November 23rd, 2010
10:22 AM ET

Afghans: Divided over NATO's new 2014 target

NATO leaders stuck to an upbeat script at their Lisbon summit during the weekend of Nov. 19-21, announcing a formal timetable aimed at ending combat operations in Afghanistan and leaving security duties in local hands by the end of 2014 — provided, of course, that the Afghans are up to the task.

The target date pushes the endgame a couple of more years away, but it remains a goal, not a deadline, very much as Barack Obama's summer 2011 promise was. It does not mask the widening cracks in the alliance — specifically, between U.S. military officials, on the one hand, who insist that the current counterinsurgency campaign needs more time to have an impact, and European troop contributors, on the other, who are skeptical of the strategy and looking for a face-saving way out. The Afghans are themselves divided, debating whether the presence of foreign troops is driving the conflict or the only thing keeping the Kabul government from total collapse.

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  1. undofekeede

    Hostnine Review

    November 27, 2010 at 8:44 am | Report abuse |
  2. Dindy.....

    Dan in Lafayette,in
    Good posts again.

    November 24, 2010 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
  3. Dindy.....

    GOD OR JESUS NEVER MURDER THE One who were HOME LESS once.. But will punish the people who do not give shelter to homeless. (when god talk about real fasting..it was mentioned clearly) Jews have returned to a place .It is Israel where they should be. And God has told us to pray for Israel.

    November 23, 2010 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Dindy.....

    God himself needed to communicate with people. God made us known he exists. God want us to witness for him. It is nothing wrong to witness against Devil and write about Jesus who never bowed to Devil. May god give salvation to Idol worshipers too.

    November 23, 2010 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
  5. Dindy.....

    Larry..........Idol worshiping is really bad and it is against God. Even today the punishment is vast for Idol worshipers. We may die here from going against Demons. But we enter a everlasting life. Yet I believe one thing. If we are guided by the spirit of Mighty God ..it is only victory against Demons. (fine balance is living with the guidance of God almighty)

    November 23, 2010 at 11:17 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Dindy.....

    Well written Dan in Lafayette in..

    November 23, 2010 at 11:13 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Dindy.....

    Jews need a home too. Their home is Israel. So the people who try to insult them are against God.

    November 23, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Dindy.....

    Larry ..we have a indwelling spirit within us where we can be still with God ( vast and every where and who know each of us hearts) other wise we can get from his presence and be with evil which is more easy but at the end we have to pay a higher price for sinning and life is always in fear . Lord help me to be with you !!! Amen. Give me wisdom to understand your divine nature and make me a soldier of you lord!! make me your ambassador !! Amen.

    November 23, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dindy.....

      Correction.....I am sorry...It must..be ..other wise we can get away from God"s presence ..

      November 23, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Dindy.....

    LarryKegel ..(USArmy)

    Sir..you are correct.We are all God"s children. yet some have chosen ways against God (heavenly father)So they have rebelled. Yet Jesus did obeyed God to the end and sat in heaven next to father. Father God (our father too) never abandoned Jesus even on the cross. That is why Jesus never felt angry with people but had divine mercy. As you know Larry we are very different than Jesus. To be honest I get angry for even small matters. Then I think how far I am from Jesus. How low I am. So I try and try. Still trying. Going to heaven is the narrow road where few walk.

    November 23, 2010 at 10:52 pm | Report abuse |
  10. LarryKegel(US Army)

    If any Religion believes in GOD it is the Jewish People!!! It was GOD that said You will not believe in any Idol are are False GOD... The Jewish Religion is the Only One that does that!!!

    November 23, 2010 at 10:14 pm | Report abuse |
  11. LarryKegel(US Army)

    Where in the Old Testament does it say that??? You can't go by the New Testament because Man wrote that to make a New Religion!!!

    November 23, 2010 at 10:11 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    But you do not get it, Jesus Himself spoke of the anti-Christ and you people who persecute the Christians not of anti-God!

    November 23, 2010 at 9:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      How do You know it is the truth are not just something Man wrote to make a Religion??? The 10 Commandments is the only Law GOD wrote!!!

      November 23, 2010 at 10:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy.....

        Larry...Sir...God himself knew human beings are weak to live up to ten commandments. God knew he had to destroy all the human if God measure them up with his position who is perfect and Divine. So to reunite with people God himself became a sacrifice in human form (jESUS) therefore forgiveness. Imagine if there was no forgiveness. The problem today is No Forgiveness. No Jesus.

        November 23, 2010 at 11:05 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dindy.....

        Larry..Kegal( US Army)
        Men wrote what they eye witnessed and what the indwelling spirit told them. God is still same yesterday and today. Now no one come to die again on the cross. But we ourselves if sin. Because now it is the judgement we are going to face for sinning. Because once Jesus has paid for all. If sin now we ourselves must pay. ( the worst sins are the one we do against god !!) All these things are written in the Bible.

        November 23, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    Jesus never spoke of anti-God, but always mentioned the anti-Christ! Those who did not believe in Him and killed and persecuted those who did. In His time and the present time!

    November 23, 2010 at 8:46 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    Larry you should get your information correct. The pull out date was July 2011 and that was not a complete withdrawal, it was contingent on the Afghan security forces being able to take over current operations without the need of NATO forces. And as for the Jews being allowed to control east Jerusalem, it is only half of the capital God had promised them and it shows they have a heart if their willing to share it! As for the Golan Heights it is a strategic position and with the times that we are in I would hope they would not be foolish enough to give it up!

    November 23, 2010 at 5:19 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      The 360 degrees is the anti-Christ!

      November 23, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      You deny Jesus as the Christ or Messiah and the one and only begotten son of God. Is this not true? You also take verses out of the bible that may suit your beliefs but I ask you what do you say when Jesus says the He and the Father are one?

      November 23, 2010 at 6:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      He IS the Father, Son and Holy Spirit! The trinity! And without it you will never reach heaven! Anyone who has to kill innocent life or for that matter one who breaks the laws of din or sharia for the survival of their religious beliefs will burn in hell for eternity!

      November 23, 2010 at 8:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      I said that We will be leaving Troops there until 2015!!! As far as Jerusalem goes We have here East Los Angeles and West Los Angeles!!! But it doesn't mean it doesn't belong to Los Angeles... All of Jerusalem belongs to Israel!!!

      November 23, 2010 at 10:02 pm | Report abuse |
      • LarryKegel(US Army)

        Dan In Lafayette, IN: That is Your belief... That doesn't make it true!!! Everyone has the right to Their Own Beliefs...

        November 23, 2010 at 10:08 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      Dan In Lafayette, IN: We are all GODS Children!!! So Why would Jesus be the only child???

      November 23, 2010 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  15. LarryKegel(US Army)

    Palestinians Criticize Israeli Land Bill
    Voice of America Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:21 AM PST
    Parliament passes bill that would make it difficult for Israel to withdraw from captured territories of East Jerusalem or Golan Heights

    November 23, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  16. LarryKegel(US Army)

    We already had a date of end of Dec. 2011!!! I don't know if it would be smart to take all the troops out completely after that??? Look what happen in Korea even with Our Troops there!!! The UN is the ones that is suppose to be keeping PEACE in the World not the US!!! Why are they making things worse instead of better???

    November 23, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |