April 2nd, 2010
08:02 AM ET

Karzai blames foreigners for election fraud

[Update: 3:06 p.m. ET] White House calls Karzai comments 'troubling'

Kabul, Afghanistan - Afghan President Hamid Karzai, just days after meeting with U.S. President Barack Obama, castigated the international community for meddling in national elections, saying foreigners - not his supporters - are responsible for widespread fraud.

"No doubt, there was huge fraud, there was vast fraud," Karzai said Thursday in a speech before the Independent Election Commission. "The fraud is not by the Afghans. This fraud has been done by the foreigners."

Karzai's comments come as Afghanistan is debating what role foreigners will play in parliamentary elections set for September.

On Wednesday, the lower house of Parliament rejected Karzai's decree revoking the authority of the United Nations to appoint members of the Electoral Complaints Commission - the same panel that tossed fraudulent votes cast for Karzai last summer.

A U.N.-backed fraud monitoring panel had invalidated nearly a third of Karzai's votes from last August's presidential election because of "clear and convincing evidence of fraud."

A runoff vote was canceled in the close race after challenger Abdullah Abdullah withdrew and Karzai was declared the winner.

The elections were seen as a key test for Afghanistan's struggling democracy, and the allegations of fraud stoked tensions between Karzai and his international allies, especially the United States.

Obama's visit earlier in the week was seen as an attempt by Washington to work out political difficulties as the United States and coalition forces prepare for a June military offensive designed to wrest control of the southern city of Kandahar from the Taliban.

With Obama at his side, Karzai thanked the United States, pointing out that U.S. taxpayers have helped rebuild his country.

But his accusations Thursday revealed the prickly nature of his relationship with his most powerful ally.

The United Nations in Afghanistan did not comment on Karzai's allegations. But Peter Galbraith, the former U.N. deputy chief in Afghanistan who was at odds with the U.N. chief for his early criticism of the presidential vote, said he he thought at first that Karzai was making an "April Fool's joke."

"The U.N. fired me for trying to prevent that kind of fraud, and Karzai and his lieutenants committed it to try to get him re-elected," Galbraith said. "It's absurd to suggest that I or the U.N. could have done this."

Galbraith said Karzai's connection to reality is slim.

"This just shows how unreliable he is as an ally," he said.

At a press briefing, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said he had not seen Karzai's specific comments but that the United States will continue to press the Afghan president on promises he made in his inaugural speech - to fight corruption and practice good governance.

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  1. Itzamna

    Looks like we're about to be back where we started. Fighting guys that we trained and armed. How many times do we have to do this before we realize that we're going to continuously be battling the people we keep helping to be put into power? That whole helping bin Laden out really worked out for us the first time didn't it?

    April 5, 2010 at 3:06 am | Report abuse |
  2. mamut

    Thats always happened when a person cannot accept of loosing the election, If Karzai can see the future that he shall remain in power forever...then he should be also a sorsery he predict that the election is because of outsider so he is a racist person aswell?

    April 5, 2010 at 2:07 am | Report abuse |
  3. TOM

    As i know the story of afghanistan, when the British and xsoviets tried to take over afghanistan or become their empire, it did not work and the brave afghan people fought against them.thy were courageous and stood up for their country.But, right now the pakistani secret service called (isi) trained their tailaban in afghan refugey at pakistan which they stay and live there and train them then they go and fight in Afghanistan. No one can stand up to these horrid people, for they are scared. the afghan want nothing but peace .

    April 4, 2010 at 11:53 pm | Report abuse |
  4. Naren

    It is really astonishing how most of us (Americans) think we just cannot do no wrong. Did we not drop atom bomb, did we not use Orange stuff in vietnam, Did we not host taliban in white house? How come all that was Ok or forgotten at best. And lastly why do we install dictators in foreign lands, you got to be kidding me if you tell me it is to help the natives. It is to blame the foreigners (namely them) just like karzai is doing. I agree this has to stop, but let's do it right, atleast this time.

    April 4, 2010 at 8:07 am | Report abuse |
  5. Prakash Chandra Kandel

    Mr. Karzai has lost his credibility as a peacemaker and a stabilizer. Moreover, he is the illegitimate president.
    His statement should not be taken lightly as it has been made in the backdrop of a recent visit by his Iranian counterpart Mahmoud Ahaminejad.
    The international coalition on Afghanistan should think of his alternative as he is no more a reliable partner, and violence and corruption have not ebbed despite his commitment on those two key aspects.

    April 4, 2010 at 7:07 am | Report abuse |
  6. Mohsen

    I have worked with so called independent Election Commission and UN ,I think Karzai's speech was result of Ahmadi Nejad trip to Kabul . every time that president of IRAN comes to Afghanstan we confront with many difference and changes in Karzai speech .
    I think Ahmadi nejad had came to Afghanistan to brief karzi and force thier ideas to Karzai
    Because after meeting with president of Iran we faced this problem.

    April 4, 2010 at 5:54 am | Report abuse |
  7. Basir Feda

    Karzai's outburst is rooted in his problems with Holbroke and the public criticism directed towards him by American officials. I think he shouldn't have been that far with his speech, crossing all limits. That sort of criticism of the international community will not do him any good – it only illustrates his weak and corrupt leadership. Afghanistan, at such a critical time, needs a good partnership with the international community, especially the US to try to overcome the enormous challenges the country faces in almost all fields, be it security, economic development, etc.

    I see a lot of comments here from Americans calling for a pull-out and abandoning Afghanistan for good because an idiot like Karzai says something stupid. I just want to remind you guys that Afghanistan was forgotten once in the past after the Soviet withdrawal and everybody knows what happened later on – the price was paid by many countries around the world, especially the US. 9/11 is not something you should forget. You should also know that all Afghans are not terrorists. We want a peaceful life, just like everybody else but you guys sitting miles away in the States will not understand how violence is imposed on this poor country, with so many hands working behind the scenes. I don't see many responsible comments here.

    April 4, 2010 at 4:13 am | Report abuse |
  8. ahmad omaid

    afghanistan people appreciate what president Karzi sain about election fraud
    most afghanistan people support prsident karzi he is honest and faithful person to his country and his people

    April 4, 2010 at 1:28 am | Report abuse |
  9. Onesmallvoice

    If this Hamid Karzai had any sense of decency,he'd tell all these creepy foreigners to vacate his country as soon as possible and negotiate a peace with the Taliban.Once all the foreigners left,maybe Afghanistan could begin a recovery process.And let's stop listening to all these right-wing fools who keep trying to tell us what a wonderful thing war is.

    April 4, 2010 at 12:44 am | Report abuse |
  10. Magnifier

    The West of course is not interested in the resources of Afghanistan. It is interested in it's location as a crossroads to oil fields and sea ports. It does not have either, but sits in between. Afghanistan is a rich prize. There is a reason why the British, Russians, Pakistanis, and now Americans are there.

    April 3, 2010 at 8:35 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Nathanael [desert voice]

    This is Easter time! We must quit advocating violence. If the UN has proof the President Karzai's brother is a drug lord, this should be enough reason to take him in custody, without a shot being fired. I don't see anything less than this to test President Karzai's true colors. No President can support his country being the greatest world producer of drugs! Let's test him, how "presidential" he is. The whole situation is a powder keg. The U.S. has trained an Afghan army with allegiance to the President, at least nominally. Where will the army go if the Karzais are deposed? Is Abdullah for real, or is he also involved in murky deals? Maybe Afghanistan needs a MacArthur? He was a Protector of sorts, until Japan was able to get on its feet. The historians should study this alternative. I do think that Afghanistan is too disjointed by wars and drugs and may need a Protectorate. We bloggers cannot comment intelligently without knowing what Messers. Galbreith and Holbrooke know! And also President Obama. What does he know? They are America's leaders. They should lead! All Christians can really do is to pray for peace in Afghanistan, especially during this Easter!

    April 3, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Noor

    Karzai should think of Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem the
    Prime Minister of South Vietnam WHO was replaced in 1963

    Ngo Dinh Diem was killed in a coup d'état

    April 3, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Melangell

    Support the troops... Bring them home.

    April 3, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  14. FJSH

    The first thing which Karzai do right was this

    April 3, 2010 at 5:10 am | Report abuse |
  15. Rich Azure

    The Afghan Election Commission, some of whom were appointed by the UN, the US, and European allies, de-certified about 30% of the votes for Karzai due to fraud alleged to have been committed by Karzai's people. Karzai wants his people and the opposition to believe that the action of "foreigners", the UN Commission's throwing out 30% of the votes for him, was a "massive fraud" AND that HE didn't commit any fraud at all.
    His comments were for domestic consumption. It is an example of his two-faced nature. He wants the Afghan Parliament to give him powers not in their constitution and not in the multi-lateral agreement that installed him as president. If he can use anti-foreigner (anti-American) rhetoric to bolster support for his power-grabbing ways, then he will be able to commit election fraud again by banning international observers.
    That guy is an idiot. Another poster said he should lose that stupid hat. Lose the green robe, as well. It smacks of the past when Afghanistan was ruled by kings and khans.

    April 3, 2010 at 3:59 am | Report abuse |
  16. Mustafa Khalazaie

    I think, the root of this speech was anywhere else, and as I think this is the first time that Mr. Karzai blamed the united nations and his allies and illustrate all his Angriness, even he said that one of the United Nations Representative warn him if he didn't accept their decisions. This speech of President Kazai in such a critical satiation looks really so irresponsible. But I want to mention that, Yeah, he is right that the passed presidential election was out of transparency, there was fraud, either from the Afghans side or from the foreigners but this critical satiation is not able to suffer mentioning such sensitive issue. The international committee, ISAF, NATO, United Nations and many others who involved in Afghanistan’s Politics they are also not angels, they are just doing business, sometimes for Afghans but most of the time for their own profit. Otherwise by having the supports of such huge and power full nations of the world, that within a month they just finished all the Taliban's and insurgents from across the Afghanistan, but now why they are not able to at least do what we (Afghans) want.

    April 3, 2010 at 2:35 am | Report abuse |
  17. Bill Mosby

    Looks like a lot of people have made a habit of forgetting what our interest is in Afghanistan. The first one to forget was W, when he took needed resources and attacked Iraq with them.

    April 2, 2010 at 8:54 pm | Report abuse |
  18. May Morrison

    I think that with this comment from "the royal highness" of Afganistan that all UN forces should just leave him. Pull out all of our troups. Let his stew in his own juice.
    Why should we take this type of BS?

    April 2, 2010 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Joseph Michaels

    The Truth about Afghanistan

    When will Americans wake up and realize what is really going on in Afghanistan.

    1. Democracy? There is not, and never will be, a chance for real democracy in Afghanistan. It is a small, corrupt, third world country in which the rulers have always profitted from their position, and were influenced by numerous groups over time. Karzia, or anyone else that replaces him, are ready to sell out to the highest bidders, but will never be able to control the entire country.
    Instilling democracy there is an excuse for the war to be more acceptable to the Americans and European people. We saw this everywhere, from Vietnam to Iraq. What the UN is really looking for is a leader that they can get to do their bidding at all times.
    So do not discount Karzai's assertiion that the UN had something to do with the fraudulent election. And certainly do not discount that Karzai did a fair amount of rigging on his own.

    2, US empire and natural resources? While there are no seeming alluring natural resources in Afghanistan itself, there is oil in the Caspian Sea. And that oil is owned by the Rockefeller oil conglomerate, part of the Rothschild/Rockefeller international banking cartel that is truly responsible for the war in Afghanistan.

    3.Terrorists? Americans need to learn true history. The Bolshevik (Communist) Revolution of 1917 was financed and supported by Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg, and the Federal Reserve created in 1913. Schiff and Warburg, Rothschild representatives in America, and the creators of the Federal Reserve system in 1913, loaned over $60 million to Lenin and Trotsky to carry out their revolution and displace the czars. their payback was Lenin bringing in the Rothschild bankers to create the new centrqal bank for Russia, the same as our "Federal Reserve." In one fell seoop, the Rothschild?Rockefeller baning cartel had taken hold of the Russian economy.
    Since then, they have financed and forced every war upon mankind for their own purposes. Don't believe it? Just look at the congressional investigation of the Federal Reserve accomplished by Rep. Joseph McFadden in 1932.
    And they have started every war with phony or staged incidents. The Lusitania. Poland's attack on Hitler. The Gulf of Tonkin. 9/11?
    Who are the real terrorists? And whose empire is it that is being expanded?
    The evidence is there. so much, that I can not even begin to put it all in just this one letter. By control of the American government they have dragged America into every horrible war of the 20th Century. And now the 21st.

    Wake up America. Before it is too late.

    Josrph Michaels
    expatriate in Thailand

    April 2, 2010 at 6:56 pm | Report abuse |
  20. Bill Foonman

    It's time for the U.S. to get the hell out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Only unmitigated stupidity and ignorance caused Bush to get involved in the first place. The U.S. should do what they did in Vietnam – declare victory and pull out.

    April 2, 2010 at 6:44 pm | Report abuse |
  21. Abdirahim

    if attempt to fire Karzai, he will walk away with millions of his Bashtuun tribe. Therefore, its batter to keep him in there and give whatever he wants . otherwise Taliban with Al Qaeda will takeover everything again

    April 2, 2010 at 6:43 pm | Report abuse |
  22. BS

    We need to get out of Afghanistan. How about we send Bush and Cheney over there since they are the one's who got us into this mess.

    April 2, 2010 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
  23. Malice

    First off, you cant fix stupid without a rope or a bullet.

    You can fix " Uneducated " but you cant fix stupid.

    Second off, you cant fix corruption without a few top level leaders heads on pikes.

    History has MANY glaring examples of these two points, the problem is, that politicians think they know better then history. That their revolutionary idea is FAR better then anything any human has ever conceived in the past.

    Yet when you look at them from a different point of view, the idea is essentially the same, just different pawns and different technology involved in the plays.

    We cant win, and we need to stop trying, the more we enforce our ideals on them, the more fuel we add to the extremist agenda, the more extremists attack us, and the more innocents die.

    To the English, George Washington was a Terrorist.

    To Americans, he is one of the single greatest Patriots of our countries history.

    We are making bin Laden and his cohorts into symbols for their ideals, and this needs to stop.

    If the Afghans want freedom and to remove the oppressive Taliban from their lands, let them pick up the guns and fight for what they want, and lets stop fighting other peoples battles.

    lets spend the multibillion dollar budget for these two wars tightening our own security, ensuring OUR safety.

    When terrorists attack us on our land, lets be ready, not caught with our pants down and our hands in the overseas cookie jars like the past.

    In other words, lets LEARN from our mistakes.

    April 2, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Anon

    We need to get our troops OUT of Afghanistan!!! There is NO good reason for us to be there. The US needs to QUIT nation building and mind our own business!!!

    April 2, 2010 at 6:07 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Nathanael [desert voice]

    Drugs do this to you: you lose the sense of reality. I always said that President Karzai is bad news. He seems to be waiting the Coalition out, along with his brother. The scariest part is that the U.S. appears unable to say no to both of them! One is President; the other is Governor of Kandahar where the military campaign is soon to begin "under Karzai brothers' oversight." Scary! The brother of the President takes for granted that he is unmovable in Kandahar, regardless if Taliban is defeated. It's a sickening "opium haze" game that places lives of U.S. soldiers on a roller coaster! How can gen. Crystal be sure that friends of the Governor aren't preparing ambushes already, pointing their guns at the G.I.s, unbeknowst? I wouldn't be so sure. The Karzai duo scares me!

    April 2, 2010 at 6:01 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Irfan Haqqee

    He may be saying whatever he is saying for his own selfish reason but he is telling the truth. US needs a puppet government in Afghanistan. Why would US want to be in Afghanistan? The BIG reason is between Afghanistan and Iraq. Your US government has guaranteed Israel's safety. After Saddam Iran is the big thorn on Israel's side. Your soldiers will once again be called upon to make sacrifices for Israel's well being. Make sense? Karzai was once a puppet too but he is now trying to engage in peace talks with Taliban leaders. That defeats the reason for the presence of US troops when peace is ought in that region. Chaos ensures continued US and Allied Troops in Afghanistan.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:58 pm | Report abuse |
  27. brown

    Karzai is the fraud! He has done little to improve Afghanistan in nine years except to
    fill his pockets with U.S. taxpayer money and negotiate his get-out-of-jail pass with
    the Mullahs when the U.S leaves Afghanistan.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:51 pm | Report abuse |
  28. George

    This doesn't surprise me. Karzai lost face when Obama flew in and told him to end corruption. Though I laud Obama for his efforts, it is akin to telling a sewer rat to stay out of the sewers. This is a good wake up call for the U.S. and the other nations spilling their blood and expending their valuable resources in a region that does not deserve anything of the sort.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm | Report abuse |
  29. Tim

    Fine. Let's leave...the entire international community just get up and leave...along with ALL of the financial aid being provided, ALL of the infrastructure improvement projects, everything. Let the Afghani's have there dust-ridden, disease-infested, inbred world. They don't provide the rest of the world with anything of value anymore. Leave them alone and let all of the warlords take control again. They'll destroy themselves in a couple years.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  30. Truthywood

    Looks like Karzai doesn't want to loose his power.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:29 pm | Report abuse |
  31. Chris in SD

    I guess hes learning how to spin election results from the Tancredo crowd.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:27 pm | Report abuse |
  32. john g

    No matter what we do, if that idiot is left in power, we cannot succeed. We are better off leaving the country, letting the taliban take over again, and pound them from the air and from our drones to thwart them from becoming organized again.

    April 2, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  33. Chuchi

    I met with Karzai last week. I thought "wow, this is a guy I want to have a beer with"....and then I saw the good in his eyes. Well thats all I needed to know. This guy is with us. On that note: Mr Terrorist – BRING IT ON!

    April 2, 2010 at 5:18 pm | Report abuse |
  34. Elizabeth Stitt

    Re: David Gurgin – What does "Macurial" mean?

    April 2, 2010 at 5:17 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Bilal Wardak

    But, then what shocks me the most is' if his brother really is a drug lord (which he is for a fact) and also has close ties with the insurgents, what about the fact that he is one of the closest CIA guys?
    One of the invaders that tried to invade Afghanistan thousands of years ago ( I suppose Alexander ) had said
    "you can rent Afghans, but cannot buy them"
    This is clearly what's going on, Karzai was the guy as long as the cash was flowing through. Now, all of a sudden he talks and warns US about siding with Taliban and uprising of a national resistance? lo

    April 2, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
  36. Brian Kerry

    Now they know how we feel, with untold millions of funding coming in from overseas via the internet for Obama's campaign.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
  37. FWIW

    It certainly is time to leave Afghanistan. But we really can't afford to let it be taken over by the Taliban. Asimple solution would be to

    1 – withdraw our troops
    2 – allow them to form any government they wish providing it's not hostile to to us
    3 – let them know that if it is hostile to us we will bomb any and all meetings of their government and any area where we believe their military is stationed. (If we bomb them back to the first or second century we'll probably even make the Taliban happy, those being the times they wish to live in anyhow.)
    4- With only bombing government builodings and military installations we probably would cause fewer civilian casualities than we do now. Should have close to none U.S. casualities.
    5 – Most likely would have to declare war on them to get away with this, but we've done that for less.
    This solution is in jest (I think)

    April 2, 2010 at 4:44 pm | Report abuse |
  38. question authority

    This is all smoke and mirrors. There is no reason to be outraged. The vast majority of Afgans feel that all foreigners are bad (including Al Queda.) He is just spewing this rhetoric as a way to appeal to his constituency. He is basically saying "I am not the US's prostitute. I hate all foreigners, just like you." I agree that he is corrupt. It is a safe assumption that most of the rulers in that region are, but at least acknowledge the fine line that he has to walk between appealing to his US sugar daddies and appealing to his people.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:42 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Bilal Wardak

    Karzai indirectly calls on all Afghans to get prepared for a national resistance, it's very clear. I'm pretty sure something went wrong between him and Obama. Not to mention, the new insurgent peace talks and Iranian interference also has something to do with all this chaos. I'm not sure what to say as an Afghan, I'm not sure what the Americans have to say about their advocate of democracy in Afghanistan (i.e. Karzai). I mean literaly, the Americans wanted the Afghans to trust Karzai and look up to him as the president. Now, that he has clearly told of the Americans, I wonder what the Americans have to say about this. I'm very positive about the fact that this is probably the end of all that sweet talk between Karzai and Obama administration.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Jeff Ross

    This is what we are wasting our money and young peoples lives on. This man who at a drop of a hat would blame the world for his crime and the crimes of his cohorts.

    We want to bring Afgans peace then get this man to understand truth must come first.
    Make him prove what he has accused others of. Let him show the world his evidence that the fraud that came about in the Presidential elections came from external forces.

    Should he refuses to comply, remove him from office by force. Kill the SOB.

    He's a weak leader.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  41. JKF

    For as long as Karzai holds office, the future is absolutely grim for Afghanistan's people and its allies. For awhile, all gave Karzai the benefit that it was his associates that were corrupt beyond redemption; now, we can see/hear beyond any reasonable doubt, if the report reflects correctly Karzai's statements, that in fact it is Karzai himself that is corrupt beyond redemption. The sooner Karzai retires permanently, from Afghan politics, the sooner there will be some remote possibility of turning the sit around in Afghanistan; if he does not retire, the future is very grim. Karzai has been quite good at fooling his NATO allies' political leaders, but as suspected for some time, the people of Afghanistan are far better character reaeders than his Western allies. Uner such a sit, it will be very difficult, if not impossible, to help the Afghan people secure their freedom and adopt a secular state that could bring about a far better future than any alternative could. Karzai needs to be retired by the Afghan people!

    April 2, 2010 at 4:10 pm | Report abuse |
  42. James

    Of course it's everyone else's fault that his country is a no good waste of space.

    April 2, 2010 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
  43. nrml_guy

    I can't wait for obama to get us out of this mess. Obama? Obama?

    April 2, 2010 at 3:57 pm | Report abuse |
  44. Xanthippe

    It pisses me off that we send people over to allegedly create a better society in a country that is mega corrupt. A country that is rampant with rape, a bad attitude towards education and just heinous crime everywhere. What good is it to build schools when ignorant dysfunctionals destroy the schools, put acid in girls faces, etc? WTF? Big Pharma should make some deals to get that opium for all the surgeries for vets that will be needed. And why oh WHY are we sending billions to Pakistan and Bangladesh where people who are non-Muslim are raped, killed and tortured daily? Where not even asking for help from their government gives releif but only armies coming in to kill citizens because they are NON muslim. GET EDUCATED people. This whole episode is so sick, such an abomination on humanity. Daily, Christians, Hindus and Buddhists are being murdered by Muslims. By Muslim Armies that we are sending billions of dollars to. It's time to STOP. Keep the money here. We have enough problems. We have to have funds to use for the new healthcare plan and not giving money to corrupt mentally ill governments would be a good start. And if CNN actually puts this out there I'll be amazed.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  45. John in Marin

    Lou, Your comment: remember in November!
    No joking REMEMBER what party (R) got us there in the first place and allowed this corruption for almost a decade until now. Now that the Dems are turning up the HEAT which the previous administration was not willing to do, Kazari can't take it and he's lashing back.
    Keep up the excellent work Mr. President. I believe the Dems are the new hawks and have the Leadership and Capability to far out-perform below average Republican Leadership.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  46. Tim Fitz

    We should have ended this war quickly and brutally at the beginning, but this is just another
    feather in the mission accomplished right wing failed mentality. When are the American people going to wake up and reject this antiquated thinking and finally put an end to this. If a bunch of cave men want to war against each other and live in a morally and economically
    corrupt country, then lets let them. We just need to fill the air with drones and if they make
    dangerous decisions the can hurt us, we kill them. The worst thing we could do is re-elect the same buffoons that screwed it up from 2000-2008.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:45 pm | Report abuse |
  47. runswithbeer

    WE (America/Bush) put a crook in power, time to pull the plug and put someone else in power. Obama needs to fire KBR and Haliburton. Haliburton isn't even an American Company anymore. what a stinking mess the Republicans left.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:41 pm | Report abuse |
  48. eric

    Well count another that the Rookie in chief lets slowly slip from his grasp. we have an Elected amateur running this country. How many american lives have been lost in the fight for our freedom over terrorism, and the freedom for the aAfgan people for Obama to allow them to become under the influence of our enemies? I would love to have been a fly on the wall to have heard what Obama had said to offend them. Its apparent what side Obama has chosen. Never before have i seen a US president lay sanction on a country for building homes inside its own borders (Israel) and yet accomplish nothing on a country attempting to build nuclear weapons so that they can bring apon the world the new Imam. (Iran). God help us all with this fool we have in power

    April 2, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  49. frombelair

    you are a fraud, don`t forget how you became president or whatever you are, the white planted you there, if you had a shred of dignity you wouldn`t be there, foreigners? what foreigners,

    April 2, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Larry W

    Pres Obama's stated goal in Afghanistan/Pakistan was narrow - only to protect the US from terror attacks - not to bring democracy to the country, etc. The tactics include helping the various regions for whom the government is ineffective, and to prevent the Taliban/Al Qaeda from widening the attacks.

    We've seen Karzai bring in Iran's Ahmadinejad, diss the US/Obama, attacks into Pakistan (a nuclear power), attacks in Mumbai India by Pakistani terrorists, now Islamic attacks in Moscow, Islamists in the US itself, aiding terrorist attacks outside the US, attempts to kill Dutch cartoonists, London bombings, bombs in underwear on US flights, and, of course, 9/11.

    Sorry, though "let's pull out" would be a good idea if the Islamic extremists had, say, narrow goals to remove foreigners from controlling their country, but that the does not seem to be the case. The Islamist extremists seem to be hell-bent on expanding their terrorist activities against the "infidels" - that is, us. I would strongly prefer to take the battle to them in their own countries rather than battling them on our soil. Would anyone disagree with that?

    But, perhaps there some battles on our own soil that need to be acknowledged and won.

    Major financing of the Taliban/Al Qaeda seems to come from the opium trade. The two biggest markets for heroin is Russia and the US. Isn't that ironic? The people of the US are playing a major role in financing those whose goal to attack the US.

    In the abstract, I don't care if people get hooked on drugs - shows a profound lack of character - as long as it harms only themselves. But that doesn't seem to be the case here. The drug trade from Afghanistan, to Mexico, to the US (and gun running from Texas to Mexico), financed by purchasers of drugs in the US now borders on treasonous.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Report abuse |
  51. Charles Davidson

    What a joke. I spent a year there as a civilian, Karzai is completely corrupt. Why did no one ever look into Abdullah's "decision" to drop out of the election??? Could this get any more ridiculous blatant?

    April 2, 2010 at 3:06 pm | Report abuse |
  52. Jon F

    It is insane to think we can work with this man as we fight a war in his country. Over the long term it is a total losing proposition of trying to manage Afghanistan – and we good soldiers every day trying. I agree with others – the faster we leave that place the better. If Karzai is the best they can muster then we haven't a prayer of success.

    April 2, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  53. jae

    Keith,
    Here is what frustrates me the most. Raping women, not teaching people how to read, enslaving men, women and children is how this country was built on. It still continues today in the inner city. Why r u not in an uproar for fellow americans as you are with the oppressed people in Afghanistan. I always here people like keith justifing going to another country to stop oppression, first, learn why we went there. It wasnt to end oppression, it was to get osama bin laden because we were told he was there, even though in July and August, american soldiers were protecting osama bin laden in a hospital in pakistan. Also, to stop oppression, you have to care about the people that are being oppressed. Do you honestly think that Dick Cheney and his kronies cares about Muslims anywhere in the world? Keith, how much do you care about Muslims?
    Stop drinking the "FAUX" news cool-aid. We are not in the 50's or 60's anymore.
    WTG for Health Care for everyone, oh I forgot, its too expensive and why do I need to pay for their health care. Didn't Adam Smith, father of the "great" Capitalism say, "everyone out for themselves" but we need to help oppressed people in other countries, just not our own oppressed people, who have been oppressed for the last 600 years.
    In short, Keith, ur an idiot and all of the republiKKKans are idiots.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:54 pm | Report abuse |
  54. Allzen

    Karzai is a crook. He does not care that we have spend hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of American lives to save his country from terrorists. He has not idea what democracy is about. He won't last long.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  55. Bahu Baht

    Karzai hasn't been able to make any progress whatsoever while NATO forces have shouldered most of the responsibilities. I'm Canadian, and we've lost 141 soldiers out of a rotating force that has peaked at only 2,500 people there. For what?

    He hasn't been able to raise a competent army of people who actually want to defend their own country; he hasn't been able to weed out the rampant corruption in their legal system. He gives into warlords in agreements that fly in the face of the very progress we've tried to make, he attempts to play "good cop" by attempting to open relations with the Taliban at times where it's obvious they wouldn't want to, making him look like an idiot – he tries to hold onto his seat through corruption that everyone acknowledges exists except himself; even his own people are disillusioned with him.

    If eight years wasn't enough time to give the country the jump-start it needed to allow NATO troops to withdraw, no amount of time really is. Depending on foreign aid allows him to play the role of the "peace-lover" while focusing on his own interests.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  56. jae

    Man, arent we glad that the world is safer now that we invaded, i mean, took over, i mean, bombed, i mean. Man, why did we invade Afghanistan? Oh yeah, we were gonna, "SMOKE THEM OUT" AS BUSH STATED. Was he talking about Osama bin Laden or the Opium. I really think he meant Opium, Cause we damn sure didn't get Osama. But u republiKKKans will find a way to justify murdering millions of non-christians.
    Also, u republiKKKans will find a way to say that President Obama did this. We will remember this in November, we will remember this for our lifetime cause if you want Afghanistan and Iraq again in another country, please continue to vote republiKKKans, I am sure the militia's will love it.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:41 pm | Report abuse |
  57. John Fries

    CNN Wire Staff: I think you misquoted Galbraith as saying "The UN fired me for...". I believe he said "The UN hired me to.." Unless I'm completely misunderstanding...

    April 2, 2010 at 2:38 pm | Report abuse |
  58. aristhrottle

    Has there ever been a leader of a Muslim country who has NOT blamed Israel or the West for any and all problems that they face? Ridiculous.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:35 pm | Report abuse |
  59. Shinwari

    For all those who believe we are there to dominate the region...LET ME TELL YOU...You are so OFF the reality! Problems in Afghanistan are all local....just like we say all politics is local...that is the case in Afghanistan. Afghanistan has a lot of problems...but it is a country that has existed for thousands of years....and it will exist for another thousand years....let them figure out there problems....and let them deal with the issues....and the international community should assisst in its sovereignty.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:33 pm | Report abuse |
  60. Badfrog

    We know that...otherwise that kenyan wouldn't be in the whitehouse

    April 2, 2010 at 2:27 pm | Report abuse |
  61. ge

    This is a rupublican mess – just like all of the other. History will judge you all harshly

    April 2, 2010 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  62. edwoodjr

    Ironic that foreigners are also responsible for him being the so called "president" to begin with.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:23 pm | Report abuse |
  63. Diogenes

    I'm not surprised, here in the United States most voter fraud is by illegals with the help of SEIU and ACORN-renamed

    April 2, 2010 at 2:17 pm | Report abuse |
  64. MonasteryMonkey

    The Karzai clan are a bunch of thieves. How can America expect to gain the upper hand with the terrorists in Afghanistan if its duly elected leader is undermining our efforts?

    We should beef up our internal security in the homeland. Get out of that hell hole and implement a defensive posture of shooting first and asking questions second. If someone is caught in the cross hairs, too bad!

    April 2, 2010 at 2:07 pm | Report abuse |
  65. Emil Raschle

    What if the tax dollars used in Iraq and Afghanistan would be used to educate our society to be drug free, eat and live healthy, so we don't need to protect ourselves from Afghanistan's opium traders? We can spend all the money in Iraq and Afghanistan, but only little will be achieved, Karzai's explanation to the alleged election fraud is just another blow in the dark.

    April 2, 2010 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  66. TracyP

    We need to walk away from this immediately. There's nothing to gain here but to build a stronger training ground for new terrorists under the rule of yet another installed leader that the US created. We'll be back in 30 years when he starts the mass murdering.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  67. Florence

    Karzai was in put in power by Bush, not Obama. Corruption is his last name and almost 99.9% of people in Middle East have the same last name. Corruption is in their genes. This has been the way of life with these people for centuries. Can someone name one leader in this part of the world that has been fair? How do you fix a corrupt nation overnight? But again, we use the same scale to measure everyone. These people will take care of themselves the way they have been if we let them. Sometimes you need to hit the bottom in order to pull up. Let's forget about fixing the world. Let us put our energy and our money to rebuild our country after the 8 disaster years of Bush’s reign of power. Let’s take care of our domestic corruption first. Let us demand justice from our government. Why are Bush and his cronies still running free and have the right to benefit from their books and making money giving speeches and spreading more lies? Where is Valerie Plame, where are those US attorneys? Why are none of these culprits on trial? Lead by example, not by hypocrisy. The world is too small and everyone can see us. When Obama took office, not only here in America, but the whole world set their “hopes” high. But unfortunately, this system of power and corruption has tied his hands and his feet and is not letting him do the job. Let’s stand behind him and give him the power to shake things up instead of believing the lies of the previous administration, the RNC and the lobbyists. We need to take our own country back, not others.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:52 pm | Report abuse |
  68. chamisal

    The real issue is that Karzai is a corrupt, self-serving politician who wants to hang on to power, with all its attendant perks, any way he can. Something with which we here in the U.S. would be all too familiar, if we had all been paying attention for the past several decades.

    Karzai came to power by hitching his star to the invaders; now the invaders have served their purpose and expressed their intention not to hang around until h*** freezes over to keep him in power, so he's pursuing his own interests in a way that makes sense to him. It's an Afghan version of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and there will almost certainly be more of it.

    Let's hope that, in this century, the US finally gets it–not every country wants or is equipped to maintain a political and economic system that looks like ours. Let's hope we all get clear on the fact that ours is circling the drain and a few more years of trying to run the world by killing people and trashing their stuff is going to turn us into Greece.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  69. Jackie B

    We need to get the hell out of Dodge. Our reasons for being over there have become convulted and distorted. We are now trying nothing more than to control this nation by working through its 'established' government. It's time to bring our boys home where they belong with their families.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  70. skomalley

    Haha, oldest trick in the book: blame it on the foreigners. Sad thing is that it will probably work.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  71. Scot Ellis

    Yes by all means blame Obama for this puppet. We are just finsihing up a situation that should have been taken care of in 2001 !

    April 2, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  72. Jon

    *sigh* And it seems that Karzai is Diem all over again. Great. Just fantastic.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  73. Maureen Molleron

    Karzai will cheat and say anything to keep his job. Great perks. He BARELY leaves Kabul, he onnly relates to the Pushtun tribe (sorry if the spelling isn't right). He likes walking around in his cloak and not doing anything! His brother, from what I heard is big drug runner.
    IF,anyone added votes, it's the incumbent who doesn't want to lose his perks!

    April 2, 2010 at 1:11 pm | Report abuse |
  74. Major T

    Hamid Karzai is one half terrorist and one half nut ball. Not sure which one I like the best.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  75. Bob Ramos

    When will Obama finally acknowledge that we are backing a loser and begin the process of withdrawal. Nothing in Afghan is worth the life of another one of our boys/girls.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:03 pm | Report abuse |
  76. Roger

    Time for him to go or for us to go but we should not support this corrupt dictator. Learning from our mistakes is the most important here. Let's not let this continue.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  77. Baboo

    Tim, there is no such thing as a true democracy. all things would need to be voted on by the entire population for that. I get what you're saying, but still nothing true or otherwise regarding democracy.

    Karzai's largest problem it seems is that he has been found out. And in the spot-light he is showing something that the US doesn't want seen, another puppet government setup to forward our interests in a region.

    The US has long held history of propping up a government for the will of US handler's. he gives us the ability to continue un-vett'd operations in his country, without true oversight. This the US Loves. The UN wants to create more oversight, increase presence, and create some sort of order in his country. Part of this is to remove him (rightfully) from the head of government and ensure someone truly elected to power is replacing him. Karzai, being a megalomaniac, isn't going to do this without a fight.

    The US is not going to support that ideal of the UN either because it weakens our presence in the region, undermines our ability to operate outside of US laws. the CIA, nor anyone else directly involved is going to let that happen.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  78. Bob Dog

    We need to get out of Afghanistan. Fast. We will never, ever make a difference over there. Our money is better spent trying to manage Pakistan (given their nuclear arsenal, and adjacency to Afghanistan).

    April 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  79. PATRICK A.

    TIm the idiot
    Do you really think that we are there to fight Talibans,lol
    who do you think the Taliban are, Alien from Mars.
    they are Afghans idiot they will always be there.

    April 2, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  80. Alex Malin

    Is Karzai really as stupid as he sounds or is he going to school to soind ignorant & uneducated? Between the green cape and the bad jokes I'm not sure if he's a pimp, president or wannabee comedian. The only thing tat would be worse for Afghanistan than Karzai it would be to ship George W. Bush and Dick Cheney to retire in te hills of Afghanistan.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  81. keith

    we did have an agenda. 1-killing the al quaeda supporters, ie the taliban. 2-freeing a huge chunk of oppressed people.

    the problem is that too many people in america are afraid to say that our way of life is superior tone that subjugates women. I mean, really, its okay to blame a woman for getting raped? learning to read? hello?

    April 2, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Report abuse |
  82. Abdal-Latif

    The U.S. installed this ridiculous pseudo-democratic dictator in the first place. Now we are reaping what we sowed. Let's just stop pretending, shall we, that Karzai is anything other than an American-controlled puppet dictator who is more the mayor of a couple of cities than a true "president."

    April 2, 2010 at 12:52 pm | Report abuse |
  83. Steve

    Seriously, there are MANY more countries with more readily available resources than Afghanistan, that don't have a history of turning back occupations by world powers. The imperialism argument has no merit.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  84. Mike

    I just thinking of formor president of Pakistan pervez Musharrf , he has always said that Karzia cannot be trusted from the begining , Karzia has always ponted to Pakistan for all the troubles that he and his drug lord brother has created and now he is pointing at USA ,i m glad that atleast some one in this US adminstration paying attention on Karzai not just his lies for other countries..

    April 2, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  85. totally neutral

    --Do you honestly think we want a piece of the opium trade?-
    Damned right 'we' do. Whoever 'we' might be.
    Free elections? Sounds more and more like Viet Nam every day.
    Ronald Reagan's plan to bankrupt the USSR by bogging them down in Afghanistan
    was brilliant. But who is going bankrupt now? It is time to demand an end to this foolishness.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Report abuse |
  86. leecat

    I'm so glad we have a new slogan for Afghanistan, one that defies all of recorded history in its simple elegance: "This time, we'll win."

    April 2, 2010 at 12:44 pm | Report abuse |
  87. Dave

    The Anglo-French-American empire wants to control the sand so they can sell it to Russia & China to make beach front property for the masses. Pass it on – the liberal sheep will believe anything as long as it's on the internet!

    April 2, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  88. Rick

    @Daniel – Actually, no, we are not there because of the "Anglo-French-American empire". We went to Afghanistan initially because of what happened on 9/11. We're still their today because me made promises to not just "cut and run"... something the US and many western countries have done in the Middle East in the past... meet the objective, our objective and leave the country to fend for itself. If you remember back in the early days of our offensive in Afghanistan, when the Afghan people were interviewed, they all thought the US would just be their to serve our own interests and leave them high and dry. The Taliban preached the same thing... that the Americans would not have the resolve to stick through a prolonged occupation. Well, I for one am happy to see we are keeping our end of the bargain. We don't need to push democracy on the country for it to be a success, but we do have an obligation help that country reach its end goal, which is to say, leave it in a better state than living under the virtual "Hell On Earth" that is the rule of the Taliban.

    I think most would question the motives of the US in its war in Iraq, but I honestly believe most should see we are doing what is right in Afghanistan.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Report abuse |
  89. stevenabb

    It is time to GET THIS CORRUPT JERK out of Afghanistan. Does anyone believe he would not immediately side with the Taliban? Stop playing super nice guys with this dictator, GET HIM OUT!!! Otherwise, the entire Afghanistan mission is a wasted effort.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  90. Jason

    Daniel shows an amazing amount of ignorance for someone living in this century. We are in Afghanistan because the former government was harboring a terrorist organization responsible for direct attacks against America on American soil. Iraq is another issue entirely, but Afghanistan was ground zero for Al Qaeda.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  91. LLB

    If Karzai is going to blame the international community of election fraud when the USA spoke up about removing the Election Monitors, he's only got himself to blame. And if he's going to get into bed with Iran – then its time to take our people out of there. Who needs turn coats??? Why are we still there??

    April 2, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  92. TomTom

    No, he actually blamed the UN and America, not foriegners....

    April 2, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Report abuse |
  93. funkyourush

    Anglo-French-American? did you just make that up?

    April 2, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  94. Justin

    Ridiculous. This guy's a snake. He's no more trustworthy and just as corrupt as the Taliban if you ask me. I realize its probably a lesser of two evils situation to have as an ally but frankly the Afghan people deserve a lot better. He'll gladly take my tax dollars and squander them while his country continues to slide to the brink of disaster. But then before the ink on the check is even dry he turns around and wants to bite the hand that feeds him, accusing us of having a hand in election fraud. And take off that stupid hat for once!

    April 2, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  95. Mike

    Get real. If we had wanted to add Afghanistan to our "Empire" we would have done it right after the Soviet Union left.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  96. Thomas Koshy

    The earlier we leave Afghanistan,the better.We have nothing to gain but everything to lose.Only president Ombama can get us out of this mess.Can never trust these people.So let us start the pull out now.

    April 2, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  97. Rick McDaniel

    LOL. Now we know he is totally corrupt.

    April 2, 2010 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  98. lou

    8 years, numerous dead kids, and billions of our tax dollars down this cesspool, and the vcorrupt head of state whose ass we protect has the audacity to bitch? oh, i forgot; we're supposed to roll over and take it as usual. REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!

    April 2, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  99. Tim

    Is it possible that we are trying to help set up an actaul democracy rather than some of mockery where whoever happens to be in power is able to cheat his way through elections? Why the hell would we want to add Afghanistan to the "Anglo-French-American" Empire? I'll give you that motives in Iraq are suspect at best, but theres NOTHING in Afghanastan to plunder. Do you honestly think we want a piece of the opium trade? There may be natural gas and oil there, but there is no infastructure to get it.

    April 2, 2010 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  100. Daniel

    Why should any of us be surprised? After all,isn't the reason for our being there so that we can control Afghanistan and make it part of the Anglo-French-American empire?

    April 2, 2010 at 8:32 am | Report abuse |
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