ameri.
yeah, YOU ALSO WON IN VIETNAM, IN NORTH KOREA, YOU WON IN IRAQ. GO AHEAD TELL ALL OF YOUR LIES AND PHONY PROPAGANDA... MISERABLE little ameri
We are there to kill people, and what better group of people to kill than a bunch of Muzzies....OURAH !!!
Last I heard, 80% of Afghans wanted us to be there, so I'm not sure that they're really all that confused about our presence.
"The US should stay out of the muslim world and muslims should stay out of the US" -CITIZEN
As a US service member, I agree removing ourselves from the muslim world would be the way to go, except that I'm typing this comment on a plastic laptop made from petroleum, using electricity made possible by petroleum that keeps the powerplant running, wearing shoes and synthetic blend sweats made partially from petroleum products, and after I am finished I will get in my car and drive to lunch using...petroleum.
The muslim world is also the oil producing world, and the standard of living (no matter how "green" you try to be) US citizens and our national security depends on having a steady supply of affordable petroleum. It is a simply reality we must accept. If we disengage from the middle east, it will fall completely under the control of extremists, we will be taken hostage by belligerent regimes who hold our lifesblood in their hands, our economy will collapse, and our national defense apparatus will be crippled as a result. OIL IS VITAL TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY AND STANDARD OF LIVING. As long as this is the case, we must be involved in the middle east, unless Americans are willing to have a standard of living more similar to that of Mexico or other poor central American nations. It is true Europe and Canada have a high standard of living without being decisively engaged, diplomatically and militarily in the middle east, but they are benefitting directly from the stability we provide in the region through diplomatic and military engagement.
I am certainly not an environmentalist, but I believe we should begin a Manhattan Project level initiative to identify and develop a practical, inexpensive alternative energy source to replace petroleum. If we could eliminate our dependency on foreign oil. We could ignore the middle east much like we do Africa. The reason we are able to intervene in Africa only when we "feel like it" as opposed to being compelled to act as in the middle east is because Africa does not have anything we need. Don't be naive and think nation states make decisions based on morality or ideology. Necessity is the ideology of nation states. Until we eliminate the necessity of oil to support American interests, we cannot disengage from the middle east without suffering the complete collapse of our economy and national security.
What's the difference between Muhammad and a brown paper bag? Muhamad sleeps with little girls and a brown paper bag carries groceries.
YOU MEAN AMERICANS SHOULD LIVE ON SUCKING THE BLOOD OF POOR NATIONS. SHAME
Chris......VERY GOOD POST.
9-1-1 WAS A GRAND . TO KILL 3,000,000 little yankies (not necessarily 3K) SHOULD BE A GOAL OF EVERY PATRIOT OR NATIONALIST FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. I WAS OVERFILLED WITH JOY AND HAPPINESS WHEN I FIRST SAW THOSE MONKEYS JUMPING OFF THE BRIDGES OR HIGH- RISES IN new york or ELSEWHERE. WHAT A GREAT SIGHT!!!
All those yankees took a shi-t in Quar-an first then jumped.
LETS GET OUT AND IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM NUKE IM
Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11. 12 of the 16 hijackers were fron Saudi Arabia; why didn't we invade them? And the Afghanistran gov said that they'd gladly hand over Osama if they provided proof but we had no proof. The Bush Admin had him cornered in Tora Bora and they let him go. This is all a big joke.
Saudi kings are real snakes.
they know exactly why we are there. the culture in the region is to pretend not to know so they can't be blamed. they do it for everything negative. even with each other. visit sometime and you'll see. it happens everywhere people are oppressed as a survival tool.
You got that right! Muslims are born to Lie ...All praise Allah!!
VERY TRUE. WELL WRITTEN
This poll is non-sense. The Afghan men polled were being less than honest in their response to this poll. Bin Laden, al Queda, the Taliban, and of course, the thousands of innocent American citizens who died at the hands of the Afghanistan based al Queda are one reason we went to Afghanistan. Many Afghan citizens have been killed in the past few years since we went over there as a result of this conflict. Collateral consequences would also occur is someone called in a bomb threat to some arbitrary place, even though there would not a bomb in this hypothetical sceniro, said building must be evacuated, and during this emergency process, a few elderly people have heart attacks and die from the stress, a child falls down some stairs and dies, etc. etc. When Bin Laden and al Queda started murdering innocent working citizens using Afghanistan as their base with the Taliban, then this needed to be truncated as much as possible. Let us not forget the plight of women in Afghanistan. We should have never gone into Iraq, as that ended up being a larger crime than Bin Laden's 9/11, consequently propelling Iran upward militarily, and destabilizing that region, though putting the USA in dept and enriching Dick Cheny's cronies in the CMIC. I hope we can stop the terrorists who threaten the world with their murderous agenda. Afghanistan needs to be resolved at the earliest convenience for the world.
because the invading Westerns are a bunch of killers all from the days of the invasion of Indian lands and they are motivated by money and dollars...no humanity...thats why....bad DNA...
So, if you follow your blind logic, Bad DNA for the past 300 years (you said since the Indians) and exactly how much bad DNA is in a region that has been fighting and murdering for THOUSANDS of years? You just can't help yourselves! Right?
Good question ! At one point in time it made sense for U.S. troops to be in country. That time is over and we shouold leave these people to their own deserts. We can always control the air if needed and then the Afghans can concentrate on their corruption, double-dealing and killing each other. The U.S. does not need to support this and we should move out ASAP.
We're there because you're craphole of a country is filled to the brim with violent Muslims who want to destroy our way of life. Maybe if you didn't give these people free reign we wouldn't need to be all up in your grills. Quit complaining and be thankful we aren't nuking you to ash right now.
The US should stay out of the muslim world and muslims should stay out of the US
best post ive read so far
The Terrorists attacked the US 8 YEARS ago....US military patrolling Afgan has absolutely nothing to do with any attack....The military industrial profit is only part of the equation.....The US is NOT allowed to leave afghanistan yet.....As far as drug smuggling...Keep in mind the Afhgans have been OPENELY cultivating heroin for 2 thousands years...mostly importing to the US market....we are are not patrolling b/c of drugs, and to think otherwise is blissful thinking......The US does not need to do a BETTER job of explaining anything to the afghans...We need to do a BETTER job of withdrawing....If you believe we are 'fighting' for our 'freedom and liberty' than you to can go on burying your head in the sand....Osama Bin Laden has abslolutely positively nothing to do with the US occupation of Afghan...period. If you believe the propaganda about Bin Laden try thinking the opposite (what does he mean the opposite?).....
We americans must do a better job of reining in an out-of-control US government.....the US military is not the puppet of another country....which is exactly and only the reason we are in afghanistan....Why would the US military not be allowed to leave Afghanistan? Who benefits from our presence? Will Americans ever rid themselves of the simplicity of local geo-political ignorance?
(If drugs are the problem why don't we invade Columbia and Mexico?)
(How many americans where killed on 9/11? How many Afghans and Iraqi's where killed in the last 8 years?)
2010 – 2001 = 9 years ago
You need to go back to kindergarden !
We are engaged in 'Nation Building'. The average Afghan is incredibly ignorant, but not cowardly. They are also incredibly incompetent at fighting. The only way they 'win' is by being there after it is all over.
Unless we are willing to make Afghanistan the 51st state, they will eventually 'win', by their calculation anyway.
And our Nation Building is doomed by an incredibly ignorant populace. Clinton had the right idea, just defang them as much as possible, then ensure that 'cruise missiles' become part of their weather pattern until they smarten up (never!)
are you trying to make a point or just ranting withdrawing from afganastan now is just selfish
Jhon........I thought US forces with Nato hunting for Bin with the support of Paki Army. If the Pakistan is not doing enough then US troops must return and serve their own country. To defeat Bin group , Pakistan too has a big responsibility.
DATS GREAT JOHN , BEHOLD A TRUE AMERICAN IN WHOM I FIND NO BLEMISH IN SPEECH. GREAT THINKIN!!!
Because our last administration forgot to implement an exit strategy.
You just cant overcome your bias can you?
the mineral reports were done by the russians in the 80's,but that's not why we're here. we told they afghans to give us bin laden, they said they didn't know where he was at, and wouldn't give him to us. we said we'd get him,just like the weapons of mass destruction in iraq. we start something then lose total direction of what we're doing, then it never gets accomplished. i've served in both.we say we're here now to win the hearts and minds, not to capture or kill the terror leader that ordered the strike that killed 3000 americans. we got side tracked by politics, period.
Of course we're there for the underground minerals,period! Anybody who says otherwise is trying to fool us as this war is simply being fought to generate profits.
At least Obama is listening to the Military!!! All Bush listen to was Cheney!!!
The U.S. is there simply because the Afghan people can't manage their own country without becoming a quagmire.
So who's going to invade the USA for the same reason???
Bush and Cheney!!!
The US is there because the Tarriest train there and then attack us and other Countries!!!
who ever you are...can you spell the words correctly? you are day dreaming... to become like Larry. But you cant .
Because your struggling country has been a breeding ground for terrorism and drug smuggling for decades.
End of story.
The U.S. is there to make money, profits bottom line, nothing else. Our industrial Military complex is making billions off this war.
There is speculation about profiting from the drug trade as well.
As in every war in the history of mankind this one is no different we are in it for the money and power.
So you think we went there to make money. Interesting! And you don't think there is any connection between 9/11 and 3,000 people dead. Interesting! Where do you find your reading material? I wonder if the passengers on flight 93 knew that? Oh, how could they. They died on that day as well as the other thousands.
Well put Chessnutz. Just ignore these right-wing ignoramuses. What do they know?
Boy do You have the wrong War and President!!! Bush started a war to make Money... Obama had to finish that one then go back to the War Bush should have finished!!!
some peoples real intention is to break the moral of veterans . who are in the battle and out side. There fore focus on yourself and the serious job you do till you return home with the help of Almighty. Here lots of posts and some of them are clearly from Al qaeda supporters collecting intelligence and keep us busy with their wrong agenda and driving our attention somewhere no use or help to this present mission. Take care Sir. May God protect you and be your Armour.!!!
A UNIVERSAL TRUTH WHICH YAKUBI USUALLY CALL 360 DEGREE TRUTH
USMC Forever is absolutely correct about the reason for the U.S. involvement in Afghanistan, but that misses the problem described in this article, which is the Afghan people's lack of understanding of the reason for the U.S. involvement. The U.S. Government needs to do a better job of explaining to the average Afghan why we're there - not because we want to conquer Afghanistan (which we don't), not because we're anti-Muslim (which we aren't), but because Al Quaeda attacked us and the Taliban in Afghanistan supported them as they did it.
Will you knock off the right-wing drivel? You know better than that!
Well of course Bledsoe. Anything that does not support your hatred of the US is of course drivel. Alan stated is quite clearly and without the hate you spout.
Well said Alan.
Bledsoe... put down your thesaurus and stop making pointless posts. If you you want to back a different argument, please share. (but please be sure to leave out the logical fallacies)
There are massive campaigns in every AO to let the people know why we're in Afghanistan. We also spend millions and millions of dollars on them, they know. They are just mostly deceitful, uneducated peasants who play both sides of the coin. 92% of this country doesn't know how to tell the truth, that's the real stat. Half of them take our money then house the TB.
OK Afgans I will try to explain. The Afgan People allowed the Taliban to hide the presence of Osama Bin Laden from us after he attacked the U.S. on 9/11. You allowed religious simpletons to put your country in this deadly situation. Since you did nothing to quell YOUR GOVERNMENT at that time your country was responsible for hiding Bin Laden and talking Major Smack about WAR with the WEST. Well, I now ask you what do you think of the current situation and maybe next time you should as people not allow a religious fanatical group to run your country. I would now like to ask the Afgan People this question. HOW DO YOU LIKE YOUR "JIHAD" NOW??????? NEXT TIME MAKE SURE YOU DON'T ALLOW RELIGIOUS MORONS TO DETERMINE THE FATE OF YOUR POOPHOLE. HAVE A FINE HOLIDAY AND ENJOY THE WAR YOU STARTED!!!!
Well said USMC Forever! And BANGASH you of all people should know it's true!
Sorry folks,I didn't post the above. The reason the Afghans didn't know about 9/11 is the simple fact that they had nothing at all to do with it. The right-wing media won't tell you nor the Afghans that the reason we're there is to exploit there hidden minerals underground.
Hey impostor for one we did not know that there were huge amounts of minerals in Afghanistan when we attacked and two we are helping the Afghans to recover them for their own self preservation!
Most are uneducated peasants having nothing to do with this war or others they have been used as expandable Pons. Our murdering theses innocent children of god is nothing we can be proud of.
I totally agree with you,Pat. I just just wish that everybody did.
Typical liberal coward. Always afraid to be direct and admit their wrong doings. Anyways, so what if were only there in Afghanistan to exploit resources? This is a dog eat dog world and if you can't abide with the program, then you might as well stick a probe up your ass and sing "Kumbaya".
Oh, I guess that's why CHINA got the rights to one of the first big mines in Afghanistan...
You STUPID are NOT the USMC Forever, just some wannabe who knows nothing about being a warrior. The only fight you participated in was when your fingers broke thru the toilet paper while wiping your ANUS.
The US hasn't won a war since Grenada. We've had our asses kicked everywhere we've waged war. Go read your history books! The muslims will wear us out of Afghanistan and Iraq. We'll owe the Chinese big bucks since they are funding the wars(it's a fact). And you're a knothead. Don't plan on social security marine as it ain't gonna be there. Pretty soon the Chinese and N. Koreans will lay one on us and maybe the Iranians or Pakistani's. Be ready, load your M16 and hope it doesn't jam, (better yet, try to find a black market AK, as I heard they don't jam).
Tarzan99: Wake up - the M16 jamming problem was fixed in '69. AK's are popular with rag-heads because they're cheep, not better.
Let me rephrase your "remark" the US Military hasn't lost a war since 1763, maybe a few battle's but not a war. We choose to reframe ourselves from making your country into a parking lot and we convict those responsible for any crimes committed against civilians. We don’t shoot men and women because they are in love, nor do we abuse are women into submission. On the militarily side, I spent three(3) combat tours in the middle east and I will say this.. The Arab fighter as a whole was fearless in fighting, but as dumb as a box-of-rocks. They have no fire discipline, also failure to fully understand small arm tactics, range/distance and equipment. When it came to close in and personal combat….my mother could have done better.
Well Tarzan99 We could have easily won majority of the wars quite quickly. But being we're not animals, we follow something called geneva conventions. This "geneva conventions" has kept the U.S. from flying over and dropping a payload that would end the war in a matter of minutes. We do our best to not kill the innocent, and only target the wanted. So next time you want to open your mouth and talk about winning wars, think about how the US fights wars, and what we are actually capable of.......
Really? Then tell me this, what does an Iraqi infantry uniform looks like?
We have not had a military loss in the history of the nation. We have however had political losses. No country in the world would question the ability of the U.S. Military.
..and there were only a few carousing soldiers guarding a single compound and were overcome during the night within a few minutes! This is the type of warfare victory to be proud of....being the only one ever achieved.
AK 47S ARE THE WORLD'S BEST, MOST RELIABLE WEAPONS, MUCH MUCH THAN aerican ONES
How do You expect them to learn that when the United States has the Catholics running This Country???
HEY..WELL WRITTEN Larry. Good Post. I still have this problem with my caps lock though 🙂 I type block letters still.
Who ever posted this is a total idiot the truth is that most are uneducated peasants having nothing to do with this war or others they have been used as expandable Pons. Our murdering theses innocent children of god is nothing we can be proud of.
Like I said before Pat,good posting.
YOURE A BIG FOOL ! DO YOU AS A CIVILIAN HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER WHO YOUR GOVT HIDES OR SEEKS?
No the Afghans did not start this war. But, like the Russian invasion they will finish it. Imagine what would happen if the Afghans had the same weapons the invaders have? Before you answer, go to web site AE911Truth to find out the facts about the tragic event of 911.
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