October 22nd, 2010
01:24 PM ET

U.S. proposes $2 billion security package for Pakistan

The Obama administration announced a $2 billion,
multiyear security assistance package Friday to help Pakistan fight extremists
taking refuge in safe havens along its border with Afghanistan.

The five-year package would pay for military hardware and equipment
Pakistan needs for the counterinsurgency fight, Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton said. It is subject to congressional approval, and complements the $7.5
billion in civilian projects approved by Congress last year.

"The United States has no stronger partner when it comes to
counterterrorism efforts against the extremists who threaten us both than
Pakistan," Clinton said.

She made the announcement at the opening of the U.S.-Pakistan Plenary
Session at the State Department, alongside Pakistan's foreign minister, Mahmood
Qureshi.

The aid would extend from 2012 to 2017. It comes on the heels of a White
House report sent to Congress earlier this month that used unusually tough
language suggesting Pakistan is not doing nearly enough to confront the Taliban
and al Qaeda, despite repeated Obama administration statements that Pakistan is
working hard to crack down on militants.

Qureshi said the United States should not dismiss Pakistan's
contributions, and insisted that suggestions that Pakistan's efforts in the war
on terror are half-hearted are unfounded.

"Nearly 7.000 of our valiant law enforcement officials have perished in
this fight," Qureshi said. "We do not know what greater evidence to offer than
the blood of our people. Madam Secretary, we are determined to win this fight."

Some elements of the Pakistani military would be excluded from the aid
package because of human rights concerns, the State Department's spokesman said
later Friday.

The exclusions are in keeping with congressional requirements that no
military units about which there are human rights concerns can benefit from any
U.S. military aid, P.J. Crowley said at a news conference.

"A relatively small number" of units would be excluded, Crowley said.

Tensions between the United States and Pakistan rose in recent weeks
after increased American drone attacks over the Afghan-Pakistani border, one of
which killed two Pakistani border guards. Pakistan authorities responded by
closing key coalition supply routes into Afghanistan.

The United States has since apologized for the incident, and the routes
have reopened.

Pakistan has long claimed its military is geared toward defending itself
against threats from countries like India, and does not have the kind of
equipment it needs to fight insurgents. U.S. officials said they recognize
Pakistan's current military hardware is not perfectly suited to such
operations, but made clear the new aid must be directed toward fighting
extremists rather than India.

U.S. officials acknowledge the Pakistani military is stretched thin since
this summer's devastating floods, and has had to divert resources from the
fight against extremists to conduct relief efforts. They hope the new security
assistance will address the military's resource limitations so Pakistan can
redouble efforts to go after militants.

soundoff (83 Responses)
  1. USMC Forever

    I can't believe the stupid DEMS are giving this country more money to train terrorists to kill us. I can't wait for the elections when these Morons are voted out. Vote them all out even Obama's Mama needs to leave the White House!!!!

    October 27, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  2. sharif

    pakistani goverment in main is terrorist goverment,how USA pay this money for them ,they are taliban ,al -qa and more ,,,,,becouse they don't want peace for afghanistan , they love only well receive money ,,they are terrorist no.1 in the world ,USA, please you know it .Please , don't pay you this money for pakistan

    October 27, 2010 at 6:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. atal

    Looks like you have been 'outed' Mohammad A Dar.

    October 25, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Iaminthearmy

    I guess the war and what is going on over their is less important than blacks in america being poor, is that new news?

    Why would CNN take the AFGHANISTAN tab off the front page, who cares about blacks in america i want to know how our troops are doing and now i have to go through links to get to these pages.

    PUT IT BACK!

    October 24, 2010 at 7:50 pm | Report abuse |
  5. BANGASH

    THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE OF TWO BILLIONS DOLLARS WITH THE PAKISTAN BUT A PART OF US SPENDINGS IN US WAR ON TERROR.

    October 24, 2010 at 7:46 am | Report abuse |
  6. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    OH IT'S 2 BILLION, MORE OF A REASON FOR THE PAKIISTANI'S TO GO INTO NORTH WAZIRISTAN AND GET BIN LADEN!!!

    October 24, 2010 at 1:10 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      Sorry folks,I never posted that idiotic comment above. I wish that this bozo would post his right-wing nonsense under his own name for a change!

      October 25, 2010 at 2:50 am | Report abuse |
      • Dindy.....

        Dan in LAFAYETTE IN....your own posts are well written . Not the one written under your ID by some one else.

        October 27, 2010 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  7. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    OH I've got to make this comment to Obama from my ex-wife, why do you sir give away 2 million dollars to another country and cannot help the disabled and senior citizens with more money on their social security checks this coming year? I myself am disabled and can use the extra money but I know God does provide and I do know how much the war on terrorism is a priority for world peace, but if Pakistan does not want to take the fight further into the trial areas in the north Waziristan province I do not think we should be helping finance their war on terrorism because they do not take it as seriously as they should be! The ISI should be dismantled if they do not want to take a hard stand against terrorism or else we should not be giving them any more money to subsidize this war on terrorism!!!

    October 24, 2010 at 1:05 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      Oh the Pakistani people will wake up to your 360 degrees pack of liars and killers and finally want the government to take control of all of Pakistan!

      October 24, 2010 at 8:58 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dindy.....

      Dan in Lafayette, IN
      Very well written

      October 27, 2010 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
    • Dindy.....

      Dan in Lafayette, IN
      you are not disabled.....You are differently able.

      October 27, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  8. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    How could the the prince of peace condone a 55 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl?

    October 24, 2010 at 12:15 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      If He saw the spirit of truth as you call him taking advantage of a child like Muhammad did and then become the most revered person in the Islamic world He would ask why Father have you forsaken me, and HE DID!!!

      October 24, 2010 at 12:30 am | Report abuse |
  9. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    So you you can take verses of the Bible an use it to your advantage and call it prophecy for your prophet Muhammad? And what does God say about taking anything from his book or putting anything into it? Why should He have to die on the cross for your prophet to come? The Holy Spirit came to us upon His ascension to heaven! And His death had nothing to do with the coming of your false prophet!!!

    October 23, 2010 at 11:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      Also I thought you said the Bible was not the truth but a book full of 180 degrees criminals?

      October 23, 2010 at 11:56 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    He says that he could not send the counselor(in NIV, in KJV He calls him the helper), meaning the Holy Spirit, to you unless I go. John 16:5-11. I do know how much you revel in your beliefs, but if you would talk to an Islamic scholar he will tell you that I am not lying to you or spinning the truth!

    October 23, 2010 at 9:02 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    Jesus was the Holy Spirit in human form and did not sin and knew all truth, and went out to the sinners of the world and taught love, forgiveness and repentance and never once condemned them because of their sins or as you would call it their criminality!

    October 23, 2010 at 6:42 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    I am sorry to say that you do not know the history of your holy book and should ask some Islamic scholars about the ahruf 7 and the copies sent to Uthman for him to burn and send back to the Muslim states one "uncorrupted" version which discards 6/7th's of the original versions of the Koran! And as what is written in the hadith of Bukhari, Umar complained to the prophet that Hisham had recited Sura al-fuqan in a way different from what Umar had heard from the prophet, but the prophet said...this Koran has been revealed to be recited in seven different ways, so recite whichever is easier for you(footnote 43)! so it is written within your holy books from the prophet you call Muhammad that the Koran has been recited 7 different ways not one perfect way!

    October 23, 2010 at 6:34 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    What if that one Muslim person was the prophet Muhammad?

    October 23, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      Where and when did Jesus predict the coming of your prophet? And if you say in the Koran, was it not written by your prophet as he said it was recited to him by Gabriel? So does this not sound self proclaiming? And trying to be self righteous, after all his parents were pagans and he was a pagan himself until he became religious? Also let it be known that when the Koran was written the scribes themselves were not well educated in writing and that is why you have many different versions of the Koran that were burnt by Uthman in the ancient times of Islam!

      October 23, 2010 at 3:44 pm | Report abuse |
  14. sharifhemat

    IF ONE MOSLEM PERSON DOESN'T DOES GOOD ,IT DOESN'T MEANS ISLAM IS NOT GOOD , THIS IS SO FOR EVERY RELIGION

    October 23, 2010 at 8:57 am | Report abuse |
  15. RealMan

    This EVERY day news around the WORLD is an illusion... Islam is a peaceful religion...
    No Islam = PEACE... anyway what do u expect from society who legally allowed 50 year Prophet (Mohammed) marriage with 9 years old girl.
    Islam vs Islam= Bomb,
    Islam vs Buddha= Bomb (they destroy Buddha’s statues/temple in Indonesia, Afghan),
    Islam vs Jew= Bomb ,
    Islam vs Christian= Bomb,
    Islam vs Hindu= Bomb,
    Islam vs Atheist= Bomb,
    Western Country should stay away from any Islamic country!!.. America & Western are their no.1 enemy, basically they don’t like whatever the western do or not do, they cannot even make peace among themselves.
    The interesting thing is even America & Western are their no.1 enemy, millions of moslem are queuing to go to Western country try to go away from their Islamic state system.
    The other interesting/ a bit funny thing is once they live in the new (western) country their second or third generation will start to complain about the new country’s system (that not supporting Islam) compare to where their parents/grand parents came and running away from – they will demand for Sharia Law at the end they will prioritize Islam above their new country.
    less

    October 23, 2010 at 2:32 am | Report abuse |
  16. karan

    us is creating terroist by paying them hard earned us tax payers money ,
    and fight with smae idoits, pakistan will not change no matter what ,
    best thing for america is not fight them ,
    just contain them in there land and let thme solve there problems

    October 23, 2010 at 1:31 am | Report abuse |
  17. tpn51

    Lets see, 2 Billion for security in Pakistan or 2 Billion for schools in America. Think I'll flip a coin. OOPS! America looses.

    October 22, 2010 at 10:34 pm | Report abuse |
  18. doug ericson

    Its not money to stop the war. It is money to keep it going. Doug.

    October 22, 2010 at 10:05 pm | Report abuse |
  19. ...---...

    Where is our national health plan, our national education plan, our housing plan, our healthy food plan, and our alternative energy plan, and our oil cleanup ship, and our pink penis removing stealth sniper bombers with infrared goggles and deforestation capability for the women of congo?

    October 22, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • ...---...

      oh...and extensive anti-patriarchy training program. stop teaching that men are over women and children, and even other men (if they are different than themselves), and that *good* men are soldiers or we will have men going to war forever trying to be *good* men. STOP IT! It's wrong. It's a lie. Patriarchy isn't good for men or women. They have to dissociate to even go to these things. It's trauma. STOP IT! STOP training boys that they are better than everyone else...it doesn't make any sense.

      mitworld.mit.edu/video/729

      October 22, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
  20. hi5

    Obama has gone nuts!

    October 22, 2010 at 9:36 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Paki2010

    Go Paki go... more money to arm terrorists, army people and feudal politicians and yes the terror camps....

    And these idiots from India need to get their brains examined.. they simply complain about Paki terror but being wimpy does not help...... maybe we should actually give money to India to help them run drone missions into Pakistan to destroy terror camps there, maybe that will stop internal terror in Pakistan.....

    October 22, 2010 at 7:55 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Hey

    Validate sincerity of the PAK with commonsense

    October 22, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Ash

    Maybe US can support building a wall to keep Pakis in Pakiland... a few things from US could help stablize the sorry state of affairs..

    1. Give Baluchis independence. These poor guys have no chance, given the feudal nature of Pakistan and their wanting to crush any sign of strength amongst Baluchistan people.
    2. Give away the Northern terrorities to Afghanistan... so that you can use that entire area for target practice and as a testing range..
    3. Put all GOOD-Terrorists in Kashmir so that land can also be used as a testing range. The Kashmiri Pundits, the once proud but docile citizens of that area, have vanished as refugees to other parts of India ages ago.
    4. What to do with Pashtoons... yes, make these guys the rulers of Pakistan.... 1 pashtoon fighter equals 10 Paki army people, so they can do a better job of controlling internal terror..
    5. Arrest all the Musharaffs, Bhuttos and Shariff whatever... these guys have eaten away the core of Pakistan...
    6. Lastly remove Paki army and let all the now-disbanded army staff to find Gulf-jobs... there are a lot of Muslim-only jobs in the Gulf... oh yes. these guys can also join Chinese companies working in Africa.... or better still use these guys to build a human wall at Paki border with Afgahistan...
    7. Let Iran control the Paki sea coast.. and make sure no one escapes the frigging country.... and yes, cut all air traffic to Pakiland...

    And finally why do the rigmarole of giving money to Pakiland and that money indirectly funding overseas bank accounts? split the money right now and deposit each of the sums of money directly into account of Zardari, madrassashs, ISI, pak army generals...

    As along as you are taking away money from Americans, money that is actually borrowed by US government, let us do what is right.... a country that is effectively army-led does not deserve to be a "democracy", a kangaroo republics do not need to survive.

    October 22, 2010 at 7:49 pm | Report abuse |
  24. question

    Why dont US press more to get Pakistan's tax system working as Clinton once suggested. It is one of the worst and most corrupt in the world with most people (including rich) evading taxes. No instead we the taxpayer of the country need to fit the bill....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    October 22, 2010 at 7:36 pm | Report abuse |
  25. BLAH

    US don't really learn from its past!! Back in the days it was US who supplied weapons and funds to Iraq. It was US who funded, hired and provided logistic support to Bin landen's troop in Afghanistan...... A few years later, US spend trillions to take them off this world because they used the same resources US provided them against US...!! I see same thing happening with Pakistan! This ignorant war heads shouldn't be provided with any funds rather those funds should be used directly to destroy them in first place.

    October 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Eddie2010

    The Nobel committee called and they want their Peace Prize back.

    October 22, 2010 at 7:22 pm | Report abuse |
  27. BajaJohn

    Not being privy to the information and briefings the Secretary of State receives, then for us to speculate is really pointless. If the Pakistani's are fighting terrorists and losing men, the perhaps we should trust the judgment of our officials in this matter.,

    October 22, 2010 at 6:46 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sovereign

      That's about all we can do.

      October 22, 2010 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        Are you and BajaJohn really all that ignorant or are you two just trying to be funny? It's our public officials who got us into this mess as they cater more and more to the MIC(military-industrial-complex) and you're telling us to trust them??? What a joke!!!

        October 26, 2010 at 2:16 am | Report abuse |
    • Spiro T.Agnew

      No Dan,I believe that they're really that ignorant. After all,me and my buddy Richard managed to fool the American public up until Watergate broke and the people who replaced us are just as cunning!

      October 26, 2010 at 2:21 am | Report abuse |
  28. Eyes wide open

    oh so you guys are against the aid given by US to Pakistan. thats fine. dont give it to us and dont interfere in our matters any more. whatever happens then inside Pakistan and whatever subsequent affects that reach the outside world shouldn't disturb you or the proud existence of your 'hot dog' culture.
    please wake and see what's happening in the world, everything is not black and white. the cold war's over and America has to clean up the mess it started to win that war. it was you guys who paid billions to these Jihadists to fund their arms and go to the 'holy jihad' against the infidel communists. and at the end of the war, you just walked away, never giving a second thought about the mindless cyborgs that were created. something had to give. these guys needed a cause, and a leader, and they got Usama, and you know what happened next.
    But now again when people say that US doesn't need to do anything in the region and that 'its not our war', well my dear, it is, its your war, it was started by you and now you need to clean the mess and the country which you left in this great mess!

    October 22, 2010 at 6:31 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Bill

    Pakistan ,the epicenter of world terrorism , has convinced USA beyond reasonable doubt that anything to do in Afghanistan has to be done through Pakistan. Pakistan will extract at least $43 billion from USA eventually.
    What about Pakistan getting billions from its 2 oil rich Persian Gulf states who had recognised brutal Taliban regime till 9/11.
    Is it possible to win war on terror by having Pakistan as the closest ally? Why NATO forces are unsuccessful in Afghanistan after so many years?.

    October 22, 2010 at 6:16 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sovereign

      lol! are you high on something?
      How did you come up with $43 billion? and so far as I remember it was the US government who created the taliban not the Persians or the Arabs and the taliban are not threatening them (?)... Incased I missed some huge conspiracy, terrorism is a problem created by the west and now its at a point where we cannot just sit and get fat.

      Giving money to Pakistan seems like a band aid solution but imagine if American or British troops had to increase their numbers in Afghanistan? Even with the $2 billion, I highly doubt their success.

      October 22, 2010 at 7:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Bill

        Talibanism was born in Pakistan in 1981-82. It is a lie to say that US govt. created Taliban. Taliban ,backed by Pakistan and two other countries had occupied Afghanistan in 1996.
        Again terrorism is not created by West ,but islamic terrorism was started in Pakistan during Zia Ul Haq's regime.

        October 22, 2010 at 10:53 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Kieran B

    Sorry i'm not from the USA and don't really know what it's like there but here in Britain we still hear daily about more troops being killed so ye. Thanks for recognising the support.

    October 22, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  31. tauseef rasheed

    Usa wants to support their economy by selling arms to saudi arabia and india. But the fact remain that anyones hatred against Pakistan would not lessen the importance of its strategic location and its role in the region. The last nine years of history has shown that Americans and all other important power understands this. There is no free lunch so Americans are giving aid as they understand the position of Pakistan and what Pakistan have been delivering and will be doing in future. Indian can not do much about it. Indians can keep on bribing countries to get commonwealth game and prove how they can lead the world filthiest international games recently coded by bbc. So be logical in comments and understand that world only wants to make money out of you pocket. Keep on shouting but no one is bothering. Two more billion for PAKISTAN.

    October 22, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
    • proud pakistani

      Thanks USA. We are bloody born beggars. Look at Tauseef brothers response. Its matter of time before we disintegrate completely.

      October 22, 2010 at 5:54 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Rasheed Ahamad

    Why dont america increase its tips(money).

    October 22, 2010 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Vickman

    Pakistan is fighting your war every day of the week for the past 9 years. We have lost more soldiers to this needless war that all your American soldiers combined in Afghanistan and Iraq. Our economy is in shambles because of a US Sponsored corrupt government. Pakistan's most corrupt man who spend around 8-10 years in prison and was living in exile is now the President of the country. This is the least your selfish country can do for us. There are virtually no jobs, no investment either local or foreign coming from anywhere in Paksitan and the Pakistani Army is fighting a war inside its borders against terrorist groups. It is also very true that the Americans will sell arms to all the countries in the region. They get those fat cheques and we spend our money buying their arms. Also, with this current Zardari government in place I am sure the money will never reach any programs but rather get sucked dry by these blood suckers.

    October 22, 2010 at 4:04 pm | Report abuse |
    • Sovereign

      All true honey, but what bothers me about Pakistanis is this taking absolutely no accountability for what happens to "them"!
      Wake up and own up to your own mistakes, just pointing fingers at India or UK or USA is not doing you guys much good, or is it?

      October 22, 2010 at 4:26 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Wonderboy

    US govt. agencies tell that Pak. is diverting all it's weapons and aid money to buy conventional weapons to fight India and not the terrorists which it's own former president Musharaff has claimed are being sponsored by it. So US by giving more is only destabilising the region further and wants to keeps it arms and weapons factories working as Obama is just about to arrive in India and India is about to sign a 15-20 Billion dollar pacakge to buy military hardware ... So the same hand feeds both... the only beneficiary the military industrial complex of washington !!!

    Hail Obama !

    October 22, 2010 at 3:50 pm | Report abuse |
    • Dan in Lafayette, IN

      Well stated,Wonderboy. Thank you.

      October 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • Paki2010

      64 virgins needed here.... a a drum roll please or ahem in our case a goat bleat.....

      October 22, 2010 at 8:01 pm | Report abuse |
  35. tauseef rasheed

    We all must understand that Pakistan is playing a very vital role in eliminating enemies of USa in the region and its a verywise decision to support Pakistani govt and Pakistan military to support in their fight against terrorism. Usa must understand their limitations also and should not put unnecessary pressure as it would effect the war against terrorism and must help inresolving the regional conflicts like kashmir as it will bring long term stability in the troubled region.

    October 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
    • desperado

      Yes I am sure resolving the Kashmir issue will solve all the problems with Pakistan. The Kashmir dispute is responsible for Taliban, Kashmir was responsible for floods, for corruption, and for everything wrong with Pakistan today.

      Stop looking for bogeymen to deny your problems. The sooner Pakistan stands up to them and gets its priorities right, the better it will be for it and the rest of the world.

      October 22, 2010 at 4:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • earthizen

        well said bro. It is imperative that a country formed on the basis of an imported religion is proned to fall apart. No wonder it is a failed state surviving on the basis of foreign aid right from its creation. its a clear cut example for the nations of the world how they shouldn't run just on the basis of medieval theocracy. pakis who bark about their greatness and kashmir must first save their asses from the drones.Islam hasn't done anything good to the south asia instead it has divided(India, bangladesh, pakistan) the brothers who lived in peace and harmony from the vedic period. Now the people who want this 2 billion aid go and beat up ur mammas for showing their feet....

        October 22, 2010 at 4:33 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Drew

    You all are idiots and missing the point as usual. I genuinely hope that Clinton is blatantly lying to our faces, because the alternative is to live in a world where our strongest ally in the war on terror gives our money to terrorists, and we just gave them $2 billion. In which case, like, we are totally screwed.

    October 22, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
    • Babak from Los Angeles

      Dear friend it seems like you just made the same point as the rest of us ... Why the insult brother? You have a nice weekend.....

      October 22, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  37. eclectical

    Nature created the whole of earth equally for all humans. Humans have created unnatural geographical boundaries. So, as long there are geographical boundaries the wars will go on between humans on one pretext or the other.

    October 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
  38. CT

    Pak. does NOT deserve it sure. 2Billion waste. It can be used to generate more jobs, improve the world in other ways.

    October 22, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Ash

      Just the thought that US is giving money to a double-talking Islamic nation is infuriating.... the Pakis can sort out their own mess IF THEY WANT TO.... but they are not. the generals simply want money from US and arms... arms to fight both "BAD-TERRORISTS" and India.
      Unfortunately for Pakistan, the BAD-GOOD combo of terror is coming to haunt it... but do they care... they send their kids abroad or live in defense enclaves... look at the ase with which Musharaff is living in UK... and so have all the other leaders overseas... billions of dollars have left Pakistan... and all we have to show for it is the debt that US is getting into to save whom? itself?

      October 22, 2010 at 7:18 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        To your prophet Muhammad, and he called them the Ahruf 7..

        October 22, 2010 at 8:06 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        All recitations were different.

        October 22, 2010 at 8:12 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        Maybe Gabriel was playing a joke on your prophet or was he listening to the devil?

        October 22, 2010 at 8:15 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        So you deny that your prophet asked Gabriel to recite the Koran to him 7 times and each time it was different? This being known to Islamic scholars as the ahruf 7. And what about the doctors evidence that the Koran is wrong when Muhammad says that flesh is produced on the bone in the womb of the mother or that the fetus is just an unformed lump after 80 days as written in the hadith?

        October 23, 2010 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  39. Jon

    Great!
    We give a country money to buy our weapons?

    Don't we have enough debt? Or is this some sort of sick joke of a jobs bill?

    October 22, 2010 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
    • highlighter

      u r right, America is the biggest supplier of weapons in the world. Why dont US play a role for peace then to destablise the world.60 billion deal with Saudi Arabia (with no democracy) and 6.5 billion weapons deal with Taiwan shows the real face of US.Instead of giving a pen for writing,it gives weapons to the world..

      October 22, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
      • BANGASH

        thank's for this realistic approach and saying the universal truth

        October 24, 2010 at 6:11 am | Report abuse |
    • ...---...

      sort of looks like a racket doesn't it?

      October 22, 2010 at 9:49 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Eleazar

    It is a shame that USA government is supporting Pakistan. They first must support Mexico’s drug war or at least attend their drug consumption or weapons traffic.

    October 22, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Dan in Lafayette, IN

    Why am I not surprised? Now we see where the priorities of the right-wing thugs in Washington lie. Let's just forget about our infrastrcture,our schools and our elderly and just give our hard earned tax money away! Furthermore,don't expect these upcoming elections to change anything,they won't!!!

    October 22, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
    • Babak from Los Angeles

      I agree with you and I am getting disgusted by them giving our money away. This past Monday my kids did not go to school. It was a "forlough" day! Teachers don't get paid and don't come to work...... Yet we are spending the money we don't have double fisted over-sees ... Makes me ill... Have a good weekend..B.

      October 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
      • jade

        Hey, as long as Pakistan 'promises' not to use any of our hardware against India, its ok to forget about the troubles in our own country....right?

        That was America does: we arm the world and 'hope' we dont go up against that same hardware in the future *cough* taliban

        October 23, 2010 at 1:20 am | Report abuse |
      • sharifhemat

        pakistani goverment in main is terrorist goverment,how USA pay this money for them ,they are taliban ,al -qa and more ,,,,,becouse they don't want peace for afghanistan , they love only well receive money ,,they are terrorist no.1 in the world ,USA, please you know it .Please , don't pay you this money for pakistan

        October 23, 2010 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
    • MindBuster

      welldone Pakistan,,, suck more blood of Americans who are destabalizing the whole world.

      October 22, 2010 at 5:41 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        Beautifully put,MindBuster. Thank you.

        October 22, 2010 at 6:28 pm | Report abuse |
    • LarryKegel(US Army)

      I guess that you'll never tell us how much the MIC paid you to post that video,will you? Anything to drum up support for this obscene war!!! How revolting!!!

      October 25, 2010 at 2:45 am | Report abuse |
    • Swat

      Obama's fascination with Pakistan is baffling.
      Hi is just giving billions of dollars to Pakistan which has in the past simple used such grants for training terrorists against US, India and others. It has happened in the past and will happen again. Osama bin laden has safe havens in Pakistan protected by the government. Hillary Clinton herself has said that in press conference. But god knows why US continues to just give away money to them. With this package Pakistan will get ~10 billion dollars from US in the name of war for freedom.
      Americans elected Obama to rebuild America. I don’t know how well he has done that. But he certainly has poor sense of history and no common sense. Or he is just too pro-Pakistan? I liked him before he got elected and he showed his true colors.

      October 25, 2010 at 3:13 am | Report abuse |
    • Change

      Dan seems like your facts are in error. Last I checked the left wing thugs were in charge across the board. How is this the rights fault? The left has had years to fix this...so blaming it on the right doesn't work. We the left are now accountable. Quit blaming the right and make the left do something productive. Mr. Clinton used to do this...but we arn't doing it now. We are only paying off big banks and making promises our kids have to pay for 50 years from now. Quit whinning and do something like return to capitalizm....not socialism. If we the left don't start doing something we will pay.

      I say the first step is listening to the voters and people in America. Not your secret agenda. WE CAN NO LONGER BLAME THE RIGHT....IT IS OUR PROBLEM. Like someone with an addiction. Until you recongize you have a problem...you don't start addressing it.

      October 26, 2010 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
      • Dan in Lafayette, IN

        The facts are that both Pres.Obama and the Congress are in the pockets of the MIC(military-industrial-complex).Until we elect a more liberal Congress and a president who'll just stand up and say No to the MIC,nothing is going to change!!!

        October 26, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • UnclearLar

      The United States cannot save every child on the planet. Many of our own American babies don't 'make it' for the same reason that most around the globe don't.....parental failure to provide and guide....for reasons that are "whatever." Still, the responsibilty to develop productive citizens of this planet fall on the shoulders of parents. Prepare, plan, and do it well. The spirit of the world will appreciate your contribution.....even if it doesn't acknowledge it.

      February 2, 2011 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |