The Obama administration is looking to turn crisis into opportunity, hoping its robust response to the devastating floods in Pakistan will help improve its poor image among a skeptical Pakistani public.
Since the floods arrived, the United States has been opening the flood gates of aid, starting with an initial pledge of $10 million in humanitarian relief. U.S. disaster experts were dispatched to Pakistan, and American helicopters fanned out across the affected area, airlifting people to safety and delivering supplies. At Pakistan's request, four Chinook and two Black Hawk helicopters are on the way.
Lest Pakistanis think the United States isn't sensitive to their Muslim traditions, Washington sent more than 300,000 halal - or, by Islamic dietary law - meals to the country, along with water filtration systems.
And the United States is building bridges in Pakistan. Literally. The U.S. has offered to build temporary replacements for highway bridges damaged by flooding in the country.
The State Department is working on several public-service campaigns - including one in the United States to urge U.S. Pakistanis to donate through the texting campaign, and another for a Pakistani audience to drive home the point that the U.S. will be there for Pakistan in its time of need.
The United States also is resurrecting a texting campaign it used to help Pakistanis displaced by last year's fighting between Pakistani forces and extremists in the tribal areas. Americans can donate $10 by texting the word "SWAT" to 50555, with the donations going to a United Nations organization that is providing tents and emergency aid to displaced families.
The U.S. relationship with Pakistan, which it views as a strategically important country, continues to be a work-in-progress. Since taking office, the Obama administration has spent a huge amount of time, effort and money in outreach to Pakistanis and has promised not just aid, but a commitment of partnership. The struggle is convincing Pakistan that U.S. interests are aligned with its own.
When it comes to Pakistan, the United States seems to always get its knees cut out from under it just as progress seems to loom. Most recently, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's triumphant return from a July visit to Islamabad, which was widely considered as a successful trip, was interrupted by the leak of thousands of Pentagon documents on the WikiLeaks website, many of which criticized the Pakistani military's ties to the Taliban.
But the United States has learned over time that the way it reacts to a disaster can also be a game-changer. Just before the 2004 Asian tsunami, U.S. opinion in the Muslim world was at an all-time low. But massive U.S. aid to Indonesia and other Asian Muslim countries helped the United States regain its footing in the region and improve its image.
Specifically in Pakistan, the United States found a significant improvement in its image after the earthquake in 2005. Public opinion in Pakistan toward the U.S. was on a definite upswing after a substantial U.S. relief response, but quickly spiraled back downward because the U.S. attention toward the country trailed off.
Once again, the United States is hoping for a similar boost, offering wary Pakistanis an opportunity to view their relationship with the U.S. through a different lens.
But this isn't just about the relationship between the United States and Pakistan. It's about the fragile relationship between Pakistanis and their own government. The United States knows only too well from its own experience with Hurricane Katrina and the recent oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that citizens expects a response from their own government and grow disillusioned when they don't get it.
Already plagued by mistrust among its people, the Pakistani government is competing for hearts and minds with extremists groups, which are rushing to help those in need. In 2005, the Pakistani government's failure to tackle immediate relief efforts after the quake enabled Islamic charities linked to terrorist groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba, which was blamed for the 2008 attacks on the Indian city of Mumbai, to fill the vacuum with aid, services and camps for displaced people.
The difference between now and then is that the Pakistani's government inept response was at best an embarrassment. The country was more stable and the economy was in good shape. Pakistan didn't have ten-hour electricity shortages and wasn't battling a civil war with a massive insurgency with suicide bombings every week.
Today's Pakistan is much more fragile, and the United States doesn't want the floods to be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Public relations benefits aside, millions of people devastated by floods and afflicted with disease and famine would only bring more instability to Pakistan. That would further hamper Pakistan's ability to join in the fight the Taliban and al Qaeda. And that is bad for the United States, and is another incentive for the quick infusion of aid.
What's more, one of the areas hit hardest by the heavy rain and flooding is Swat, the infested cross-border region with Afghanistan, where the Taliban and al Qaeda are believed to be hiding and the heart of fighting between Pakistani forces and the Taliban goes on. The stakes for the United States in this underbelly of extremism couldn't be higher.
On the plus side, the U.S. engagement with Pakistan is deeper than it has ever been, and has created an office of the Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan, headed by Richard Holbrooke. The office is equipped with a small army of experts who on the day of the flood were able to assemble a whole-of-government response in close consultation with the White House.
The State Department also hopes the new technologies the office helped pioneer in Pakistan, such as a U.S.-backed mobile social network and the Swat texting campaign, will also prove effective tools to help Pakistanis themselves respond.
Undoubtedly the hope is the U.S. response will save lives in Pakistan, but whether it will win hearts and minds among Pakistan's deeply skeptical public remains to be seen.
I don't like Obama but thats what God would want a christian to do even if I doubt it's going to help the view pakistanis have on U.S it's not important cause i'm pretty sure God is watching and HE won't forget. The money that's going there is the money of americans and God knows it. :)
oh yeah! and once everyone is all nicely starved and cold send in the drones to finish them off.
jack h. you actually make me proud !!! you can't be from the US!! all of you weak non military trained useless bleeding heart Liberal scu* should go help your Paki friends, they will LOVE you after that !!! *rolling eyes*
gotta love mother nature!! hopefully tons of rain coming for Pak in the coming days, couple of thousand dead is not enough, now a huge hearthquake would be great and more and more rain.
HOW CAN WE HELP OTHERS WHEN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT WON'T HELP US. If you live anywhere in the untied States today and have suffered from a natural disaster or or even economical woes our help is never there or slow in coming.
How right you are,bambi.Thank you for your imput.
Bambi you are right and i lob u, will you marry meeeeeeee???????
The article makes a lot of sense. I would like my tax money spent in helping other human beings regardless of their religion than military adventurism. Contrary to popular belief Islam is a compassionate religion and the poor masses of Pakistan will appreciate the compassionate America as oppose to the might America.
UN reporters say that this flood could be estimated as the bigger than last 3 big disasters combined in terms of number of people effected and misplaced ..... i.e. 1- kashmir earth quake, 2- Tsunami 3- Haiti - combined ...
Man, had to dump in the field without toilet paper, thank Allah for the Koran so I could wipe my Pakistani, pages are thick too, but a little rough on the anus!!!!
Brother !! why are you hurting us like this .. what I and others here have caused harm to you .. none .. some freaks did some thing bad due to some political reasons ... why are you punishing us for that .. ???
Because Brother, thats what I do. Its my job to make those responsible for all the death pay for their dastardly deeds. If killing other people is so easy for them, I give them what they lack, Justice and payback.
The only solution for Pakistan is... Muslimejourneytohope dot com
From the BBC:
The ties between the military and the media are strong.
If the media have a piece of information which they can use to puncture the balloon of unfriendly propaganda, they use it only when they are sure it will have maximum impact”
End Quote Senior Pakistani lawmaker
The military often use the media to protect its hold on the giant corporate empire which it has built.
In the 1980s the military did this through open censorship. Since the 1990s it has evolved subtler ways.
It controls almost all access to big stories, and has therefore been able to raise a corps of "friendly" journalists who now control most key jobs in Pakistani media due to their "contacts".
President Zardari's supporters suggest the media could have made up the story of the ISI cancelling its trip to the UK in order to spark an anti-Zardari campaign, which intensified as the scale of the flood damage became clear.
The government, which is already under attack from all quarters – the military, the judiciary and the political groups that support Islamic militants – finds itself on a difficult wicket while dealing with the media, says a senior member of the government, who requested anonymity.
"If the government has a piece of information which they can use to puncture the balloon of unfriendly propaganda, they use it only when they are sure it will have maximum impact," he said.
Privately, politicians more or less subscribe to views expressed by Mr Cameron and say military officers are the ones "looking both ways" on the Taliban.
These politicians desperately need a normalisation of relations with India and Afghanistan because that is the only way they can create business and employment opportunities for their voters and stay popular.
But the military is afraid this will erode its huge business empire which provides thousands of corporate sector jobs to retiring officers every year.
Sad isn't it? But we can send money all around the world to help out these flood victims, but we only send limited help to Tenessee for their floods.
That is sad
After 26/11 Mumbai attack and worse disowning by Pakistan govt and its people there is hardly any sympathy or soft corner left for any kind of reconciliation. Forget help, there is strong feeling or revulsion and no civilized neighborly feeling left on other side.
Break the country of Pakistan, divide them and throw them out of South Asia, let the pieces join Yemen, Sudan and Somalia. That is where they need to be in terms of stability and ideology.
What has Islamic revolution or its rigid practice given? Countries no one wants to do business or respect except for their natural resource. If not for oil they would be backward as they lived in 7th century if not stone age. What has USA given, J@pan, South Kore@, Modern Europe and not China and India. Well developed or on way of prosperity. When this bigoted idiots are going to learn or are they eternally blinded not to see the other world?
Pakistan has been a elusive partner, accusing us of ditching them after Soviet collapse, and after 911 with our boots in Afghan they now cry ho@rse of interference and almost on verge of loosing the WOT. It is plain and simple they are milking and we are suckers. Crush Pak ARMY-ISI everything will be solved. They talk with forked tongue call their terrorist as "non state actor" and Hamid Gul to be retired and do not have any say. How do you define most of terrorist passing through Pak does not have endorsement in their passport? The country is messed up do not trust them.
Good... no funds for Pakistan....We NEED the money for our own people US's funds are in a big deficit. They are milking us for what we're worth. Our hearts are good here, but getting wise to some of these countries antics.What countries gave US aide during disasters, even 911?
She wasn't looking very happy!!! Can You really blame Her???
She is one Beautiful Woman!!! She isn't a bad singer either...
very complex ,as for aid now,hell yes.
Woman like them are worth fighting for!!! (WINK)
This photo should start turning all the NATO troops on!Maybe they can find some male photos for the female forces over there.
After reading alll of them I can say none of these posts by Muslims suppots Taliban or their extreme vesion of Islam. Pakistanis are not Talibans. We want to support Pakistani people in their time of need because their government is our ally in this war against terrorism. This will also help us improve our image. This aid will need much less money than what we have had to spend in the war and most importantly we will also save our troops
Sounds like a Persian or Arabic song.
no its a pushto song, shot in north pakistan, look at the urdu scrolls
What do we do when certain people are blind to certain truth? They have something we all lack, brainwash on ideology and perception of world. Nothing can be done to change their rigid, narrow and biased ideology. We on other side are bit unaware of their religion and cultural sensitivity of others from diffferent faith. This is compounding problem and creating challenges we rarely faced or we assume every one are aware of it. They are battle hardened and we civilized are not. They give great importance to faith, we are more secular in our outlook. We are exposed to various cultures and food habits, they are not. In a case let us assume we send Italian rice for flood affected area, they in no way can utilize them in their traditional preparation like pilaf. Assume we try to make Italian risotto using Basmati rice. Also offering them ham or non halal meat is certain way to infuriate their ego yada yada yada.
Only someone from the developed world would pose a question on whether disaster relief wil be well received......it's disaster relief meant to help folks much, much worse off than you and me.....don't expect anything in return....remember you are part of what you yourself call the civilized world.....act civil, be generous if you can afford it, my taxes go to subsidize US dairy and grain producers and I say go ahead and help out...send grain and dairy products....we have too much....in the US, we actually have excess supply of dairy and grain that we treat as waste and dispose accordingly instead of sending it to the less fortunate. It's called price line management.....let's start now and be a different America
Appreciate your noble idea.
It is said that muslims lose their forethought the same time they lose their foreskin! Day one!
Why do all other religions wait to except new people into their folds, usually after puberty (so they can make an informed choice) and muslims, they are born muslim and cannot change without threat of death! Peace loving bunch those muslims!
Its a one way ticket or hell, if you choose their faith.
Amen To That!!!
I never heard a Muslim burning a Bible in USA or elsewhere but there is a chuch in USA which is sponsoring 'burn Quran' day. I never saw Muslim drawing pictures of Jesus or Moses but we all like to draw their pictures. They are most tolerant towards us whereas we are not. This is very complicated.
I keep on saying that all Muslin are bad!!! There are bad People in all Religions...
You are right they don't burn the bible just the churches and execute christian. What world are you living in. Maybe someone should open a christian learning center in a muslim country. That would never happen. They burn our flag. Everything is just great lets give them more money so they can lie to our face and disrespect the U.S some more. This is one tax payer sick of giving our money to someother country. Before you say I don't know what it is like over there I have been here twice. Nothing changes. When you live in the stone age a flood can't bring you much further back.
So many muslim and islamists trying to write comments on here which cannot change the facts that the government and the people of pakistan are against becoming modern and joining the real world! They take the cash and aid from the infidels but hate us all! Where are the islamic countries, why do they not help?
Because they know their money will not be well spent!
fergie I have heard its compulsory for Muslims to give charity to each other. I have been to their mosques latly and They are already giving a lot of disaster relief. However it is us who need to send this help so it can improve our image and also increase trust on both sides, so we can win this war by breakin cycle of hatred.
Right they are fighting for Their lives just so that they can starve to death!!! Unless both the United States, Afghanistan and Pakistan are killing Their People because they are Poor???
According to the UN you're full of crap. There's only UAE and Quait giving big time yet .The European countries are giving alot per capita. I haven't seen any big time giving by the Saudies,Egypt,Syria,Iran or Libia. Why are we "the Infidels" expected to bail out Pakistan when there's so many Islamic Countries that should be doing for their "Brothers".
The cost of damage due to flooding exceeds the costs of fire, earthquake and epidemic combined.
Yet it's the least prepared for disaster.
CEO Sand Brick Technologies, LLC
Teach a man how to fish, unfortunaely Pak suckers wanted fish instead and get dissapointed at every shortcoming.
Moji, they caused it themselves Pakistan and Afganistan keep lying to us and not using the money we give them for the real cause. Again the USA is being treated as Suckers by these low lifes. You cannot effectively fight a WAR for the people when the people don't help the LIBERATORS to set them free. They are the main problem, so what is your answer. How do you make the people help, they know who and where the terrorist pig is but will protect them. If the people won't help screw them and pull our troops out give them no money and watch the Taliban set up shop and start Sharia Law for those dumb people, is that what they want?????
The Pakistanis were and are free people and they were living fine before USA engaged them in the cold war and things turned worse after 9/11 when they changed sides on your behest. They are fighting your war. You are not fighting their war. BTW , the money that you gave them, you gave it to their corrupt president so he can become even richer. Their people are suffering and they do not trust you. There is your chance to win their support. Don't give it to their greed govt. Give it to Islamic relief or Helping hands. BTW Islamic relief is the same Islamic group that gave aid to Haitians early this year.
Right like they weren't worried about the Tarriest and India!!! If you call having a gun to your head as free??? I guess your right!!! Would You really want that kind of Freedom??? I know I wouldn't!!!
Right the only Country that tells the truth is the United states right??? Look at the Republicans how truthful they are about everything!!!
USMC Forever, my dear friend it seems like you have no knowledge of whats going on there .. i ask you
who is funding taliban ..
who are taliban ... who made them .. (who was charlie wilson?????????) read a bit .. dear .. who spent billions to create them ( they were then called mujahideen) then after the cold war he asked for 5 million for building schools for the afghan children .. was he given what was the answer from senate ... ? now these children of mujahideena re called taliban ...
why are they fighting against you ...
what is going on there .. did you read about 50 people innocent people killed attending a funeral in Afghanistan by US troops .. 2 days ago ...
do u have any idea what is going on there .. ?
you have absolutely no idea .. u just know a few discussions on tv channels and news papers and people make out of no where
Ali, what are you talking about, we are talking about floods and the people. Stupid Beeeooooooochhh!!!!
I live in US and i admire people over here .. but surprised to see the comments by some of them over here ... they are commenting about a nation who has suffered the most from terrorism and terrorists in the war against terrorism to make US and world more safe .. they have lost almost more than 40000 lives in this war ... 5000 soldiers and 40000 civilians ... and the behavior of their so called friend Nation (USA) is that they are against any help to the suffering nation even in the era of disaster ... so disappointing ...
These People if they can't make money off the wars they are against them!!! They are the same People that say the American Workers would rather collect Unemployment than work... Because they are lazy!!!
no news on US troops attack over a funeral ... killing many innocents .... and people are talking here that the poor countries are exporting terrorism ... wow ....
We need to get rid of the Republicans and the Other Idiots that think They know better than the Leaders of the United States now!!!
Thruthhurts: The Tarriest are losing ground that they can fight in!!! Pretty soon the will have to fight at sea like the Pirates... You know whats happening to them!!!
Please tell Me one Country that isn't Corrupted besides Israel???
I thought if someone from the Country that attacks you??? That they are asking You to Attack Them!!!
Lets all pray for a plague to wipe out the IGNORANT PEOPLE posting on this forum.
I agree Miller Man, but I will go a step further, how about a plague that takes out 3rd world poopholes with no intelligence so that the I.Q. of mankind can rise 50 points. What do you say my beer buddy???
Because People like you would be drowning that is why!!!
GOD is to busy taking care of those that believe in Him!!!
Do you know something Phunnie boy? I get awfully sick and tired of the arrogance and self-rightiousness of the Americans who think that they have some God-given right to take any country that they want just like the Germans did in WW2.
How right you are,Larry! I completely agree.
Larry,did it ever occur to you that we might just have a right to be in Afghanistan?After all,it is our duty to police the world from Communists,terrorist or what have you.Besides,Barack Obama may have a good reason to want to fight Islam.And finally,the majority of these bloggers can't all be wrong,can they,Larry!Enough said!!!
You should get rid of the screen name Paki Boy, there is no way in hell you are from America. You are no different then the rest of these uneducated Religious fanatics on this site. What friggin retards!!!!
One more thing smart @ss Paki, You protected a waste who came to America and attacked us and killed 3000 Americans, this is now why we are in your poophole kicking your @sses. We will not stop until all you rat Bast****ds are dead, got it stinkin Pakis???? Like your Jihad now MFs???
Earnie Beatie: I never said we should not be in Afghanistan... If you check I always said we shouldn't have been in Iraq!!!
I wonder how the people of Pakistan feel when the rice bags say USA on em instead of "free from the Taliban" the sad
truth is we are feeding the Taliban in Pakistan's time of need. If the people of Pakistan don't the see the difference
between the indifference of the Taliban and our support then this whole scenario of us wasting our kids on them
continues. Either have a war, invade the Taliban lot or get the hell out.
They may reject the USA rice saying it is inferior compared to basmati they are used to. May be ok during crisis to feed pigeons I guess.
Right the same way we are feeding Hamas... They steal the food from the others!!! Why do you think we are fighting them???
It is wishful thinking to believe that helping the flood victims by serving halal food will improve the poor image of the US. The flood was caused by Allah in the first place Pakistan has been 'helping' the US kill muslims in Afghanistan. It is therefore the right of the Pakistanis to expect and the duty of the US to help Pakistan. There is nothing to be grateful about.
They know it is better than any other Country gives them!!!
Umme and others who dragged India in this conversation – It is quite humorous to say that nothing is wrong with Pakistan and some of the folks that literally have problems with India, Afghanistan and America. The cycle of hatred you talk about starts with your neighbors and it seems that you have that cycle of hatred towards India as well. I won't talk about Kashmir because Balochistan has worst autonomy than Kashmir and worst killings by security forces than Kashmir. I wont talk about anything else becuase I have great pakistani friends who are really great people and loving friends. I don't have hatred towards pakistanis or pakistan but I do question people like yourself who think that nothing is wrong with your country or people who live there who preach martyrism and wahaabist islam. I think if Pakistan paid close attention to SWAT and Frontier areas and made education a priority and the ISI stopped contributing to using these "FREEDOM FIGHTERS" against india and elsewhere to have more control we might get somewhere. I see you keep saying that this is not pakistani war. I wonder if there was no war what would pakistan be like with all these suicide bombers and freedom fighters. They will try to make it into a ISLAMIC STATE OF PAKISTAN with islamic sharia laws where there is no freedom. I think most of my pakistani friends agree they will never want karachi to be like that or lahore to be like that. So before you drag India, afghanistan or USA in this conversation, please accept that there is something that needs to be done to the mindset of yours and million others like you.
I don't hate any Country!!! I just hate the People that is running the Countries... Why is the United States the only one that is expect to help Police them??? What is the United Nation and Nato for???
Never. no amount of Aid to Pakistan will ever help the US improve its image; actually the question should be posed as – will islamic Pakistan ever form a friendship with America. That would be easier to answer given Pakistan's history of terrorism, anti christian, anti hindu, anti semitic stance. The western world is fooling itself thinking that Paksitanis want friendship; their goal is single, suck every dollar out of the west and kill as many CHristians, Hindus, and Jews as possible. You don't need any more proof other than watch television footage of the ordinary pakistani civilian burning flags of America, Europe, India, and Israel. If the common man has that much animosity – imagine what the more fundamentalist among them thinks of the USA. The policy of appeasement is a policy bound to fail. It has never worked in human history. Fortress North America is teh way to go and monitor every Paskitani in America. There is no such thing as a moderate pakistani.
You sure don't think very much of Our Country do You???
They are worthless animals that breed like rats!!!! Need India to lob a few nukes over the border.
Indians are the WORST of all, slimey, little ass_oles!!
The only ones that are bad are the Leaders!!! The People really aren't bad...
Instead of using Nukes... They should help them fight the Tarriest!!!
we gave billions and billions free to pakistan in return they did nothin, ever one knows they need to do more, this is golden opportunity for terrorist trainer pakistan and it's intelligence agency to help them financially. if we would have just use this free billions on our own millitary then i am sure we would be in much better shape and would have more control over taliban while pakistan would be on their knees begging us to help thier failed state
Right I guess Their Military killing Our Enemy isn't doing anything is it???
No what they have to do instead of having Their troops at the Boarder of Pakistan and Afghanistan... They should use Their troops to help fight the Tarriest!!!
are u sure they didint do any thing in return .. in fact what they have done they didnt get any thing in return from US and allies ...
they lost 40000 civilians and 5000 soldiers and u say that they have done nothing .. bravo
It probably won't help as we as Americans are so self conscious that we likely remove all indication of where the aid came from and let the Pakistanis deliver it.
I bet the oor gets more aid that the People in the United States!!!
Poor (Sorry) My p didn't show!!!
Stop Sucking Up to Countries that hate us
Better that what you think of them!!!
It is a good thing are military is helping the people of pakistan.But i do not think it will change what they think about us.
You juust might have something there!!!
Zerk you are 100% right. USA has pioured Billlions in last 10 years to help the poor and educate them but the corrupt and arrogant Pakis have used the money to buy guns and bombs and train terrorists. We have solid proof that thier ISI has close link with all terrorist orgnazations. ISI Pakistan spy Agency. No matter what you give them, this country and its people will always go against us. Hope the U. S. adminstation understand this and should only help with the condition that they handover all the Neclear Weopons and Osama Bind Ladin to USA.
Bush and Cheney gave Him everything else!!! I'm surprice they already didn't give it to them??? I wonder how Bin Laden loves Texas???
pak will get all the money and aid from US and will slap again. Most untrustworthy nation which is on the brink of civil war. Didn't US helped them very much when they had the earthquake few years back? Did that bring goodwill? Aiding Pak is like feeding a snake. US need to direct its troops to Pak from Afganistan. Because, Pak is the country which has no invention, innovation or forward thinking. They can only think of new ways in exporting terrorism.
Right Obama, the Democrats and Hillary don't know anything compared to Bush and Cheney do they???
As Gibbs said, you can't waste a good crisis.
Just 10 days ago the Madam Secretary Hillary in her usual pant suit handed over $500 million to that corrupt to the hilt rotten to the core so called Pakistani President, He in turn along with his cohorts and extended family decided to travel to Europe and UK to live high on the hog , go on shopping sprees , find more property to buy for his lot and channel the money to safe havens . The name to the game with these Pakistani thugs is the same. They have never cared about the 85% of the poor ignorant and illiterate villagers all under the control of land owners of the Zaldari types, rather built mausoleums for their dead rather then help the failed and dysfunctional Pakistan and its masses.
I don't think she gave it to the President!!! I'm sure she made sure it went to the Country... The President went to England for a different kind of help!!! You sure don't think much of Our Government do You??? I guess You thought that Bush and Cheney were better right???
I think our govt should find out the legitimacy of the money thats going into their country. Our hard earned money is probably going to the their army that supports terrorists. Time to wake up fellow Americans before they send more terrorists to us and also empty our treasury
Right like how they did with the Mortgage Companies???
There is a phrase in the subcontinent: playing guitar in front of an ox. Hahahaha
You also can't change anybody who doesn't want to change. Islam is a quasi-religious-political movement, listening to west and reforming themselves is not their goal.
Before winning hearts of Islamists in Pakistan, the US economy would go bankrupt. Good luck!
Bush and the Republicans already did that to us with Their spending and the Iraq war!!!
I got a better idea, if we simply don't give them any aid, maybe so many Taliban and Al Qaeda will die we won't have to anybody to left to fight.
Trust me. no one wants your 'aid'. Just get the hell out of other people's homes and stop the massacre. One thing they don't tell you here – no one wants you out there.
I agree the food feeds the Taliban and our enemies, they hate us, let the Taliban spend their war money on feeding themselves, screw Allah's plan
They get Their Aid from Russia and China... Not us unless your Bush and Cheney!!!
Everyone loves us when we are giving them tons of money, then they hate us when we need someting. Screw them all. Just let our military loose and do what they are trained to do and our problems will be solved. America's biggest problem is its "leaders." They for the most part have reached a level of corruption that has left our country unable to make any real progress. Give Pakistan all our money, when it is all gone they will still hate us. Give them nothing, but make correct policy on what is best for the U.S. and they will at least respect us. No one likes a fool.
Well said bob, that is the way to go. The most candid approach:)
Why should they be any different than the Big Corporations are Rich here??? At least they appreciate it!!! The Rich and Corporation expect it from us...
bob, Pakistani people do not love USA's money. This money actually goes into the pockets of their corrupt leaders. If USA wanted to help Pakistan and improve its iamge, it would have spent in developing their infrastructure. USA just made a nuclear deal with Pakistan's arch ival India. But expects Pakistan to not sign a nuclear treaty (power generation puposes) with China because it has not signed the Nuclear non proliferation treaty. India has not signed the treaty either. But somehow USA has double standards for pakistan and India, although Pakistan is USA' ally in this war. Can you explain to me how do you expect Pakistanis to love you for all thsi double standards?
U.S.A shuld fully help Pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because paistan has given many sacrifices for U.S.A!
Yes – September 11 is one of the great offerings of Pakistan!!!! YOu are an ingnoramus.
You Pakis hate America... check your facts and ask your neighbors... what sacrifice did you make; only when the taliban staretd bombing you, did you wake up; till then you were celebrating that taliban was attacking western targets.
What People are you talking to??? Sure it isn't us Americans!!!
FYI these sacrifices by Pakistani people started way back in 1980's when Pakistan became USA's ally in the cold war. Millions of Afghan immigrants crossed Pakistan-afghan borders, many are still there. After defeating Russians, USA left and Taliban came into power. The Talibans turned against Pakistani people when Pakistan become USA's ally in the war right after 9/11. Before that pakistan and Afghan governments were at peace with each other. Now they are doing suicide attacks in all the public places in Pakistan, hospitals, schools, market places. Now pakistanis are giving more sacifices and they are afraid that USA will again desert them.
If you were inside the Twin Towers @911 You would have been a sacrifice. US will never forget. What has your country sacrificed for US???You're takers, not givers.
Lets try new strategy, open Mosque at every corner in US incl. on location once stood WTC, change our soldiers dress to the traditional Arab one and carry Kuran instead of guns and ammunition. Let us build mosque every where around Pak-Afghan and specially incl. location on Bamiyan. Let us see what they feel for a change, I bet we will get all praise on Friday prayer and absolute (verbal) support. Are we prepared for this day?
Muslims have enough Mosques in Afghanistan and pakistan. How about opening schools over there? How about extending hand of frienship and trust towards a war torn country. This will cost much less money and lives than carrying guns and ammunition.
Who is going to protect these schools from demolition squads instigated by mullahs???
Lesson in sharia, kuran and hadith, anyway they are hardly employable outside unless we keep building mosque around:)
And train more such ignorant idiots, full of hatred towards west. Young Hafiz goaded by fresh training, chant through ho@rse voice "Death to Israel US and infidels". The cycle repeats through out Islamic crescent.
Umme Omar- some of our non-Moslem people in Canada & US are jobless, there's not enough $ for proper health care &.education. Don't expect non-Moslems to say yes to Moslem schools. Accept the US culture, if you don't, you are only out for your Moslemself. Don't be crafty & Don't exploit US people or play them for fools. Your destiny could be going back to your own country.Your conditioned mind isn't purified yet, you need to be multi-cultural & empathetic instead of having only narrow Moslem views.
What do you think the Tarriest are trying to do??? That is why We are there fighting them!!!
Hail our sneaky enemy hidden and visible ones. While we sincerely help Pakistan and various Islamic countries we do get regular reminders about "Death to Israel" "death to US" and "Death to infidels" in return for our charity. Need to teach our enemy the tru meaning of "ignominies". Looks like they are not taught that word in Madrasa.
Ok, no more aid. Lets have a deal, stop crossing into civilized world, harshest sharia punishment to those who violate from there.
Hard to comprehend the cane punishment, oh no the stoning for adultery, elimination of minority by either forced conversion. Or the civilized "time square" dude. We do get what civilized means to you.
Yes, Jack the ripper did not explain what "civilized" is, but he clearly said what "civilized is not.
That is coming mostly from the Racist in this Country and the Tarriest!!! Everyone else is cheering for us...
andrew lubin, i would like to see your evidence posted onto the internet to support your claim of presidents obama's hidden agenda towards the muslims. does this hidden agenda include the withdrawl of all U.S. troops from iraq next year and eventually afghanistan.
That is just a smoke string so He can take over all of the Middle East and Asia!!!
fund western military? July was the dealiest month for American troops in Afghanistan. Before that, June was the deadliest. Most Nato countries are withdrawing from Afghanistan. Now it is just our troops and Afghan and Pakistani people losing their lives in a war which is only breeding more enemies on both sidea. This is very costly in terms of funds also. Pakistani people do not get the money which the western countries give to their corrupt leaders. So, it is pretty much clear. Break this cycle of hatred and save our lives in Afghanistan and here in USA. Lets help the victims and show them the real side of Americans and win this war without losing more lives.
Right the CIA, American and English Military are dieing because they are sleeping right???
We will not win the war by being do-gooders or bleeding hearts. You will not win Moslem hearts by helping $ the Afgh or with Pak. flooding. Don't remotely& indirectly feed Terrorism. Some countries have different moral traits & world reputation. Some have a predisposition to violence, stealing, and cheating.The minds of all the world need to improve, A pschopathic society will not change regardless of how long you forgive or plead with them they use anyone however they can, have no conscience, are unable to repent. Pakistan has been rubbing shoulders with these guys.Hang out with the bad boys, the good boys don't want you anymore. Simple but true.Eventually sympathy runs out. Try another ploy.
The Americans and almost every western nation has done nothing but help Pakistan in the past! They are quickly becoming another Africa, breeding more and more each day when the cannot afford to feed the ones they have already! then stand around with their hands out looking for money!
The western nations need to fund their military's, not the militants!
We think it would be better to NOT fund the military. They get into too much trouble. There are better ways to spend money.
We are paying Their Military!!! Why do you think They are winning???
The war against terrorism and extremist cannot be won by violence. Violence can only generate more violence. The war in Afghanistan is not going to end anytime soon. We are losing money and mst importantly our troops. All we have gained is the number of our enemies in the region. Helping out flood victims is one step towards restoring peace. it might take many more. But atleast we are not losin our troops. There will be people like me who will appreciate this help. We need each other. This is not right wing or the left wing. it is the center where nobody wants to harbor hatred for the other side because there is no other side. We are peace loving people and we come from American and Afghanistan and Pakistan. God sent this flood to help us out. God is on our side. Be truthful and honest with ourselves and others.
You sure can't turn the other cheek!!!
All of this right-wing mumbo-jumbo is starting to get awfully old,so cut it out,please!!!!!
Yes it is a trade off with corrupt pakistan govt, but not to kill "innocent" but terrorists and those who provide them shelter. These tribal villages take collective decision when they harbor these terrorists, and they know what they're getting into. 50 yrs back, there would be heavy casualties and innocent civilians killed during war time. At least now, best effort is being taken to just root out these evil doers.
Coming to the relief of natural disaster victims and nations is something we in the military (I am retired USAF) do quite well. The ability to do so is a great by-product of our existing capabilities. Not only should we continue to act in this manner, but we should continue to do it whenever and wherever we can...Pakistan, Indonesia, Sudan, North Korea as far as I am concerned. I fail to see the logic of the people who scream "let those dirty $%#^$ take care of themselves." As a person who actually served the nation for 26 years, and not as a person who wears a cheap metal lapel pin and calls that "patriotism," I say we are doing the right thing.
Dear colJim1956... This is a very nice post.
After the devastating earthquake Americans were heroes. It faded away after having heard anti US preaching of militant Islam. So even if US helps Pakistan now, thankful memories will fade away and anti US spirit will prevail
Okay fine then, we won't help you at all. Your innocent women and children can die in the flood. I doubt the people being rescued care who is doing the rescuing.
Are Country is trying to stop the Tarriest not being Muslin!!! It seems know matter what we do are say the Muslin take it out of how it is meant... That is something we can't help!!! They should know by Our actions helping them it is said for Their own good!!!
If you give aid make sure all the money is being spent properly i mean watch the money or else the gov of pakistan will just steal majority of the money. thats how pakistan president is the richest pakistani. he was once called 10% man owning 10% of everything when he last was president.
This may not have happened if you had supported to fix pakistani democratic system and not try to make sure you have a leader that will listen to you by breaking the democratic system and supporting millitary dictators in the 70s and after. But what has been done has been done muslims dont trust your actions in their zone and now you have to gain their trust the hard way. We could say it was to defeat the soviet union but now you have to live with the consequence another example is iran which you should know by now.
Umme Omar,get over your ignorance,will you???
Daniel – 2, looks like you don't want to break this circle of hatred. Who r u with? Peaceful people or extremists?
President Clinton, Bush and Obama are Richer than the People!!! Does that make all but Bush a Thief???
Daniel2: Get rid of Your hate!!! The world would be better off that way... There is enough hate in this World with out You!!!
Like we did with the Mortgage Company here??? We only do that if it can help the People not the Government!!!
Don't feel bad the Racist hate all the People not just the Muslin!!!
Umme Omar- welcome to US-home of the free. I'm so glad to hear a Moslem womans voice out there. Tell other moslem women ALL, women in the world can be safe & free, you have more power as women than you think. Teach your sons to respect women when they're growing up. Don't listen to war lovers, men have more testosterone hormones,things usually work out better when family is run by women. Our future is in our children.
Why not issue a reminder of the Bin Laden reward (and other Al Qaeda operatives) instead of just sending a check?
The people of Pakistan 3 to 1 believe that the US is responsible for terrorist bombings in their country that are preformed by militant Pakistanis. I would like to think that this charity will help the US ‘s image in Pakistan, but am seriously doubtful that it will. Besides we need to reduce if not eliminate completely the money we send to these so called allied countries. They are rife with corruption and just use the money to fill their pockets. We need to help Americans first everyone else second – least of all a country that calls us friends out of one side of their mouth as they prompt violence against us from the other side.
I believe you are part of the problem. Because you are giving an impression that as if the pakistani people have stolen any money from american people or something. Look Pakistani people and American people both need each others' support, trust, goodwill and help to win the war against terrorism. This war can only be won by breaking the circle of hatred and mistrust. Pakistani people are the victim of both terrorism and corrupt leaders. You are blaming the victim. It is a theory which might work in India. but it does not work in USA. Read three cups of tea, building stones into schools, two books written by Greg Mortenson. American people have a big heart and so do the pakistanis and Afghans. I am asking my American people to read these books and help me stop this cycle of hatred. Who is with me on this?
Definitely most are not with you. Information flows freely in this country, and everyone slowly understands the "friendship". This kind of talk might have worked 10 yrs back, but now the true color shows. Every country, incl USA and their intel knew all along about pakistan's double game. But the government didnt have a choice as they needed to feed pakistan billions to keep the situation getting worse (like pakistan selling nukes to Iran, NorthKorea. We all know how they blackmailed by sending their scientist to Iran, sending the US cargo plane to N.Korea for arms deal. BTW, I am only quoting the findings by the american intelligence, so dont dismiss them as accusations). To fund them, the people had to kept in the dark and the media were still calling them "friends". But the govt knew well about all the double-game which came to light with the recent wikileaks.
So, instead of being an ambassador for getting more aid from US, why dont u try fighting the homegrown "terrorists and corrupt leaders" (your words) that victimize your citizens. A first step would be to provide where the billions you get thru aid go (for the poor OR to the terrorist outfits for training and arms). Do respond if you have an answer. You don't need a link to talk about terrorism that affects every part of the world. Being in this country, you should know that anyone is free to express their views. Dont suppress them as they do in military/dictatorship country, by saying "why r u here. what is your link, blah blah"
Is that what they told You??? Are is that what Fox told You??? I'm sure we like to hear where you get Your information???
Good to see US armed forces helping the poor and the needy.
Bravo US Armed Forces and the Politicians behind this aid package.
God bless you all.
It is to bad know one else helps us when we need it!!!
I think helping others is a good thing. But we should help those at home also. Myself as well as millions of others have lost everything due unemployent. For 2 years I have sent resumes everywhere, with only 2 interviews, no job. Being 60 years old may have hurt me, but I need a home to live in and food to eat just as much as those in Pakistan. But, while Congress give money to help those in Pakistan without worrying about the deficit, they feel that the unemployed are not worth helping because they might have to add to the deficit. There may be some who have abused the UE system, but the majority of us just cannot find a job with 6 people (at least) applying for every job. I just think that besides being known as a country that helps those aroung the world, we also need to be aware of all the people who have no work, no home, no food, and have lost every penny they had.
I guess Your talking about Bush and Cheney Right???
@ kathy ... at the time of katrina ... i was in Pakistan .. we gathered and managed a huge package of goods and clothes and sent it over here ... we .. none of us argued that a poor nation needs these things more ... http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/.element/img/3.0/1px.gif
Kathy- about deficit in our own country, unemployment, USA should look after their own first, I hear you. Canadians feel the same way. I don't agree with any foreign aide to Pak. US is going overboard $-wise, Pak. knows this but don't care about our people only theirs. Don't weaken and feel sorry for them. Their flooding scenario is a test of truth or consequences ,who will be the lucky winner$. They need to feed their own people with their own$ instead of other countries feeding them. If they have been feeding the Taliban, it's a judgement call on them via massive flooding.
Kathy, I dont live in USA. But I know it is really difficult there to live without a job as I have been there many times. .I pray and hope that the US government will pay more attention on this issue. Remember there is someone thinking about you from this corner.And my prayer will be answered you just have to believe it . when you look around the world economy on earth it is difficult to believe it happen. I look at all the resource god has in store for us. sounds funny ha..?But it is the truth. you are in my prayers !!!
Stand corrected Superman.... either way it's beyond reasonable.
Ok I'm not understanding something, I do see where we should help others, but we have yet to be able to help our own people here after disasters, Katrina, the Gulf.. being some of the examples.. AND we carry a deficit of 10 TRILLION dollars. Then we go pledge $10 million to a country that we have to fight tooth and nail to be an ally.... maybe it's just me but somewhere we have to draw the line and help our own first.
It's over 13 trillion, not to split hairs. http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Our debt is only 2.5 Trillion!!! The Rest Bush spent!!!
If the United Nation and Nato was doing what they are suppose to do... Instead of lying about Israel!!! We wouldn't have to do it...
We send them aid and they hate us, terrorist do nothing and they love them. We should really spend our money at home where it’s needed.
superman, you are all muscle ...grow some brain too if u can lol
Awww I thought Yakoubi finally came to his senses but that obviously didn't happen. He is still espousing illogical bull poo.
Like you,MaryM. I don't mind telling you that this war is obscene and I wish it would end.The sooner the better!!!
How come Pakistanis love those people who are killing their countymen. If those terrorists are anti american/europian/indian...then why they are killing Pakistanis every day through sucide bombing? It indicates that some :external powers" hired poor Pathans to conduct sucide bombing.
Pakistanis do not love these terrorists. These terrorists blow them up in market places, hospitals, schools, universities, even mosques. These terrorists are the enemies of Pakistanis and the Pakistanis know that very well.
are you kidding? Pakistanis are increasingly growing to hate the taliban. the taliban are vastly unpopluar, with less than 10% of people approving of them and only 2% supporting them in the war
The only ones that hate us are the Tarriest!!!
Sorry I forgot to put the D in there.
This is the true United States Arme Military Forces!
Of course we should help the Pakistanis when it comes to a humanitarian crisis like this, but otherwise we need to CUT EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR OF THEIR FUNDING. Pakistan is completely two-faced – providing a weak, token response against the Taliban and insurgents in western Pakistan, while secretly funneling money and weapons to them. And to Aamir Islam, you're joking right? United States aid is the only thing keeping Pakistan from becoming another failed state. Unfortunately, no one is Washington is willing to call their bluff.
Pakistan was already a failed state there is nothing to protect over there but corrupt politicians which have resulted in american influencing who is the leader of pakistan since the early 60s till present.
Is that why they are getting the Tarriest officers and Military??? It looks like they are winning to me and doing a good job at it too!!!
Like they want to hear the truth... They are to busy hating the United States and Israel!!!
I agree with u Mike. Pakistan are looking after their own self interests and most likely embedding & collaborating with Taliban terrorist groups. WE shouldn't give Pak.'s flood aide, it won't improve repoire with Pakistan, they're desperate & will use whoever they can to get $$$$. Being a bleeding heart is not wise. Pakistan has an upper & lower caste system. Women & children are abused in their country, also in male domineering Moslem countries & especially by barbaric Xtremists like Taliban. Leave them to their own demise.Sounds cruel to some but if you help them they will think you a fool.
Helping other nations in need is a good thing to do. And have some respect when talking about the country that is the lifeline of your soldiers in Afghanistan. What would you do without Pakistan's help? Even the water your soldiers are drinking is shipped via Pakistan. You need Pakistan more than Pakistan needs you. Your soldiers in Afghanistan know that in the event of any major emergency the only country that could help them in that area is Pakistan assuming your soldiers would not want to cross into Iran.
Aamir Islam,will you wise up??? You know better than that.
You're getting sadder and sadder, bud.
A lot He says makes sense!!! It is to bad you don't realize it...
India would help. They're dying to unload a nuke on their Muslim neighbors. Also, Pakistan needs the US mighty dollar more than we will ever need Pakistan. Pakistan helps us because they want our money and our aid.
My dear, nothing is free in this world, Pakistan help you in Afghanistan and you have to pay for services.
"Nothing is free" Nadeem. It is one thing to be a neutral country and say US pays money for the services/support it gets from Pakistan. It is totally different when Pakistan instigates violence by supporting taliban terrorists (ISI hand in every attack) on one side, and gets money on the other side for the so-called support for US. With no brain-power and hard-work, Pakistan has found they are only good for exporting terror and the only way for them to make money and survive.
India would never use their nukes first. That too on a land historically linked with India.
Indians should stay out of this debate because all they can do is add fuel to the fire. First of all, yesterday 6 people died in Indian occuied Kashmir because India does not want to grant them freedom. You should try to solve that problem first. Secondly why r u meddlin in Afghanistan when you don't share your borders with them.
@Umme Omer, those Indians RAW Agents are enjoying their vacation in war torn Afghanistan. They are not planning any suicide attacks in Pakistan, they are not helping separatist movement in south west of Pakistan. Western world and India are blaming Pakistan for spreading terrorism in the world, don't they see we ourself are the victim of terrorism. We are suffering from suicide bombing everyday, we are facing 9/11 and 11/26 everyday.
Nadeem I agree with you. Indians are blaming Pakistan for exporting terrorism. Although the peaceful kashmir freedom fighters dont resort to violence or suicide bombing. All they do is close their shops and burn Indians flags and demonstrate peacefully. Yet they keep losing lives. they don't want to go to Pakistan. They just want an independent Kashmir. But India does not pay heed. They need to resolve this issue before meddling in Afghanistan. They don't like this trust taking place btween Pakisan and America. So they come to these message boards and use names like 'truthhurts, secular, reality and blah blah to make it look like Americans spewing hatred against Muslims. I live in USA. I work with them and I know their work ethics and moral values. They heard about the flood and they want to help. They come here and all they read is Indians yapping 'Pakistanis are terrorst and terrorists camps' Why? Victims are victims. they are human beings and they need help. And we also need to build this trust.
@UmmeOmar – I am not the kind who tries to make it look like Americans who spew hatred against muslims. The events happening around the world speak for themselves, and I will leave the people to judge for themselves. And I have worked with the same folks as you do. Messageboards sometime gets abused by both sides, so dont try to make it look like its one-sided. We are here to debate, not throw senseless arguments like "o u dont share the border, what is the link blah blah". u want the link, YOU (Pakistan) are the link between Afghanistan and India. You shuffle your terrorist outfits between afghan and india border (not to mention the terrorism within Pakistan). THAT IS THE LINK.
Now coming to the age-old Kashmir problem, I am not going to talk like the rest saying "it belongs to india, ....". Every country at some point or other had uprising/revolution (whatever u call it) for independence and it is a uphill battle. India/Pakistan did not get their freedom in a day without losing a life. And Pakistan didnt say to East Pakistan, "o u want freedom, u can have it, lets call it Bangladesh, cheers". There was a war over it. I am not here to say whether they should have their independence OR they are part of India. Justified or not, it is their struggle, and it would be called a "struggle" as long as" they" fight for it. Once they put the terrorists in the mix, you cant blame anyone if the separatists are branded "terrorists".
I look the people suffering due to floods as innocent humans (who have no or little say in what their corrupt govt/military) and not with a narrow view of "pakistanis". My heart goes out for the poor and the innocent affected by this natural disaster. As for the 6 people who died in police shooting, there should be an investigation but that never happens in any country pakistan or india. In war torn areas, atrocities happen and justice is rare when military has all the power. Thats the reality.
well to make things simple for you. Pakistan and US has been doing business for a very time, and every time Pakistan had to bare losses because US would simply leave the mess for Pakistan to clean and deal with. This time US is not going anywhere unless it finishs what it started.
Pakistan is not a Rich Country!!! So of course they need help paying for Their fight!!! What I don't understand is why the Other Countries in the Would paying for it instead of Us??? Isn't it enough we are paying for the other 2 wars???
Pakistan is not as Rich as the United States and other Countries in the World!!! So why should they have to pay for a War that they are doing to save the World from Tarriest???
There you go again,Phunnie boy,misspelling terrorist as tarriest and don't listen to the ignorance of MaryM.
aamir.....if we werent there, we wouldnt need them...think before you speak of needs. We help more countries than any other in the world! Period. As humanitarians. We are always looking to be the most ethical and trustworthy as diverse individuals.
Yup u help lot of countries????????,How??
usa STEALS TRILLIONS.... and help? with pennies.... Haliburton Profits????
you also NEVER see a group of extremists in our country (US) that consistently carry AK 47 weapons, and ignite road side bombs, etc.....suicide bombings, etc....
What do you call Our Malissia??? They carry arms and aren't part of Our Military are Police!!!
yer BECAUSE ALL YOUR TERRORISTS ARE TERRORISING INNOCENTS ABROAD...IRAQ,AFGAN ,PAKISTAN ,PHILLIPINES,
PALASTINE, YOU NAME IT,
MORE MUSLIM LIES.
So that's why US will help with flood aide, incase they have to go to Pak for safety & water supply. The Taliban are there in Pak too. The flooding isn't a blessing for outcomings of peace, sounds like a judgement on Pak for embedding Taliban. Wait to see the outcome, the just shall overcome these lies & propaganda. The whole world is watching this scenario.
YER REMEMBER KATRINA MATE.....
Why are we helping these Pakistani clowns again? Why won't the other muslim countries get off their a55es and help their own? Is this not a practice in islam, the religion of so called peace?
I was thinking the same thing. None of them would ever dream to help us in a natural disaster. We will help them and then they will turn around and attack our troops.
You got that right,MaryM !!!
who do you by THEY? are you saying the people of Pakistan will attack US Army? well they are over 17 million, thats a large number and why would they attack US Army while its in Afghanistan. People in Pakistan do not hate americans, what they hate is what people inside White House and Pentagon have been doing, and not returning the favors like they were suppose to, its not about 9/11 for them, this goes back to 60s and history has all the answers for you
agree! we helped them in the past, they still dont like us, we keep helping them, they still dont like us. I am for humanitairian aid, but this is ridiculous. How many times are we to help them, when they just lose interest in US because our aid slows down!!?? This is aid/courtesy!! They should feel lucky. We would act, say and communicate that we were so lucky to have aid like that on a disaster. I'm utterly discusted with that show of neglect and infaithfulness in US!
It is not all Muslin that hate us!!! Just the tarriest...
At least learn to spell,Phunnie boy! It's terrorist,not tarriest!!!!!!
Don't worry Juan, all Muslims coutries are already helping them. American Muslims are contributing through Islamic relief and Helping hands. But it is Americans who need to help them so that this war can be won by winning the hearts and not by losing our troops. But why I am talking to you? You are a war lover right?
WE WILL WIN THEIR HEARTS? HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHA!
Is it being a war lover if you want the People to take care of themselves and get rid of the Tarriest???
Because they are to busy killing each other and Israeli!!!
Nobody remembers the good things the u.s does
That's because they were outweighed by the evil things we did,such as start a senseless war with Iraq back in 2003.
Bubba your ignorance is highlighted by your constant inability to spell.
MaryM,I find you ignorance to be quite appalling as well as your love for this obnoxious war.Wise up,please!
Like having a 9/11 "Burn a Koran" day.
I don't,Phunnie boy!!!!!
Seductive video, Westerners know how terrible you treat your moslem women. GONG your ploys aren't working,only your gonads.
Other countries remember good things US has done for them. Some countries remember the bad things too. Careful not to blow your own horn. You sound humble, good place to be at. All have fallen short. It is strength to admit your own faults.
I still think they need more schools there so that ignorance of heaven being a priority by killing, hatred and jealousy fades away.
I problem is the schools there teach hate!!!
You again,Phunnie boy.I guess that its useless to ask you to quit usurping my name.I guess that you want me to look just stupid,don't you???
The floods could aid the coalition anti-terror effort as terrorist training camps are washed away.
Your comment here was very sick and uncalled for,Robert.You put me to shame!
Are maybe GOD is telling the Tarriest to quit killing innocent People!!!
I guess that Barack Obama's riding high as these floods give our military a big propaganda boost.Anything to make NATO look good!!!
Yes, because improving our image overseas and trying to help people view us in a better light is a bad thing, Tom.
Zerk, terrerist ? Really ? If you can't even spell the word, please do not provide your ignorant point of view on the subject.
ARE YOU STUPID? there is nothing we could ever do to change the way these A55clowns feel about us. WE ARE INFIDELS! they have been taught since birth that we are their enemy. when they start school (saudi funded wahhabi maddrassa) they are taught that it is their duty to kill us, to fight in jahad, and to give their life for allah(satan). WHERE IS THE AID FROM THE ARAB AND MOSLEM WORLD? just let them all die. then we won't have to worry about them on the battlefield.
pakistani people hate terrorism thats why they are going to targetted!!!!!!!!
This is how you kill Insurgency, not by guns and bombs but mind changing efforts to sway the populace. Every Terrorist you kill one or two relative join in their cause, every family helped in time of need removes more potential recruits from the terrorists warmachine.
What could be worse than the mess Bush Jr left us with the other Countries??? at least with Obama we are starting to get Our respect back!!!
Tom Posey, I am an American Muslim and I agree with you. This flood is a blessing in disguise. Two people who needed each other's support and good will to combat terrorism, will come together. Pakistanis have sacrificed their lives and property in this war. They should see that the americans are standing by them in their time of need.
This flood is Mother Nature's birthday gift to Barack Obama.Now he can use it to make a case for his obscene war,Umme Omar!!!
Andrew Lubin, this was actually Bush's war and Obama is trying his best to end it. But he is all alone and I feel so much for him. And yeah I know you don't like him because you think he is a closet-Muslim. He is not a Muslim but he is a good guy. He might not be even here in the 2nd term. But I think that will be OK. He will do much better outside whitehouse.
What do you mean by closet Muslim,Umme Omar? Barack Obama is at war with them as he hopes to weaken Islam and fullfill his hidden agenda over there.
Highly doubt he is at war with anyone...to put it correctly, US administration is at war against Islam. And we all know who runs the admin here.
Who is the terrorist and who is the good guy, its all a matter of perspective.
For learned folks like the dude above me, grandpa Orwell described the mental state of the likes of you way back when he wrote
war is peace
freedom is slaver
ignorance is strength
This is not Bush's war. This is Bin Laden's war. if he didn't want Americans over there, he should not have killed 3,000 Westerners. You reap what you sow.
Ya right; you Pakis gave us September 11
Pakistan had nothing to do with 9/11. most of them were Saudees. I wonder why USA didnt attack Saudees ? Ohh year right. They were already in bed wtih Bush and giving them alot of oil money so what attack them.
I disagree with u. US should spend $ here to educate people like u about our perspective of your disfunctional beliefs. Study all religions, don't settle for what you are conditioned to believe. Flood relief is humanitarian but should be done wisely , Taliban Terrorists are alsoin Pak., there's a hidden agenda,conflict of interest by giving them flood aide, US won't get brownie points, Pakistani's need to oust these terrorists 1st. Never reward wicked behaviour or be a partaker.
I'm American, and I would not and will never, stand with muslims. So speak for yourself.
funny how this comes in 2 days after the AP releases reports that the Pakistanis are allowing the Turks to shoot at us. Education, folks...and never believe what you read.
Yes, You are an IDIOT!
Of course they had nothing to do with ...! The tarriest was trained in Afghanistan not Pakistan!!! Why do you think we are fighting in Afghanistan and the Pakistan are fighting them there!!!
This is to Zerk in response to the "Terrerist" comment. Have you ever lived in Afghanistan, Pakistan, or any other Muslim country? Do you have Muslim friends, relatives, or associates? I won't prejudge you and answer no to any of those questions. What I will ask it that you not prejudge/stereotype an entire nation. I'm serving in Afghanistan for a year tour, working side by side with Afghanistan military members and civilians. The culture in a lot of ways has been more hospitable than many of the cities and communities that I've lived in back in the US. They treat us like family here, they greet us with warm smiles, hugs, and hand shakes. How often do you see that in a work center in the states? In closing think of this... Until you have lived, worked, and shared the same environment about a culture. Keep your misinformed comments and ignorance to yourself. It's comments like that, that keep us in this hot climate trying to patch up our human relations. Help the situation, open your heart and eyes, not your mouth.
USAF MENTOR in Afghanistan
People like you should always come forward and share your real life experience with muslims... otherwise the majority of people who comment here are influenced by media stories which are biased in many ways. They are unable to understand that anti-Muslim sentiemnts will not help America in anyway. Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.
I am so happy to read your thoughts...God bless you! If only people on both sides can be more open and accepting ..without judging.. But the forces that be have used differences to separate us and incite hate effectively.. it will take some serious commitment and people like yourself.. to make the world a better, less violent, place.
Don't You know that Obama caused the flood in the first place just for that reason!!!
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