Iraqi troops use a M1A1 Abrams tank during a March training session. The U.S. is bringing the tanks to Afghanistan.
The United States is beefing up its firepower in Afghanistan by employing heavily armored tanks in Afghanistan for the first time in the nine-year war, a military spokesman said Friday.
The U.S. Marine Corps plans to use a company of M1A1 Abrams tanks in restive Helmand province by early spring, said Marine Maj. Gabrielle Chapin.
The M1A1 tank is the fastest and most deadly ground combat weapons system available. It will allow for more aggressive missions while mitigating risks to U.S. forces, the military said.
U.S. forces used the tanks to battle insurgents successfully in Iraq's Anbar province, Chapin said.
"They bring superior optics, maneuverability and precision firepower that will enable us to isolate insurgent forces from key population centers and provide the ability to project power into insurgent safe havens," he said.
Other coalition forces, including those from Canada, already have used tanks in Afghanistan.
The decision comes as Afghanistan tops the agenda at the NATO summit that starts Friday in Lisbon, Portugal, and amid a public dispute between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and NATO leaders over military strategy.
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Just picked-up on this blog.... The tanks will serve their purpose, be in no doubt. Some of you, seemingly 'military' should know this. Think out of the box! As for the religious looneys posting here, it's people like you, with your ignorance and blinkered ideologies that make this world a more dangerous place. I feel sorry for you yet want rid of you and your ilk at the same time. All of you should start thinking like human-beings instead of creating divides. And another thing i notice is that most of you appear to be illiterate! Speaks VOLUMES! Spiritually-illiterate, intellectually-bereft. You'll deserve what you get from life. One of the many, many problems with blind-faith is just that- it makes you blind and crash planes into tall buildings.
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This is obviously more just a show of force. Anyone who has spent anytime in Afghanistan knows that these tanks will be severely limited in where they can travel. Most likely they will be limited to the southern provinces.
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WHy? Has anything been learned since the soviets invaded that ground forces, particularly those in mountainous regions are at a deficit against taliban on top of the mountain who know the terrain?
Daniel-2 by definition all wars are obnoxious. Or has Daniel-2 discovered a pleasurable war.
The nature of any conflict are based on textual constructs. Just reflect for a moment on the basis for your beliefs and views on life – to what extent are these beliefs and views derived by you individually or are simply a reflection of the views and beliefs of your parents, church, and State.
Why is this an important consideration?
It is because as with the saying you are what you eat physically the same can be said for inherent beliefs. In other words you could just as well be saying this is a justified war against an oppressive, violent, misogynistic, societal template which brooks no contradiction of its tenets no matter how valid the argument.
It should also be pointed out a war necessarily requires at least two participants.
Generally wars occur when one side attacks and/or enables promotes the destruction of other and persists in these notions. Is it Daniel-2 you are saying the Taliban has never enabled and promoted the destruction of Western Democracies, and does not continue to seek means however feeble or otherwise to achieve this outcome – with the assistance of outside forces such as Iran?
It would appear you diet needs to be changed to enable a balanced and healthier belief system to appreciate of the obnoxious reality facing other.
It would appear your diet needs to be changed to enable a balanced and healthier belief system to appreciate of the obnoxious reality facing other.
It would appear to me also the introduction of tanks is meant more as a signal to the Iranian elite which if you have not noticed Daniel-2 is enabling much more brutal destruction of humanity and diminution of opportunity for its victims than any Western Democracy. I suppose you believe the Iranian elite are victims and their belief system enables freedom for all to worship and live as they wish in peace?
Simply walking away without changing the text will resolve what?
The Russians tried this when they were in Afghanistan. CIA trainers taught the Taliban how to respond by using garden variety explosives to blow off the treads to stop the tank, set fire to it, and then picked off crew members one-by-one as they climbed out.
@ Jim in Nevada- I have seen the Russian tanks scattered all over the p;lace in Afghanistan and they are NOT anywhere near what a US tank is, the Russians mights as well have sent thier troops in Volkswagon Bugs.
We might have better tanks than They did then!!! But They still can't maneuver any different in that kind of terrain...
Will you kindly quit blogging under the name of the Prophet Mohammed? Have you any notion of how demeaning that is to the Muslims???
It is completely different how We tried doing it and They did!!! Do You really think Russia would be there now with Us if They thought We couldn't win???
@ Army41 "PROVE to me that I have been over there killing innocent women and children!"
Uh, do cowardly Taliban dressed as women count?
The only cowardly thing here is this joker blogging under various names like Larry Kegel(US Army),The Prophet Mohammed and mine among others in order to make a joke out of this obnoxious war. I'm talking about you!!!
@ Bledsoe, whatever the name, it's still the same Paki worm.
I am a United States Corpsman attached with a Marine unit for going on two years now. Though i was not chosen to go to Afghanistan many of my close friends that have been with me my whole career since boot camp did go. And from what they tell me tanks in general are a bad idea due to the terrain but in the Helmand Province....lets hope the extra firepower finally helps get the job done.
More right-wing mumbo-jumbo. Don't these jokers know when to quit? Enough already! I'm the true Bledsoe here,not the obnoxious creep who makes fun of our troops over there.
I never been there and I said the same thing!!! I was in the 185 Armor in 1958 to 1961 and 143 rd Evat Hospital till 1965!!!
The stupidity of the yanks is amazing
How right you are,tk. It's about time somebody made a sensible comment here!
Will You Please quit using My Name!!!
I'm the real Bledsoe and your statement about the yanks is quite true. But just as true is their arrogance and self righteousness which is equally amazing and they think that they have a right to do whatever they feel like!
DINDY: WHY ARE YOU YELLING??? I am for Our Troops and others fighting the cause to make This World Free!!! There is just to much hate on both sides to make PEACE... We have to get People to listen to each other and explain with a open mind what the difference are!!! There is to much name calling here... I do it too because I get frustrated with what is going on!!!
That's the way I feel too,Phunnie boy. I wish that you'd stop blogging under my name your love for this obscene war. You know as well as I that this obnoxious war has absolutely nothing to do with our freedoms nor with national security. You also know that there are too many people profiting off this senseless war!
Don't feel bad Larry,he does this to me all the time as one can plainly see. He's even usurping the name of the Prophet Mohammed to get his laugh out of life.
@ Bledsoe- Listen here liar, I don't waste my time taking names, I'm funny enough and am quite content using my own name. I think that's pretty obvious based upon your idiotic comments who is stealing people's names, what the h3ll is a Phunnie boy anyway? Are you trying to say "Phony" or "Funny"? Learn English idiot.
Why are You blogging under My name???
Bled So: Why can't the monitor fix it so They can't use someone else name??? It isn't fair to those of us that use Our real names!!!
The Prophet Mohammed: I don't know who is doing it!!! I just with Who ever it is would stop... It is not fair to those of us that uses Our Real Names!!!
How true that is,Larry!!! He does this to me all the time as one can plainly see throughout this page and all the others before and after it. He thinks that this obscene war is nothing but one big fat joke!!!
After reading the post above I begin to wonder what the MOS of the persons posting are, From what I gather we have a couple General's maybe some Command Sergeant Major's or other higher ranking officials that work directly for the president. Yes it took nine years to send in tanks..... Why send tanks to a country where the majority of enemies have nothing more than a small pick-up truck at their disposal. The tanks won't fit into the cave dwellings where they hide. I would agree with the comment of the tank being a rolling coffin, the enemy knows that no matter how thick your armor is it will get destroyed with enough explosive, We introduced the MATV's and MRAP's and at first seemed to take a blast and keep on rolling so what happened the enemy increased the amount of explosives they packed into the road side. Mohammed the False prophet, you say nuke them all... yeah that’s a great idea, but wait never mind if we did that we would give the allies a reason to nuke us, well there goes that idea. I've read the Afghanistan has no civilians well I disagree, Until you have handed out food, toys, or medical supplies to these civilians and seen the smile on their faces, or helped a village rebuild their town after the Taliban destroyed it, or helped a farmer cultivate his land to produce a greater amount of produce to help feed these terrorist, or my personal favorite seen a town arm themselves and sit side by side with American soldiers to help fight off a impending attack from the enemy. I guess with all this useless chatter and name calling that I just helped continue what I’m getting at is maybe instead of sitting behind a computer screen talking about the war, Maybe you can try to stand up and fight for this country you so proudly fight for with words and start sending some rounds down the two way fire range.
@ One who has done battle- Very good post! I'm pretty sure the Tanks are more for intimidation than anything else but that's still no excuse, if Commanders are asking for them now why weren't they asking for them before? Tanks should have been readily available if they were ever to be an option. Yes tanks were tried in Iraq and over time a few were lost, they will try trial and error and I'm pretty sure the Taliban are pretty good at figuring out and passing along lessons learned. The hearts and mind campaign is hit and miss, I think it has more to do with the actions and fear generated by each local Taliban commander than any media propoganda although the medical aid and toys, food certainly don't hurt, still it shouldn't be US troops handing it out. Until the people see the Afghani Govornment and Army as legitimate they will not take on a national pride and unity. In the end Afghanistan must stand on thier own and a few isolated villages standing up just doesn't cut it, hopefully as word spreads more will get involved. It really doesn't matter that every civilian that accidentally gets killed by NATO creates more terrorists becuase Islan and the fear of the Taliban does that a lot faster.
BTW way the nukes are a Joke and I'm pretty sure I am the REAL Prophet Mohammed; at least a heck of a lot more real than the Pagan they follow in the Pagan religeon renamed "Islam", which in reality is just a cover for terrorism more often than not. If Islam was truly a peaceful religeon then Islam would not be involved in a civil war for the past 700 years between Shiite and Sunni. The True Islamist are not peaceful, they are just trying not to get involved, much like they are doing with the control of thier country- staying uninvolved- therin lies the real problem, they are waiting for everyone else to do all the work for them when it's thier country just like all the US citizens who like to complain about thier country being so messed up; most of them probably never even voted, if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem- People of Afghanistan- get involved!
The Prophet has spoken.
For the record, that's more than enough of being serious for me for the next day or two.
The Prophet Mohammed...Good post. I also wonder why many Muslims are very quiet about these brutal attacks. We also have Sunni Muslims here in our country. They were so upset when US attacked Iraq. They marched with banners., But they did nothing but were quiet like nothing happened when 9/11 took many innocent lives.
Also fort Bening incident just make me sick. they come to USA .get jobs and kill citizens there. what kind of religious teaching is that? These men are with demon spirits. All the patriots must pray and raise the real God"s name so his angles will defeat the demon spirits inside these suicide bombers. Correct prayers always help and should not stop for any reason.
@ Dindy, Why do most Muslins sit back instead of standing up for what they believe, same reason most other people do the same thing, becuase they are cowards. If you are not part of the Solution, you are part of the problem plain and simple, not getting involved for what you believe in is just plain cowardly.
SIR...NOT JUST SITTING AND TYPING..IN MY HEART THERE IS A BIGGER ROCK THAN ANY OTHER ROCK IN THIS WHOLE EARTH AS MY SON IS ALSO IN MILITARY. WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT OUR PRECIOUS MEN AND WOMEN IN THE BATTLE INCLUDING YOU. TAKE CARE . MAY GOD PROTECT AND GUIDE YOU ALL THERE !!!
"One", we agree about the tanks. Now, why the hell are you handing out goodies to the kids & helping the civilians? That is the job of the ANA! Didn't you read your COIN booklet? Close your piehole and get to work.
Why would the U.S. want to occupy Afghanistan? For the oil? for their vast resources? Neither of which they have! The U.S. does not want to occupy Afghanistan, we simply do not want another 9/11 and if we leave that country without finishing the job the weak minded people of Afghanistan will fall right back into the hands of the evil who hide behind a religion to carry out their war. There always needs to be some kind of foreign presence on afghan soil to prevent this from happening. Look what happened when the Russians left, the taliban came in then al qaeda and then 3,000 precious peaceful American lives were taken on 9/11. There are no civilians in Afghanistan, people cry about civilian deaths but these "civilians" are the same people that attack our troops, how can u tell a civilian from a terrorist? al qaeda hides within the population attacks then cowardly retreats back into the population so then once we retaliate they can be sure to make sure the world see's the U.S. attacking "civilians" its a game that they are playing. People have the nerve to call Bush or Obama murderers? compare them to Mullah Omar or Osama Bin Laden! The only thing Bush did wrong was not nukeing that country on 9/12. The people of Afghan are so illiterate that they have been sitting on mines of precious metals for thousands of years that scientist from the U.S. government just found, if it wasnt for the U.S. they would have never found these resources. So continue the blame the U.S. for the problems in Afghan that hae been going on since the beginning of time when we are only trying to help create a stable country in that region, not a place that will be a safe heaven for terrorist.
@ Frank- Very well put!
Frank, let me be frankly on you. You are not limiting any terrorists man instead you are creating more. Do you expect kid whoes parents or family was killed by your troops to be normal person again. The were 3 torrorist in 2001 now they 7. Lets wait and see the number tomorrow.
@ RSAT4 the Paki- Not by my math- Carpet bombs are for subtraction.
Quite simple frank. It's the $1T plus worth of "recently discovered" minerals over there so the western countries can exploit them for their own ends!
So, lets go ahead and have a big story about it so everyone knows what is being planned......
@ Retired LE- Trust me, they already know 95% of everything gets shipped through those cowards in Pakistan who are going to steal everything they can from them, then the Taliban get mad and try to burn them (The Convoys carrying tanks), killing a few more worthless Pakis in the process, Then Pakistan acts like they have been victimized by the Taliban they are protecting and hiding so they can get even more money to fight terrorism from the US. Then we pay them even more to ship more tanks. The cycle of US Taxpayers dollars in Pakistan.
That's what I say,sakiro. And pay no attention to Phunnie boy(Bledsoe) when he blogs in here.
Army41,I totally agree with both you and sakiro. We do have a moral obligation to get out of there and turn our backs on the right-wing thugs in Washington!!! I wonder if these same thugs are paying Phunnie boy to mimmc us with his blogs!
Being Paid? I doubt it, I personally think Bledsoe/Daniel 2 who is now posing as Larry lives in the Basement at his mother's house and in his spare time, when he is not licking windows or eating kittnes, he likes to blog on CNN under other people's handles.
Is that right,Phunnie boy? And just how much are you being paid to blaspheme Islam by usurping the name of the Prophet Mohammed? Or do you just get a rush out of it? Everybody now knows how you like to usurp my name to blog in your right-wing bla-bla-bla!!! You just blogged about yourself above!!!
@ Bledsoe- I don't waste my time usurping names, especially not yours, why would I want to make you look stupid?- you are doing just fine on your own. As far as being paid, nope but that would be nice though, feel free to mail me a check, as for now I just make fun of religeon for the pure enjoyment of doing it, thanks for asking. The Prophet has Spoken.
No he hasn't Phunnie boy,you have!!!
@ Bledsoe- You really are a window licker.
Stop this brutality...STOP..STOP...STOP IT NOW!!!
Because that's what we want Pfunnie boy,don't you??? Never mind,I forgot that you love this war since it seems to give you a laugh out of life! How pathetic you are!!!
It's called Progress.
Guys you are all writing nothing but hate to each other. Please stop and think about the topic at hand, which is that Tanks will fail in Afganistan in 80 out of 100 times they are used. So you are kindly requested to bring in stuff which only Kills the Idiots who have hijacked the Peacefull Islam for there Evil Purposes of ruling the poor people of Afganistan and spread terror al over. So i say please use proper weapons to kill only those and not innocent people.
@ LOVEFORALLHATREDFORNONE- SO, you want us to nuke those worthless Pakis?
They can not talk about the subject... So They feel that type of talk makes them sound better!!!
LoveForAll, good post. good luck.
@The Prophet Mohammed, for the sake of common sense, what Bush has got to do with tanks on the ground, this is most ignorant comment i have ever read. Have some sense before u assume commentary rights to international affairs.
Bush should have sent tanks in early on, I'm pretty sure it's on the checklist:
1. Prepositions troops and supplies
2. Bomb the crap out of the country
3. Drop some more Bombs
4. Send in Artillery, TANKS and Infantry to protect the assests.
They said early on they would never use tanks dur to the Terrain, I think that was a mistake to rule out tanks early in the war.
Say Phunnie boy,is your hatred for the Muslims that great for you to blog the above? Don't you know that hate only begets more hate? Get a life,will you?
@ Bledsoe, currently Posing as Dan, Army41 and whoever else he can find. I don't hate Muslins and more or less than I hate you, don't feel left out. Just becuase I Hate Yakoki the Worm doesn't make you any less of a worm in my book.
The Prophet has Spoken.
Bush Jr should have done what His Father did there!!! Why do You think His Father almost finished the job and all Bush Jr did was make a mess out of it???
@ Larry, I agree, we stopped bombing way to early this time around and put boots on the ground prematurely.
Pakistan and Iran watch you are next. These American are really human butchers.
I totally with you,RSTA4 and if Phunnie boy blogs his right-wing mumbo-jumbo under my name again,just ignore it.
I too agree.
Sure You all agree with Each Other!!! Because You all are Idiots!!!
How can We be butchers when all We are trying to do is give everyone in the World a chance to live free and be able to support Their Families with the money They make by working??? Wouldn't You say that Everyone should get paid for the work They do??? Not just the bosses and bosses that just makes it off the sweet of Their Workers???
Army41: I just wonder if this is the same Person that does it to the rest of Us too???
It's you.Phunnie who's doing it to all of us with your posting idiotic right-wing,war loving comments while trying to belittle the rest of us who hate this useless war!
Wow, seems like we are carbon copying the Russian mistakes of the 80's. They warned us but we are to stupid and stubborn to listen. The only solution is to kill all adults and retrain the kids not to be muslims.
Isn't that what the right-wing thugs in Washington have on their minds,paul? It seems to me that they have.
Sorry folks,this creep who has been mimicking me under the name of "Bledsoe" is really Phunnie boy. For the record,I have no use for this obscene war nor for the right-wing thugs in Washington as they care only for themselves and feel no compassion for the people of Afghanistan.
Do You really think the back wads way They think is really Democracy??? How can People that still stone People to death of shop off Their heads be a real Democracy???
If They thought We were doing it wrong!!! Why are They there helping us fight there???
@ Larry "Shop" thier heads off? I know it's terrible, I have that same problem whenever I take my daughter to the mall.
M1A1 is very strange choice. At 61 metric tons it is too heavy to easily operate in mountains where Russian's 42 tons T-72 had problems with bridges. 120mm gun with 5km range is overkill when enemy heaviest weapon RPG is limited to 350 m. Why they cannot use 15 t agile M1128 Mobile Gun System with 105 mm gun?
You have to race with what you brought to the track.
The Abrams is there for specific missions such as back up heavy fire support, the Abrams is also fitted with systems such as that we used in Iraq to search out IEDs heavier than 500 pounds which has been used greatly to take out aconvoy more than 6 vehicles. The system also allows Marines to escort convoys through areas that are hard to defend w small arms and even the Striker package. there are over 12 systems the Abrams employs besides heavy fier power that assist troops on the ground. Its even designed to commit to rpg attacks by using its current system which allows it to track up to 7 rpgs at once and defend ground to air attacks. This systems is currently employed on Isralie striker packages.
Thanks @Army41, some one has insight into tactics.
Take Good Care guys.
Are You in the Tank Division??? Otherwise how do You know what You are talking about??? Reading Magazines and books sure won't tell You what good They would be under every condition!!! I was in the 185th Armor Division so I know...
I don't know what the tanks are called today!!! Because I haven't been in the Service since 1965!!! I just wonder if You were and these are what We have are if Your just making Them up to look good???
Apparently after "Air Raiding Villages and Killing Innocent Women and Children" just as the Hitler like George Bush did now Obama wants to crush them with tanks too. The question now is , "Why does Obama hate Afghans just because they are brown ?"
Barack Obama hates the Afghans primarily because they are Muslims. That makes both him and George W.Bush war criminals and they both need to be brought to justice in an international court of law and dealt with appropriately.
Bledsoe, the best advice I can give you is don't have any offspring retard boy, they will be stupid like their dad and only be able to eat and take a dump 1 time a day.
You can do better comparisons once you you learn about Hitler. In Afghanistan tribes were busy killing each other with and without foreign invasions. The only exception was Taliban rule. Now only 30% Afghans want Taliban back. I see no reason to install democracy in medieval tribal society. But it is clear that one US is out Afghanistan will be unofficially spited between Iran, Pakistan and Tajikistan.
We have already gotten Iraq ready... Pakistan and the CIA is cleaning up that mess!!! We are training the Afghanistan with the help of NATO... There will be know place for the Tarriest to go after that!!! It will teach them to strike other Countries!!!
If you're going to mimmic me Phunnie boy,at least learn how to spell. The word is "terrorist",not "tarriest"!
@ Sergey- Actually you are wrong, there was tribal fighting all over under the Taliban rule, a lot less but over 500 were killed in one week in Kabul- the week before the US attacked by tribal fighting. True other crime almost completely stopped under Taliban rule becuase the "Judical" (Shuria) was so brutal. Still the way the people of Afghanistan were treated by the Taliban was a far greater crime- they were preventing Afghanistan from having a meaningful future by keeping them illiterate, brainwashed and Xenophobic. Just becuase Islam is stuck in the 7th century doesn't mean Afghanistan needs to stay there.
@ Harry the Worm and Bledsoe the Paki, nobody cares about your propoganda, go blog on Fox News.
The same goes for the Worthless Taliba Paki-Puppet Yokobi the Worm.
PROVE to me that I have been over there killing innocent women and children! You whinning ass liberal POS! Your the type that spreads this POS propaganda evrywhere with no proof accept whats on the TV. How dare you spew such BS, karma will stomp you in the future for that BS....stupid media fed lib!
Sorry Harry,somebody here is trying to make me look like some kind of a jerk. I never posted that stupid statement above. I know that Pres.Obama has a vendetta against the Muslims or we wouldn't be over there at all where we have no business being in the first place!
@ Army41, (Likely AKA Bledsoe) One of you is succedding, you do look like a jerk, I presume the tank info was a legitimate post though.
Obama has done His best to make sure that as few Civilians dies as possible!!! It is really hard when the enemy uses Them as Shield!!!
The Prophet Mohammed: Not all the Muslin's are bad just as not all Catholic are bad!!!
@ Larry, I am really not that close minded; I just like to stir the pot, pretty much all religeons seem to be more concerned with bussiness and politics than they are about helping people, sure there are exceptions on individuals and small communities, etc, but on the large scale not so much. Islamist are fun becuase they are so brainwashed and closed minded and often pretty ignorant (not deregoatory- just "not knowing") becuase it' the only thing they have ever been exposed to. Catholics on the other hand, well you read the news and this is nothing new, the Pope and all these Cardinals- Thier SYSTEM really, is criminal, they have knowingly been protecting and HELPING s3x offender priest for years. They get no mercy from me. Otherwise I thingk all religeons pretty much say the same thing, beliefs might be a bit different but the core values are what's important and they are pretty much all alike there- becuase it's just common decency for the most part.
Islam of course is the exception since they follow the Terrorist handbook which has been labeled the Koran. In case you hadn't notice though, I am generally not here for Philisophy, cordial talk or even intelligent, RELEVANT talk for the most part. Honestly, there are very few on these blogs who are.
Fish On! Tight Lines!
Guess I was typing to fast, might have to starty using speel check.... or not.
You know He can't win know matter what He does with You idiots!!! If He would take the troops out You say he isn't protecting the Country... But if He tries to finish the war... You blame Him for wanting to kill innocent People!!! You can't have it both ways You know???
Again I want to reiterate folks that I never posted that nonsense above. Phunnie boy's really trying to be funny but he's not!!!
Daniel-2-you have already gotten real OLD with your whining ass.
Will you cut the Tea Party lingo? Some of us here are decent enough not to like this obnoxious war and I'm one.
@ Joseph, Yes we know you are a tree Hugging Hippy- Tea Party hater, for the record we all hate the Tea Party.
Joe, just wondering....why do you call this war an "obnoxious" war? I mean, as oposed to other wars? Just curious. They called WWI "The Great War", and I bet the boys in the trenches probablly didn't agree with that one. Ever been in a trench Joe?
Use all of our resources when we are at war. Why are we holding back any technology...bring it. Imagine having a child fighting....you would hope that he or she would be surrounded with our best available equipment and technology.
I Agree, the Taliban are not holding back on thier technologuy, thet are using every rock and camel they have at thier disposal. I wonder what a camel looks like after it gets ran over by a tank?
I'm sure that the Commanders know a lot better what to do and when than You do??? Otherwise You be running the war!!!
The Prophet Mohammed: You wouldn't feel that way if You were there fighting Them!!!!
@ Larry- You have no idea what I am doing.
The Afghanis are fighting a low level guerilla style war, they can keep it up until the Ameritards leave. Uh, when are we going to leave this 6th world country and what are we supposed to be accomplishing there??
Uh, I think we are sending in tanks to make smaller rocks, and smaller Taliban, sort of like Midgets, just a bit more "squished".
We could do a lot better job with the Drones than with Tanks!!!
i got your Ameritard right here! I beg you to explain why you make that statement while living in the US as an Ameritard?
@ Army41 (Army Wannabee, you must be in the Navy), Sorry, didn't understand your comment, it fell a little "short".
Well, if you have not been watching, The United States Of Ameritard has been conducting FAILED globetrotting missions since the end of WW2, not very smart.
I speak out because it is my right, I oppose the stupidity of my country.
A chance for all People to survive so that They don't have to worry about being killed because They don't agree with those in charge!!!
They are going to lose because the People are tired of being killed because They want to be Free!!!
Its about time! Why did they wait so long to give our troops the needed tools to do the job? What else are they not providing the troops. No wonder its taking over nine years to do the job.
Will you knock off that right-wing mumbo-jumbo,terry? It does get old after a while!
Daniel-2 Just what do you mean right or was it left wing? All I was stating is why did the high ups wait 9 years.....THATS 9 YEARS.. to send tanks. I had no idea that they didn't already have tanks. It just comes as a shock that they waited all these years to send in tanks. What I'm tired of Daniel is that people like you have to labeled people politicly just by one small statement. Oh by the way the number 2 after you name fits what I think of your feedback.
@ Terry, that's what I'm saying, why did we wait so long, time to give the Soldiers the tools they need, untie thier hands and put a boot up the Afghan Butts as well. The Army is over thier training thier Army but you would have though after 9 years the Afghans would be taking a bit more pride and initiative in thier country.
I was in the Armor Division when I was in the Military!!! Tanks are not good in all kind of Areas... I wonder how will it will be there??? I think Bush Sr had the right Idea... Bombing first troops after wards!!!
Sorry Terry,I never post that stupid comment above. Now Phunnie boy)Bledsoe) is mimicking me!!!
They had to clear the way before They could!!! I just wonder what good it will really do there???
Terry: It took 9 years because Bush Jr took the troops out rather than finish what We started!!!
May lord help us to live in peace without any more attacks like 9/11 !!
@ Dindy, you keep on praying, we'll keep sending in the drones and now TANKS!
The Prophet Mohammed........
Praying every day !
We have a better chance not to have Them again compared of when Bush was President!!!
Prophet Mohammad: If You can say that about the Muslin... I Guess I cam also say that about the Catholic??? Because both Religions are trying to change the World to Their Religion!!!
@ Larry- Yes the Catholics are trying- One Alter boy at a time.
My Friend I like it better when You talk Religion!!! You make more sense... The degree talk drives Me crazy!!! Please stop it My Friend...
and whose truth would that be? yours?
YABBA-DABBA-DOO-DOO-DOO!!! Now we get to kill more people than we could before!
Whats with the Fred Flinstone? And didnt you have the same post on the other article about the super gun? time ofr something new bro!
So, NOW we are sending in tanks? Shouldn't that have been one of the first steps in the war? Shows how much Bush really cared about the troops and the mission.
Now we can help them make more rocks!
Other than in Khandahar and Helmand, where the marines are, Tanks are useless in Afghanistan because of the terrain. Believe me stuck in a tank canalized in the korengal is suicide! Tanks can only be effective in open areas, where the marines happen to be. Bashing Bush on this one shows a real lack of tactical understanding...and also tells me you've never been to Afghanistan. Drop the ideology!
tanks arent the best thing in most of the terrain of afghanistan. the mountains i've climbed and the ones that i've had to be dropped off on by helicopters are no joke. in the south maybe they'd be of some use, but this is most deffinatly an infantry war. if this is gonna be won it's by guys walking around, or driving in vehicles such as the MRAP or the MATV. hell, i think the marines are making a mistake using tanks at all. the weapons systems we have now over there out class the abrams tanks in so many ways it'll make your head spin. so making a comment like that about a place im guessing you've never been to, let alone fought in is ignorant on so many levels.
i was there for my full 12 month tour in Kunar Provance. up north where the mountains are, and as someone up top mentioned, the Korengal. not a good place at all for a tank, it sucked even trying to get our MRAPs to turn around on those roads, a tank would have been suicide. we'll just see how this goes and hope the tanks don't turn into metal coffins...
The tanks are for the Marines and the areas they are clearing, Mostly Helmond, Khandahar, etc. All places where a tank can be used effectively.
I have spent 3 years in Afghanistan and believe me when i tell you that the tanks will not change anything. They are quite limited to where they can use them.
The Army had to clean up the roads so that Tanks could be used!!! I just wonder what good They will be in a Country like that??? They are better in a Desert than a Mountain regent!!!
another arrogant peacenik! Why is that there is always that POS that knows nothing about war? Unless you know anything about it and what really goes on there, keep your mouth closed before it draws too many flies.
Good. Now I know who's been mimicking me all along. You can quit now,Phunnie boy(Bledsoe) since the gig is up!
Don't you know These Civilians know more than the Military does!!!
If the Army would have thought that would work... They would have done that a long time ago!!! I wonder how many will get blown up by mines???
Quite true Larry, but remember we're talking about a bunch of Jarheaded Marines here. Tanks in Afghanistan are as worthless as teats on a boar. Even in the south they cannot cross the irrigation ditches and are constrained to roads that will make them fat easy targets. They are to fat to fit through the village streets, to heavy to cross bridges, they will do nothing but cause more collateral damage & make the locals hate ISAF more. What are they going to do; cruise Highway One? Trolling for IED's? More proof that the Marines are total idiots; just ask the Russians. Other than being a mobile roadblock, they are worthless in that enviroment. Tanks are the worst possible thing we could send to Afghanistan. The blown-up ones will make good propoganda on Al Jazeera though. Why do you think all the NATO tanks are sitting on the big FOB's & never seen outside the wire? Could that maybe be a clue?
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