December 4th, 2009
09:48 AM ET

Russia wants U.S. surge on Afghan drugs

Some say the vast poppy fields are the real killers from Afghanistan. U.S. forces patrol some of them, but these days the fields are rarely destroyed - it's seen as counterproductive, driving farmers into the arms of the Taliban.

But to many, the carnage caused by the heroin from these crops - which has increased dramatically since the Taliban were overthrown - is far worse than any roadside bomb.

And one country feels it's bearing the brunt - Russia.

There, addiction to Afghan heroin has become epidemic – it's estimated to have between one and a half and 6 million addicts, mostly fuelled by a flood of narcotics from the Afghan war zone.

And it's deadly - medical officials say overdoses kill 80 people in Russia every day, and users are fuelling the spread of HIV.

Now Russian authorities are calling on the United States to use its new surge of forces in Afghanistan to tackle growing drug production there.

"In my opinion, international community and international forces, once they take on the responsibility of creating future for Afghanistan, must understand that without terminating its drug industry, it will be difficult to create a working, democratic society in Afghanistan," says Viktor Ivanov of Russia's Federal Drug Control Service.

Ivanov suggests the poppy fields be defoliated with herbicides. U.S. officials say they've tried eradication, but that targeting drug labs and encouraging farmers to grow alternative crops is more effective.

The burgeoning Afghan drug trade has fuelled even more serious tensions between Moscow and Washington, with Russia accusing the United States and its NATO allies of doing "next to nothing" in Afghanistan to curb it.  With significantly more troops on the ground, Russian officials say they hope the U.S. will soon start making a difference.

For the moment, Russia is struggling to stem the flow of drugs through its southern borders - destroying what heroin is seized. But officials say the drug routes through Central Asia are too vast to secure, and that it's the source of the heroin - in Afghanistan - that has to be destroyed.

MORE: CNN's Diana Magnay talks to filmmaker Mehran Bozorgnia, who captured dramatic footage of the Afghan heroin trade.

soundoff (208 Responses)
  1. Isaac Harrison

    sometimes it is quite difficult to recover from alcohol abuse. ~**

    July 10, 2010 at 5:45 am | Report abuse |
  2. Phumlani

    It's about time Russia contributed positively in the fight against terror...secure its border and hopefully limit the flow of poppy and illegal arms from within its borders. It's ironic that Macho Putin who continues to run Russia is not showing a brave face and the "superpower" attitude he always displays and crush these druggies.
    Until Russia joins the international fight against terror, they should expect that the drug problem will continue in his country. You cannot have it both ways Mr Putin.

    December 5, 2009 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |
  3. ed

    sorry folks i do not feel russia has any say in this war.this war may have a little to do with the poppy production but the U.S.'s and nato being in afghanistan is about terrorism and an attack on U.S.'s soil. if russia has a problem with opium then it suck's to be them!

    December 5, 2009 at 8:34 am | Report abuse |
  4. Subrata Datta

    The Russians would rather expect other countries to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for them then do it themselves. That way they don't get to spend a ruble. If those 80 lives lost every day in Russia due to drug OD means anything to Putin & Medvedev then they ought to take positive steps to eradicate the poppy fields in Afghanistan.

    Maybe the Russians have not forgotten 1989 when they had to flee Afghanistan and would not even want to set foot there ever again for fear of another drubbing a case of once bitten twice shy.

    December 5, 2009 at 12:11 am | Report abuse |
  5. Allan B.

    CNN may not post this...we'll see...

    "Allan, you are an either an ignorant horses rear end or trying to push buttons." ....
    "You are just ilk of the old anti-establishment crowd of losers. Or are you a druggie wanting to discredit the US Government? What a jerk you are".
    "Only a stupid individual of your uneducated stature

    The denagrading name calling says it all. In fact, none of what you say applies to me. I have a university education, have been a productive and helpful citizen and have worked with people with addictions of various kinds.

    Here is a good example, and there are many more, of the types of fallacies that the war on drugs has been based on....

    ----–
    from

    (Starkey, 1971:482-84)1

    The lesson to be learned from "Soldier's Disease" involves four linked hypotheses, phrased as fact, which form a paradigm justifying today's U.S. Drug policy. This paradigm is:

    Free access to opiates sooner or later breeds a massive use of opiates.

    Widespread use of opiates leads to a lot of addicts.

    Addiction is long-term, often enough, forever.

    Addiction is a publicly manifest problem.

    In sum, free availability leads to a social problem.

    The historical record shows, however, that Soldier's Disease is a fanciful reconstruction of the past by writers I 00 years or more after the Civil War. There was not, to my knowledge, a single mention of Soldier's Disease, Army Disease, or any other sobriquet referring to addicted veterans, until a half -century after the Civil War; not one addict was noted in any writing or statistic compiled during or immediately after the Civil War; and reports of addicted veterans who began using during that War are only rarely mentioned throughout the rest of the 19th Century.

    Soldier's Disease is a modern creation that has very little to do with the facts of 19th Century drug use. Rather, it is an idea which fits, which shores up, modern drug policies. It is an assertion about what opiates are supposed to do, applied to a past situation.
    ---–
    I have no doubt you are likely a decent, well meaning person and likely a Christian (if so did you forget judge not....), but you have not idea what type of person I am, and name calling or putting me down down may seem to bolster a claim or point (similar to an ad hominem argument), it does not make it valid. It may even say more about the speaker than the target.

    Ad Hominem means....

    Person 1 makes claim X
    There is something objectionable about Person 1
    Therefore claim X is false

    December 4, 2009 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  6. NNVA

    Allan, you are an either an ignorant horses rear end or trying to push buttons. I have seen your dreamy type for decades high on conspiracy theories and inventing intrigue where it doesn't exist. Only a stupid individual of your uneducated stature would compare heroin addiction and related crime to tobacco and alcohol abuse, which are indeed repulsive but not even in the same league. You really have no idea of what you are talking about. You are just ilk of the old anti-establishment crowd of losers. Or are you a druggie wanting to discredit the US Government? What a jerk you are.

    December 4, 2009 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  7. Chris

    This type of plan, destroying the crop, has not worked since the US has been in South America with the cocaine industry. What makes Russia, and the US (if they decide to pursue the Russian plan) think that this will work there. I agree that our current plan may not be the best immediate action, however teaching the farmers to utilize thier land for the good and making sure that is stays profitable is the best plan that exists. Lets not bring our never ending war on drugs to that part of the world.

    December 4, 2009 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  8. Jude

    Sometime back their was a documentary showing Afghanistan's poppy fields, with the farmers tending to their crops. The idea of growing other [legal] crops has already been tried, apparently with poor results. They couldn't sell their crops and make any kind of profit. And they aren't the ones making the big bucks from their poppy production. In addition, they too become addicted because of their constant exposure while nicking the flower heads.

    It's really too bad no one with any clout watched this program. ***One farmer they interviewed said he could make much more if he could grow saffron... if only he could afford to buy the bulbs. Saffron is the world's most expensive spice. This seasoning costs anywhere from $500 to $5,000 a pound!!!!! Just imagine what could be accomplished by providing Afghan farmers with enough saffron bulbs so they wouldn't need to grow poppies for heroin production!

    My initial response to this article was that the Russians need to send troops too if they feel so strongly about this, but then I realized how this would never work. It would be like the US being asked to put troops in Viet Nam again... for obvious reasons, it's not going to happen. Still, Russia could make their contribution by way of financial support.

    December 4, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Andy

    I have been a advocate for some time for asking the russian to join us and invade afghanistan , however there are many problems with this. 1.) The afgahn government nor its people are liable to trust the russians 2.) The russians were driven out by a US al qaeda allaince (they were known as the mujahadeen then) 3.) the farmers make their living out of this without the taliban would have the lure money to get them on their side.

    i think we should buy the opium from them and destroy it

    December 4, 2009 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  10. Deby

    It is embarrassing, but drug trade in Afghanistan increased drastically under NATO occupation, despite numerous commitments to eradicate it. As the neighboring country, Russians have the right to be concerned about the situation. Obviously they cannot send their military inside Afghanistan, while NATO forces are occupying it. Also, judging by the drug war in Columbia, military solution is not be the answer. And how said that did not offer any help?

    http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/russia-wants-help-afghanistan

    I understand that liberals on CNN don’t care about young Russian people dying from the drugs grown with our blessings, but perhaps they should care about our reputation or what is left of it. As an occupying force we have certain responsibilities, and we are miserably failing. As an American citizen I am discussed that we are doing nothing to stop the drug trade and might be even profiting from it.

    December 4, 2009 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  11. Allan B.

    NNVA, you commented "All you nay-sayers make me sick. Does it really matter who's kids are getting strung out on Afgan opium? They are all the same, and the pain for the parents, family, and society is the same no matter which country you call home."

    You need to educate yourself.

    Fact: The harmful affects of alcohol and tobacco are greater than all the illegal drugs combined. Research has shown this to be true, try doing some research and look at information from all sides.

    Fact: The war on drugs was based on racism and lies. Check into the history of drug prohibition, case in point is the lies that went into he movie "Reefer Madness" which was used by the government and other organizations to mislead people into supporting their bs.

    Fact: the money wasted in the war on drugs would be better served helping people with addictions and in education

    Fact: the war on drugs is killing thousands of people, people who otherwise might be alive. As per the previous point they would also have resources to get out of drugs, as opposed to sending teen and young adult users to jail. Wow that sure helps them get a leg up.

    Blind and ignorant bias's continue to keep us mired in the ugliness of this supposed war on drugs. If there was not market for Afghani opium they would switch to other crops. A sSimple solution that require courage, something that is as severely lacking today as it has always been.

    Fact

    December 4, 2009 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Andrew

    FYI, US planes fly daily over Russian territory to bring supplies to OUR troops. And back in 2001 Russia allowed US to use its military bases in the Central Asia and provided a lot of intelligence. Yes, they did not get much credit for doing this on CNN, which speaks volumes about the quality of the news we are getting here (and elsewhere for that matter). Anybody who is not on drugs should understand that Russia cannot send troupes now, although, I personally would trade all NATO military assistance for the Russian one. Russians are a lot of things, but they are not cowards.

    The article glosses over the fact that we are actively participating in the opium trade over there. And now we are sending more young people to die for it. I expected more from Obama.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  13. jim bob

    We need to increase poppy production and processing, and flood the Russian markets. A dirty trick I admit, but will open russia's eyes. Either get on board with deterring a nuclear Iran, or focus your attention on your afghan drug problem.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  14. NNVA

    All you nay-sayers make me sick. Does it really matter who's kids are getting strung out on Afgan opium? They are all the same, and the pain for the parents, family, and society is the same no matter which country you call home. Anything that will stop the drugs is beneficial to the whole world. The person who becomes the scientist or doctor who saves your worthless life may be the one we kept from becoming an addict in youth. You idiots don't realize this is a global problem, affecting the whole planet equally. But, we cannot do it alone. If Russia is willing to help, OK, lets let them in with open arms.. Just remember, this is not just a Russian problem, it's everyone's problem who buys or produces anything from a microgram to a ton of dope – you are the ones destroying civilization. History proves that youth are incapable of making adult decisions supported by many studies and empirical evidence. We do have to cut off the head of the dragon, and remove all the dealers and distributors from society, with public examples and punishment if we expect to succeed. Or do we consider ourselves too civilized and humane to do what we must do to stop this scourge once and for all? To all you gutless "pseudo-intellectuals" of the younger generation, take this to task and see if you can heal society yourselves. Let the military deal with the big problems.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  15. my2cents

    strategy should be 3 fold:

    (1) americans / russians stop consuming the drug
    (2) american / russian military train farmers on growing new crops for local consumption and export while physically protecting them from the Taliban and Russian /American mafia who benefit from the drug trade and dont want this to happen
    (3) NATO work out a trade agreement with Afganastan (?spelling) that allows them to successfully export the "new" crops for consumption by Americas/Russians

    Note: harsh chemical erradication of the plants might pollute the soil in a way that might make it harder to grow new and less-destructive crops; also fund research on what other things the heroin producing crops can be used for – just like the hemp plant can produce cloth and other things perhaps there are similar uses for this plant which can aid a transition to a better crop; they are already masters at growing it why not leverage what they are doing it and spin the production so that its a beneficial thing to the poeple involved.

    @ Francisco – Colombian farmers dont generally give up thier farms to drug traders... from my expereince they are usually extorted, driven out with threats of rape to their women and children, and more often than not executed and their lands taken away from them... and ironically enough the "paramilitaries" who sometimes aid in this are most of the time just trying to hold a job to be able to feed their families – and they dont get paid on a regular basis or continuous basis... vicous cycle... i wonder if the people who consume cocaine knowing that it is produced in an environment worst that any 'sweatshop' harming both the natives and the land will consider this product to be a little less glamorous...???

    December 4, 2009 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  16. j.Browning

    hay i am all for it lets clean out the drugs.Russia can handle that while we do the re
    I would hate to see Russia get there little hands a little dirty

    December 4, 2009 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  17. Bryan

    I think Russia has a point. I think Russia should pony up some resources to help if they feel passionately about it. But I think the former Soviet General's comments in a recent CNN article are correct. These people will shake your hand while their buddy stabs you in the back. There is no winning the hearts and minds of these people. They have no honor in their word.

    We've met the mission. The Taliban are no longer a governing body, they are an underground terrorist organization. Traditional military forces are not designed to fight a guerrilla war while being governed by rules the other side doesn't follow. The only way to stop an insurgency of people like this is to kill them all and that's not politically feasible. They hold their local population in fear so there is no cooperation to be found there. Even if there were, they would turn on you as soon as it suits them.

    Handling the people of Afghanistan and Iraq is like handling a snake. It will let you hold it and interact with it as long as it suits them, and for no apparent reason, it will turn and bite you. Sooner or later, you realize it's less painful to kill the snake or let it go about it's business but ensure you keep it the hell away from you. These farmers know they are growing drug crops that kill millions of people all over the world. They don't care because they look at taking care of their families first. They obviously don't care about killing our families so I say we follow their model and take care of our families first. Wipe the fields off the face of the earth and you might find you kill the insurgent snake in the process. Offer help but don't demand it be accepted. If it's not, they starve. I wouldn't trade one Russian or American, or any other family for a town of poppy growing Afgans.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  18. David

    If we take Afghan drugs from Afghanistan they will effectively have no industry. Afghanistan is one of the most impoverished nations in the world, considered to be one of the top five candidates for civil unrest due to food supply and if it wasn't for the drugs they sell they would be even worse off. Growing food crops would be a good start but it would not bridge the monetary gap (especially if the Taliban still wants a cut of the profits). Really, I don't see a good solution yet and I believe Russia is the absolute last person to complain about anything related to Afghanistan. They are a major reason for Afghanistan’s resentment toward us, they are the reason the drug trade is huge (they all but destroyed that country and its infrastructure) and with their violent war they have all but sealed Afghanistan's perception of any occupying forces.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:27 am | Report abuse |
  19. kevin

    there is no point in destroying the crops...someone else, somewhere else, will just start growing them again. the potential cash for crop is just too large.

    the answer is to legalize and tax drugs (i have never done drugs so that is not my reasoning). the drug market will crash as prices drop, which will lead to a huge drop in crime (read history about prohibition in the US), and a HUGE financial gain will be made.

    tax dollars on alcohol and cigarettes is huge...add marijuana, cocaine, heroin, etc. and imagine the tax revenue. too many people are concerned with the "morality" of legalizing drugs but don't see that reducing crime – including murder, kidnapping, assualt, etc is certainly high in morality and will outweigh the "immorality" of drugs.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  20. Mike

    Why don't the Russians join the US in an unprecedented fight against the drug trade in Afghanistan.. WOW, what a concept.. the U.S. and the Russia working together for the common good of the wold and NOT AGAINST each other.................................for once.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:17 am | Report abuse |
  21. Jim Little

    Quid pro quo. The U.S. now has another bargaining chip. It will be interesting to see what Russia offers after they finish this initial posturing.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:14 am | Report abuse |
  22. nickj

    putin should worry about the addiction of his people, and not the election in Ukraine in Jan.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
  23. Jeffrey

    For all the people who say Russia should send troops this is the reason why they are angry and are not sending troops...

    America started two wars that it can't win (Iraq has not been won and neither will Afghanistan) in a region that is in close proximity to the Russian border. When their is mass murder in a country borders on a daily basis, lawlessness will ensue and will result in problems pouring into neighboring countries. The problem here is the drug trade, which is fueled by corruption in Afghanistan and daily chaos (including murders, drug addiction, and hopelessness) from the war. The lawlessness will give a huge boost to illegal activities and their ability to be successful, hence Russia being pissed that America is indirectly boosting the drug cartels in the area and within its borders.

    Its quite simple why Russia is pissed and very reluctant to add to the fire/conflict. Russia previously learned why not to mess with a country with no central government (isolated tribal groups make up the governance of the nation) and why it should protect its own borders and use its finances for its own people instead of draining all its resources on a war that will take decades to accomplish because of the isolation of the people in Afghanistan and the difficulty to communicate a message across a nation like it.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  24. Jimmy John

    You folks going on about how we just just eradicate heroin in Afghanistan aren't paying any attention to the article or the reality of the situation. You're talking about an A to Z argument while leaving out the other 24 letters.

    Just what do you think will happen if you take away a people's sole income? Do you think it's actually a good idea to use herbicide on precious arrable land? The taliban would really appreciate it, since that would bolster their ranks without a doubt.

    Eventually something needs to be done, but just maybe if we wouldn't have been led on an obvious wild goose chase into Iraq to create yet another power vacuum we need to watch over, we'd have had the resources to drive out the Taliban for good in Afghanistan in a LOT less time. We could've been spending more time finding alternative and less destructive crops (and other sources of income via development) for the Afghan people.

    This is an extremely complicated part of the world (not to say it's really all that simply anywhere). Any simple answer is almost always going to be completely useless or worse. Think of the world as a house of cards instead of a bunch of disconnected boxes with a single problem in each.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:10 am | Report abuse |
  25. elizabeth

    There is no power on earth nor army large enough that will solve the problem of epidemic demand for drugs of any kind-be it Meth or Heroin-except a world that is more attractive than the unreality of drugs,a self respect that is stonger than peer pressure-hope for the future and a love of life, a life worth loving. The same method of offering a more attractive alternative to growers of poppies also applies to the users of poppies-The power is in the hands of parents–the power is in the home-not NATO-armies-or prison terms.Supply and demand-stopping the demand -stops the profit in supply–The power to stop the demand is in the hands of us all– the people.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  26. Kevin

    I agree with the Russians. Destroy the poppy fields. They need to have a unit that is dedicated to destroying poppy fields. That is all they do, nothing more, nothing less. Then they need a unit dedicated to teaching Afghans good farming techniques. Teach them how to grow food.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  27. Erl Purnell

    How about a strategy whereby the US buys the poppy crop in Afghanistan for $X more than the going price. After all, it's about money and business. We destroy the crop. Buy it again next year, etc. Outcomes: A) We subsidize Afghan agriculture and put money into the community; B) We eliminate the primary source of heroin; C) We become partners with the people (farmers & merchants); D) We spend far less than paying for a fighting war and we use a portion of the savings to build schools and drill wells. After the poppy purchasing relationship is well established (5 years? 10?), we transition and say the crop we really need is XYZ and then we pay the same or more than we paid for the poppy crop. Surely billions invested. But also, even more billions saved, not to mention thousands of lives.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  28. Jack

    Hey Russia! Get off your butts and send some forces over! It can only help you as well. When is the world going to wake up and help us tackle this problem with these radicals? If they did, it would be over much sooner. Whatever, Russia!

    December 4, 2009 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  29. Duke

    Russia realizes the unwinnable war aspect of fight in Afghanistan; something the Obama administration has yet not figured out. Thinking that Russia would make the same mistake twice would be the same as asking the US to return to Vietnam....bad idea! Wind down this failed effort and get out of Afghanistan!

    December 4, 2009 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  30. S-Man

    Maybe Russia should help America with Iran before they bitch about us not helping in Afganistan.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  31. Bill Lewis

    I have to agree with many who have stated that the issue with Russia sending in troops is that it would cause issues not only with their public but also with the public in Afghanistan. Remember the Russians were looked at as invaders and were not very well liked in the 80's so sending in troops could cause issues.

    That said I would be curious to know (I could look it up right now but I have to leave for work shortly) how much Russia is aiding NATO financially in it's efforts in Afghanistan. It may well be that they are already helping, if they are not they should.

    That said rather than destroying the Poppy fields which would cause serious harm to the farmers why not simply redirect what the Poppies are used for? The same opiates that are used to make Heroin are also used to make Morphine, and a number of other pain medications. That is why it is so easy for someone taking Morphine to become addicted and many will begin self medicating with Heroin and other opiates.

    So why don't we put some time/money toward focusing on having them start using the Poppy production for medical use rather than narcotic use? Seems to me to be a win/win.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:05 am | Report abuse |
  32. John

    Thats fine let Russia help out they can be in charge of that part of this foolish war

    December 4, 2009 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  33. Loren Carr

    I say burn the fields.....burn them, and then plant crops that are beneficial to mankind and not destructive!!!!!!!

    December 4, 2009 at 11:02 am | Report abuse |
  34. Kenneth Pennington

    That is the Red, White, and Blue–destroy drugs when it is to their benefit; allow the proliferation of drugs when it is to their benefit. America's issue is not drugs, it is the systematic torture of the young and minorities.

    December 4, 2009 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  35. Brenda

    In response to the post saying "It is ridiculous that Russia should accuse us of not solving THEIR problem. We have our reasons there. If you need something done, don't expect it to come from our losses." This person is out of touch with America if she thinks heroin is strictly a problem within Russia. Heroin is also an epidemic in America that is killing more of our young people than any other substance. Please let's do something about the heroin that is flowing out of Afghanistan.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  36. Marcelo

    Perhaps Nato and the US should buy the opium directly from the farmers, make a deal where they would pay for their production as long as half of their land is used for other crops, and pay for the other crop the same amount they would for the opium, this way, they get money directly into the hands of of the afghani population, which is mostly agrarian, and create a program that would replace the opium crop with legitimate crops over a period of time. This would allow the farmers to gain the money needed to purchase seeds and fertilizers, and transition into legitimate crops, keep the reconstruction money from all the corrupt middle-men in the goverment and provide an incentive for those young people who are now joining the Taliban (the 10 dollar Taliban) to rejoin society by providing them with an alternative, legitimate, source of income. I would think that this strategy would be more cost effective than the current strategy, which not only creates more enemies out of the population, but also creates a distrust in the central government which is currently siphoning the aid money into their own pockets and keeps the reconstruction money away from the Afghani people.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  37. stumpta

    WOW! I can't believe that they are saying that? Really? "Just take care of this problem while your there...I am just to busy to do it right now"

    December 4, 2009 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
  38. Chad

    Really? Russia must be joking to tell the USA what to do with our forces in Afghanistan, Maybe if Russia wants help with their drug problem they should send some of their own troops to get rid of the drugs. All the while Russia sells weapons and technology to Iran to fight the US. I am so sick of these two faced leaders who say one thing to the cameras and do the opposite when the cameras aren't looking. Too bad Russia, deal with your problems in Afghanistan we've got enough of our on stuff to deal with over there.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
  39. Comon sense

    Who does the states think they are to feel that all countrys must unite to fight personal wars that they feel is a threat to their country. A actual treat to american is not afeghany drugs but drugs sold in any city in the states, not afeghany terrorist but gangsters criminals that kill millions more then terrorist in the states or the expensive health system that kills more millions, No body knows where Bin Laden is located or if he is even alife, this war is a war without end because even if they kill all alquaeda and taliban in 5 years in afeghanistan and pakistan, more non terrorist people that hate americans will be send to fight in the front lines of this war. The afeghany military cant be trained to secure their country because they are all on on drugs and they dont care (the russians have tried for many years), millions of american and alied soldiers already died in this war and will continue to die for a stupid war, As Obama stated he doesnt trust he current president to take over the contry when they live. Whats gonna happen is that as soon as the troops leave the country corruption will take place again just like what happened after the russians left afeghanistan. Iraq never had nuclear weapons, and the number of roadside bombs were greater then before the war had started. My conclussion is the States got their butt kicked in Vietnam, North Korea, Iraq and Afeghanistan for reasons the presidents thought was reasonable and nothing was ever solved. We are in 2009 ,dont you think its time for the American Government take care of bigger issues that kill more americans like helath system, criminality and drugs in the states instead of fighting wars that kill more americans, get other countrys to hate the states and make the states look like fools fighting in international soil?

    December 4, 2009 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  40. send money

    Send the meth addicts to Arkansas.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  41. send money

    We can tolerate the pot heads.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  42. send money

    Then all the cocaine addicts to Columbia.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  43. send money

    Send all the heroin addicts to Afghanistan.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  44. Lance

    I agree....let's take out the fields while we're there, create lots of goodwill with Russia and use their influence with the Iranian nuclear situation.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  45. Max Stentor

    May be anyone who calls for Russian troops in Afganstian has a very short memory...
    Russians/USSR were in Afganistan for very long, Things could be very differen if it would not be for 'wise' American foreign politics resulting in funneling billions of dollars to al-jihadi 'holy freedom fighters' like Osama supplying them with state of the art Stinger missiles and so on. US nurtured the islamic extremist snake that bit US back. Not to forget who supplied Saddam with the chemical weapons and other 'unnoficial' help in the war with Iran.
    Long story short. Russia has been always supporting anti-taliban coalition – Northen Alliance way before 911. When again the US was in full support of Pakistan and hence Taliban too... Who do you think provide intelligence information? Who sends equipment, guns and so on to Afgan army? Mostly Russian/Soviet made. Heroin is Global Problem not Russia's alone. From the money made out of heroin trade taliban receives huge financial help. Which will keep them fighting for years to come.
    I wish I could have a possible solution but I think the easiest one is: Pay Pay Pay farmers not to grow, pay afganis not to fight. May be cheaper could be genocide but we are living in a civilised world now.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  46. Scott

    More land is now used for opium in Afghanistan, than for coca cultivation in Latin America. In 2007, 93% of the opiates on the world market originated in Afghanistan. Although less than 4 percent of arable land in Afghanistan was used for opium poppy cultivation in 2006, revenue from the harvest brought in over $3 billion—more than 35 percent of the country's total gross national product (GNP).

    In Afghanistan the "Southern region" of Helmand and Kandahar provinces, on the border with Pakistan, are the highest-volume areas for drug transactions. There is a traditional route from Helmand, through Pakistan, to Iran.

    So to sum things up; Afghans need poopy culitavation just to get by and Pakistan is complacent as the highest volume drug route. In other words its very important to our "allies" to peddle drugs.

    Take the drugs away and the whole local economy collapses. I bet the Taliban have food though.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
  47. John Doe

    Mr. Putin, Do you wear womens underwear??? I bet you do, late at night when no one is watching...

    December 4, 2009 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
  48. Eric, DC

    This is commical...Our guys are getting killed and the Russians want us to solve their drug problems. First of all its a concious choice to be a drug user, so educate your people on that issue. Second, thats not our mission in Afghanistan, and though its the 3rd poorest country in the world, the number 1 most important part of their economy is the poppi fileds. We'll send the country into more chaos if we wipe this out now, it has to be the Afghan government with interational pressure to get this done over time. We've got our own drug problems with Mexico, so we know how the Russians feel, but we don't ask someone else to take care of it. And I love the Russian contigency on this blog, trying to make the case and crying about 20+ years ago...Guess what...we hated each other 25 years ago, we were mortal enemies, of course we're not going to help you. And we're not exactly allies now, so put up or shut up.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
  49. ted

    If we pulled all troops from Afghanistan the Taliban will attack someone again. They need war ,they love war , and will always be at war with someone . i've know this for years its about the opium they need there doors open in every way they can . We just had 3 U.S. Army men with opium moving it to Canada.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  50. rdrcer

    wake up people! we close to 50,000 troops in Afghan, and who knows how many drone planes. The poppies aren't over the country, the majority are in a few river valleys. The U.S could wipe out all the farms in a couple of weeks.

    The US doesn't need additonal Russian troops to accomplish wiping out the poppies. There are two reasons they aren't wiped out. 1) like said already, the farmers would join the Taliban and fight the US if they don't have a means to support their families, 2) someone in the Afghan or US is taking bribes from the Taliban.

    I would like to add that Russia is in shambles. Their youth have no future because the communist regime has ruined capitalism; the Russian youth in turn just look for a cheap high. If it isn't cheap vodka, then theyll turn to cheap heroin, and if the poppy fields are eradicated, they will go back to cheap vodka and sniffing glue. Shame on Russia's economists!

    December 4, 2009 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  51. Mek0

    Is it not sweet for Russia to have an opinion on issues like Afghanistan??
    Thanks to God that America under Obama will not use Force but continue to be subttle, not lift a gun but will rally men of power and goodwill to work in the same front against common problems. Russia didn't take this humble step toward the last administration. Wisdom is known by its children. America is being trusted again by potential "enemies".
    We didn't enjoy this level of cooperation during the last 8 years. Goodwill and respect do reward fastly.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
  52. Joe Sena

    It's easy to say that the Russians should just send in troops, but imagine how we'd feel if the Russians demanded that we go into Vietnam and help them stabilize that place just a short while after they got us kicked out? How enthusiastically would we greet the notion of sending troops back there?

    As most things of this nature take place out of the public eye, one would imagine that Russia and the US are already talking about this, and that stories such as the above are a way to warm up their own public to the idea.

    Yes, it would be cool to see Russia and the US uniting to eliminate a true threat via a 2-front pincer attack like the old days.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:40 am | Report abuse |
  53. Rafael

    Ok... Good points and bad points keep being made. The answer is not that we need or even want Russia to get involved in this war. Quite the opposite we need Russia to stop trying to make money by selling Avtomat Kalashnikovas, RPGs, and other military weapons to foreign countries, which include Afghanistan. Further, people who believe that by destroying these fields we will stop the funding that is going to Al Qaueda are a bunch of idiots! First of all, if they really want to produce poppy plants they will do it even if we start destroying the countries crop potential, which by the way is a BAD IDEA! Second of all, the majority of their funding doesn't come from the drug trade but from Islamist fundamentalist all over the world who contribute money to the Jihad. Don't forget about the Billionare who is constantly infusing money into this holly war, Mr, bin Laden. Again I reiterate my previous point, focus on winning this war and conserving lives and money by taking one province at a time like the plans are already in set in place to do and forget about the war on drugs which will never be solved untill the day people stop using.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  54. John

    why all the hatred towards each other. americans do hate anyone who is not them. sad.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  55. great idea

    Lol @ whoever wrote "send 100,000 russians from the north and 100,000 nato from the south". Great plan.... hey I've got another one, maybe they can build a wall right through the east and west afterwards.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
  56. djcohen

    Can't we plant some kudzu in the poppy fields...and let it take over?

    December 4, 2009 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  57. Meks

    Is it not sweet for Russia to have an opinion in issues like Afghanistan??
    Thanks to God that America under Obama will not use Force but continue to be subtle, not lift a gone but will rally men of power and goodwill to work in the same front against common problems. Russia didn't take this humble step toward the last administration. Wisdom is know by its children. America is being trusted again by potential "enemies".
    We didn't enjoy this level of cooperation during the last 8 years. Goodwill and reapect do reward fastly.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  58. daniel

    These Russians! Too much VODKA in there heads! Why does it have to be the Job of the US to do this, you have a problem fix it your self. Especially that Russia could send some troops to help end this never ending war. Its time to deploy the Red conscribes back into action. hehehehhee

    December 4, 2009 at 10:33 am | Report abuse |
  59. Noel

    Crazy PUTIN. Why don't you help by sending troops to SPECIFICALLY help combat the drug problem? At least, we will know you're not a LOSER like your're being portrayed in the Western media.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  60. ginsengjohn

    Don't forget about China and its ownership of the big Copper deposits South of Kabul. Let them send troops to protect their assets. I don't feel we should fight and die to protect Chinas stuff!!!!!

    December 4, 2009 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  61. NJW

    Send some troops and help out if you want to have some kind of expectations for the United States in Afghanistan. Typical of nations all around the world, expect so much but contribute soo little. RIDICULOUS

    December 4, 2009 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  62. Pitgunner

    a lot of you don't know what you are talking about. People that think detroying the farmers poppy crops are going to help are not thinking. If you destroy these peoples livelyhood then they are going to end up joining the ranks of people we are try to wipe out.

    We can not destroy their poppy fields because in afgahnistan this is as common a way of life as growing corn is in the US.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  63. artur

    You guys are foolish or blind. America has a vested interest in allowing Afgans to continue growing that crop. One it curbs Russian sphere of influence in that area, two it pushes Russia down with drugs. Oh and by the way, if Russia did send troops, you think Nato would say gee thanks ok now go destroy the only crop that brings Afgans some money. Since the days of the Russian Afgan war the American government has been responsible for this.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
  64. Putin's KGB Antics Continue

    The Soviet Union failed, but Putin and his Russian gangsters continue with a similar tone. The Russian government is absurd. The anti-west drum is banging loudly in Moscow. It appears the post-cold war euphoria that intoxicated our baby boom, idealistic politicians in the '90's is over. Too bad our CIA has been internationally scorned by President Obama. Bad timing because we need a genuine covert intelligence agency as much now as ever.
    This latest Russian ploy is only the beginning.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
  65. Benson Martin

    I said far in front of any annoucnement that President Obama needed to pull both China and Russia into the fight in Afghanistan; divide the country into thirds and eradicate the problem, by all means necessary. Those countries are battling the same terrorists there as we are, as evidenced by last week's train derailment in Russia. Neither the Taliban nor Al-Quada could stand up to three superpowers, and a true victory would be won. Also, China and Russia can more easily turn a deaf ear to what their citizens have to say about whether or not they need to be there.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  66. Mark

    Destroy the damn poppie plants, but let the farmers grow pot.Seems like a no-brainer to me...

    December 4, 2009 at 10:25 am | Report abuse |
  67. Jeff

    Who is Russia to tell the United States anything? They cannot even manage to keep their own country fed and they were in Afghanistan already and got beat to a pulp until they left the country and now they want to blame their woes and problems with drugs on us? What a joke! Patton should have been allowed to march onward and make Russia part of the United States when he had the chance. They haven't even sent anyone since we were attacked on 9-11 but they want to sit in their chairs and tell us how to fight a war where we loose innocent young men and women everyday. If they had any guts they would start at their own doorsteps and clean their own country of drugs and track them back to their origins and spank the hell out of whomever is supplying them. For the drug addicts that are there as well as in the United States, they would be on their own when it came to any sort of medical help. Long live the United States and what it was founded on. We need to get back to the grass roots of how we got here and stop worrying about who we may offend. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

    December 4, 2009 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  68. Роберт

    To our Russian friends: Решение проблемы героина России: Сначала, легализуйте героин. Тогда оцените и соберите Налог на добавленную стоимость в каждом пункте сделки. Покройте стоимость пользователей героина и дилеров героина. Или Разрушьте рынок. Отравите захваченный героин, и возвратите это на рынок, таким образом дилеры и пользователи не знают то, что – хороший героин или плохой героин.

    Translations:Solution to Russia's heroin problem: First, legalize heroin. Then assess and collect Value Added Tax at each point of the transaction. Cover the cost of heroin users and heroin dealers. Or Destroy the market. Poison the captured heroin, and return it to the market, so dealers and users don't know what is good heroin or bad heroin.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  69. Bob

    Russia sending troops would be a VERY BAD idea. The Afghans still have a lot of scars from the previous occupation; it would drive many of them to join the Taliban.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  70. Benji

    The Russians seem to be doing well enough destroying themselves on vodka. I don't think cutting back on the flow of heroin will make that big of a difference.

    How about we close the northern routes into the Stans and Russia and clear a corridor into Iran. Given Iran's recent domestic fragility, the introduction of heroin should push them over the edge. That solves two problems at once...

    December 4, 2009 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  71. Watching

    Why would Russia want to assist the U.S. in Afghanistan? It would be stupid for them to shed their blood for this country. Russia doesn't want its soldiers dying in place of Americans. The two are rivals, if not actual enemies.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:19 am | Report abuse |
  72. Justin

    They should come to Afghanistan and do it themselves. They don't necessarily have to have significant 'boots on the ground', they could send a contingent of troops whose sole purpose is eradicating poppy plants. I'm sure NATO and the US would be willing to let the Russians participate. Just because Russia got spanked there in the 80s doesn't mean they can sit on the sidelines and demand NATO take care of their problems.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
  73. Allan Beveridge

    The war on drugs has and always will be the wrong war and a complete waste of resources. Prohibition doesn't work, it needs to be made a medical issue. Drug dealers and gangs are fueled by money, and as long as the drugs are illegal the price goes up as do profits. There is always someone to fill in the gap because demand isn't being curbed. The lessons of prohibition seem to be lost on people. Drug use will go down not up. The government should look at the research instead of clinging to the lies and outdated thinking that led to this war in the first place.

    What a person does in their own home is their business, and we have rules and laws to deal with impairment now. If you are intoxicated behind the wheel of a car, you go to jail ditto for drugs. Too stoned at work...fired.

    The war on drugs will never end, and we continue to throw good money after bad. However, it keeps the money flowing to police and prisons, and is used by politicians to promote their bogus agenda's and gain votes. It inflames passions, but the wrong ones.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  74. Mitch

    We were the ones who invaded Afghanistan this time around so therefore it is OUR responsibility to control new issues that effect the whole world (especially when we have some fault). Russia isn't saying anything new... there have been many experts in the U.S. and Eurupe who have also felt the effects of increased heroin use. The increases in opium farms in Afghanistan directly correspondes to our lack of enforcement and now many other countries are suffering.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  75. Matt

    Why is everyone getting on Russia and saying welcome to the New World? Has no one paid any attention to their issue in Chechnya? or the past with Afghanistan? One of the main reaosns they are for the eradication of the poppy fields is b/c it will help stop the flow of money to Chechen rebels which routinely set off bombs in public places, kill leaders and kdnap citizens for ransom. The cold war is over and it makes sense to kill the fields if possible. This would hamper the Taliban/Al Queada efforts to fund their jihad.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  76. Dwight Huth

    The drug war could be won in the Middle East by having troops burn ever poppy field that they come across regardless of how big or small. The money that is taken in by the cultivation and sale of the illegal drugs made from the poppy are going directly back into the pockets of not only the Taliban but other groups such as MS-13 and MS-14 the Somali Pirates and any other group that operates outside of the law and conducts terrorist acts upon law abiding citizens.
    You are probably sitting there thinking that you will never be affected by these groups because of your social climate or your wealth status, but if you know someone that is currently using drugs derived from the poppy then the shadow of the enemy is being carried with the person every step of the way, always watching and looking for their next victim to coerce into buying their drugs to fuel their war against those who live their life under a Constituition of legal rights instead of living under the harsh rule of a self serving dictator type style rule.
    So the next time that you are on your cruise ship vacation and see a couple of junker's off in the distance heading your way, wouldn't it have been better to have knocked out that poppy field that is supporting the pirate attack heading your way or would you rather be carted off to some remote island and held hostage for ransom that when not paid you then become a statistic in the media just because someone in your home town wanted to capitilize off of the easy money made from selling drugs derived from the poppy plant?

    December 4, 2009 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  77. Ed Torrance

    Russian troops would not be welcome in Afganistan and would be counterproductive to gaining trust from the locals. Russia is correct! The only option is to pay the farmers hard cash for their cooperation and destroy the opium fields. This has to be continuous for years to have success. A small army (tens of thousands) should be assigned this responsibility. At least the money spent to do this would deprive the terrorists of the huge amounts of money they are receiving by making drugs which appear to kill more people worldwide than the war itself.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  78. Brownie

    Russia expects a lot! Our government has not been able to win the drug war in our own country. Why could we be successful anywhere else?

    For all of you blasting Russia on losing in Afghanistan. We haven't won yet. Nor do I expect us to with politic getting in the way.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  79. Dvoider

    Russia, we need you to solve a conundrum before .

    If the poppies get eradicated, farmers 1) grow new poppies, 2) become sympathetic to the Taliban and terrorists, and/or 3) become threatened by the drug pushers, who may or may not be associated with the Taliban and terrorists. By destroying poppies, you are destroying income for the farmers, threatening their livelihood and ability to put food on the table for families. At least some should be out there to make a living. At the same time, you are putting pressure on drug pushers who also need income.

    While there may be more ways to solve this conundrum, there are a few predictable measures that can be committed. To solve the conundrum, you have to
    1) suppress the drug pushers so that they do not threaten the farmers;
    2) avoid threatening the farmers' livelihoods, which means allowing them to make alternative revenue with a success of at least equal or greater than that of growing poppies;
    3) form an entity that can provide education and financial support for the farmers during the time of transition, so that the farmers could (i) be self-sustaining and (ii) replace the Taliban and terrorists, as a clutch for support; and
    4) suppress the Taliban and terrorists, so that there is no alternative source that the farmers can turn to.

    Of course, personally, I've never been to Afghanistan, so the conditions and circumstances may vary, but from what has been provided by this article, I believe these basic tenets are required to effectively eradicate poppies in Afghanistan.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  80. Kat

    To all of you suggesting Russia to send troops to Afgan, where was the US when there Soviets were fighting there 20 years ago? Oh, the US was helping Afgan then, because considered Russia an enemy. Russia is already helping the US allowing the troops and the loads go to Afgan through its territory.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  81. Daniel

    While I agree that it seems that Russia should contribute troops to Afghanistan, this is utterly impossible give Russia's previous experience there. This would just a "easy" a political sell there as a suggestion that US to go back to Vietnam or Korea. It just won't fly with public or politicians.

    Another point is that Taliban, Mujaheddin and Bin Laden with Al-Qaeda are by a large part an American invention, being previously nurtured and supported by CIA to fight Soviet Union. So this fact makes Russian involvement even more unsellable in Russia and make sense that US should clean up its own mess.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  82. Jonathan Decker

    Maybe the U.S. should've pulled out of Afghanistan so they'd all be addicited

    December 4, 2009 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
  83. Matt

    Some of you guys didn't read the article apparently. We do have a responsibility to limit the drugs coming out of Afghanistan and we are trying. The article clearly states that the US Military thinks its method is more effective than Russia's method.

    It would be nice if they would help us out a little instead of whining.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
  84. paul

    for those who complain that russia is not helping in afghanistan by sending troops:

    are you nutz? russian troops on afghan soil again? that was their vietnam and it will only make every afghan support the taliban/al queda.

    this is america's war now....

    December 4, 2009 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  85. Heiner

    I still see an american phobia when Russia is concerned. Guys the cold war is over.
    Putin and Medvedew want to work with the US and advise coming from sides should be taken in the spirit of mutual understanding that we have to work together against China, N.Korea, Iran and in general against Muslim extremist. We have more in common than what separates us. Get realistic and drop the adversary image of Russia. Pretty soon they are the folks to bring astronauts to the space station, the US has no means to transport anything.
    Heiner

    December 4, 2009 at 10:03 am | Report abuse |
  86. Jerome

    We should not listen to the Russians till their are ready to get involved in both the financing of and support of the efforts. There are a lot of things that they could do to help out without sending troops, like putting together the funds to pay the farmers to grow something else, anything else even if there is no monetary value to the crop. They could also give the US funding for our troops so that we don't need to barrow as much from China. As long as they are doing nothing and obstructing our efforts in other problem areas like Iran and North Korea our government should ignore them.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  87. Dmitriy

    I am glad that at least some folks here are cognizant enough to understand the ineffectiveness of Russia sending troops into Afghanistan (again) instead of just ignorantly vociferating "pony up." As a Russian, I understand my country has a history of substance abuse, especially with alcohol. But you know what? The US has some sizable drug problems too – and we all know where most of them come from. So, is Russia's request to NATO and the United States in Afghanistan really all that different from the U.S. asking the Mexican government to clean up its drug pipeline? Should the U.S. "pony up" some troops into Mexico to aid their narcotics war? Of, course not. Our government's diplomatic solution of providing financial aid to Mexico is the right decision and I only wish that my home country would follow suit by committing sizable economic resources to the U.S. and its allies in the current Middle East conflict – as unpopular as it may be in a country still trying to forget its own political and military Afghan er, mishap, to put it lightly.

    December 4, 2009 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  88. Jorge

    The way I see it, Russia is supporting the dictatorial government in Venezuela, which is know to have ties to drug dealers in Colombia and the rest of South America. Drug that is mainly send to the US. I do not see Russia stopping or doing something to stop Hugo Chavez from doing business with the drug cartels and guerrilla from Colombia. The US should negotiate with Russia about this. Us this opportunity to reduce the power of Hugo Chavez and make Russians collaborate with NATO in the Afghan war. The US is doing its part everywhere and now they are complaining....

    December 4, 2009 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
  89. James

    I see some people getting mad just because it is Russia suggesting or complaining about an issue.

    I do not know if they heard our President the other day or know what is the state of our economy. We cannot afford this war or any war for too long any more period.
    The speech also said that there are regional issues while dealing with Afghanistan and that includes all neighboring countries and that includes Russia.

    Having said that sending Russian troops someone suggested, it is not as simple as it sounds. Russia is not a NATO ally and it cannot do that. Other way to put it is NOT ALLOWED.

    So do not be surprised when NATO does allow it, it would be an irony that we created this mess there just to remove Russians before !

    Secondly please know the world situation and regional politics before making an opinion.
    When Obama said forging partnerships with countries that is what he is trying to hint but may be not Russia at this point.

    Pakistan (how can you forget this country), India, China, Russia and Iran (cannot talk to them right now).

    See the Mess ! However all these countries are affected. India and China with over 2 million army sitting on their ass but not allowed to do anything. They are affected with what is going on there including the drugs.
    India for example has already pumped in over 1.2 Billion dollars without lot of people knowing into the Afghan war but that money is used for construction.
    Now Pakistan does not like it. That is dumbest situation our administration has created but that is being currently being addressed.

    So if construction of that country can be shared with funding and assistance of bordering countries may be that can help not to make the Mullahs mad in Pakistan.

    I see this siutation being handled by more than one country in the region. Pakistan is required but it does not have necessary will nor money but it is necessary evil.

    China and India and may be Russia should be involved but this would be a great feat for the NATO to achieve.

    I can see this happening now more than ever because all the above countries are in a terror threat zone.

    China may be less affected by terrrorism (less muslims other than its western borders) due to ability to curb it affectively domestically.

    However due to current global economic crises here is what US must have said to China and / or India.

    We do not have much funding to go on indefinitely, if we do the economy will suffer globally not to mention you guys buys or debt anyways. Why not you spent directly.
    I do not think US has much choice either.
    Things are happening as we blog ! Equations have changed and I think it is for the better.

    This is how it should have been done for the first time but times have changed and there is a President who is not as stubborn. Not to mention we have seen what a mindless war can bring to our (western) shores. If not that much terrorism it did bring poverty. The terrorists have won that much after 9/11. This needs to be stopped because it is a zero sum game. Extremists are extremists they want chaos at any cost but the rest of world cannot afford and should not tolerate.

    It is high time the Islamic Fundamentalist elements see a world response before it is too late. I hope our President succeeds in bringing new partners to this INDEED a global war against extremism.
    This also means the rest of world instead of enjoying our pain (economically) act with us because their fate will be the same or worse if global economy suffers or worse extremists get hold of nukes.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
  90. ronjon

    We pay American farmers to not grow crops. I bet paying the Afghan farmer what he now makes selling to the drug runners would be cheap. Don't grow poppies and the Russians will pay you – perfect. It is high time we start building golf courses in Afghanistan anyhow.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  91. AshevilleJeff

    Don't any of you knuckleheads understand why Russia cannot send troops? Think about it....The Afghans hate them for their invasion. Russian troops would be sitting ducks attacked on sight.
    Dummies.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  92. Susan

    The Afghani's need to establish, nurture and support legitimate industries which have already worked in their economy. This should be their responsiblity, not the U.S..For instance textiles, specialty crops other than poppy and light industry.

    It's clear that the rest of the world is getting increasingly impatient with the whole situation. There are other more important problems that need to be solved other than illegal drug trafficking.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  93. Scott

    What a bunch of deuche banks. Does anyone seriously care what Russia thinks anymore? They're a third world country that terrorizes their own countrymen and oppresses freedom. We'll start dying for the dope fields when they stop flooding the world with their sex slaves. What a bunch of deuche banks.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:54 am | Report abuse |
  94. Rigo

    It is intresting how America reacts to drug trade, if these were cocaine fields they would have already erradicted it, but since they are heroin fields and do not affect the mayority of americans then lets leave then be. Drug trade, be it cocaine, heroin, mariguana, should all have te same treatment, independent of were they are, should be erradicated compleatly. It is sad to see America take this position on drugs since it affects all people not just Americans.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |
  95. Irina

    I am not sure if Mr. President will listen our voices, he needs to ask a nation opinion before sent another 1000.000 of our boys to solve someone problems. They are our kids for god sake. Russia wants to use SOMEONE ELSE MONEY and lives and have clean hands. It is ashamed.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  96. John

    If Russia is so upset about it, let them send 5000 troops, this time to help Afghanistan, not destroy it. Let Russia patrol, irradicate and pay the poppy farmers for their crops. Afterall, they are just farmers. They would grow corn if it would make them the same amount of money.

    Until the Tliban and Al Q. are defeated, paying a poppy farmer $500 USD a year not to grow poppy would be peanuts compared to what the drug does to the lives of Russians and citizens around the world and their health systems. If a farmer breaks the agreement, then the farmer gets jailed and prosecuted. This would help us literally buy time to crush our enemies, while helping thousands of Afghans stay out of complete poverty.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:51 am | Report abuse |
  97. JRock

    Russia should do something. Maybe sending troops, but that would probably be a bad isea as I'm sure the Afgans are still quite ticked at them. But, they could provide financial assistance and humanitarian assistance as well as some advisors who could help the farmers farm a different crop. If they can't or won't do any of that, then they should just shut up. Just my $.02.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
  98. Matthew Duncan

    IF most of these posts represent the majority...this world is diffidently in trouble.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:45 am | Report abuse |
  99. Jerry

    Why doesn't anything about the drug trade get sone? Simple! As Deep Throat said, "Follow the money!"

    December 4, 2009 at 9:44 am | Report abuse |
  100. Eric

    Too funny. Russia demolished Afghanistan, creating the weak state and thus allowed 9/11 to occur...and they have the balls to ask us to clean up Afghanistan! Obviously they sense what a weak-kneed gov't we currently have.

    December 4, 2009 at 9:43 am | Report abuse |
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