April 14th, 2010
05:15 PM ET

Holder: No need to read Miranda rights to bin Laden if captured

WASHINGTON - Attorney General Eric Holder said Wednesday there would be no need to read Miranda rights to Osama bin Laden if the al Qaeda leader were captured.

Holder told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that enough evidence exists against bin Laden to convict him in a trial, so that advising him of his rights to protect the legal admissibility of subsequent interrogation was unnecessary.

Here is a transcript of the exchange:
Holder: With regard to Bin Laden, there would be no need to give bin Laden Miranda warnings, and if I was not clear there, I meant to be. If he were captured I cannot foresee any reason why

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama: But Mr. Holder, your presumption is in your own report that they would be tried in civilian courts. Why wouldn't you give Miranda warnings? What reason is there not to do so, unless you're going to try them in military commissions?

Holder: The concern with Miranda warnings is only whether or not the information you get from that person might be excluded. We have sufficient information, statements from bin Laden, so that there is no reason to Mirandize him at all.

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  1. FrankieFilm

    читаю Вас и понимаю, что круче не напишу)

    April 29, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Sysadmin4ik

    как же все-таки не хватает врмени даже на то чтобы прочитать что-то интересное((

    April 29, 2010 at 8:18 am | Report abuse |
  3. Angel

    We have to go after the true criminals that committed the terrorist attacks on 911. Just follow the money trails. Who profited from the attacks? Who had the power to cover it up? Either someone lied to you OR you are lying to your selves.

    April 20, 2010 at 7:15 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Sean

    Gotta catch him first.

    April 20, 2010 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
  5. Richard

    To add one more thing, kind of an echo of #89, NS's comments. I want a system of justice that works for all criminals, big and small. If the system is so broke that we have to take special cases out of our system of justice, then what makes us think that it will work for the perhaps smaller, but certainly more common types of crimes within our communities. Bin Laden is a criminal because he broke the laws of our country, by among other things, conspiring to commit the murders of U.S. Citizens. He is just a criminal, and should be treated as one and held to answer for the crimes of which he is accused.

    April 20, 2010 at 7:54 am | Report abuse |
  6. Richard

    Well, if I were to get my hands on him and arrest him, and if the circumstances allowed me to arrest him alive without significant risks to anyone, then I see no reason to not read him his Miranda warnings. The AG is certainly right in that enough evidence exists that they don't need any additional evidence that a post arrest statement or confession might bring, but I've never heard a prosecutor complain about having too much evidence.

    April 20, 2010 at 7:42 am | Report abuse |
  7. FireDawg

    Chances are he's already dead in a ditch somewhere, but if he is alive the only thing that should be read to this man is the little writing on the back of that nato round – 5.56.

    April 19, 2010 at 10:45 pm | Report abuse |
  8. RK

    Will some one in authority please arrest that idiot Holder on treason charges and give him his Maranda rights. He'll probably get off any way because on an insanity plea.

    April 19, 2010 at 3:30 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Russ d

    Don't you think that if we really wanted to catch him, we would have by now? If we weren't such a politically correct (and cowardly) society, we would have had demonstrations like the 70's, and this would have been over with.

    April 19, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Larry K

    Do they really think they will capture him alive??? The odds are better that he will die of old age!!!

    April 19, 2010 at 10:15 am | Report abuse |
  11. NS

    National governments should seek justice, not revenge. That I hope is the message people would get from this. Its understandable if the readers want him dead but if he had harmed my family or friends, I would want him to stand trial and be judged for all the crimes he has committed. I have enough faith in justice even if there is a possibility of failure.

    April 19, 2010 at 9:13 am | Report abuse |
  12. PATRICIA IRENE

    This all reads like hypothetical ho-hum.

    April 19, 2010 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
  13. Angel

    Osama Bin Ladin has not been officially charged with any crime, so there is no need to read him his rights. The U.S. has not caught him becouse they are not Officially looking for him.

    April 18, 2010 at 10:21 pm | Report abuse |
  14. LLB

    So...if we don't allow him his "Miranda" rights, what does that make us?

    April 18, 2010 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  15. nick

    It doesn't matter. Miranda doesn't mean that anything he says can't be used. If he said it before, it's admissible. He bragged about 9/11. If they catch him alive, he is toast in court. That said, the government does not want to catch him. They want endless war to keep the military industries functioning at full capacity. They and prisons are our only growth industry.

    April 18, 2010 at 3:49 pm | Report abuse |
  16. Paul

    If you intend to try Bin Laden in domestic courts and fail to Mirandize him, some sharp attorney will spot a legal loop-hole and BL will walk. Take 30 seconds, do it thoroughly and don't leave any gaps. Be sure to hold the trial in a State where 'Old Sparky" is still the best seat in the house.

    April 18, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  17. JOSH LEE

    im from a town that had an 8 hour stand off with troy police..that had to call bomb and swat teams.....for at first claimed an 16 yr old had a knife and explosives...wich turned out it was a 67 yr old man armed with knifes at his own neck.the local police never notified nor bom squad evacuated the area properly....this person was a street right behind me......thats my life and my family lives exactly in the area not to mention a few of my friends .local poolice were rude to me when i was trying to figure whatwas going on....to me the local police were scared to go in..as a regylar civillian in this town i was going to go do it myself. 16 or 60 dont need to make threats with a bomb.as this was @ a trailer i mind you not.wasted time and money........wannah talk bout it?

    April 17, 2010 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  18. i'll get it!

    i would like to ask bin laden, bush sr. &jr. ex presidents, former and probably the best ex (my opinion) clinton to dinner at my house. not because of the things we would all want to ask each of them, and not because of what we would do. but because we all (americans) wish to know the truth. not what is reported. not what is discussed in and out of the legislature. just to ask each of them one thing (and hope we would get this from them) – why these events happened going all the way back to before we knew it was time and too late to stop what cannot change now. maybe each of them would tell us over my wifes fried chicken, walmart veggies and the best mashed red potatoes i've ever had (and an endless supply of sweet tea ) just when and how this turned wrong. perhaps a "no pointing fingers" rule will be applied to regular table manners because aren't they all at fault? honestly, the truth will (hopefully) make us all at least understand the events. understanding may not fix our losses, bitterness, and anger at ALL sides all the way back. but there is comfort in speaking and hearing the truth. thank you for your time. p.s. i would hope they all like banana cream pie (from scratch!) for desert!

    April 17, 2010 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  19. monasterymonkey

    Crucifixion would be a just reward!

    April 17, 2010 at 12:14 am | Report abuse |
  20. john

    Can we just contract out the hunt? It would have saved 1,000s of service members.

    If the bounty were real, and in cash, tax free, and it was a reality TV special too, Come on do you think we'd not nail him.

    All the military has to do is give transport. I'd make it a lottery with the names of 1-2 platoons of folks winners, full kit and transport made available, then the hunt begins. Hell, the nuts in Michigan seem eager, send over a c-17 load of them if they have the *&^% to go.

    Then we can get on with health, education, and real development.

    April 17, 2010 at 12:02 am | Report abuse |
  21. Carlos

    I think that if at any point any of our people are in sight and have a shot take it. He doesn't deserve to have a trail in the US or anywhere else. He is a monster that misunderstands his religion. Pablo escabar was killed on sight and bin laden is a much bigger threat then pablo ever was.

    April 16, 2010 at 9:35 pm | Report abuse |
  22. Jenn

    I'm angry with the man too, and consider him the worst kind of coward, but I object to the idea that we should lower ourselves to his level. Any American is a better human being than this terrorist, so let's behave as if we were civilized and give Bin Laden all the rights accorded by our Constitution to those who have committed acts of atrocity.

    April 16, 2010 at 7:09 pm | Report abuse |
  23. rick

    we would have had him already, if bush didn't attack iraq instead. that full military build was for bin laden not saddam he didn't attack us.someone wanted to flex muscles you think!!!!

    April 16, 2010 at 7:04 pm | Report abuse |
  24. DntBrnDPig

    They should capture him alive. Then take him around to all 'big' cities and put him in medieval stockades. Auction off on ebay the right to hit him 3 times with those yellow wiffle ball bats. Use that money to pay off the national debt, military benefits, 9/11 families/workers.

    Two problems solved and people get to vent their frustrations for the right price.

    I mean how much damage could a wiffle ball bat do? Of course there would have to be Doctors on hand that could make sure he lasted long enough.

    Or just make it a flat $10 fee and see how long he lasts.

    April 16, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Ron

    Rights? Why do we worry about pigs like him having rights? Just kill him, don't complicate things with silly nonsense.

    April 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  26. John Brady

    Bin Laden is a civilian, not the grand leader of some military force. He is a criminal, plain and simple. Our legal system is more than capable of convicting him the same way we convicted Timothy McVey. Our prision systems are more than capable of housing him until his execution, in fact I'd like him to see exactly how vicious the Crypts and Bloods can be. Let him be someones girlfriend for a few years in an American prision.

    April 16, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  27. S. Studenberg

    This has to be a joke. Do we have to pay these morons to theorize on Mirandising Ossama Ben Linen, or can we please solve a few more pressing problems the population is facing.

    April 16, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
  28. Chris

    being Mirandized has nothing to do with citizenship – it has to do with the location of the crimes. So it could go either way. We know that his biggest crime took place in NYC & DC, then against US embassies in Africa, and the USS Cole. So I think the status of his "miranda rights" is entirely dependent on "who catches him" If he's arrested by the military he will be treated as an enemy combatant (USS Cole attacks). If he's caught in a combat type operation on a battlefield of sorts then it's an enemy combatant situation.If he's caught by our allies then we will probably never get our crack at him because he'll be tried in a Pakistani/Saudi/Afghan setting.

    IF he gets caught INSIDE the US (including embassies or other "property" of the US government) then he would go through the criminal system just like any other mass murdering turd – Dohmer, Bundy, McVeigh. In this case he would conceivably be Mirandized, however as Holder noted, it wouldn't matter if he was or wasn't. There is enough evidence out there to prosecute him without him "talking" and we could still interrogate him for info on other people whether or not he was or wasn't mirandized

    April 16, 2010 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  29. Jamie

    Our pledge to allegiance says justice for all. ALL. Not just people we like, not just cititzens. ALL. Our constitution says due process is required. That is what makes us a nation of law. Miranda is part of due process. Torture and/or summary execution are not part of due process. Bin Laden is much hated in our country, but still a human being. However horrible a person is or however horrible their crime, we have to rise above our emotions. It is very hard, but that is what will make America a leader in human rights and justice. That is what will make America great.

    April 16, 2010 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  30. YADPOI

    Hello people, The ONLY people entitled to the Miranda Rights are U.S. Citizens, not foriegn born terrorist. get a grip.

    April 16, 2010 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  31. Charlie

    The answer to the problem of trying Osama Bin Laden is for the military to shoot him if they find him. He is an enemy combatant and should be treated as such.
    However, once you bring him into the civilian trial court system, then he, like any other criminal, are entitles to the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights, which refer to "persons", NOT "citizens"

    April 16, 2010 at 9:30 am | Report abuse |
  32. Bubba

    Just waterboard Dick Cheney until he gives up the location of the safehouse?

    April 16, 2010 at 9:27 am | Report abuse |
  33. david

    Roy Bean would be the perfect judge for Bin Laden

    Judge Bean: "Hang Him!"

    Cowboy: " ain't ya suppose to try'em first ?"

    Judge Bean: " Ok will try'em, then we'll hang'em"

    April 16, 2010 at 8:23 am | Report abuse |
  34. Rusty

    The perfect crime, and then they blamed it on the monster they themselves had created,,,,,they know they could NEVER prove Bin Laden did 911, that is WHY they have NEVER charged him with ANYTHING connected to 911,,,,,Why is it that prosecutors have failed to remember how the system is supposed to work? they have to PROVE someone guilty,,,innocent until proven guilty,,,,If they shoot him on the spot they have proven NOTHING,,,,,,Follow the money it will ALWAYS lead to the source of the truth,,,,,the truth being in this case,,,,our government had NO PROOF when they made their accusations,,,,and those accusations have led to the wars which are funneling LOBBY DOLLARS to every member of BOTH parties to insure that those wars don't stop,,,,NEITHER WAR is about defending America,,,they are BOTH political invasions based on lies,,,,,Just remember WHO created Osama Bin Laden in the first place,,,,OUR OWN GOVERNMENT,,and the CIA.

    April 16, 2010 at 7:52 am | Report abuse |
  35. Chris Arancibia

    Mr Holder You are on crack, you are stupidest man alive, if I had the chance to catch osama I would choke him to death, then have a party.

    April 16, 2010 at 4:42 am | Report abuse |
  36. davonskevort

    WHATS UP WITH THIS WHOLE IDEA OF CAPTURE AND TRIAL... THE GUY IS AN ENEMY... YOU KILL THE ENEMY... HE GETS CAPTURED... ACCIDENTS HAPPEN... ONE CHEAP BULLET SOLVES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF DRAMA... SAVE MONEY USE BULLET. AGAIN SAVE MONEY... USE BULLET.

    April 16, 2010 at 4:13 am | Report abuse |
  37. John

    No Miranda rights for scum like Bin Laden. He should be executed on the spot. Too bad he's most likely dead. If he is alive, there's not much chance he'll let us capture him alive. The coward will kill himself.

    April 16, 2010 at 3:37 am | Report abuse |
  38. New Zealand Kiwi

    So who are the real terroists. Americans?

    April 16, 2010 at 1:27 am | Report abuse |
  39. RJSAM4

    The US Govt doesn't want him alive, he knows too much! Remember JFK, and the "coverup? If recovered (dead or alive). Tie hime to a stake, with a pack of HUNGERY DOGS/or WILD PIGS. The same one any more of the muslim dogs that want to do harm to US citizians. Treat them the same as the would do us......

    April 16, 2010 at 12:41 am | Report abuse |
  40. Simon

    American honor demands he be taken, tried fairly and hopefully convicted. To murder him would make the sacrifices of all the brave American men and women moot. If you do not understand this line of reasoning, then you are ignorant of what it means to be an American.

    April 15, 2010 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
  41. Durl

    Over-crowded prisons???? hmm,, release prisoners in afghanistan and let them die for our country trying to find someone that is probably hiding in NYC or DC!!!!

    April 15, 2010 at 11:30 pm | Report abuse |
  42. lneman

    Osama Bin Laden is not going to be taken alive for a number of reasons.
    He has been living and fighting in this area for about 30 years. It all started when he was our ally against the Soviet Union when Reagen and Kissenger were trying to throw the Soviets out of Afghanistan. They had some crazy idea that this would somehow hurt the Russians, but history shows this had nothing to do with the fall of Comunism. If they had not done this Bin Laden and the Taliban would have never existed because Islam would never have come to power. We taught Bin Laden all he knows about fighting in this area. We can always hope a lucky shot gets him but talking about Miranda warnings is is a waste of time.

    April 15, 2010 at 11:00 pm | Report abuse |
  43. MICHAEL RAE

    America doesnt have no trouble putting the black man in the penitentiary, so what the problem putting bin and his cohorts in the penitentiary?

    April 15, 2010 at 10:20 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Big Al

    I thought Miranda rights only applied on American soil. Oh wait, Osama is probably on American soil right now since we continue to look in all the wrong places for him it seems.

    April 15, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Ben

    Nice to give Osama bin Laden our American Rights...Thanks Democrats!

    April 15, 2010 at 9:42 pm | Report abuse |
  46. mindy abraham

    Two words-Ebola experiment

    April 15, 2010 at 9:13 pm | Report abuse |
  47. derek

    stop milking it a.g we get it. no mirandan rite to the enemies of the states. now impress me...show me bin ladin dead body and i will proclaim u an american hero mr. eric holder.

    April 15, 2010 at 9:04 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Jesse

    We have an old saying here in Texas that goes way back. Give the SOB a fair trial and then hang him.

    Jesse in Texas

    April 15, 2010 at 8:43 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Mary

    Very hypothetical people. IF we ever catch him, we should just do by the book. No games. Attorney General Holder should be worrying about where the trial would be taking place.

    April 15, 2010 at 7:02 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Melbourne, Florida

    Forget Miranda in his case...those rights are for Americans...not terrorists....and shooting Bin Laden would be a mistake. Being killed by "infidels" would make him a martyr in the eyes of Islam giving more reason for his followers to fight on. It's essential he be captured, put on trial, and, when found guilty of all charges, executed in such a manner that would disgrace him in the eyes of Allah ... only then will he not be allowed into "paradise" and his name no longer spoken by anyone.

    Too bad it's not "legal", but the best way to disgrace him would be to dip a few bullets in pig blood and execute him via firing squad. Make sure others of his kind see EXACTLY how he was executed. That will get the message across to other terrorists .... forget about paradise..they won't make it there.

    April 15, 2010 at 6:49 pm | Report abuse |
  51. wombatty

    Let's catch him 1st, then worry about the details.

    April 15, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
  52. zotquix

    There are some pretty good reasons to capture him alive, if we can manage it. Mainly, intelligence on AQ activities. Also, making him into a martyr would make him happy. Let him sit in the worst prison available while he slowly rots into nothing.

    April 15, 2010 at 5:33 pm | Report abuse |
  53. chessyjames

    What are you afraid of? Read him his rights, give him a fair trial, and then execute him.

    April 15, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Charles

    It's amazing to me how cowardly this country has become. Bin Laden has clearly won. We are so frightened of terrorists now that we can't possibly uphold the Constitution anymore. We're so cowardly that the idea of a reading Bin Laden his Miranda rights opens just that tiny crack of "maybe some lawyer will get him off" that we run in terror because we're too chicken to abide by our own laws. It's easy to say "he's a terrorist" or "I know he's guilty" and then we start tossing out what makes us so much better than them: the rule of law, the idea of rights that apply to everyone, no matter how evil and despicable, the idea that torture is wrong, and the idea that everyone get's their day in court, be they a terrorist or some American citizen who has murdered a child. Sadly, we shiver in terror in our homes that they bad guys will attack again. We send soldiers to die by the thousands, we toss out basic rights, and we grovel in the mud. After Pearl Harbor, our President said "the only thing we have to fear is fear itself". After 9/11 our President and the right wing said "Be afraid, be very afraid". Bin Laden timed it well and he has clearly won.

    April 15, 2010 at 4:13 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Greg

    Eliminating Bin Laden will not stop terrorism. Keeping him alive and pretending to look for him while we round up his minions makes much more sense. If we had captured him within the first week, most Americans would have called for an end to the war a long time ago. As for Bin Laden not allowing himself to be taken alive, Saddam said the same thing. We found him hiding and cowering in a hold. He had a gun and did not fight back or take his own life. I say that if they want to die martyrs, and meet virgins afterwards, we should expedite the process. Terrorism will only end when the majority take control and breed new generations of peace-loving children that do not have a twisted interpretation of historic religous doctrine. Unfortunately, even the older generations that try to convince the young of their errors in interpretation can't stand up to terrorists with guns that like making up their own rules. They have to want to take back their country.

    April 15, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  56. Bryan

    Any time the police arrest you, they think they have enough evidence to convict you. But they still have to read you your Miranda rights. I don't see the down side of discussing this before hand or in reading him his rights. What's the down side??

    And if the cops were sure you'd committed a crime, would you want them to not read you your rights or ignore your rights because they "were pretty sure you were guilty?" No thank you to that kind of a world. Read him his rights, play this fairly and by the book and the rules. Show the terrorists who we REALLY are. A fair people.

    April 15, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  57. kensga

    What is an enemy combantant? I've never understood this term, has it been around for decades and I've missed it?

    April 15, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Report abuse |
  58. Shirleyo

    "Miranda rights?!?" You've got to be kidding. The man should be obliterated on sight.

    April 15, 2010 at 3:17 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Warner

    Some of the comments are pretty short-sighted. Sure, kill him – then what? Does that provide any useful intelligence. Al Qaeda would probably exist regardless of whether he is alive or dead, so it would seem that capturing him and extracting as much information about the rest of the organization as possible should be the goal. I don't see that revenge, aside from imprisonment would do anything except make him a martyr.

    April 15, 2010 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Irfan Haqqee

    They would not try to catch him alive. To US administration he is better dead than alive. If caught alive and tried, he would splill beans on what relationship he had with US Government in the past. People with short memory should know that he was your ally against Soviets in cold war just like Saddam who fought proxy war against Iran. Just like Noriega who aided arms shipment to Contras against Nicaraguan socialist government.

    April 15, 2010 at 2:56 pm | Report abuse |
  61. Frank Montalvo

    Chapo Guzman don't need a job. He's probably in Spanish Harlem drawing welfare checks!!!

    April 15, 2010 at 2:26 pm | Report abuse |
  62. Frank Montalvo

    Osama Bin Laden has been dead for a while or he is dressing as a woman. Amdinejad, claims that homosexualism does't exist in Islam, yet. I was in OIF and OEF where kids and beast give them more satisfaction than woman. But for their cuture, it isn't bad. They call it something else (man love thursday's) The poor woman are just a baby producing VAGINA (girls are worthless) Where boys walk in front with thir fathers and woman behind like dogs. In Afghanistan, woman do all the work, including keeping Heroin fileds, child bearing and all labor...and the men do nothing, But have fun with little kids...You don't have to believe. God already knows!!! I'm not a lefty nor a righty, just a spic who loves our Constitution and despise POLITICIANS or profesional lawyers or liars, take your pick. On the other hand, like my liberties and our Capitalist values, wher if you work hard enough, it pays. By the way, there most be a liberal who knows it all. just came from NJ recently and the people above and below my family happened to be illegals on welfare. Can I dislike that or can I rather choose to spend that money on education???

    April 15, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Subs

    Bin laden would be dead either way. The millions of people affected by his action in NYC. Try him in NY, and he wont' get off the island, and if he tries, a civilian would probably kill him. No?

    As for finding him. who wants to create a 5 man team and go hunt him in afghanistan / pakistan. If i recall its 25 million? we'll split it 5 ways! More money than most people make in a life time. Get rich or die tryin. HAHAHA

    kidding, i have complete faith the US will find this bastard!

    April 15, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  64. Blogson

    The entire situation is hypothetical. Before any legalities are applied bin Laden has to be caught. So far the U.S./NATO have tried to conquer the entire country of Afghanistan in order to capture him and have not succeeded in doing either. Much more American/NATO/Afghan blood has been shed than people were killed and injured in the 9/11 attacks. It appears that there is a hidden agenda in the supposed hunt for bin Laden. And if he is cornered it is unlikely that he will be taken alive, so the Miranda rights thing may be fluff to obscure the actual objective.

    April 15, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Esteban

    Everyone forgets something. There were 10 terrorist attacks on the US, some of which bin LAden was behind, during the Clinton administration. For each of those attacks, Slick Willie gave speeches that were identical in content, even if the words were different. To summarize them, "we will hunt down and hold accountable those responsible...". Then came the day that the CIA had bin Laden in their sights, with their finger on the trigger. It was slick Willie that gave the order to "let him go, and see what he does". I hope Bill takes the guilt that hangs around his neck to his grave for what he allowed to happen. As for bin Laden, the man must be punished in the harshest ways known to mankind. Perhaps put him at hard labor, tending to pigs and pig pens while waiting on his execution for crimes against humanity, and on execution day, tie him to a pole in the pig pen, surrounded by pigs, and light him on fire. No pain we could ever cause him will be enough, but it shouldn't be jeopardized by failing to provide due process. Read him his rights, as if it would really matter, other than to guarantee that he does not skip on a technicality. And as noted in previous posts, let's concentrate on finding the piece of ...., and stop musing over "what COULD happen, **IF** we ever catch up to him again.

    April 15, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  66. Sunil

    I'm starting to think that we don't want to find Ben Laden. IF we did that would mean not having to allocate billions of dollars towards defense industries and the Senators and Congressmen with shares in those companies.

    We have the most sophisticated intelligence services and hardware in the world and for almost 10 years now a six foot Muslim with beard who has millions of dollars of bounties on his head for a "dead or alive" capture has evaded us. Yeah right. It's total bullshi!

    This is just like the war on drugs. Unless drug dealers show up on the White House lawn with a trunk full of coke and guns, the government won't do a damn thing to protect American from the drugs and drug cartels from coming into the US across the border. It's all a way to soak up millions of dollars of taxpayers money and steal it. All while ignoring the real problem.

    April 15, 2010 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Doug

    Bin Laden will be killed either by his guards or by one of our troops. The commander on the ground will have to be very explicit in his orders not to kil if he wants Bin Laden to bear the shame of a trial. Bin Laden should not be tried in the Civilian Court System under any circumstance. He should be tried and convicted by the military. His execution should be exactly opposite of what he wants. He would want his head chopped off so, he should have lethal injection.

    April 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
  68. Realist

    If you think killing bin Laden is the smart thing to do, you are a complete idiot. IF he is captured before he kicks the bucket, he will be able to provide more information of intelligence value than you will ever know. Don't get me wrong, I like shooting insurgents as much as the next guy, but bin Laden needs to be detained ALIVE!

    April 15, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  69. Daniel

    I see that this Attorney General Eric Holder has that right-wing lynch mob mentality which is quite pervasive across the country these days.It is exactly what's wrong with the way America is being run and why the Tea Partiers are thriving so that what happened in Germany in the 1930's is being repeted here.

    April 15, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  70. rdz

    the chances of capturing him alive are almost nil. Nevertheless, what if he was? There has been a lot of debate regarding the idea of criminal trials for the terrorists in U.S. Courts. As radical as it sounds, it is not without merit. We are all outraged by their actions, but we should ask what are the pros/cons of public trials of them? One could suggest that the public war trials after WWII helped the make a closure for all involved. The Nuremberg Trials helped show the world the nature of the Nazi 's crimes. It also helped Germany to cleanse itself from the Nazi party and choose another path. Germany is not perfect, but it remains today significantly anti-military and anti-Nazi/fascist.
    What if we could do the same thing to the Arab/Muslim world? What if we could use public and fair trials to show how our way is better? Show how their extreme leaders have lead them away from success and advancement?
    It is pretty idealistic, but I would really like to see that tried.

    April 15, 2010 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  71. Dan in MD

    He may or may not still be alive. I doubt we will ever really know. If captured, the risk of attack would increase dramatically by radicals wanting to free him or use him as a bargaining tool. So what country would want to take on the risk of holding him in detention much less put him on trial?

    If killed, and it's publicly announced, then he becomes a martyr and a rallying symbol, and the risk of attacks would increase dramatically.

    I personally don't think the world will really know what happens to him for a very long time. Unless of course his body is found during a village raid and some how the story of how he was done in by his own followers gets leaked to the media.

    April 15, 2010 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  72. hdw

    Huh, this is so confusing, some need their rights read and others don't, how will the troops in the field know who does and doesn't need to be MIrandaized? So if everyone sees and hears the crime from the criminals own lips or actions, no warning is necessary? I think the Supreme Court has already ruled on that for good or bad. But there goes the Obama administration making up the rules as they go along yet again.

    April 15, 2010 at 9:31 am | Report abuse |
  73. Grego

    Holder still having issues with the administration's schizophrenic anti-terror policies. This example illustrates but one reason why it's stupid to give the enemy complete constitutional rights. Even our own soldiers don't get civilian trials when accused of war crimes.

    April 15, 2010 at 9:19 am | Report abuse |
  74. citizenUSA

    Possibly a big mistake. We should not have to read him the Miranda because an American citizen law should not apply to foreigners. However we SHOULD read him the Miranda because if we don't, somehow it will come back and bite us in the A**! How many terrorists fall back on OUR constitutional law to continue their hate talk of America or whatever ON OUR OWN SOIL! It's called C Y A!

    April 15, 2010 at 9:10 am | Report abuse |
  75. Mark L.

    LMAO...Too Funny...I mean does anyone in their right mind really believe Osama Bin Laden is going to be captured alive? GIVE ME A BREAK !! If you do, you are hallucinating !! What's more, it's been over 8.5-years since the 9/11 terrorist attacks. We've had over eight long years to capture Osama Bin Laden and his second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Are you going to tell me with all of the CIA intelligence, we have absolutely no idea where Bin Laden or al-Zawahiri are at? Something just doesn't add up. I smell more corruption and a conspiracy !!

    April 15, 2010 at 9:07 am | Report abuse |
  76. Mad Doc

    How can this person "Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Alabama" be any concerns for Osama bin Laden? Osama needs to be "Hasta la Vista" no questions. Any volunteers to have Osama as a target practice – lets make it so!

    April 15, 2010 at 8:46 am | Report abuse |
  77. kane

    Give that worm rights? Are you serious?

    April 15, 2010 at 8:43 am | Report abuse |
  78. America **** Yea!

    Bin Laden is a noob. I want to punch him square in the face

    April 15, 2010 at 7:48 am | Report abuse |
  79. Glenn Zier

    What are you thinking. Bin Laden is not an American citizen and therefor is not afforded the protection of Miranda.

    April 15, 2010 at 7:42 am | Report abuse |
  80. alumette

    No worry about Miranda rights. The guy is as elusive as a magician. We will never find him or know where he hides. He has too many dedicated helpers and followers. Our mistake for not trying harder during the Bush administration.

    April 15, 2010 at 4:45 am | Report abuse |
  81. h nassor

    will you catch him? why dont you conetrate on important issues instead of wasting time on imaginary things.

    April 15, 2010 at 3:30 am | Report abuse |
  82. John

    Whether you like him or not, I believe Attorney General Eric Holder is 100% correct on this one.

    April 15, 2010 at 2:33 am | Report abuse |
  83. Iraq Paramedic

    I do believe in our system of justice, even though it has gotten a little too liberal, but these guys are war criminals, terrorist of the worst sort. Let the millitary try them & exacute them. In our court system they are going to find some liberal judge & liberal lawyer to get them freed on BS technicallities & they will go right back to planning & plotting & killing innocent people all over the world. Or they will get life sentences & we will be paying to educate, medicate, feed & house them from now on. They want their 72 black eyed virgins, well I say let's send them to them. Because what they don't know is those virgins are actually black eyed demons in hell.
    OK everybody that is not me, that is not what GOD says. GOD's word says: Proverbs 25 verse 21- If thine enemy be hungry give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty give him water to drink; 22- for thou shall heap coals of fire upon his head and the Lord shall reward thee. In other words we should not lower ourselves to their level.
    May GOD Bless & keep us all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 15, 2010 at 2:12 am | Report abuse |
  84. David Markland, Los Angeles

    Did Holder, and CNN, forget that Miranda rights also include advising the suspect that they also have a right to legal counsel? Holder is clearly pandering to the Conservatives who have no respect for our justice system, which by his statements Holder shows gross disregard for. Showing bin Laden go through the US legal system without any shortcuts would demonstrate that the United States' truly believes in a rule of law.

    April 15, 2010 at 12:31 am | Report abuse |
  85. Husman ' Kub

    Jeff Sessions is nothing but a nitwit with his offensive patent drawl that further mark him out of touch with authentic thoughts beyound what he perceive his racial soaked past life.This is somebody whose intellect at best would have made a mockery of those in quest of ideas but know what,, he is a senator of the United states of America.I hope merit can be a yard stick to attaining political heights.

    April 14, 2010 at 11:43 pm | Report abuse |
  86. simplefact

    Everything else is good for academic discussions!

    April 14, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  87. simplefact

    Simple solution... put a much bigger bounty on Osama's head by itself; and a smaller bounty if he is caught alive!🙂

    April 14, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
  88. PapaSmurf

    According to this public servant, the Emperor of Japan should have been tried in a civilian court for the December 7, 1941 sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. That clearly illustrates the absurdity and misguided path this Administration insists on pursuing regarding 911.

    April 14, 2010 at 11:01 pm | Report abuse |
  89. nick

    Then why not just kill him and forego the expense of a trial.... How can the Miranda warning not be required if there is a presumption of innocience in the civilian courts? Does the Government unilaterally determine if someone in the civilian courts "deserves" to be advised of his or her rights? Doesn't being on the civilian docket mean that bin Laden would be afforded constitutional protections? The is something deeply inconsistent and troubling about Holders remarks. The rule of law isn't a switch that the Attorney General or a politician gets to turn on or off.

    April 14, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Banderman

    Could this guy be any more ridiculous?

    April 14, 2010 at 10:56 pm | Report abuse |
  91. Steve Mally

    No need to read him his rights, if he is a corpse. That would work out just fine by me.

    April 14, 2010 at 9:47 pm | Report abuse |
  92. AshannaK

    Osama bin Laden is an alimentary canal opening. We can all agree on that.
    However, read him Miranda. That way there will be no doubt as to the justice
    he'll get. And our tails will be protected. And he'll have no cause to complain,
    spelled with a capital 'B'.

    April 14, 2010 at 9:41 pm | Report abuse |
  93. Rick Indiana

    well you all wont have to worry about that.

    April 14, 2010 at 9:26 pm | Report abuse |
  94. OldGoat

    If I were the one who tracks down bin Laden, I can assure you my first action upon capturing him won't involve any legal formalities, Mr. Holder.

    April 14, 2010 at 8:11 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Wes Harris

    Holder is missing the point. He is confirming his belief that Bin Laden is entitled to Miranda rights. He just thinks we are lucky enough to be able to get a conviction, even if any statements by Bin Laden after his hypothetical arrest are thrown out by a judge in a civilian court.

    The opposing view, which I would support, is that Bin Laden is an enemy combatant who has no Miranda rights in the first place. This whole exchange just illustrates the danger of putting Bin Laden in a civilian court, where his fate can be decide on the whim of some federal judge, who may decide to apply entirely inappropriate rules of evidence. What are we supposed to do if some judge orders Bin Laden set free on the streets of New York?

    April 14, 2010 at 7:48 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Dan Lafayette,IN

    Come on Holder do you really think that we will capture bin Laden alive? I would think that he would be surrounded by other terrorists and I've heard that if we were to close in on him that they would kill him rather than he be taken alive.

    April 14, 2010 at 7:34 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Rick

    Good for him, hopefully it never c omes to that and he comes back as a corpse. Too many of our brothers and sisters have sacrificed so much for this coward to be found.

    April 14, 2010 at 7:24 pm | Report abuse |
  98. Carlos Jose Fernandez

    LOL, the U.S. Government ought to hire Chapo Guzman to find Osama bin Laden, probably take him a week. This whole trend of thought is stupid, gotta catch him first.......

    April 14, 2010 at 6:37 pm | Report abuse |
  99. Kathy

    I see no reason to read him his rights, or bring him in alive. I say shoot him on sight and rid the world of this murderer. I'm sure he or any of his followers would not hesitate to put a bullet in our head if the opportunity presented itself. We are much too diplomatic, just kill him and get it over with.

    April 14, 2010 at 5:56 pm | Report abuse |